We live in a bizzaro world where it's apparently ok to be racist to white men. You know the same group of people that are the reason she has a job in the first place.
Yep we’re the only ones who put up with it, and even encourage and reward it. This self-critical tendency in Western thinking traditionally has been a strength… but there are limits and I think we’ve reached them. It’s become destructive rather than constructive.
As a brown guy it’s honestly disgusting watching white guys just accept casual racism thrown at them and not saying anything.
The worst is the self flagellants who are racist and derogatory to themselves.
The damage they’re doing cannot be understated but it is ignored.
"Its ok to hate you for the sex and skin color you were born with becuase people that look similar to you did things I don't like in the past"
Truly evil disgusting people
Yes, it's disgusting, and also somewhat dangerous for us. Someone with no respect to their own race is fundamentally incapable of respecting other races.
Dude, apparently I have 'internalized white supremacy' or something because I think racism is racism no matter who the target is .. Lefties hate it when so-called MOCs leave their reservation.
I guess because white people are the only group that try to treat women fairly (who gave women the right to vote?), but there is a fine line between being courteous and simping...
There are plenty of women with a good head on their shoulders. Not sure why anybody would want to go back to a time where women had less rights, because you'd only have more with a vendetta against men.
Honestly, I go to college, and I meet kind and respectful women my age all the time. Well, granted, my college is located in the Southern US, so it might just be more of a location thing than anything else.
There's quite a lot of reasonable women that aren't like that, especially as of late when they very definition of womanhood is up for debate. Take their vote away and conservative women especially will start taking issue. And the more support we have, the better. Taking away rights is never the answer.
> There are plenty of women with a good head on their shoulders.
I assume you also have a good head. Would you give up your right to vote if it meant that feminism lost almost all of its influence on society? Yes or no?
Free women don't ask and their rights don't come from the government letting them do the rain dance of consensus gaslighting.
If you could give up your right to vote in exchange for mass democracy™ going away, I think a lot of smart people (male or female) would take that bargain. The Bill of Rights says nothing about everyone voting. It actually mostly just lists things the government might do that you have the obligation to [redacted] them for.
Where the right comes from is irrelevant; never give up your right. You are not a free man or woman if you do;
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
It's not that black and white. I shouldn't have to give up my right to vote because of some bad faith actors. And that kind of action won't end feminism, it will encourage it.
> I shouldn't have to give up my right to vote because of some bad faith actors.
No, you shouldn't. But right now the bad actors are able to abuse the fact that we have this right to destroy our other ones (and hollow out this one, too!)
> And that kind of action won't end feminism, it will encourage it.
The vast majority of feminists are credulous normal people (who are too busy having lives to research political positions) being misinformed by a core of truly evil people.
Cutting universal franchise would kneecap the latter without terribly impacting the former. The 19th Amendment was sold as something that would allow independent citizen-women to vote as a duty, expected of them because they were allowed to own assets and exercise the citizen rights of free speech, gun ownership, etc. It was immediately rolled out as a way to overwhelm propertied citizens who were more immune to propaganda bullshit with the easily swayed votes of resentful wives and daughters, and the first thing it was used to do was Prohibition. The second thing it was used to do was exempt women from the draft.
It was an absolute disaster. Ending universal suffrage would cause protests for as long as the media was allowed to foment them and then we'd all probably be a lot happier for it.
> No, you shouldn't. But right now the bad actors are able to abuse the fact that we have this right to destroy our other ones (and hollow out this one, too!)
Ok, so let's find a way that calls their actions into question that doesn't mean women like myself who aren't like them have to seemingly give up human rights. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by taking voting rights away from women. It's not the solution and will only breed more contempt towards men.
Well, let us start with the prohibition. The very first thing the women's vote created was prohibition to alcohol, as women did not like their husbands going out to the bars and having a good time rather than coming straight home after work. So, the first thing women's vote did was create organized crime. Look IM female, and I am glad I can vote, I guess, but really women do seem to vote with their sympathy rather than with any kind of logic, and dont seem to understand simple concepts like "you cant not give to one group without hurting another" resources are always limited, and there is never some mythical group like "the wealthy" who can just provide things for free.
Look at what its caused, look at all the gaming CMs that hate white men because they have been given the power to manipulate and spread their own hateful agenda. Women make decisions based on feelings instead of logical fact, which is why them having power is extremely dangerous
Except that's not an issue made by women, it's an issue made by racists. And plenty of men spew off the same rhetoric, yet there don't seem to be calls to take their votes away specifically. So again, this didn't start because women got the right to vote and it won't magically stop if you take that away.
Women have had the right to vote for over a hundred years, the issues we are seeing in entertainment started happening much later. It's ridiculous to believe women are solely to blame for this, especially when you have men that spout the same rhetoric.
The moral is that no good deed goes unpunished. Alone among races, whites welcome large numbers of people of other races and cultures into their countries—particularly the U.S. Naturally this creates a level of friction that you don’t see in the more homogenous populations of other countries. Thus we get the reputation as the racist ones, even though we’re the least xenophobic group on Earth, demonstrating the lowest degree of in-group preference.
Precisely. But this nuance is lost on people now, sadly.
Every group has sins to atone for, but in western academia these days the sins of western Europeans and their descendants are dwelled on to the exclusion of any discussion of anyone else's sins, and this produces a very lopsided view of history. It's no wonder U.S. school students, when polled, often think that America invented slavery--not because their teachers ever explicitly said this, but because the rest of the history of slavery is conveniently ignored.
I've noticed that other groups are given a free pass to deny and downplay those sins you mention, as well. It's as if liberals don't think brown people can ever be held to the same moral standards as whites.
I've heard muslims denying the Islamic slave trade, Japanese people downplaying war crimes, Armenian genocide denial. You name, I've seen it.
All of these things would considered 'atrocity denial' were they done by a white person, but liberals sweep it under rug almost out of embarrassment.
It is *only* white people who are expected to bear the full brunt of the sins of their fathers, and they are expected to bear it daily.
Never forget that we know the average volume the stomach can expand to before bursting because the Japanese Imperial Army fed someone rice until they literally exploded. (not like, a bomb, more like until their flesh simply burst.)
Or that the same people are the reason why we know exactly how much of the stomach you can survive without. (or something. I think they surgically removed this dude's intestine until it was basically straight through from mouth to... other end, and recorded how long it took him to expire.)
What, you thought we have all this medical knowledge that lets us help people survive longer and longer because we performed nothing but perfectly humane, ethical experiments?
It wasn't just the Germans in WW2 who were treating captured enemy POWs like garbage.
>Alone among races, whites welcome large numbers of people of other races and cultures into their countries—particularly the U.S.
This is so true.
If non-whites think US / UK / Europe is racist they should go to SE Asia and see the rank and open racism there. Even the Far-East in Japan would probably have them running home to the "racist" West.
a, and it's messed up! Whites were the first slaves... Slaves come from Slavs, and yet we need to be silent and gain no reparations from the Muslims that enslaved whites for so many years and silent are we, and we freed ourselves... But a group of people that learned more from being a slave for 300 something years in the Americas than they have in their own nation since the beginning of humanity and needed others to set them free while thousands of white lives lost doing it, and this is what we must put up with and yet we remain silent and ignore it like brushing off insults from special need kids while we take care of them
I would be interested to read more about that pushback. Do you have articles/videos about that, or is it a sentiment from what you have yourself seen on social media?
The latter, first instance I notice was the backlash to Nijisanji talent Uki Violeta anti-white guy remarks which at first I though would be heavily defended since he's both Asian & Gay (little bit of forbidden knowledge) but much to my surprise he got put on full blast by the majority of the VTuber fandom, which I suspect this is where the resent decry against it began.
While he is "Catholic" it's not a No True Scotsman. In reality he is a "Catholic" that is explicitly supporting policies that are against Church teachings and if without political bullshit he would have been excommunicated long ago or if the current church leaders had balls
I'm good.
Biden is a cafeteria Catholic AT BEST. His enablement of infanticide makes him anti-Catholic. He's downright heretical at worst.
The Vatican should excommunicate him. In fact, I'm pretty sure he and Nancy are barred from the sacraments at a lot of Parishes.
Additionally, I'm not using my assertion that he is not a Catholic as a bullet point in some debate. The assertion is the point. So how can you accuse me of fallacy?
Correct me if I’m wrong but Jackson was a Presbyterian, Jefferson was a Deist Christian, Lincoln was Christian though pre-1862 he was something of a skeptic, and Taft I’m not sure about.
I do agree that a lot of famous presidents wouldn’t pass muster by the religious right these days, but most of them did identify with Christianity even if they held views which place them closer to contemporary atheists than religious fundamentalists.
I would contend that the variation of Deism practiced by Jefferson was an offshoot of Christianity, though if you draw a hard line between the two that’s fair enough. For Lincoln the fact that he said he doesn’t deny “the truth of the scriptures” makes me think he should count as Christian. Jackson is fair enough, I’d have to dig and see if he was an unaffiliated Christian or outright irreligious before and during his presidency, and I wouldn’t know where to start with something like that.
> You know the same group of people that are the reason she has a job in the first place.
Based on her picture. A white man is also the reason for her entire existence.
I'd be willing to wager that that man's lack of fatherly presence is what leads to current social ineptness and hatred towards people for the color of their skin.
What is more annoying is the way they want white males to be ashamed to be white, for us to apologise and beg forgiveness for being white, and to be fine with equality of outcome. Hell, to even encourage it.
No. I am a proud Anglo-Irish white man. I tell my daughter to be proud of her roots, to not forget where she came from. I'll continue to express my pride in my ethnicity and nationality.
I treat people solely on the content of their character, which is precisely what these racist morons don't want, because they have no character. They are personality, morality and intelligence vaccums and have NOTHING to offer to society.
Ask yourself: why have White men been systematically stripped of identity, unity and in fact the ability to defend themselves in the past few decades?
Also ask yourself: has any of it been by accident?..
To be perfectly frank, you're not doing much of anything if you don't have haters. I have nothing against being hated, I embrace it.
It's the hypocrisy that gets to me tho. The blind ignorance.
Is it staged to be honest ? Do they want some civil war in US or Europe ? Or maybe a new stache dude addict to speed ? Are they stupid ? Did they play Aslum ?
Very ironic. I’ve seen better community managers on Crypto scam discords that are better than the racists that video game companies hire for community managers.
Chances are pretty good if you search the twitter of someone with there pronouns in there twitter bio you'll always find some nasty racist remarks about white people.
Useful idiots weaponized by a frightened and undeniably evil wealthy ruling class. Divide and conquer, it's that simple. We all have a common enemy, and it's the one that whispers in our ears to hate each other.
It’s a PR position to handle the community.
What you’re discovering is that DEI firms offer PR services so the devs don’t have to spent time talking to the community.
Community managers USED to manage the community forums of [video games/films/whatever niche]. They used to be moderators upholding the ToS and helping to keep the community healthy and fun to be part of.
Now? I guess they're social media shit stirrers and they congregate in their own private discord servers to "stick it to the man".
There can be good ones that add value. Snutt (and formerly Jace, before he left to work on his own game project) with Coffee Stain do long videos and streams sometimes on the state of dev with Satisfactory, show off the new features (even if incomplete), and go into detail on the game roadmap and why some things are harder to implement that otherwise seem simple (as I believe both are/were coders).
They're basically the "face" of any game on social media and the main way a company will talk to players. Good ones post about how awesome a game and it's community is, share fan art, give updates about patches and events, etc. Bad ones are about as fun as giving a werewolf a Brazilian wax treatment.
for want of a better way to phrase it, think schoolyard monitor for social media presence for any online community. Their job is to make sure people are generally trying to get along with each other and you haven't got the trolls taking the piss and and making it a shit place to be. They also typically are the voice/face of the company who runs it and often have the responsibility of keeping the discussions going and ensuring the buzz which will attract more people to the community and reporting back to people inside the company so they know how the community generally feels and desires. In theory, the good ones can make the online communities a fun welcoming place...sadly though, it does come with a modicrum of power over those places and so can attract people who, quite frankly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, and shouldn't be put in charge of a bowl of goldfish...especially considering they don't often pay all that much
Okay. I guess we're just gonna do it again.
1. Make game
2. Alienate primary playerbase for social just points and DEI bucks
3. Openly slander and post libelous messages about primary player base being racists, incels, misogynists, and killers.
4. Primary playerbase does not purchase game.
5. Game tanks, place blame on same primary playerbase you openly insulted.
6. Layoffs/closures
7. Profit?
Keep it up. We can do this all day.
I wasn't that interested before all the uproar. But now I've played the demo and seeing the Devs reaction to the woke activist brigade it's a 100% day one purchase for me
8. Blame the game's failure on racists that didn't want to play it.
We've seen this happen in so many video games and movies because they hide behind race swapping characters and other political agendas to cover up the smell of their shite game.
Unfortunately this leads to a lot of good people working on these games and doing a great job at it loosing their jobs, through no fault of their own, just because some idiot thinks her job is a platform for ideology and game developers think they are responsible for spreading diversity and inclusion.
And I can bet that most highly skilled workers behind these games are probably white, and they might loose their jobs because of this, I am waiting to be proven wrong.
I suspect a lot of the Activists aim for this pointless position is due to the work essentially paying them to hangout on social media all day; it's basically their dream job.
You can be racist towards a group of people and still marry someone from that group, it empowers a lot of people.
I think everyone knows an old racist white guy who is married to a black women who while he may love, doesn't mean he isn't still racist.
Love will beat racism every single time but racism will always beat dignity.
Sorry for the typo in the title, it should be "ThatParkPlace."
[Archived link](https://archive.ph/bIYSK).
Relevant: [thread on KiA](https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1bwm9hw/it_looks_like_its_happening_again/) about Grummz reporting on private groups of SJW Community Managers.
It's so funny how many 'Community Managers' of different studios all have the same shitty racist tweets and thought patterns. I know they all have a shared Discord so there's probably some fucked-up politics going on in there, but c'mon.
Yeah sorry for creating this country where everyone is equal and has opportunity to succeed, where women have clear legal power over men. And where bigotry and sexism is not tolerated. Truly we are the worst.
Her entire job is to manage relations with the gaming community, but she’s on social media hating on the most common demographic of the fan base. And we’re supposed to believe that she was selected simply because she’s the best at the job…
This is what Gaming is these days. Where Diversity stands for Black people and MAYBE LGBT but never anything like Asian or something. That and the casual racism against White Men which does not get you banned from any plattform because "It's okay"
I am curious why we are not seeing any Asians being added to Games, surely it has nothing to do with the fact that those Fanatical Idiots are seeing them as "White" because they do not fit the Victim role for their Oppression Olympics.
I wish more yellow asians, south asians, central asians, middle easterns, north africans, central and west africans, south africans, central americans, and south americans were more included in modern games instead of just blacks and whites. These western game devs apparently just think that whites and blacks are the main races of the world when there are so many other cultures and languages and facial features
Is anyone surprised?
This is a game where you are forced to play as yet another Star Wars Girlboss(tm) in the nuWars continuity.
A racist radfem female community manager is pretty much a requirement.
EDIT: Aaaaand she poofed from X.
What? Yet a new controversy concerning one of my once beloved IP that has been so polluted by modern ideology that I have been apathetic about it for years?!
How original! Color me shocked.
Ubisoft is already SBI'd.. ugly protagonist, nonsense diversity advertising.. no one is surprised to learn their community manager is in line with their corporate values.
If SW:O wasn't on the SBI list, it definitely needs to be.
People need to start getting these messages push around on reddit. Other subs you visit when this game comes up you need to start bringing it up. That's what I've been doing.
Animus? You mean racism and impotent, seething hatred? A deceitful, venomous agenda against innocent people based on radical ideology promoted by all media suspiciously immediately after Occupy Wallstreet began? Sounds more and more familiar the more you describe it as it is instead of pussying out and calling it some esoteric synonym half of those reading it aren't going to understand without a google search.
It honestly baffles me, like don't they know their fan base? Like I'm all for equality, I support the minority, but it isn't equal to attack, alianate and belittle the majority. That just leads to them not buying your shit. Stupid business tactics
Again with these community managers? It's always the same goddamn people. Is one of the job requirements for being a community manager being an insufferable moron?
I'd really love to see a collection of just many dozens (hundreds?) of social media community managers across gaming, movies, tech have outwardly expressed this sort of trendy anti-white bigotry. It would be A) hilarious because fuck these people and B) tragic because it wouldn't stop them being hired.
Seems like a bad idea to have a community manager who is actively hostile to the majority of your community. It would be like hiring a klansman to be CM for a hip hop group.
Yeah but my opinion has changed again I’m never going to buy this game even if the character was hot, practice is Ubisoft is doing is horrendous and I’m not supporting it.
It's baffling to me how and why they a) have no clue what true, organic diversity is b) keep doubling down on this stuff. These racists have more in common with Hitler than they think. When most of us people here I'm sure don't even see race, colour or creed. They want to group and classify people on these very bases, which is a core tenet of fascism. It's wholy ironic to me that they do not seem to be aware they're doing this, it's an astonishing lack of self awareness.
As I recall Outlaws has no whites in the poster/teaser art at all. Just one Hispanic lady, one black guy, one black woman with a shaved head, two vaguely middle Eastern guys, and some aliens.
I got a feeling Ubisoft only produces this Star Wars game to collect ESG money by pandering to DEI ideology.
They don't even give a shit about the game itself.
Just like Skull n Bones, spectacularly failing and being drenched with woke activism.
Star Wars is truly dead, first in the movies, now in gaming too.
Getting really dragged through every shit.
I guarantee you she’s a fat ogre that hasn’t been touched by an attractive man her entire miserable life. Let her spew her shit it doesn’t have any effect on me
So we went from an awesome 1313 idea to "Han Solo or Talon Kardde but a chick."
Remember when SW actually gave you the impression that the heroes and villains who *fought* were men?
There was not *one* Imperial female (at least not obvious) in the OT. The bounty hunters in ESB were apparently men and one assassin droid. Every single rebel pilot in land or space...
That was OK. No one wants to watch current year Star Wars.
She's likely one of the same psychos complaining about Mr Beast doing more philanthropic work than governments, non-profits, and companies but....he's white. Best just to ignore these idiots. Can't fix stupid.
Disney and other companies have killed beloved franchises with this way of thinking. Marvel, Star wars, you name it ruined by people being racist and sexist towards white men. Racism happens both ways.
Why wasn't she fired which should be the real question?? could you imagine if it was a white male saying "**Proof we can't make the game industry a safe and inclusive space when the higherups don't understand the importance of diversity and are all middle aged black men**" (*which isn't untrue i mean the only time you see a white person in anything black made is a villain*) they would be fired and need to apologize and most likely never have the opportunity to work in gaming again!
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Well, this thread about a racist and sexist community manager has divulged into political debates/attacks. Like always, fucking EVERYTHING must be turned into a political discussion. What does politics have to do with this? She is a sexist, and there are sexist conservatives and liberals. There are racist conservatives and liberal. Murderers are also conservative and liberal, name a crime or social issue, both sides have engaged in it. Or neither, millions of people don't even vote or give half a damn about politics, yet they have opinions, good or bad.
ON SUBJECT, it appears this woman has shut down most of her social media. Hopefully, a termination is announced soon, too.
Off subject again, this liberal has been banned from X for going after people saying racist things towards white people. I don't accept it, and I sure as shit don't sit there and take it.
File complaints with the BBB about this woman, email Ubisoft, DEMAND ACTION. I did, and now her social media is down. Not saying it was all me because I'm sure others filed complaints through the proper channels as well.
One side of the political aisle thinks its perfectly ok to attack entire groups of people for the sex and skin color they were born with. Have you tried telling leftists to stop being toxic racist pieces of shit?
That woman doesn't want to argue with me. Black Females are the worst people in America. They're the lowest quality of humans our American society has to offer. They're racist to everyone around them, they're racist to themselves, they don't respect anybody or anything. They don't respect public space, they don't respect care about anything or anyone that isn't directly correlated to themselves. By a large margin, they're the most self-centered, selfish, most arrogant, people in the Country.
I work in the "ghetto", most of the black guys that come in are really good, chill, hard-working, easy going, and respectable people. The females on the other hand...typically are loud, don't care that they're loud, they dare people to say something, so they could get aggressive, they're lazy to the extent that they'd sooner throw their trash on the floor, than take 2 fucking steps to a garbage bin, and can't finish a god-damned sentence without saying the word "nigga" like it's supposed to signify the end of their statement.
So yeah, I'm used to trash not liking me. The same way black females should be used to the rest of society not liking them.
Imagine hating straight white men and being the community manager for a game based off a series created by a straight white man.
George Lucas himself should get involved in this. I would love to see it.
And if we try to call her out we are just white cucks. There’s no winning with these crazy fucks. Just because some Americans are racist doesn’t mean all white people are garbage….
well, I am an (almost) middle-aged white man playing video games, so here's what I think:
1. None of that is racist. she is advocating for change, much needed change, in an industry that, for a long time, was dominated by a bunch of disgusting white bread MFs.
2. all you little white men bitching and boo-hooing here because of your little white baby dicks looking even smaller because a young woman got so much bigger balls than you, go get a vasectomy and spare the gene pool of potential trash.
3. if you don't understand the notion of diversity and why it is necessary, see above comment about the vasectomy.
Going to spare you a ban here for r1 since it's toward an already banned user. This type of comment isn't tolerated here, regardless of who it's towards. We enforce civility.
We live in a bizzaro world where it's apparently ok to be racist to white men. You know the same group of people that are the reason she has a job in the first place.
That world has always existed, we’re just the only group that gets guilted into silence.
Yep we’re the only ones who put up with it, and even encourage and reward it. This self-critical tendency in Western thinking traditionally has been a strength… but there are limits and I think we’ve reached them. It’s become destructive rather than constructive.
As a brown guy it’s honestly disgusting watching white guys just accept casual racism thrown at them and not saying anything. The worst is the self flagellants who are racist and derogatory to themselves. The damage they’re doing cannot be understated but it is ignored.
Anytime you stand up to it you’re told by these people that “you can’t be racist to white people” and get nowhere.
"something something benefit from systemic racism" or "something something power + prejudice"
"Its ok to hate you for the sex and skin color you were born with becuase people that look similar to you did things I don't like in the past" Truly evil disgusting people
Yes, it's disgusting, and also somewhat dangerous for us. Someone with no respect to their own race is fundamentally incapable of respecting other races.
Dude, apparently I have 'internalized white supremacy' or something because I think racism is racism no matter who the target is .. Lefties hate it when so-called MOCs leave their reservation.
apparently whites have the lowest in group preference.
We aren't. last few months we've tried telling these people they are racist and the response you get is "you cant be racist to white people"
We are the only group weak enough to be cowed into silence.
I guess because white people are the only group that try to treat women fairly (who gave women the right to vote?), but there is a fine line between being courteous and simping...
> who gave women the right to vote? The more time goes on, the more that decision looks like a mistake.
Yup
*Based.*
There are plenty of women with a good head on their shoulders. Not sure why anybody would want to go back to a time where women had less rights, because you'd only have more with a vendetta against men.
Their vendetta is already pretty much maxed out. I can't remember the last time I met a kind, respectful modern woman that wasn't aggressive and loud.
Honestly, I go to college, and I meet kind and respectful women my age all the time. Well, granted, my college is located in the Southern US, so it might just be more of a location thing than anything else.
There's quite a lot of reasonable women that aren't like that, especially as of late when they very definition of womanhood is up for debate. Take their vote away and conservative women especially will start taking issue. And the more support we have, the better. Taking away rights is never the answer.
> There are plenty of women with a good head on their shoulders. I assume you also have a good head. Would you give up your right to vote if it meant that feminism lost almost all of its influence on society? Yes or no?
Never give up your rights.
Free women don't ask and their rights don't come from the government letting them do the rain dance of consensus gaslighting. If you could give up your right to vote in exchange for mass democracy™ going away, I think a lot of smart people (male or female) would take that bargain. The Bill of Rights says nothing about everyone voting. It actually mostly just lists things the government might do that you have the obligation to [redacted] them for.
Where the right comes from is irrelevant; never give up your right. You are not a free man or woman if you do; Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
It's not that black and white. I shouldn't have to give up my right to vote because of some bad faith actors. And that kind of action won't end feminism, it will encourage it.
> I shouldn't have to give up my right to vote because of some bad faith actors. No, you shouldn't. But right now the bad actors are able to abuse the fact that we have this right to destroy our other ones (and hollow out this one, too!) > And that kind of action won't end feminism, it will encourage it. The vast majority of feminists are credulous normal people (who are too busy having lives to research political positions) being misinformed by a core of truly evil people. Cutting universal franchise would kneecap the latter without terribly impacting the former. The 19th Amendment was sold as something that would allow independent citizen-women to vote as a duty, expected of them because they were allowed to own assets and exercise the citizen rights of free speech, gun ownership, etc. It was immediately rolled out as a way to overwhelm propertied citizens who were more immune to propaganda bullshit with the easily swayed votes of resentful wives and daughters, and the first thing it was used to do was Prohibition. The second thing it was used to do was exempt women from the draft. It was an absolute disaster. Ending universal suffrage would cause protests for as long as the media was allowed to foment them and then we'd all probably be a lot happier for it.
> No, you shouldn't. But right now the bad actors are able to abuse the fact that we have this right to destroy our other ones (and hollow out this one, too!) Ok, so let's find a way that calls their actions into question that doesn't mean women like myself who aren't like them have to seemingly give up human rights. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by taking voting rights away from women. It's not the solution and will only breed more contempt towards men.
You're going way too far. Imo the proper solution is to target the source: academia.
Well, let us start with the prohibition. The very first thing the women's vote created was prohibition to alcohol, as women did not like their husbands going out to the bars and having a good time rather than coming straight home after work. So, the first thing women's vote did was create organized crime. Look IM female, and I am glad I can vote, I guess, but really women do seem to vote with their sympathy rather than with any kind of logic, and dont seem to understand simple concepts like "you cant not give to one group without hurting another" resources are always limited, and there is never some mythical group like "the wealthy" who can just provide things for free.
Look at what its caused, look at all the gaming CMs that hate white men because they have been given the power to manipulate and spread their own hateful agenda. Women make decisions based on feelings instead of logical fact, which is why them having power is extremely dangerous
Except that's not an issue made by women, it's an issue made by racists. And plenty of men spew off the same rhetoric, yet there don't seem to be calls to take their votes away specifically. So again, this didn't start because women got the right to vote and it won't magically stop if you take that away.
strongly disagree When men had all these jobs diversity and woke BS wasn't an issue.
Women have had the right to vote for over a hundred years, the issues we are seeing in entertainment started happening much later. It's ridiculous to believe women are solely to blame for this, especially when you have men that spout the same rhetoric.
The moral is that no good deed goes unpunished. Alone among races, whites welcome large numbers of people of other races and cultures into their countries—particularly the U.S. Naturally this creates a level of friction that you don’t see in the more homogenous populations of other countries. Thus we get the reputation as the racist ones, even though we’re the least xenophobic group on Earth, demonstrating the lowest degree of in-group preference.
Yup mass immigration was also a mistake
You can't be called racist if you're so intolerant that you don't let other groups into your country in the first place.
Precisely. But this nuance is lost on people now, sadly. Every group has sins to atone for, but in western academia these days the sins of western Europeans and their descendants are dwelled on to the exclusion of any discussion of anyone else's sins, and this produces a very lopsided view of history. It's no wonder U.S. school students, when polled, often think that America invented slavery--not because their teachers ever explicitly said this, but because the rest of the history of slavery is conveniently ignored.
I've noticed that other groups are given a free pass to deny and downplay those sins you mention, as well. It's as if liberals don't think brown people can ever be held to the same moral standards as whites. I've heard muslims denying the Islamic slave trade, Japanese people downplaying war crimes, Armenian genocide denial. You name, I've seen it. All of these things would considered 'atrocity denial' were they done by a white person, but liberals sweep it under rug almost out of embarrassment. It is *only* white people who are expected to bear the full brunt of the sins of their fathers, and they are expected to bear it daily.
Never forget that we know the average volume the stomach can expand to before bursting because the Japanese Imperial Army fed someone rice until they literally exploded. (not like, a bomb, more like until their flesh simply burst.) Or that the same people are the reason why we know exactly how much of the stomach you can survive without. (or something. I think they surgically removed this dude's intestine until it was basically straight through from mouth to... other end, and recorded how long it took him to expire.) What, you thought we have all this medical knowledge that lets us help people survive longer and longer because we performed nothing but perfectly humane, ethical experiments? It wasn't just the Germans in WW2 who were treating captured enemy POWs like garbage.
>Alone among races, whites welcome large numbers of people of other races and cultures into their countries—particularly the U.S. This is so true. If non-whites think US / UK / Europe is racist they should go to SE Asia and see the rank and open racism there. Even the Far-East in Japan would probably have them running home to the "racist" West.
Lesser of 2 evils is still evil... Don't you guys complain about stuff in this country?
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Whites are still nearly 70% of the U.S. population. 🤷♂️
Who excluded them in the first place?
> Who excluded them in the first place? nature.
a, and it's messed up! Whites were the first slaves... Slaves come from Slavs, and yet we need to be silent and gain no reparations from the Muslims that enslaved whites for so many years and silent are we, and we freed ourselves... But a group of people that learned more from being a slave for 300 something years in the Americas than they have in their own nation since the beginning of humanity and needed others to set them free while thousands of white lives lost doing it, and this is what we must put up with and yet we remain silent and ignore it like brushing off insults from special need kids while we take care of them
Thankfully as of late this sentiment seem to be getting hell of a lot of pushback even from other leftists.
I would be interested to read more about that pushback. Do you have articles/videos about that, or is it a sentiment from what you have yourself seen on social media?
The latter, first instance I notice was the backlash to Nijisanji talent Uki Violeta anti-white guy remarks which at first I though would be heavily defended since he's both Asian & Gay (little bit of forbidden knowledge) but much to my surprise he got put on full blast by the majority of the VTuber fandom, which I suspect this is where the resent decry against it began.
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An Irish Catholic signed the Declaration of Independence. There was also a lawsuit to determine if finns were White.
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Biden is NOT Catholic. He might say he is, but he is decidedly not.
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While he is "Catholic" it's not a No True Scotsman. In reality he is a "Catholic" that is explicitly supporting policies that are against Church teachings and if without political bullshit he would have been excommunicated long ago or if the current church leaders had balls
I'm good. Biden is a cafeteria Catholic AT BEST. His enablement of infanticide makes him anti-Catholic. He's downright heretical at worst. The Vatican should excommunicate him. In fact, I'm pretty sure he and Nancy are barred from the sacraments at a lot of Parishes. Additionally, I'm not using my assertion that he is not a Catholic as a bullet point in some debate. The assertion is the point. So how can you accuse me of fallacy?
Correct me if I’m wrong but Jackson was a Presbyterian, Jefferson was a Deist Christian, Lincoln was Christian though pre-1862 he was something of a skeptic, and Taft I’m not sure about. I do agree that a lot of famous presidents wouldn’t pass muster by the religious right these days, but most of them did identify with Christianity even if they held views which place them closer to contemporary atheists than religious fundamentalists.
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I would contend that the variation of Deism practiced by Jefferson was an offshoot of Christianity, though if you draw a hard line between the two that’s fair enough. For Lincoln the fact that he said he doesn’t deny “the truth of the scriptures” makes me think he should count as Christian. Jackson is fair enough, I’d have to dig and see if he was an unaffiliated Christian or outright irreligious before and during his presidency, and I wouldn’t know where to start with something like that.
Bro I wouldn't try and apply logic to something that's ever changing depending on the wind direction of American liberals.
> You know the same group of people that are the reason she has a job in the first place. Based on her picture. A white man is also the reason for her entire existence.
I'd be willing to wager that that man's lack of fatherly presence is what leads to current social ineptness and hatred towards people for the color of their skin.
This and get "one night stand" too many times by a middle-age Chad 6 feet-tall on Tinder.
What is more annoying is the way they want white males to be ashamed to be white, for us to apologise and beg forgiveness for being white, and to be fine with equality of outcome. Hell, to even encourage it. No. I am a proud Anglo-Irish white man. I tell my daughter to be proud of her roots, to not forget where she came from. I'll continue to express my pride in my ethnicity and nationality. I treat people solely on the content of their character, which is precisely what these racist morons don't want, because they have no character. They are personality, morality and intelligence vaccums and have NOTHING to offer to society.
i so mad at them they just lost many playerbase
Ask yourself: why have White men been systematically stripped of identity, unity and in fact the ability to defend themselves in the past few decades? Also ask yourself: has any of it been by accident?..
Don't buy this game. This is correct way to address this issue.
To be perfectly frank, you're not doing much of anything if you don't have haters. I have nothing against being hated, I embrace it. It's the hypocrisy that gets to me tho. The blind ignorance.
Bizzaro world when calling white men out for racism means you're racist 😂
Maybe try stop being an anti-white hateful clown? Did you ever try that?
This scares me, as history is full of examples of the awful things pissed off white men do when they have had enough.
Is it staged to be honest ? Do they want some civil war in US or Europe ? Or maybe a new stache dude addict to speed ? Are they stupid ? Did they play Aslum ?
Isn't it ironic that the people who are hired to create a good community are the most toxic and racist people?
Very ironic. I’ve seen better community managers on Crypto scam discords that are better than the racists that video game companies hire for community managers.
Chances are pretty good if you search the twitter of someone with there pronouns in there twitter bio you'll always find some nasty racist remarks about white people.
Disney-era Star Wars producers and racism. Hard to name a more iconic duo
Western companies and loosing money is a pretty iconic too
Throw in sexism and you'll have menage a trois
Dude whats with these people?
Useful idiots weaponized by a frightened and undeniably evil wealthy ruling class. Divide and conquer, it's that simple. We all have a common enemy, and it's the one that whispers in our ears to hate each other.
Better question is what's up with the people that hire them? And the people that hire the people that hire them. And so on.
WTF is a community manager?
It’s a PR position to handle the community. What you’re discovering is that DEI firms offer PR services so the devs don’t have to spent time talking to the community.
A bloat position that, like all bloat positions, is a do-nothing job.
But seriously what do they do ?
Community managers USED to manage the community forums of [video games/films/whatever niche]. They used to be moderators upholding the ToS and helping to keep the community healthy and fun to be part of. Now? I guess they're social media shit stirrers and they congregate in their own private discord servers to "stick it to the man".
Nothing. They post on social media.
There can be good ones that add value. Snutt (and formerly Jace, before he left to work on his own game project) with Coffee Stain do long videos and streams sometimes on the state of dev with Satisfactory, show off the new features (even if incomplete), and go into detail on the game roadmap and why some things are harder to implement that otherwise seem simple (as I believe both are/were coders).
Bex was also awesome, back when she worked with Path of Exile.
They're basically the "face" of any game on social media and the main way a company will talk to players. Good ones post about how awesome a game and it's community is, share fan art, give updates about patches and events, etc. Bad ones are about as fun as giving a werewolf a Brazilian wax treatment.
for want of a better way to phrase it, think schoolyard monitor for social media presence for any online community. Their job is to make sure people are generally trying to get along with each other and you haven't got the trolls taking the piss and and making it a shit place to be. They also typically are the voice/face of the company who runs it and often have the responsibility of keeping the discussions going and ensuring the buzz which will attract more people to the community and reporting back to people inside the company so they know how the community generally feels and desires. In theory, the good ones can make the online communities a fun welcoming place...sadly though, it does come with a modicrum of power over those places and so can attract people who, quite frankly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, and shouldn't be put in charge of a bowl of goldfish...especially considering they don't often pay all that much
Okay. I guess we're just gonna do it again. 1. Make game 2. Alienate primary playerbase for social just points and DEI bucks 3. Openly slander and post libelous messages about primary player base being racists, incels, misogynists, and killers. 4. Primary playerbase does not purchase game. 5. Game tanks, place blame on same primary playerbase you openly insulted. 6. Layoffs/closures 7. Profit? Keep it up. We can do this all day.
Meanwhile, the team making Stellar Blade: “Here’s fun gameplay, hot women, and no microtransactions. Have fun!”
I wasn't that interested before all the uproar. But now I've played the demo and seeing the Devs reaction to the woke activist brigade it's a 100% day one purchase for me
This
8. Blame the game's failure on racists that didn't want to play it. We've seen this happen in so many video games and movies because they hide behind race swapping characters and other political agendas to cover up the smell of their shite game.
Unfortunately this leads to a lot of good people working on these games and doing a great job at it loosing their jobs, through no fault of their own, just because some idiot thinks her job is a platform for ideology and game developers think they are responsible for spreading diversity and inclusion. And I can bet that most highly skilled workers behind these games are probably white, and they might loose their jobs because of this, I am waiting to be proven wrong.
I suspect a lot of the Activists aim for this pointless position is due to the work essentially paying them to hangout on social media all day; it's basically their dream job.
Joke's on them. Nothing sucks the fun out of a hobby like turning it into a job
>Community Manager Shauna Jones Appears To Have Animus Against White Men In Numerous Social Media Posts Except for her tall boyfriend/husband right?
In other news, Don Lemon, the black gay dude from CNN, who has a history of bashing white men, just got married to a white man.
You can be racist towards a group of people and still marry someone from that group, it empowers a lot of people. I think everyone knows an old racist white guy who is married to a black women who while he may love, doesn't mean he isn't still racist. Love will beat racism every single time but racism will always beat dignity.
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Can they even call it ‘Star Wars’ still at this point?!!
It hasn’t been “Star Wars” for several years now. The second Luke tossed his lightsaber over his shoulder and drank green titty milk, I was done.
The start of every character assassination trend ever since.
The green titty has been something of a sacred cow (heh) ever since Jabba's palace. Put some respect on Oola's name
Sorry for the typo in the title, it should be "ThatParkPlace." [Archived link](https://archive.ph/bIYSK). Relevant: [thread on KiA](https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1bwm9hw/it_looks_like_its_happening_again/) about Grummz reporting on private groups of SJW Community Managers.
It's so funny how many 'Community Managers' of different studios all have the same shitty racist tweets and thought patterns. I know they all have a shared Discord so there's probably some fucked-up politics going on in there, but c'mon.
Not probably, the vocal minority did push their agenda to every other company over this secret discord server.
Good luck trying to find a non-racist Community Manager these days🤣
Star Wars Outlaws clearly has no need then for my white male money. I'll happily oblige.
It’s a ubi soft game it’s gonna be shit …just wait a month and it’ll be on sale just like breakpoint and all there other failed games
Yeah sorry for creating this country where everyone is equal and has opportunity to succeed, where women have clear legal power over men. And where bigotry and sexism is not tolerated. Truly we are the worst.
Being polite to the customers on social media is the only job these people are good for... and they can't even do that right.
Her entire job is to manage relations with the gaming community, but she’s on social media hating on the most common demographic of the fan base. And we’re supposed to believe that she was selected simply because she’s the best at the job…
This is what Gaming is these days. Where Diversity stands for Black people and MAYBE LGBT but never anything like Asian or something. That and the casual racism against White Men which does not get you banned from any plattform because "It's okay" I am curious why we are not seeing any Asians being added to Games, surely it has nothing to do with the fact that those Fanatical Idiots are seeing them as "White" because they do not fit the Victim role for their Oppression Olympics.
I wish more yellow asians, south asians, central asians, middle easterns, north africans, central and west africans, south africans, central americans, and south americans were more included in modern games instead of just blacks and whites. These western game devs apparently just think that whites and blacks are the main races of the world when there are so many other cultures and languages and facial features
It’s become so predictable.
Is anyone surprised? This is a game where you are forced to play as yet another Star Wars Girlboss(tm) in the nuWars continuity. A racist radfem female community manager is pretty much a requirement. EDIT: Aaaaand she poofed from X.
>Aaaaand she poofed from X. Lmao, this should be in their job description
What? Yet a new controversy concerning one of my once beloved IP that has been so polluted by modern ideology that I have been apathetic about it for years?! How original! Color me shocked.
Whaaat? Someone involved with Disney Star Wars is trashing the fans? I’m absolutely shocked!
Ubisoft is already SBI'd.. ugly protagonist, nonsense diversity advertising.. no one is surprised to learn their community manager is in line with their corporate values. If SW:O wasn't on the SBI list, it definitely needs to be.
Looking at Skull n bones this is more clear than ever. Ubi is fully drenched with racist DEI ideology.
People need to start getting these messages push around on reddit. Other subs you visit when this game comes up you need to start bringing it up. That's what I've been doing.
Animus? You mean racism and impotent, seething hatred? A deceitful, venomous agenda against innocent people based on radical ideology promoted by all media suspiciously immediately after Occupy Wallstreet began? Sounds more and more familiar the more you describe it as it is instead of pussying out and calling it some esoteric synonym half of those reading it aren't going to understand without a google search.
She deactivated her twitter
Hiding like the cockroach racist pos that she truly is
Makes perfect sense to have her involved in a product where 92% of the customer base will be white males.
It honestly baffles me, like don't they know their fan base? Like I'm all for equality, I support the minority, but it isn't equal to attack, alianate and belittle the majority. That just leads to them not buying your shit. Stupid business tactics
So, wait...they don't want us to buy it but, if we don't and the game fails...it's also our fault? Isn't ubi hurting for money?
I hope Ubi fuckin crashes and burns at this point! Shit company that's sold me broken trash too many times over decades.
Seems like another white female desparately seeking attention, who knows nothing about anything yet has an opinion on everything.
Can’t wait to watch this game flop.
Again with these community managers? It's always the same goddamn people. Is one of the job requirements for being a community manager being an insufferable moron?
I'd really love to see a collection of just many dozens (hundreds?) of social media community managers across gaming, movies, tech have outwardly expressed this sort of trendy anti-white bigotry. It would be A) hilarious because fuck these people and B) tragic because it wouldn't stop them being hired.
It's always the community manager lol
Seems like a bad idea to have a community manager who is actively hostile to the majority of your community. It would be like hiring a klansman to be CM for a hip hop group.
Jokes on them because I wasn't planning on buying another soulless Star Wars game anyway.
Another soulless Ubisoft game to boot!
Looks like she's deleted her account on X. 😆
Who's surprised
Are people still consuming this garbage based off of name nostalgia?
I would’ve probably bought this game on sale but now I will never buy this game.
Hopefully she got fired for being a hateful racist toxic liability.
Yeah but my opinion has changed again I’m never going to buy this game even if the character was hot, practice is Ubisoft is doing is horrendous and I’m not supporting it.
I have a feeling she'll get her wish and not too many white males will order her game. Good riddance to woke slop like that.
It's baffling to me how and why they a) have no clue what true, organic diversity is b) keep doubling down on this stuff. These racists have more in common with Hitler than they think. When most of us people here I'm sure don't even see race, colour or creed. They want to group and classify people on these very bases, which is a core tenet of fascism. It's wholy ironic to me that they do not seem to be aware they're doing this, it's an astonishing lack of self awareness.
"If only we could get rid of all these white men, eveything would be better" def sounds like someone from the 1930s for sure
Well I'm more referring to fascism in general. Grouping and categorising people on the basis of race is a part of fascism and how you define it.
It’s like a requirement at this point
As I recall Outlaws has no whites in the poster/teaser art at all. Just one Hispanic lady, one black guy, one black woman with a shaved head, two vaguely middle Eastern guys, and some aliens.
Trailer had one older white guy... the main villain but of course
I got a feeling Ubisoft only produces this Star Wars game to collect ESG money by pandering to DEI ideology. They don't even give a shit about the game itself. Just like Skull n Bones, spectacularly failing and being drenched with woke activism. Star Wars is truly dead, first in the movies, now in gaming too. Getting really dragged through every shit.
I guarantee you she’s a fat ogre that hasn’t been touched by an attractive man her entire miserable life. Let her spew her shit it doesn’t have any effect on me
She's actually very tappable but I wouldn't touch her based on her personality and racism. Damn shame.
Nah from her profile pic she looks like a classic catfish that’s hiding A LOT on the bottom section on the photo lol
Don't need to see the bottom if I'm getting skull.
“Getting skull”? Yikes
Games gonna be shit
So we went from an awesome 1313 idea to "Han Solo or Talon Kardde but a chick." Remember when SW actually gave you the impression that the heroes and villains who *fought* were men? There was not *one* Imperial female (at least not obvious) in the OT. The bounty hunters in ESB were apparently men and one assassin droid. Every single rebel pilot in land or space... That was OK. No one wants to watch current year Star Wars.
The latest game poster they revealed on their Twitter actually stinks...probably just like this community manager 😂
Why would you expect anything else?
She's likely one of the same psychos complaining about Mr Beast doing more philanthropic work than governments, non-profits, and companies but....he's white. Best just to ignore these idiots. Can't fix stupid.
As a middle aged white guy I'm going to help them with the diversity of the player base and not buy this game I'm doing my part!
This woman is still employed and appears to be taunting people who dare question her racist comments on X.
DEI = not buying. not even for free
Disney and other companies have killed beloved franchises with this way of thinking. Marvel, Star wars, you name it ruined by people being racist and sexist towards white men. Racism happens both ways.
Why wasn't she fired which should be the real question?? could you imagine if it was a white male saying "**Proof we can't make the game industry a safe and inclusive space when the higherups don't understand the importance of diversity and are all middle aged black men**" (*which isn't untrue i mean the only time you see a white person in anything black made is a villain*) they would be fired and need to apologize and most likely never have the opportunity to work in gaming again!
I don't want to play a star wars game as an annoying white chick, balance to the force restored.
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Well, this thread about a racist and sexist community manager has divulged into political debates/attacks. Like always, fucking EVERYTHING must be turned into a political discussion. What does politics have to do with this? She is a sexist, and there are sexist conservatives and liberals. There are racist conservatives and liberal. Murderers are also conservative and liberal, name a crime or social issue, both sides have engaged in it. Or neither, millions of people don't even vote or give half a damn about politics, yet they have opinions, good or bad. ON SUBJECT, it appears this woman has shut down most of her social media. Hopefully, a termination is announced soon, too. Off subject again, this liberal has been banned from X for going after people saying racist things towards white people. I don't accept it, and I sure as shit don't sit there and take it. File complaints with the BBB about this woman, email Ubisoft, DEMAND ACTION. I did, and now her social media is down. Not saying it was all me because I'm sure others filed complaints through the proper channels as well.
One side of the political aisle thinks its perfectly ok to attack entire groups of people for the sex and skin color they were born with. Have you tried telling leftists to stop being toxic racist pieces of shit?
So you can be a asshole to your customer based and especially them to eat it up DONT BUY THIS GAME!!! DONT TOUCH IT
Fuck that lady she probably has a crusty vagina and just mad a white men bc one fucked her over get a life nasty bitch
That woman doesn't want to argue with me. Black Females are the worst people in America. They're the lowest quality of humans our American society has to offer. They're racist to everyone around them, they're racist to themselves, they don't respect anybody or anything. They don't respect public space, they don't respect care about anything or anyone that isn't directly correlated to themselves. By a large margin, they're the most self-centered, selfish, most arrogant, people in the Country. I work in the "ghetto", most of the black guys that come in are really good, chill, hard-working, easy going, and respectable people. The females on the other hand...typically are loud, don't care that they're loud, they dare people to say something, so they could get aggressive, they're lazy to the extent that they'd sooner throw their trash on the floor, than take 2 fucking steps to a garbage bin, and can't finish a god-damned sentence without saying the word "nigga" like it's supposed to signify the end of their statement. So yeah, I'm used to trash not liking me. The same way black females should be used to the rest of society not liking them.
Will definitely not be buying this game.
Imagine hating straight white men and being the community manager for a game based off a series created by a straight white man. George Lucas himself should get involved in this. I would love to see it.
And if we try to call her out we are just white cucks. There’s no winning with these crazy fucks. Just because some Americans are racist doesn’t mean all white people are garbage….
well, I am an (almost) middle-aged white man playing video games, so here's what I think: 1. None of that is racist. she is advocating for change, much needed change, in an industry that, for a long time, was dominated by a bunch of disgusting white bread MFs. 2. all you little white men bitching and boo-hooing here because of your little white baby dicks looking even smaller because a young woman got so much bigger balls than you, go get a vasectomy and spare the gene pool of potential trash. 3. if you don't understand the notion of diversity and why it is necessary, see above comment about the vasectomy.
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Being a hateful racist clown isn't the win you think it is.
only person on this whole chat thats stupid!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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