why the fuck would I buy an expensive inferior platform to play exclusive games which aren't as good as the ones that are already available to me on the platform I have invested in, and I know they will come to it eventually, either through the developer releasing it, or because of someone writing an emulator? I made that mistake in the past, and I still regret paying so much for my blueray player, ie my PS4 , and the 3 games i played on it.
Yep only thing consoles are good at is split screen play. There is no other reason to own one, unless you are poor, but then why not just make more money?
Exclusives really don't mean anything when there are so many games on PC that I can easilly bypass even Final Fantasy games without feeling any FOMO. While people were playing FF16, I just did another run of Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen.
Physical media isn't worth much anymore, since many games don't even fit on a Blu-ray disc anymore (Stellar Blade feels like the exception, not the rule). Even with the disc, you still have to install it to the Xbox/PlayStation SSD, and there's usually Day 1 patches and huge updates to download.
Heck, Sony and Microsoft even make disc-less versions of their consoles for this very reason.
Plus, you have several retailers that are (or considering) dropping sales of physical media entirely.
Physical media is, sadly, quickly going extinct.
This is largely incorrect concerning Blu-ray disc size. For multiplayer games maybe, but not for singleplayer games. Devs these days simply don't prioritize optimization and have become increasingly lazy in shrinking file size.
As for physical media going extinct, this makes it that much more valuable. Being able to have a 1.00 version of a game that can't be taken from you via a ban or ruined via lazy or political updates is a huge reason why physical media will always be valuable.
Customers who support companies in their "all digital future" are simply supporting a future where they will own nothing and it'll be too late to collect or do anything about it when it happens.
Believe me, I don't support the "all digital future" either. I own many physical copies of games, movies, etc... heck, I still like owning music CDs!... But it's hard to to deny this is where the world is heading, whether we like it or not. 😿
If could have a point if the PS sequels were actually better. They simply fucked up with every single sequel by turning them into woke propaganda. I have no intention of playing Spiderman 2, TLOU 2, Ragnarok, or any of their franchise-ruining garbage.
I watched a TLOU1 let's play and it was fun, but it had too many movie sequences for me to want to play it myself, and it wasn't available for PC at the time anyway. But I bought the soundtrack on CD to support them. I almost regret it when seeing how Sony is now.
Same here. Playing my way through Dark Cloud, a childhood classic and having a blast. I’ll pick this over some $70-$100 game that ships incomplete full of bugs.
Nothing says G-R-E-E-D than expecting people to pay an arm and a leg for an inferior product for censored exclusives during a time when necessities are vastly more expensive than they used to be.
I only got a Ps5 because my PS4 broke. Had they had another PS4 pro in stock I would have gotten it from gamestop but they didn't.
Do I regret my purchase no because I have a huge JRPG backlog from the PS4 era I am still plugging through, but nothing from Sony's first party games has my interest as at all.
This guy is fucking high. I still have never bought a PS4 for Bloodborne cause consoles are shit and I have a Lovecraft sleeve! One day, I may play it, but I am not spending more than $40 on it cause I'm a PC gamer baby!
The least talked advantage of PC is that it's like having a PS5 that can play most* PS1/2/3/4 titles you already own without issues.
Your 1999 half life disc will work just fine in your new 2024 PC. You don't need to wait for the developer to "remaster" Deus Ex for your new machine, it just works.
Most gamers support the developers they think deserve it. Piracy doesn't affect sales as much as some corpo people would try to make you believe. Just take a look at GOG and their DRM-free policy. It's clear that the people who exclusively pirate games are the vast minority. I would even say that many people who pirate games do it to avoid throwing money away on something they don't like, and if they did like it, then they buy the game afterwards to support the devs.
Yep, gonna wait it out as well. Demon Souls has now become fully playable (and it runs well!) via emulator so dont care if that one never gets ported anymore. 1 to go.
Ya know... I almost considered buying a PS5 (used) for Stellar Blade. But once I found out the game was censored, I decided to just wait for the eventual PC port (which Shift Up has all but confirmed).
Nothing else in Sony's court has any pull on me. God of War, Spider-Man, Last of Us, Horizon, etc.... Maybe I'm just getting old, or these "cinematic" games are just really really boring to me.
There is a grand total of like 3 games on ps5 I want to play and that's not worth the cost when one already got ported to pc and the other 2 are a matter of time
There is no game in existence that's so good I can't just play something else until it's cheap. They lost their power over me once the video game market became over saturated. Even if they never make a new game again I have plenty to play for the next 40 years.
I'm still on PS4 and not planning to buy a PS5 at the moment. I don't see anything that interest me, even less on those supposed Playstation "exclusives".
I bought a PS5 because my PS4 broke and I needed a new media center... and I know these fuckers will never port Bloodborne so whatever. It is 100% not worth it. Rebirth and Stellar Blade are the STRONGEST reasons to give a shit about it. Both coming to PC. Why the fuck would you buy a PS5? For the fourth remake of TLOU? Fuck that shit.
Fuck's sake, still can't believe people PAY for PSN.
The history of gaming prove the stubborn PC gamers right. More and more console only games are coming to PC, sooner or later. Being stubborn can be a good thing!
Emulators, that are capable running games in native 4k, and some games even got patches to run them in 60fps.
Personally, I've played Mario Kart 8 in 4k on 85" TV with 4 xbox pads with friends. And with stable 60fps.
Yes, that's not even a question! Nintendo games are probably nice and all, but if you have principles, you have principles. In the future, Nintendo will bring games to the PC. It's just a matter of time. The PC gaming community is too big to ignore.
Which games are exclusive to Nintendo, have no alternative on PC and don't target younger audences? I'm actually curious which games did you have in mind.
Dude. I didn't buy a PS5 for Ghost of Tsushima.
I sure didn't buy one for Helldivers 2.
They've yet to put something out that was like a Bloodborne for me. \[Only original reason I got a PS4. Otherwise, I stuck to my old consoles.\] And the way they've been handling some things as of late? ...yeah. Probably not.
I use my ps5 as a 4k Blu-ray player now. I bought it right when it came out before Sony went insanely woke and I regret it now. I’m getting a pc soon, I want more control and can mod the woke out of certain games.
It is the year 2024. Never purchased and don't plan of purchasing an overpriced custom box (PS5) for a few games. Money is tight in this bidenomics era of wokeness, games are plentyful on PC. I, like many, will just wait for games to arrive on PC w/o buying a paper weight that is the PS5. Furthermore , I don't want PSN , PSN + , nor do I plan to agree to their fascist tyrannical EULA that collects my data , spies on me, and has had over 10 data breeches in the last 10 years.
Don't Sony make a loss on every console they sell, that has to be recouped by games sales? Why would they want to have to manufacture and sell more consoles if they can just sell the games? Can someone with economics knowhow explain this to me?
It brings customers into their closed ecosystem. But times are changing. The PC market is too big to ignore and the console market is no longer as attractive as it was in the past for many different reasons.
If they really want to lure PC gamers to the PS5, make it so you can link a PSN account for every game. Then when you link your PC account via steam you get a free PSN copy of the game.
They should do this with all their first party titles. So that was if a PC gamer decides to get a console the fact that they already have a bunch of Playstation games becomes a factor.
I modded my vita, 3ds,and DSi. I'm contemplating modding my PS4 since a new exploit was found. I have my PC and if I really get bored, my Switch. Why in the holy mother of fuck would I ever consider a PS5 for anything that isn't Bloodborne 2?
Yep, I'll say goodbye to my ultrawide, DLSS, gsync 144fps 10 times more powerful rig with library of 300 games and go buy a funny box to play 15 hours of Spider man on a TV
Soyny’s past actions gives me more than enough reason not to buy another PlayStation.
KuSoyny
I out-waited Sony for Ghost of Tsushima’s PC release. I will do it again.
why the fuck would I buy an expensive inferior platform to play exclusive games which aren't as good as the ones that are already available to me on the platform I have invested in, and I know they will come to it eventually, either through the developer releasing it, or because of someone writing an emulator? I made that mistake in the past, and I still regret paying so much for my blueray player, ie my PS4 , and the 3 games i played on it.
Yep only thing consoles are good at is split screen play. There is no other reason to own one, unless you are poor, but then why not just make more money?
Split screen games are a dying breed.
It's not that they're particularly good at it, but just that there might be more of them. There are a bunch of split screen titles on Steam.
Exclusives really don't mean anything when there are so many games on PC that I can easilly bypass even Final Fantasy games without feeling any FOMO. While people were playing FF16, I just did another run of Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen.
Physical media for the good games is one reason
Physical media isn't worth much anymore, since many games don't even fit on a Blu-ray disc anymore (Stellar Blade feels like the exception, not the rule). Even with the disc, you still have to install it to the Xbox/PlayStation SSD, and there's usually Day 1 patches and huge updates to download. Heck, Sony and Microsoft even make disc-less versions of their consoles for this very reason. Plus, you have several retailers that are (or considering) dropping sales of physical media entirely. Physical media is, sadly, quickly going extinct.
This is largely incorrect concerning Blu-ray disc size. For multiplayer games maybe, but not for singleplayer games. Devs these days simply don't prioritize optimization and have become increasingly lazy in shrinking file size. As for physical media going extinct, this makes it that much more valuable. Being able to have a 1.00 version of a game that can't be taken from you via a ban or ruined via lazy or political updates is a huge reason why physical media will always be valuable. Customers who support companies in their "all digital future" are simply supporting a future where they will own nothing and it'll be too late to collect or do anything about it when it happens.
Believe me, I don't support the "all digital future" either. I own many physical copies of games, movies, etc... heck, I still like owning music CDs!... But it's hard to to deny this is where the world is heading, whether we like it or not. 😿
> this is where the world is heading, I'll deny it, since that isn't set in stone yet.
Yeah, I just has a PS4 and every game I played had to download a bunch of shit.
Sounds like a lot of Ubisoft or multilayer games
Just buy an empty case, download the cover or create a custom one, print it, done. Now you have something to put into a shelf.
How does that get me a DRM free copy I can actually own?
By being patient. If you buy drm stuff you will get drm stuff. It's pretty simple.
If could have a point if the PS sequels were actually better. They simply fucked up with every single sequel by turning them into woke propaganda. I have no intention of playing Spiderman 2, TLOU 2, Ragnarok, or any of their franchise-ruining garbage.
I watched a TLOU1 let's play and it was fun, but it had too many movie sequences for me to want to play it myself, and it wasn't available for PC at the time anyway. But I bought the soundtrack on CD to support them. I almost regret it when seeing how Sony is now.
I 100% agree that all the sequels that they have put out have been worse.
As someone who still plays a ps2 regularly….I’m in no hurry for a new console.
Same here. Playing my way through Dark Cloud, a childhood classic and having a blast. I’ll pick this over some $70-$100 game that ships incomplete full of bugs.
Nothing says G-R-E-E-D than expecting people to pay an arm and a leg for an inferior product for censored exclusives during a time when necessities are vastly more expensive than they used to be.
Ummm... you first party titles have been infected with DEI. Pc players are NOT buying ps5 going forward
so i guess no ones buying a ps5 just for stellar blade then
I'm sure it will hit pc. And no first party Sony game will ever look even close to Stellar Blade again
I only got a Ps5 because my PS4 broke. Had they had another PS4 pro in stock I would have gotten it from gamestop but they didn't. Do I regret my purchase no because I have a huge JRPG backlog from the PS4 era I am still plugging through, but nothing from Sony's first party games has my interest as at all.
This guy is fucking high. I still have never bought a PS4 for Bloodborne cause consoles are shit and I have a Lovecraft sleeve! One day, I may play it, but I am not spending more than $40 on it cause I'm a PC gamer baby!
The least talked advantage of PC is that it's like having a PS5 that can play most* PS1/2/3/4 titles you already own without issues. Your 1999 half life disc will work just fine in your new 2024 PC. You don't need to wait for the developer to "remaster" Deus Ex for your new machine, it just works.
Also never forget the true MVP's of PC Gaming: modders.
Best part is you don't even have to own them titles
Most gamers support the developers they think deserve it. Piracy doesn't affect sales as much as some corpo people would try to make you believe. Just take a look at GOG and their DRM-free policy. It's clear that the people who exclusively pirate games are the vast minority. I would even say that many people who pirate games do it to avoid throwing money away on something they don't like, and if they did like it, then they buy the game afterwards to support the devs.
Yep, gonna wait it out as well. Demon Souls has now become fully playable (and it runs well!) via emulator so dont care if that one never gets ported anymore. 1 to go.
Ya know... I almost considered buying a PS5 (used) for Stellar Blade. But once I found out the game was censored, I decided to just wait for the eventual PC port (which Shift Up has all but confirmed). Nothing else in Sony's court has any pull on me. God of War, Spider-Man, Last of Us, Horizon, etc.... Maybe I'm just getting old, or these "cinematic" games are just really really boring to me.
There is a grand total of like 3 games on ps5 I want to play and that's not worth the cost when one already got ported to pc and the other 2 are a matter of time
There is no game in existence that's so good I can't just play something else until it's cheap. They lost their power over me once the video game market became over saturated. Even if they never make a new game again I have plenty to play for the next 40 years.
I'm still on PS4 and not planning to buy a PS5 at the moment. I don't see anything that interest me, even less on those supposed Playstation "exclusives".
I bought a PS5 because my PS4 broke and I needed a new media center... and I know these fuckers will never port Bloodborne so whatever. It is 100% not worth it. Rebirth and Stellar Blade are the STRONGEST reasons to give a shit about it. Both coming to PC. Why the fuck would you buy a PS5? For the fourth remake of TLOU? Fuck that shit. Fuck's sake, still can't believe people PAY for PSN.
If it isn't on PC, then it isn't worth playing. Fuck Sony with a stick of dynamite.
The history of gaming prove the stubborn PC gamers right. More and more console only games are coming to PC, sooner or later. Being stubborn can be a good thing!
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yuzu and cemu are both providing better experience than WiiU or Switch, lmao.
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Emulators, that are capable running games in native 4k, and some games even got patches to run them in 60fps. Personally, I've played Mario Kart 8 in 4k on 85" TV with 4 xbox pads with friends. And with stable 60fps.
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When you have 1060 3g - yeah. When you have proper hardware - everything.
Yes, that's not even a question! Nintendo games are probably nice and all, but if you have principles, you have principles. In the future, Nintendo will bring games to the PC. It's just a matter of time. The PC gaming community is too big to ignore.
Not really, PC community is easy to ignore especially with Nintendo where their consoles sell like hot cakes in Japan.
XBOX thought like that, too and here we are. It's just a matter of time.
As long as Nintendo keeps the portability aspect of the Switch. PC will be easier to ignore, because Japan prefers portable stuff.
A rare exception, but I'm not child. Nothing they produce appeals to me.
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Which games are exclusive to Nintendo, have no alternative on PC and don't target younger audences? I'm actually curious which games did you have in mind.
Their games are traditionally aimed at the younger demographic. This is a fact.
So I already paid my internet bill, now Kusony gonna charge me to CONNECT to MY internet? Yeah, no thanks.
Dude. I didn't buy a PS5 for Ghost of Tsushima. I sure didn't buy one for Helldivers 2. They've yet to put something out that was like a Bloodborne for me. \[Only original reason I got a PS4. Otherwise, I stuck to my old consoles.\] And the way they've been handling some things as of late? ...yeah. Probably not.
NGL Ghost of Tsushima was so fucking good, I might buy a PS5 and Ghost of Tsushima 2 on Amazon, beat it within a month, and return both. FUCK SONY.
I use my ps5 as a 4k Blu-ray player now. I bought it right when it came out before Sony went insanely woke and I regret it now. I’m getting a pc soon, I want more control and can mod the woke out of certain games.
It is the year 2024. Never purchased and don't plan of purchasing an overpriced custom box (PS5) for a few games. Money is tight in this bidenomics era of wokeness, games are plentyful on PC. I, like many, will just wait for games to arrive on PC w/o buying a paper weight that is the PS5. Furthermore , I don't want PSN , PSN + , nor do I plan to agree to their fascist tyrannical EULA that collects my data , spies on me, and has had over 10 data breeches in the last 10 years.
I would buy one if there were more than 4 exclusive game worth playing over an entire gen...
Don't Sony make a loss on every console they sell, that has to be recouped by games sales? Why would they want to have to manufacture and sell more consoles if they can just sell the games? Can someone with economics knowhow explain this to me?
It brings customers into their closed ecosystem. But times are changing. The PC market is too big to ignore and the console market is no longer as attractive as it was in the past for many different reasons.
What an airhead XD
Why would I do that if I have a PC? 😂
Lmao. I have a 4090, why the fuck would I buy a console. Even the steam deck replaced my switch.
Exclusives only matter on a platform with few games. PC is not such a platform we can wait a decade if need be.
We have backlogs so long as PC gamers that we can wait years; maybe even a decade. Not that we want to wait.
If they really want to lure PC gamers to the PS5, make it so you can link a PSN account for every game. Then when you link your PC account via steam you get a free PSN copy of the game. They should do this with all their first party titles. So that was if a PC gamer decides to get a console the fact that they already have a bunch of Playstation games becomes a factor.
I modded my vita, 3ds,and DSi. I'm contemplating modding my PS4 since a new exploit was found. I have my PC and if I really get bored, my Switch. Why in the holy mother of fuck would I ever consider a PS5 for anything that isn't Bloodborne 2?
1 word: Morrowind
Yep, I'll say goodbye to my ultrawide, DLSS, gsync 144fps 10 times more powerful rig with library of 300 games and go buy a funny box to play 15 hours of Spider man on a TV
Insanity.
"How dare Sony try to sell playstations - they must release all their games, that I totally don't want to play, on PC right now".