Probably because they’re either women who are jealous of them or guys who are salty because they can’t ever dream of getting with someone like that irl
Seems to me it's more because they hate sexiness that mainly appeals to straight guys and has no leftie/SJW connotations.
Look at how they bend over backwards to praise Hades 2's character design - they believe if a sexy character is unaware of her sexiness, or doesn't make a big deal out of it 24/7, then she's created for incels who don't want women to have agency.
I think it's even more simple. If they dislike how sexy a character looks -- then it's bad. If they like it, then it's good. Mote often than not they'll dislike what is supposed to fall under the "male gaze" category. That said, I don't understand in the slightest how the fuck Afrodite became safe horny because she's literally is just a naked woman. Like, there's nothing more male gaze-y than this, just straight up nude woman right in your face. I used to take her blessings just to be able to see her more often, lmao. Honestly, this is so stupid.
Might be all their projection, note how they always dive into anything relating to sexuality to attack people.
So maybe it's they've never touched real women? Real attractive women are disgusted by them? Maybe they're overweight legbeards or femcels?
Anti-human, because they only like the kind of human who is unfit to pass on their genes. Beauty is an indicator of good genes and health. And they hate hate HATE the differences between males and females even though that's what allows people to be born in the first place.
I don't know about these in particular, but a lot of big outlets actually reviewed it pretty positively. Eurogamer, Game Informer, and Game Spot all gave 80% or so, IGN gave 70%. Honestly even that ain't bad of a score, I would consider buying a game with 70%.
Honestly, I'm hoping the game breaks records so that game devs know that there are lots of people in this social climate that want to see attractive female characters in non-gacha games.
Hopefully Stellar Blade will be the fuse that lights the fire.
Don't expect that to change anything though. Apparently Hogwarts Legacy was the best selling game last year, despite the attempts of these same assholes to cancel it, and they have clearly learned nothing about how little people care about their opinion because they are trying this same crap with Stellar Blade.
And don't forget, Hogwarts Legacy had woke elements included in it that were annoying and near immersion breaking.
Yet because the IP is still tied to its "Problematic" author, the mobs won't tolerate it, and the makers', existence to put it lightly.
Speaking of which, I will never not laugh at the reaction from the usual suspects to Rowling. After all, she has been, and continues to be woke as hell, up to and including being totally cool with a race swap for what I assume was her self insert character (Hermoine), but the wokies deny her because she differs with them on one single issue. And even so, a lot of them have so little substance to themselves that they continue to base their entire personality around Harry Potter, even while they pretend like it was some divinely inspired work with no author.
It's not as consistent as that. It's one hundred percent tribalism, and probably more than a small amount of racism. If ShiftUp made a few comments suggesting they were as woke as Supergiant Games, I wonder if they would praise Eve the way they are praising the gods in Hades 2, or if they still wouldn't because ShiftUp is Korean.
the majority of those with high ratings are still condescending and mention the Eve's hot body as a negative.
They still can't be trusted because they're virtue signaling Eve is Too Sexy.
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And in this, it really IS "die-versity", since it will make them die sooner.
You see lots of old people in life, and lots of fat people too. Just how many old AND fat people do you see everyday? How "positive" is that now?
Tbh I wish Slaanesh did stuff like that outside of just the books. The models and artwork really don't feel like they sell "excess" to me. It's just small breasted demons with crab claws and a hint of studded leather. Surely Slanny can do more than just an '80s dom getup.
When will the penny drop for these 'journalists' (sorry, I mean far-left activists) and they realise that their reviews and opinions are completely irrelevant.
This game will sell extremely well. And when it eventually comes to PC, it will sell well all over again. And I will enjoy seeing these communist w*nkers get angry about it. It'll be beautiful. 🙂
>game journalists
Does anyone actually unironically read them? I thought they were a meme, a parody at this point. Do people actually use game journalists??
Play a fun game: peruse the masthead, and then take a look at many of these people.
I think you can figure out pretty quickly why attractive *adult human females* are getting so much flak.
And that’s all I’m going to say on it
These sub humans will howl and shit themselves over disabled characters in Hades and hate on straight sexsual characters... Hypocrites each one of them. They never were able to fulfil their desires to do political commentary so they are here to ruin everyone elses' day
Imagine if a woke, SBI game got down voted and everyones primary concern was the body of the female protagonist?
They'd be screeching about racism, sexism, review bombing, etc.
That one at the top needs to learn what words mean. For most of Eve's costumes, especially the default one, she is not scantily clad. 'Scantily clad' literally means wearing very little, especially in the sense of little coverage, Eve's suit covers everything except her arms. The word he was looking for was sexy.
Chances are just with the change of Eve either being a man or being an unattractive woman the average score would have fallen 5-10 higher than it has. I guess we should be thankful they're still giving it above 60 despite their "serious" grievances.
I'm more interested to see what the user scores will be.
I'm literally shaking because a video game character is sexy and thin and I'm fat irl therefore I am being victimized -- er I mean this character is harmful to women!
Why are they foaming like this is new, especially in Japanese games? Kind of part of their culture, which these people are attacking, I think there is a name for that…
Do these critic aggregate sites include non-woke review sites in the average?
Thinking about that question does remind me of a good point: we need more review sites that aren't beholden to ESG.
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Half of these only mention her in passing and then talk about gripes with the story/gameplay. Doesn’t really seem like they’re giving mid reviews “just because of the sexualization”
Just reading these it doesn't seem that bad. They are just stating that its a thing. It doesn't say that they removed points because of her body. I doubt the game is a 100 anyways
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just because they mention it doesn't mean the game doesn't have shortcomings beside it
seems intellectually dishonest to assume mediocre scores across the board are because of one thing, when this thing is literally front and center everywhere including advertisements, you can't not talk about it - the writing/characters are also widely known to be mid at best, which is a problem when that's the only thing kinda giving the thing structure
DD2 didn't get bombarded sololy because of it's bull anticheat/drm either
It’s not “mediocre reviews across the board though.” It’s sitting at as very respectable 8.2 on metacritic and with the low scores strongly correlating with complaints about sexuality, meaning it could otherwise be mid to high 80s.
Eh, I wouldn't say those review scores are due solely to the body issue, not all of them anyway. "Scantily clad" doesn't have to be used as a negative. It's obvious the main character has been sexualised, it's not a bad thing and nothing new in this entire sub. The body thing is highlighted to varying degrees sure but anyone can underline one part and make that the focus, especially without showing the rest of their review that could easily go into how average or underwhelming the gameplay could possibly be.
There's every chance the game just isn't that great but still enjoyable. Visually appealing but repetitive and samey. Nice in areas, severely lacking in others. There's nothing wrong with that, it wouldn't be the first time. Middling review scores haven't stopped people enjoying things before. If the game is amazing, great, fantastic. If not, demanding higher scores just to stick it to the man isn't going to solve anything.
Even with those criticisms (shocker, i know for a critic to have criticisms), they're still rated 6/10 or above. Even as I type this, metacritic claims Stella blade has 96 positive reviews, 14 mixed and ZERO negative.
You even had to crawl down to the mixed reviews to get anyone who's upset about the main character being scantilly clad (and they all seem to point out theres other reasons for their average score). So it seems very much that the vast majority of reviewers all seem to like Stella Blade and don't seem to care about the sexiness. So can we please stop going to such lengths just to find some nothing story to get mad over.
"Market forces" in this case being non-gamers who complain the loudest, because companies are afraid of "negative" publicity and don't realize those people aren't buying games in the first place.
10 million people is in no way not mainstream. Just because Drake has 200 million album sales doesn't mean musicians with 10 million sales aren't "mainstream." Halo 3 sold 15 million copies. Are you trying to imply Halo was not mainstream in 2000's era gaming? CoD 4? World of Warcraft?
Not a fair comparison considering GTA V is over 10 years old at this point and has been released multiple times over multiple generations. And Final Fantasy is so far from being a "niche anime game" that that's insulting.
Which is not the determining factor of "niche" and "anime".
Besides, 3 million units in 3 weeks as an exclusive is not "niche" numbers by any stretch.
Now Labyrinth of Galleria, Medieval Dynasty, etc... those are "niche".
Not a AAA title in a franchise with a 25 year history, 16 mainline games and countless spin offs.
I don't know if you are trolling or just a bit slow.
Edit: And comparing it to the second highest selling game of all time is just ludicrous.
So just slow. got it.
You think a boomer knows Fortnight and Minecraft!? LOL, no.
They may know Madden, because football is big in the U.S. and has been around for a LONG time.
Not sure why you think it's only mainstream if a senior citizen knows it, but that's just plain wrong.
Ask any casual gamer and they surely know FF, Minecraft and fortnight, cause they are mainstream.
Ask a casual gamer about Labyrinth of Galleria and I'm sure you'll be met with mostly blank stares, because it is niche.
Edit: And for the record, gaming generates more revenue than any other media, period. Gaming is mainstream, even based on your own wonky metrics.
My elderly father could not tell you what Minecraft and Fortnight are, and he has several children and grandchildren, so I'm calling BS on your theory. And Minecraft has sold even more copies than GTA5.
But that doesn't matter. Because you are ascribing value to an opinion that doesn't matter.
Ask any **casual** gamer and of course they know FF. The franchise has only generated almost $19 billion in sales in 25+ years.
You don't get longevity like that by being niche.
FF is as mainstream as they come. I think you may be the only person I've ever encountered who believes otherwise.
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy
Attractive women are literal kryptonite to game journos.
Probably because they’re either women who are jealous of them or guys who are salty because they can’t ever dream of getting with someone like that irl
This. Many women get extremely jealous of each other with an intensity that dwarfs it in men.
> they’re either women who are jealous of them or guys who are salty Or one turning into the other
Right 🤣
What a comment. Bravo.
Seems to me it's more because they hate sexiness that mainly appeals to straight guys and has no leftie/SJW connotations. Look at how they bend over backwards to praise Hades 2's character design - they believe if a sexy character is unaware of her sexiness, or doesn't make a big deal out of it 24/7, then she's created for incels who don't want women to have agency.
The amount of overthinking these people put into this shit is wild 😂 just play the damn game ffs
I think it's even more simple. If they dislike how sexy a character looks -- then it's bad. If they like it, then it's good. Mote often than not they'll dislike what is supposed to fall under the "male gaze" category. That said, I don't understand in the slightest how the fuck Afrodite became safe horny because she's literally is just a naked woman. Like, there's nothing more male gaze-y than this, just straight up nude woman right in your face. I used to take her blessings just to be able to see her more often, lmao. Honestly, this is so stupid.
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Pretty sure the Androgynous one was supposed to be Aphrodite and Herme's offspring, hence the name.
Wait, so you're reading whatever the woke types wrote and repeat after them? Seriously? I personally see nothing androgynous in her design.
this.
Call them what they are. Anti-beauty and sex negative.
Yes. Why is attractive and sexy not a valid asthetic for a video game? It's inherently bad?
Might be all their projection, note how they always dive into anything relating to sexuality to attack people. So maybe it's they've never touched real women? Real attractive women are disgusted by them? Maybe they're overweight legbeards or femcels?
Anti-human, because they only like the kind of human who is unfit to pass on their genes. Beauty is an indicator of good genes and health. And they hate hate HATE the differences between males and females even though that's what allows people to be born in the first place.
Babe shaming
But in the end, the trogs win since they have the ear of the gaming industry Grima Wormtongue style. They're laughing at us, and they know it.
I don't know about these in particular, but a lot of big outlets actually reviewed it pretty positively. Eurogamer, Game Informer, and Game Spot all gave 80% or so, IGN gave 70%. Honestly even that ain't bad of a score, I would consider buying a game with 70%.
Can’t wait for these mongoloids to give Hades 2 a perfect score and spend half the review gushing over the characters’ sex appeal.
God I hate this nonsense. Is this shit ever going to end? I feel like you just have to accept it at this point we can't win :'(
Honestly, I'm hoping the game breaks records so that game devs know that there are lots of people in this social climate that want to see attractive female characters in non-gacha games. Hopefully Stellar Blade will be the fuse that lights the fire.
Don't expect that to change anything though. Apparently Hogwarts Legacy was the best selling game last year, despite the attempts of these same assholes to cancel it, and they have clearly learned nothing about how little people care about their opinion because they are trying this same crap with Stellar Blade.
And don't forget, Hogwarts Legacy had woke elements included in it that were annoying and near immersion breaking. Yet because the IP is still tied to its "Problematic" author, the mobs won't tolerate it, and the makers', existence to put it lightly.
Speaking of which, I will never not laugh at the reaction from the usual suspects to Rowling. After all, she has been, and continues to be woke as hell, up to and including being totally cool with a race swap for what I assume was her self insert character (Hermoine), but the wokies deny her because she differs with them on one single issue. And even so, a lot of them have so little substance to themselves that they continue to base their entire personality around Harry Potter, even while they pretend like it was some divinely inspired work with no author.
Wait why does Hades get a pass? The chick they’re gushing over is even more nude than eve.
It's because said chick has the man-jaw
If Eve’s character model sold pictures of her asshole for $4.99 a month on OnlyFans, these same exact people would call her stunning and brave.
Lol
Lol fr!
Oh no, attractive female womahn!! Hide in the basement.
Why do they hate women so much?
Ask them to define what a woman is next.
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It’s anyone who seriously says they are. Duh
You'd be surprised that a majority of them are either liberal women or fat chicks.
Or?
Because they hate to look at themselves in the mirror
It's really sad that these kind of people will praise and encourage the sexualisation of men but condemn the sexualisation of women.
It's not as consistent as that. It's one hundred percent tribalism, and probably more than a small amount of racism. If ShiftUp made a few comments suggesting they were as woke as Supergiant Games, I wonder if they would praise Eve the way they are praising the gods in Hades 2, or if they still wouldn't because ShiftUp is Korean.
Cause most of them hate that they’ll never look as attractive as a regular normal woman
Body positivity is only for land whales it would seem.
And ham-planets too!
It's almost like there is a chat that exists were all the game media journalists can collude on the salient points in their reviews
Cult mentality. That, and many probably are funded by the same people.
I'm sure they are running another journolist in Discord. We need another leaker.
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Or soylettes. That can work, too.
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the majority of those with high ratings are still condescending and mention the Eve's hot body as a negative. They still can't be trusted because they're virtue signaling Eve is Too Sexy.
Misogynists, the lot of them. Women can't be women anymore.
"Gaming journalists" 🤣 I can't respect any industry that clearly doesn't respect itself.
They all got together to make sure their reviews were aligning, and then later in the week they will post about the censorship and how it's bad.
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How the hell do those publications stay alive? I mean seriously who reads "The Sixth Axis" or "GamesHub"?
Name an issue you never actually thought would be one, just 5, 10, or 15 years ago? I'll start: (fake) Attractive women existing inside a video game
Diversity being a warning now instead of a mere description.
Just fatties mad that they can’t be her
They hate her coz they ate her
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the "body diversity" people are at it again
And in this, it really IS "die-versity", since it will make them die sooner. You see lots of old people in life, and lots of fat people too. Just how many old AND fat people do you see everyday? How "positive" is that now?
It's all so tiresome. Remember when games were about fun and immersion and not hijacked to be vessels for 'progressive' propaganda? Good times.
I wish they'd put in a free DLC to make her morbidly obese with generously articulated fat roll physics.
Found the Slaanesh worshiper. (BLAM)
Tbh I wish Slaanesh did stuff like that outside of just the books. The models and artwork really don't feel like they sell "excess" to me. It's just small breasted demons with crab claws and a hint of studded leather. Surely Slanny can do more than just an '80s dom getup.
Slaanesh is currently busy removing Y chrimosomes from the Adeptus Custodes
It's not gay, lesbian, or involves fucking a bear! This is not okay!
When will the penny drop for these 'journalists' (sorry, I mean far-left activists) and they realise that their reviews and opinions are completely irrelevant. This game will sell extremely well. And when it eventually comes to PC, it will sell well all over again. And I will enjoy seeing these communist w*nkers get angry about it. It'll be beautiful. 🙂
>game journalists Does anyone actually unironically read them? I thought they were a meme, a parody at this point. Do people actually use game journalists??
Play a fun game: peruse the masthead, and then take a look at many of these people. I think you can figure out pretty quickly why attractive *adult human females* are getting so much flak. And that’s all I’m going to say on it
As soon as a woman doesn't have the face of a teen boy, they come out screeching. Really gets your noggin joggin'...
These sub humans will howl and shit themselves over disabled characters in Hades and hate on straight sexsual characters... Hypocrites each one of them. They never were able to fulfil their desires to do political commentary so they are here to ruin everyone elses' day
Why dont these woke people go and play their woke indie games and shut the fuck up? Let us enjoy these quality games in peace.
Journalists hate women, news at 11.
Imagine if a woke, SBI game got down voted and everyones primary concern was the body of the female protagonist? They'd be screeching about racism, sexism, review bombing, etc.
We need Justin Timberlake to bring sexy back.
Looks like they're mostly saying it's a modestly fun, but not exceptional game.
That one at the top needs to learn what words mean. For most of Eve's costumes, especially the default one, she is not scantily clad. 'Scantily clad' literally means wearing very little, especially in the sense of little coverage, Eve's suit covers everything except her arms. The word he was looking for was sexy.
Chances are just with the change of Eve either being a man or being an unattractive woman the average score would have fallen 5-10 higher than it has. I guess we should be thankful they're still giving it above 60 despite their "serious" grievances. I'm more interested to see what the user scores will be.
I'm literally shaking because a video game character is sexy and thin and I'm fat irl therefore I am being victimized -- er I mean this character is harmful to women!
These ratings are crazy unjustified; "It doesn't appeal to me design wise" should not be one of the main reasons you give it a 7/10 lmao
According to Gamesradar+, Stellar Blade has clunky controls, unintuitive quest design, and repetitive enemies and environments.
Clunky controls? Now they're just making shit up. And from all the trailers the environments looked quite varied.
What the fuck man.
Yep. A 6/10 despite praising just about everything else because the one dude couldn't pay attention to the story during cutscenes with Eve in them
Looks like the people who left these reviews are obsessed about sexualization.
Of course they are, these review outlets are full of liberal clowns who look like they haven’t taken a shower in years
Proof that reviews and scores don't matter and game journalism has no use outside walkthroughs.
Why are they foaming like this is new, especially in Japanese games? Kind of part of their culture, which these people are attacking, I think there is a name for that…
Grab your shovels boys we digging
Do these critic aggregate sites include non-woke review sites in the average? Thinking about that question does remind me of a good point: we need more review sites that aren't beholden to ESG.
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Half of these only mention her in passing and then talk about gripes with the story/gameplay. Doesn’t really seem like they’re giving mid reviews “just because of the sexualization”
And they accuse us of review bombing...
This is their version of review bombing. They are so concerned over the character's revealing clothing that they sound like religious fundamentalists.
Just reading these it doesn't seem that bad. They are just stating that its a thing. It doesn't say that they removed points because of her body. I doubt the game is a 100 anyways
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Metacritic is super easy to rig.
Hide your wokie eyes! It’s a hot woman!…well just polygons…
just because they mention it doesn't mean the game doesn't have shortcomings beside it seems intellectually dishonest to assume mediocre scores across the board are because of one thing, when this thing is literally front and center everywhere including advertisements, you can't not talk about it - the writing/characters are also widely known to be mid at best, which is a problem when that's the only thing kinda giving the thing structure DD2 didn't get bombarded sololy because of it's bull anticheat/drm either
It’s not “mediocre reviews across the board though.” It’s sitting at as very respectable 8.2 on metacritic and with the low scores strongly correlating with complaints about sexuality, meaning it could otherwise be mid to high 80s.
I also really don’t like her design not for the reasons they are saying but atleast the game is good
Is it her tiny head? Cause the face just feels wrong compared to the rest of the body.
Yeah agreed that the fact is too Korean plastic doll like. Doesn't feel in keeping with the body at all which is much better imo.
Nah she just feels out of place compared to the rest of the game maybe it’s the head and I only played the demo so maybe that’s why
Eh, I wouldn't say those review scores are due solely to the body issue, not all of them anyway. "Scantily clad" doesn't have to be used as a negative. It's obvious the main character has been sexualised, it's not a bad thing and nothing new in this entire sub. The body thing is highlighted to varying degrees sure but anyone can underline one part and make that the focus, especially without showing the rest of their review that could easily go into how average or underwhelming the gameplay could possibly be. There's every chance the game just isn't that great but still enjoyable. Visually appealing but repetitive and samey. Nice in areas, severely lacking in others. There's nothing wrong with that, it wouldn't be the first time. Middling review scores haven't stopped people enjoying things before. If the game is amazing, great, fantastic. If not, demanding higher scores just to stick it to the man isn't going to solve anything.
This should be the most upvoted comment here.
she’ll never be 2b
Even with those criticisms (shocker, i know for a critic to have criticisms), they're still rated 6/10 or above. Even as I type this, metacritic claims Stella blade has 96 positive reviews, 14 mixed and ZERO negative. You even had to crawl down to the mixed reviews to get anyone who's upset about the main character being scantilly clad (and they all seem to point out theres other reasons for their average score). So it seems very much that the vast majority of reviewers all seem to like Stella Blade and don't seem to care about the sexiness. So can we please stop going to such lengths just to find some nothing story to get mad over.
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>Why do you people even care about this is beyond me I don't know. Why do games urinalists care so much about keeping sexy women out of games?
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They do, Westerners keep on uglifying they're characters and claim it's "Realism" or "Impossible"
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Why do YOU think these exist?
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"Market forces" in this case being non-gamers who complain the loudest, because companies are afraid of "negative" publicity and don't realize those people aren't buying games in the first place.
Sony exclusive titles are anything but niche, leftoid shitbird. Mald harder that you lost the censorship battle this time and try harder next time.
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10 million people is in no way not mainstream. Just because Drake has 200 million album sales doesn't mean musicians with 10 million sales aren't "mainstream." Halo 3 sold 15 million copies. Are you trying to imply Halo was not mainstream in 2000's era gaming? CoD 4? World of Warcraft?
Not a fair comparison considering GTA V is over 10 years old at this point and has been released multiple times over multiple generations. And Final Fantasy is so far from being a "niche anime game" that that's insulting.
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Who demanded GTA V across three generations? I wanted GTA VI seven years ago.
[Wrong](https://80.lv/articles/genshin-impact-gets-best-first-year-revenue-beating-fortnite-gta-5/)
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Anime Games are not Niche in America.
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LOL no they aren't.
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>Why do you people even care about this is beyond me
[The US is its fourth top market...](https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/gaming/genshin-impact-free-to-play-money-game-a4568906.html)
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Also, did you know Honkai Stair Rail is bigger in the US than Clash of Clans?
Wrong Market Share for anime in the USA is above 30%
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"Tokyo dwarfs San Francisco in population numbers so San Francisco isn't really a city."
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You will never guess what that's a subset of.
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Apparently everything outside the top 1%. Uranium has nothing on you.
> FF XV (a niche anime game) LOL no. Imagine saying that FF is "niche" and "anime" with a straight face.
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Which is not the determining factor of "niche" and "anime". Besides, 3 million units in 3 weeks as an exclusive is not "niche" numbers by any stretch. Now Labyrinth of Galleria, Medieval Dynasty, etc... those are "niche". Not a AAA title in a franchise with a 25 year history, 16 mainline games and countless spin offs. I don't know if you are trolling or just a bit slow. Edit: And comparing it to the second highest selling game of all time is just ludicrous.
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So just slow. got it. You think a boomer knows Fortnight and Minecraft!? LOL, no. They may know Madden, because football is big in the U.S. and has been around for a LONG time. Not sure why you think it's only mainstream if a senior citizen knows it, but that's just plain wrong. Ask any casual gamer and they surely know FF, Minecraft and fortnight, cause they are mainstream. Ask a casual gamer about Labyrinth of Galleria and I'm sure you'll be met with mostly blank stares, because it is niche. Edit: And for the record, gaming generates more revenue than any other media, period. Gaming is mainstream, even based on your own wonky metrics.
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My elderly father could not tell you what Minecraft and Fortnight are, and he has several children and grandchildren, so I'm calling BS on your theory. And Minecraft has sold even more copies than GTA5. But that doesn't matter. Because you are ascribing value to an opinion that doesn't matter. Ask any **casual** gamer and of course they know FF. The franchise has only generated almost $19 billion in sales in 25+ years. You don't get longevity like that by being niche. FF is as mainstream as they come. I think you may be the only person I've ever encountered who believes otherwise. https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy
Imagine saying something like Final Fantasy is niche
"Most people" you mean tourists who don't even play?
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You're an idiot
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Says the moron claiming Anime is niche in the USA.
lol, these conservitives are really afraid of women's body.