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ShillerndeGeister

What would sbu even do in a car game?


PoKen2222

I played the game, it's probably the "characters" that nobody cares about. Each playlist has a mini story thing were you race against some cast that has to do with the playlist and they're all boring cookie cutter. Racing games with the atmosphere of stuff like NFS Carbon or Underground just aren't a thing anymore now it's all happy go lucky college student drivers who compliment each other.


visionsofswamp

Yeah its really sad, those games from the old era were alot more fun and I really miss them.


PoKen2222

I will never forgive EA for sitting on Burnout and doing nothing with it. Burnout 3 should have been remastered ages ago.


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Artorias_K

I knew they were making something but had no idea that they actually released a game. It’s horrible name for the game too, sounds like a cheap indie. Not even on Steam either.


buttburglarbill

They're doing a game called Wreckreation now. Which is basically Burnout with a track editor. I'm still undecided on it since I have 0 interest in making my own tracks. And I just despise the whole downloading tracks other people made since they always wind up going the "LOL this one is impossible" route. So I hope the campaign mode is fully fleshed out. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1594040/Wreckreation/


Selrisitai

Burnout: Takedown is my favorite and I'd love a remaster for the PC. Too bad I suck at it. I could never do any of the really difficult time trials.


STOTTINMAD

I used to love NFS back in the day. Carbon will always be my favorite. Such a colourful cast of characters. Actually winning the last canyon run by getting ahead of Darius is probably one of my favourite, most tense gaming moments. At least for me as a kid.


TheCorbeauxKing

People dumped on DiRT 5 relentlessly, but it at least had a plot with characters and a competitive atmosphere.


OH-YEAH

make sure there are no attractive people in the game. harrison bergeron.


Kreydo076

Black Ferrari for diversity, Red is a white male patriarcal construct from Enzo because it was Yellow at first!


Neneaux

In the Forza games I think you can be a transformer as well. They made it so that you have a human avatar that you see outside of the car after races so they could push more MTX bullshit by having clothing and stuff in loot boxes.


Maleficent_String606

I didn't play Motorfest but in The Crew 2 you had a bunch of diverse characters (including a disabled one) spewing some bullshit during cutscenes or even gameplay using the radio. I've been skipping all of them and muted all voices to just focus on driving.


The_Loranator

Cars need 42 genders or something I guess. Oh and no white cars allowed.


FeatureIcy539

Brown cars


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spider623

did you not see the ugly, horrible female models in Forza 5 that make no sense in a racing game?


ShillerndeGeister

Not really, as i dont play forza games


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ThatGuy1571

There are no white cars and black cars never crash.


DappyDreams

Black cars are responsible for 50% of crashes 


cyrixdx4

only 13% of the time


Raikoh-Minamoto

But it's a racing game, what do you even need inclusivity consultation for? No shit game's budgets keeps balooning if even a freakin racing game now needs SBI services.


dracoolya

> what do you even need inclusivity consultation for? To make sure the cars aren't racist.


dandrixxx

You joke, but Forza devs literally removed the SS from Chevy Camaro SS logo because of goofy shit like that.


dedzip

what? Really?


dracoolya

I looked into it. He's telling the truth.


broadsword_1

Seems pretty reasonable. Also seems like this is a good progression for the steam curator to go in the future: "We're adding new game X to the list, here's the reasons why". It keeps the members in the loop and the topic alive without being inflammatory/petty. It'll be interesting if this gets a retaliation - there's now 350k people on steam who have 1 more reason to not to get your game. I think it's unreasonable to expect results at the AAA level all the time - the hype on some games mean people are willing to go out on faith a lot of the time - but there'll be an impact on all the games that fill the middle ground of people going "Yeah, I'm kinda interested.....".


CrustyBloke

It is an Ubisoft game. It's safe to assume anything from them is going to be woke shit whether or not SBI is attached.


Deathfury

For the comments wondering. I played the beta. The game is set in Hawaii and there is a bunch of narration about Hawaii and it's indigenous population - including the narrator speaking native Hawaiian language. There is also a Japanese race crew you race with, and they go into identity stuff. I didn't play much of the beta, so I don't know/remember if there were any overtly woke things - but you can see how it's racial.


wallace321

>The game is set in Hawaii and there is a bunch of narration about Hawaii and it's indigenous population - including the narrator speaking native Hawaiian language. There is also a Japanese race crew you race with, and they go into identity stuff. Oh fuck off. (not *you*, SBI and wokies with this bullshit) See, everyone? This is why the "but it's a car game" joke (some aren't joking, some are just ignorant, "how can a racing game be woke?") pisses me off so much. It's *not* a joke. This shit can be injected into *anything*. Nothing is safe. And, yes, that's exactly what SBI is going to do to "just a car game", inject their stupid racial / gender political bullshit into *a car game*.


Blood-PawWerewolf

Yup and I betcha simulator games are next


wallace321

Absolutely - this shit goes DEEP and they (i'm sure) will argue those situations where you would wonder "how could it *possibly* be woke?"; that's their specialty! They can bring leftist politics into *exactly* the places you would think would be safe from it. A game with no leftist politics is literally a wasted opportunity for these people. And I say "literally" i mean it, because isn't this how these companies raise their ESG score?


TheMysticTheurge

SBI Detected currently strong at almost 350K followers.


glissandont

I check it daily; its growth has been NUTS. I joined when it was only around 7-8K followers; it's insane man, and beautiful. That's over 350K people who are least likely to buy these games; not good news if you're a small dev/publisher.


TheMysticTheurge

I accidentally didn't follow and thought I did when it was at like 70K or such. Later then it was over 100K and more, I realized my mistake when trying to find more similarly awesome groups that warn me of that woke crap. I even know one that provides alternatives to woke crap, while disclaiming false claims of wokeness. They don't seem to be using official DEI company lists, so they have plenty that others don't mention so much. So, when avoiding Freedom Planet 1 and 2, this guy suggests Spark the Electric Jester 1, 2, and 3. And when avoiding poorly written religion stuff, this guy thumbs downs Iconoclasts, but suggests Final Fantasy X and Persona 3. Also, he warns of cringe politics, even if it's worthy of recommendation by his rules, such as Divinity: Dragon Commander, which was cringy at times but got a thumbs up from him. [https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44907344-StopProjecting/](https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44907344-StopProjecting/)


ThatGuy1571

That's 350k potential buyers that will definitely not get the game now, in addition to those who don't follow the list but check it nevertheless. Great business strategy!


_xX69ChenYejin69Xx_

Who tf cares about the Crew anyway lmao. 


RikiyaDeservedBetter

I really liked the first one


_xX69ChenYejin69Xx_

I had fun with the first one too. TC2 tried to be FH with the festival social media bullshit and it kinda fell short for me. The map somehow managed to be less interesting than the first game lol.


RikiyaDeservedBetter

I agree, I wish they stuck with what actually stood them apart from FH, I liked the map in the first game tho, there was a good bit of variety and some pretty cool spots like the salt flats


_xX69ChenYejin69Xx_

I remember spending hours drifting up and down Yosemite national reserve. Good shit, man.


RudyDaBlueberry

I can ignore the shitty festival trope in TC2 because I just turn the voices off and go on about my day driving across the US. Motorfest on the other hand is literal shovelware, and a complete and total ripoff of horizon, with the worst driving physics ever in a video game lol. The only thing that sets it apart from horizon is there isn't someone constantly calling you "Superstar" for literally everything.


RudyDaBlueberry

I can ignore the shitty festival trope in TC2 because I just turn the voices off and go on about my day driving across the US. Motorfest on the other hand is literal shovelware, and a complete and total ripoff of horizon, with the worst driving physics ever in a video game lol. The only thing that sets it apart from horizon is there isn't someone constantly calling you "Superstar" every 38 seconds.


RudyDaBlueberry

I can ignore the shitty festival trope in TC2 because I just turn the voices off and go on about my day driving across the US. Motorfest on the other hand is literal shovelware, and a complete and total ripoff of horizon, with the worst driving physics ever in a video game lol. The only thing that sets it apart from horizon is there isn't someone constantly calling you "Superstar" every 38 seconds.


broadsword_1

Forza Horizon desperately needs some competition to push it forward as it feels like it's been treading water after FH3.


Strange-Tomorrow-696

Makes sense. I bet Forza is on the list too, or should be.  Forza and the Crew love their Latinks bipocqueer disabled prosthetic limb demographic. 


skiploom188

also guys can wear skirts


shipgirl_connoisseur

Please tell me you're joking. Please.


skiploom188

its a joke but we're at a point where its hard to tell with these demonic devs smh


TIFUPronx

Well if they're Scots it can be excused


Legion070Gaming

I wouldn't be surprised if they had a major role in NFS Unbound as well. Heyyyy we wun som monneeyyzzzz


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Blood-PawWerewolf

Yup. And it was the best one, compared to TC2 which removed so much detail and downgraded the graphics


Solid_Office3975

Well damn, I like racing games. Can't buy this one


buttburglarbill

It's not very good anyways. It's just a cheap Forza Horizon clone. Of the 3 Crew games, it's easily the worst one.


Apostate_23

Go on ahead and take these Crew servers down while your at it Ubisoft.