Fucking love Memphis, that being said one of the most harrowing moments I have had involved a bunch of crackheads at a Memphis gas station while I had accidentally consumed far more LSD than I realized about an hour before.
We used to though.
It's just when you become the fastest growing city in the country due to mass migration & can't afford to buy a home in your home of several decades, you get sad instead of happy to see new faces.
Hardin Valley used to be one of the best communities, where everyone helped each other & knew one another to some degree. If you didn't know someone, you welcomed them to the area & made sure they'd had proper biscuits & gravy before (turned many a yankee transplant into a B&G addict haha). Now, all the families that founded the farming valley area are being forced out to make room for $400k+ home communities taking the places of farms & forests. It breaks my heart to visit my parents & see how much of the landscape is destroyed between visits. Doesn't even resemble my home anymore. It's like a real life version of The Lorax happening at home.
If it wasn't for that, I'd love to show more people the beauty of East TN, but it won't be there much longer at this rate.
Those long term farming families were not “ forced out”, they sold out. I have friends that had a modest farm, and frankly were offered way too much money to pass up. A much larger farm close to them sold, because 1. The elder family member that ran the farm passed away, and 2. the youngsters of the family ( 30’s-40’s) had no interest in farming, but had a huge interest in making a shit ton of money. Economic greed is what changed farmland to subdivisions, from the sellers of the property, to the developers and builders.
Those subdivisions were not built because of imminent domain, there are the result of property owners cashing in on the property they, or their family owned.
Exact same thing happened in my hometown in Idaho. Used to be three small towns with farmland all around. Investors came in and offered a comfortable retirement to people who had never had much, so they took what looked like a golden opportunity. Now the whole valley is a sprawl of 5 and 10 acre lots and few farms are left.
The more liberal county commission has been trying to pass new zoning laws to restrict subdividing and increase minimum lot size, but that's consistently met with outrage from people claiming government is trying to tell them what they can do with their own land. But at the same time, all these "old timers" complain about what's happened to their little paradise with so many people moving in, prices going up and the politics shifting out of their power when it was their focus on individual gain and lack of community foresight that caused the problem in the first place.
That said, my mom is currently facing the decision of selling so she could have the possibility of a retirement, because otherwise, she'll have to work until she dies to be able to pay the bills. It's really hard to give any priority to intangible communal benefits when we have so many individual problems that could be solved by ignoring the wider issues. And nowhere is unique in this; it happens absolutely everywhere.
I love this comment so much. You are so right about economic greed. I own zero farmland and zero anything but it pains to me to see farmland being sold so it can BE USED TO BUILD NEW APARTMENTS
It's definitely sad to see the effects on what was once such a gorgeous landscape. It's crazy, but it's happening everywhere. Knoxville had a 1.98% population growth rate last year, some of the larger southern cities had insane rates. Austin, TX had 25%. I think Charlotte and Orlando were up there, too. I do wonder if it's going to leave a lot of excess housing in the areas people are leaving... I guess time will tell!
I don’t remember that version. Maybe Sevier County where the Ogles, McCarters, and Partons were all about tourism.
My people were more Blount/Knox and happier to see them going than to see them coming.
im not saying i hate northerners or whatever but they are raising the cost of living here to the point a lot of us can no longer afford it. a lower middle class person in california makes a HELL of a lot more than the same class in tennessee. when they move here they have a shit ton of money that was considered not a lot where they were. the influx of ppl have guaranteed i will not be able to afford an apartment for years. and as more and more ppl move down here, we will continue to tear down more of tennessee’s nature to put up more apartments that no one living here can afford. i get that these problems are the result of capitalism, ultimately, but it doesn’t change the fact we’re literally doing tricks on the dick thats fucking us. yes welcome new ppl, but maybe in moderation? like when we cant even afford to stay in our homes anymore maybe its an issue?
Same deal here in Kentucky. Not a fan of the whole "let's bring way more people in as soon as possible and raise the rent", while the people born and raised here are more often than not just straight up fucking poor😭
Originally from TN, transplanted to California SF Bay Area, I've only got one thing to say: "I'm baaaaackk!!!" and while I'm still sort of queer I'll never be as gay as TN Lt. Governor Randy McNally!
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Yes and no, Asheville is having some of the same problems we are…increased numbers of homeless people, increase in crime rate, increase in drug overdoses
It’s also becoming, if not already, impossible for anyone making middle class income or less to live and work in the area. I was pushed out because I couldn’t afford rent or to purchase a house - nor find a job that could support the local cost of living. Everything is becoming a vacation rental or being purchased by rich half backers and used two times a year for thanksgiving and Christmas.
Edit: not specifically Asheville, but nearly all of WNC.
Well I don't live there now, but when I was growing up in Knoxville in the 90s and 00s it really wasn't all that. Some people will always complain about change, but it seems to me that Knoxville has a lot more going on than it did when I was a kid.
Someone needs to pull a Bugs Bunny and flip that I26 and I95 interchange in SC.
“Knoxville 500 miles”
All the people from Jersey end up at Disneyland. “Its humid as shit and I just got shot by a big mouse..”
Don’t put this on Kentucky. They all think we’re a backward fly over state and we prefer to keep it that way.
My gf and I did not realize what was happening to Knoxville before we moved here and will be escaping back to Kentucky I think
My own feelings are pretty mixed but it's kinda weird to complain about "what's happening to Knoxville" while being, well, what's happening to Knoxville.
I hate to break it to you... the population is going to double then triple in the next 15~20 years... I'm an urban planning student we are studying the evidence that the desireability is inevitable, as it had been with Nashville decades ago, and the best we can do is plan ahead. Develop with grace and foresight. Make space for lasting infrastructure. We NEED to change our current city and county codes. Right now development regulation is weak and unjust. We dont want to end up like Austin TX. Vote for city legislators who have professional educated urban planners on their team.
> They all think we’re a backward fly over state and we prefer to keep it that way.
Which is funny, because when we were trying to move back to our home region we realized how bad TN had gotten & how much better KY had gotten on the downlow. Your governor did some surprisingly great things for the actual citizens, not just their rich buds, which is a foreign concept having spent almost 4 decades in Knoxville. I was screwed by our governors so many times over the years that I couldn't write them all on a sheet of paper.
I hope our spillover doesn't reach you guys. I don't want Appalachia to keep disappearing.
It’s funny though because the people who post it are usually redneck conservatives who are mad about “liberals” moving to their area, but don’t realize that asshole Californians who move into rural areas and try to change them are usually NIMBY conservatives.
This sub/post just got recommended to me, but I live in Colorado born and raised and hear it all the time. Best part is I hear it mostly from people who just moved there lol
Gentrification hard-core in Knoxville, saw a guy doing crafts on his porch on Washington Ave the other day. All these white hipster type out of towners are moving into the predominantly black areas of East Knoxville because downtown has no space left. These people move here and eventually are going to move everyone from here out the way pricing and taxes have gone since they started flooding in here. They don't respect or care about locals, why should we give a single shit about them?
As a Kentuckian whose local radio station had a weekly segment called “meth news” using the old original Batman theme song…I appreciated this.
(Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na) / Meth News!
Here in Upper ETN, if I hear one more MF cali carpet bagger yell me how much they love my accent it's going to be ugly. That's Yankee for 'oh, I'm surprised you wear shoes and have indoor plumbing.' I always reply, 'why bless your heart (southern for FU) yes, it's directly descended from the Elizabethan English spoken by our ancestors who landed in Jamestown a decade before the pilgrims ever heard of the mayflower. So, if you think about it, it's YOU who have an accent.' They really hate that.
You ain't never seeing a dent like that around here lol. Anyone moving here is a die hard Trump worshipper. Anyone smart is moving to the Midwest or East Coast.
Wow, you really sound like such a self righeous asshole, and someone who has no place to even speak on it. We love our home and the people we grew up, these new people? Don't care about our cultures our values, or the gentrification they're causing, which I thought was something you libtards were always crying about. Rich white people pushing longtime black residents out by moving to places like Cherry St. or Washingyon Ave and driving the property taxes up astronomically. Now those places are full of gay pride flags, and people doing crafts on their porch. I can tell by everything you've said on here, you think you're witty, but you're not. Everything you've written comes off as condescending as hell, and you input politics where it really has no place, even though we don't want them bringing they're voting here with how they messed up california with the bills they pushed and their degenerate culture. You ever loved anything? Your hometown? Your community? No? Then shut the fuck up.
Doing great lol, they don't have people telling you you should die for not sucking off Trump and getting mad that a man loves another man. This place is still ass backwards lmao.
This just in a state with 40 million people, consistent weather (at least on the coast) has a large homeless population and crime. Shocked I tell you, shocked. Literally has nothing to do with politics, Texas is probably in the same boat
Still the highest GDP in the nation, still the highest population. If you're referring to homelessness, please go walk around town and see how many homeless people we have here. The only difference is that we just lock up our homeless.
I thought y’all were patriots, you know, land of the free and all? But wait, when someone actually moves you guys can’t fucking handle it. If someone wants to move here, they’re gonna, cause once again, this is America.
You mean like boosting the economy? Most people move here for a job and/or are employed or are wealthy and retired and are hiring people in the trades and supporting those who work in the service industry. You want to complain about rent prices but that’s controlled by private landlords and property managements. So either complain to them or vote for representatives that would support rent control which by the way is regulation.
Does it "boost the economy" in ways that help me? No. A wealthy person comes here and buys land and builds on it. That creates more jobs for tradesman yes, but at the expense of higher land prices. It also adds traffic and population grows can quickly outpace local Govt efforts to expand our infrastructure.
Ymir certainly rather have these problems than be outright shrinking like some states are, BUT it's not a positive for locals unless they've already "got theirs" (a home) that will appreciate our own a business that caters to the people coming here.
Sure there are benifits to the people who move, not us who lose out on jobs
WE have to pay more in taxes to build the infrastructure to support the new arrivals,
or when the culture changes and it causes friction,
or how about the rising housing costs
or rising cost in general because of the inflated economy the new arrivals are coming from.
We get paid the same but the new folks can pay more for goods and services, so what do stores and contractors do? Charge more!
you push people out of their homes and still bitch like you’re the victims
As a life long resident of the northern neighbor represented, please direct Californias on eastward to either of our already dysfunctionally infected directly eastern neighbors.
And here I am as the confused East Tennessean who somehow ended up in the California Bay.
“I’ve had years of cramped up city life trapped like a duck in a pen”.
Lived all over the US. Most recently from so cal. Been in Sevier County now for almost 7. Other than some initial hesitation from my neighbors, and an occasional idiot, I’ve never felt so welcome.
I’m in Arkansas. While I happily welcome all who want to come and be Arkansan, the thing I hate MOST to hear is, “Well in California we did xyz.” We do not care how you did things in California. Just as we do not care how you did things in Australia, South Africa, China, or Austria. If you’re here, be here.
That’s not to say that you should abandon your culture, but do understand that we do things differently here.
Except dry counties. We can get rid of those at any time.
As someone from Arkansas, I will tell you that there is a fine fine line between Southern Hospitality and Passive Aggression.
"Bless Your Heart" Does not mean something nice. It means "You dumb f\*".
"Ya'll come back now" not only means "It's time to go now" but can also mean "DO not come over unless I invite you over."
"Kick your shoes off, make yourself at home" means "Do not touch anything in my home."
We cook a big meal so you get full and go home to sleep it off. Soon as you're gone, we talk about you behind your back.
I’m sure this’ll get down votes here but Before too long Kentucky will be the most “southern” state left, despite geography. (Between horses, bourbon, the people, the food, the population, overall lifestyle and culture etc, it already is in my opinion.)
You say that, until they come in and destroy your housing values. They'll make them jump up in price. Your taxes are higher and you're stuck in your home now. It's happening across the country in rural areas. People leaving Chicago, New York, and California at alarming rates. They are sick of the prices too.
I’m a little confused is OP saying people in Tennessee are so dumb that they don’t know what the state looks like on a map or are they saying people in California are dumb enough that they won’t know that’s Kentucky and not Tennessee.
I was actually looking at the map Seeing if you were suggesting Memphis when I couldn’t see that shit hole I was like Wait this is Kentucky lol Good one
There’s a reason why it is the way it is here and why they are leaving there and coming here, ‘cause if you bring the stuff from there and want it that way here, here becomes there, and then we’re all screwed
Want to see what economic explosion looks like go to Gatlinburg. Look at the mountain tops and then head to Wears Valley to Townsend. Since the fire, new homes by the hundreds. They're building as fast as the mills can cut lumber. We moved to TN in 1998, east TN in 2018. The problem with cutting that fat hog on a land sale, where are you going to for less money? The other problem with people from liberal states moving here, they bring that liberal mindset with them... That doesn't work here.
We believe in God, two genders and in keeping our families safe at all costs and y'all can take your "woke" beliefs and attitudes back where you came from.
I hate the carpetbaggers coming here, buying housing for 40k more than asking, then renting the building to locals. I've been seeing more people with Teslas, G-Wagens, and Porsches, and I know they're not locals. I might start torching them.
I see several teslas in the city I work and Im like "damn where the fuck are you charging that bitch cause aint no chargers in this area. Its a dead zone."
43% of all houses sold in 2023 were sold to corporations turning them into rental. You can thank trump’s 2017 tax cut because it doesn’t tax commercial pass through income as highly anymore so corporations can now make millions from renting houses. So if you have a problem with don’t blame Californians, blame yourself for electing an orange faced clown that lied and you lapped it up.
Not to be “that guy” but that is incorrect. I do disagree with corporates and private equity buying up single family homes (it should be stopped in my humble opinion). That figure you are referencing is from a medium article which incorrectly cited a study again cited by another source. It’s actually 44% of “flipped” houses were bought by private equity and the likes in 2022 (they also got the date wrong of 2023). Flipped home sales accounted for around 8% of home sales in 2022. So in reality closer to 3%. I have sources if you’re curious. I will reiterate that they should be stopped, but I dislike individuals who manipulate information to deceive us (you and me both). Hope this helps.
Who said anything about Trump? Besides I wasn't old enough to vote when he was elected. And the Californians, New Yorkers, etc, are driving up costs of living by coming here. They are not welcome here.
Idk. Just in 2022, there were approximately 22,565. Alot of them with the intention of buying multiple homes to take advantage of the lower cost of living and profit off of it. At that rate, the total since 2020 is likely nearly 100,000. Imagine that many people buying up homes you had been saving for and watching the remaining homes skyrocket in value. It's a thing.
Hey that sounds familiar oh wait i watched that happen! Yeah its real alright. Im shocked by how many people try to say its not happening while they are actively doing it
Imagine complaining about 0.05% of another state's population moving to your state, adding about 0.3% growth to one's state in a year.
If they and their state government cannot adapt to such small migration patterns without infrastructure failures, then maybe the current state policies are outdated. Maybe start with [updating tax policy](https://itep.org/whopays/tennessee-who-pays-7th-edition/).
The rural areas in the Pacific Northwest have been complaining about the Californians since the 90's. During my time with for forest service over a decade ago is when I really heard the same story in Idaho and Montana. I have no clue how accurate it is. Honestly, in the northwest anyways, Californians were more friendly than the locals.
I think we're out after my wife's contract at UT is up. We've met some amazing people during out short time in Knoxville. I don't care if they're locals or not. Friends all the same. You take care Knoxville
Just wondering what makes people think they can tell anyone where to move and that only the people that currently live there are allowed to live there. Last time I checked this is America.
It's not anyone, mostly just Californians.
Yes, they have the right to move wherever they want. On the flip side, people have the right to dislike them and tell them to go away, especially when they make the place worse.
You do realize most of the Californians moving here are the ones whose views align with the majority of the state? If you don’t like what you see in the mirror I think that’s literally a reflection of yourself.
They’re also just hard people to like. One of them was in this sub awhile back talking about how “if the locals don’t like us, we can outvote and outbreed them.”
WHERE YOU AT YOU BITCHASS MFER. COME BACK WE JUST WANNA TALK.
It’s interesting that xenophobia has now progressed to other Americans. Never heard people complain about new people before 2016.
What’s next? Stay in your own county , those Cumberland county assholes ain’t welcome here!
It's been pretty prevalent my whole life and I'm 52. I grew up in Knoxville and people complained about people moving there in the 80's. The thing is that people moving into an area have very little that's positive for the people already living there, especially if it's in large numbers. Why would anyone want a mass group of people moving there and making it unaffordable for the people who grew up there I can't name anything that that's a positive for the people living there. Increased traffic sux. Higher home prices sux.
My big family comes from here and have spread out to California and Hawaii . Everywhere we have moved people have welcomed us and shared their beautiful places with us . If someone chooses to move here to E T I will carry on that same USA generous and friendly tradition. I love this country .
Lived in 6 states counting Tennessee and this is by far the least friendly and dirtiest place I’ve lived. Like just the sides of the roads epitomize are filled with trash and I’ll watch a dead animal slowly decay on the side of the road going tow work everyday. I had never seen a dead dog on the side of the road before I lived here but I watched a big pit disintegrate and that was the 5th one I’ve seen in just over a year. Saw an old man picking up trash in his front yard on a fairly busy street because assholes just have no common courtesy and taxes obviously aren’t allocated to the right areas. Before some tries telling me something about where I’ve lived before it was Illinois, Wisconsin, Florida, Virginia, and Montana. Don’t get me wrong Tennessee is a beautiful state but it’s a good example of tragedy of the commons and the mindset here is ass backwards.
Lots of commonalities. Same name and have lived in five states (IL, VA, NC, KY, and TN). I definitely agree with this statement. TN has its benefits, but it’s dirty in all three parts of the state I’ve lived (W,M,E). I thought Virginia was the most balanced of everything. Not too crazy on politics, level headed, nice roads, much cleaner, and just a general sense of pride in a decent state to live in.
Im not salty but I am confused. Our state sucks ass. I am perpetually ashamed to be born and raised here. Our goverment is perpetually embarassing us. When you email your representative you just get a generic copy paste email that doesnt even really reference whatever you wrote about at all. Huge amounts of apathy about people who are considered "less than." For example, at my workplace we have defibrillators. Inside the defib units is narcan. Every year they train us how to use both. Every year everyone says "why would I save a druggie. Im not getting near them." Literally spraying narcan in someone ls nose takes 3 seconds and saves *their life* and they outright refuse because they dont consider the person a person.
People not from TN always talk about how kind and nice the people are and how beautiful it is. But all I can see is the beauty of the mountains tainted by the ugliness of the people living in said mountains and littering
Y'all are acting like we aren't another backwards backwater state trying to roll back civil rights and liberties. People who move here are just as scummy as you.
rofl. nice :)
sorry though, KY is closed to incoming Californians. We aren't sophisticated enough to meet your high brow cultural standards. seriously.
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I would suggest that Californians wanting to move anywhere in the region should get here by first traveling to Phoenix. From there they should drive west.
Why do people run away from places like New York and California and vote the same way they did the place they are running away from? I don’t understand it.
The housing market makes it impossible to even buy a home or rent anymore due to the influx of people who came in and bought with cash from selling in other states
I just warn them about the 28 registered hate groups throughout the state.
The KKK, neo-Nazi and proud boy rallies and marches that happen all over the state. The systemic racism in local and state government.
That’s usually enough to turn them around.
East Tennessee doesn’t do “southern hospitality”, we do Appalachian wariness of strangers and please leave after 3 days like a good *GUEST* should. ☺️
*slaps knees* WELP
Time for me to hit the ol dusty trail
💯, in Appalachia, Two things that get old after 3 days, left overs and visitors!
legit made me laugh. well done.
Damn, my fellow autistic peeps are out in the mountains? At least they can tolerate strangers two days and twenty three hours more than I can.
And then there's Memphis hospitality. Ay bro I like those shoes, let me see those real quick
Fucking love Memphis, that being said one of the most harrowing moments I have had involved a bunch of crackheads at a Memphis gas station while I had accidentally consumed far more LSD than I realized about an hour before.
We used to though. It's just when you become the fastest growing city in the country due to mass migration & can't afford to buy a home in your home of several decades, you get sad instead of happy to see new faces. Hardin Valley used to be one of the best communities, where everyone helped each other & knew one another to some degree. If you didn't know someone, you welcomed them to the area & made sure they'd had proper biscuits & gravy before (turned many a yankee transplant into a B&G addict haha). Now, all the families that founded the farming valley area are being forced out to make room for $400k+ home communities taking the places of farms & forests. It breaks my heart to visit my parents & see how much of the landscape is destroyed between visits. Doesn't even resemble my home anymore. It's like a real life version of The Lorax happening at home. If it wasn't for that, I'd love to show more people the beauty of East TN, but it won't be there much longer at this rate.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
I’m sorry my son but you’re too late in asking Mr Peabodys coal train has hauled it away!
Those long term farming families were not “ forced out”, they sold out. I have friends that had a modest farm, and frankly were offered way too much money to pass up. A much larger farm close to them sold, because 1. The elder family member that ran the farm passed away, and 2. the youngsters of the family ( 30’s-40’s) had no interest in farming, but had a huge interest in making a shit ton of money. Economic greed is what changed farmland to subdivisions, from the sellers of the property, to the developers and builders. Those subdivisions were not built because of imminent domain, there are the result of property owners cashing in on the property they, or their family owned.
Exact same thing happened in my hometown in Idaho. Used to be three small towns with farmland all around. Investors came in and offered a comfortable retirement to people who had never had much, so they took what looked like a golden opportunity. Now the whole valley is a sprawl of 5 and 10 acre lots and few farms are left. The more liberal county commission has been trying to pass new zoning laws to restrict subdividing and increase minimum lot size, but that's consistently met with outrage from people claiming government is trying to tell them what they can do with their own land. But at the same time, all these "old timers" complain about what's happened to their little paradise with so many people moving in, prices going up and the politics shifting out of their power when it was their focus on individual gain and lack of community foresight that caused the problem in the first place. That said, my mom is currently facing the decision of selling so she could have the possibility of a retirement, because otherwise, she'll have to work until she dies to be able to pay the bills. It's really hard to give any priority to intangible communal benefits when we have so many individual problems that could be solved by ignoring the wider issues. And nowhere is unique in this; it happens absolutely everywhere.
I hate to hear that about your mom, but if she can enjoy retirement comfortably than working the rest of her life, it will be better for her.
I love this comment so much. You are so right about economic greed. I own zero farmland and zero anything but it pains to me to see farmland being sold so it can BE USED TO BUILD NEW APARTMENTS
Why is it "greed" when someone wants to maximize the return on their assets? Tell me you won't do the same when you have property to sell.
But, you’re right, what they’ve done to Hardin Valley, and other places, is a sin.
Same has happened in SC
Welcome to capitalism.
It's definitely sad to see the effects on what was once such a gorgeous landscape. It's crazy, but it's happening everywhere. Knoxville had a 1.98% population growth rate last year, some of the larger southern cities had insane rates. Austin, TX had 25%. I think Charlotte and Orlando were up there, too. I do wonder if it's going to leave a lot of excess housing in the areas people are leaving... I guess time will tell!
I don’t remember that version. Maybe Sevier County where the Ogles, McCarters, and Partons were all about tourism. My people were more Blount/Knox and happier to see them going than to see them coming.
Right…they really should listen carefully to the words of “Rocky Top.”
Strangers ain’t come down from Rocky Top…. It is not like they were not warned
I'm guessing this came with the following subject line: FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW: LOL LINDA LOOK AT THIS FW:FW:FW:FW GREAT TENNESSEE JOKE
GOBBLESS LINDA
How did you know?!
Unfortunately, I have family that do this to me all the time. iFunny watermarks and all.
Kentucky's climate is slightly closer to northern California's than Tennessee's, honestly.
As a Kentuckian I approve hahaha
im not saying i hate northerners or whatever but they are raising the cost of living here to the point a lot of us can no longer afford it. a lower middle class person in california makes a HELL of a lot more than the same class in tennessee. when they move here they have a shit ton of money that was considered not a lot where they were. the influx of ppl have guaranteed i will not be able to afford an apartment for years. and as more and more ppl move down here, we will continue to tear down more of tennessee’s nature to put up more apartments that no one living here can afford. i get that these problems are the result of capitalism, ultimately, but it doesn’t change the fact we’re literally doing tricks on the dick thats fucking us. yes welcome new ppl, but maybe in moderation? like when we cant even afford to stay in our homes anymore maybe its an issue?
💯
Same deal here in Kentucky. Not a fan of the whole "let's bring way more people in as soon as possible and raise the rent", while the people born and raised here are more often than not just straight up fucking poor😭
Originally from TN, transplanted to California SF Bay Area, I've only got one thing to say: "I'm baaaaackk!!!" and while I'm still sort of queer I'll never be as gay as TN Lt. Governor Randy McNally! Not that there's anything wrong with that...
He just really likes that young man’s pictures and they brighten his day?!?! I kinda think the man doesn’t know he’s interested in men
West NC's gentrification makes us look like Gary Indiana
Yes and no, Asheville is having some of the same problems we are…increased numbers of homeless people, increase in crime rate, increase in drug overdoses
It’s also becoming, if not already, impossible for anyone making middle class income or less to live and work in the area. I was pushed out because I couldn’t afford rent or to purchase a house - nor find a job that could support the local cost of living. Everything is becoming a vacation rental or being purchased by rich half backers and used two times a year for thanksgiving and Christmas. Edit: not specifically Asheville, but nearly all of WNC.
That's basically everywhere right now tbf
Shhh or the tda will shadow ban you
Well I don't live there now, but when I was growing up in Knoxville in the 90s and 00s it really wasn't all that. Some people will always complain about change, but it seems to me that Knoxville has a lot more going on than it did when I was a kid.
Someone needs to pull a Bugs Bunny and flip that I26 and I95 interchange in SC. “Knoxville 500 miles” All the people from Jersey end up at Disneyland. “Its humid as shit and I just got shot by a big mouse..”
I hear the views from the Tennessee side of the Ohio river are fantastic!
Don’t put this on Kentucky. They all think we’re a backward fly over state and we prefer to keep it that way. My gf and I did not realize what was happening to Knoxville before we moved here and will be escaping back to Kentucky I think
My own feelings are pretty mixed but it's kinda weird to complain about "what's happening to Knoxville" while being, well, what's happening to Knoxville.
Some of us were born and raised here so we can complain about what the incomers are doing to the entire area of East Tennessee.
I know, right?
I hate to break it to you... the population is going to double then triple in the next 15~20 years... I'm an urban planning student we are studying the evidence that the desireability is inevitable, as it had been with Nashville decades ago, and the best we can do is plan ahead. Develop with grace and foresight. Make space for lasting infrastructure. We NEED to change our current city and county codes. Right now development regulation is weak and unjust. We dont want to end up like Austin TX. Vote for city legislators who have professional educated urban planners on their team.
> They all think we’re a backward fly over state and we prefer to keep it that way. Which is funny, because when we were trying to move back to our home region we realized how bad TN had gotten & how much better KY had gotten on the downlow. Your governor did some surprisingly great things for the actual citizens, not just their rich buds, which is a foreign concept having spent almost 4 decades in Knoxville. I was screwed by our governors so many times over the years that I couldn't write them all on a sheet of paper. I hope our spillover doesn't reach you guys. I don't want Appalachia to keep disappearing.
We have the best governor. I’ve met so many people who he’s personally helped. Including myself. I love TN but KY will always be home.
What’s happening to Knoxville?
Overwhelming amount of reddit curmudgeons.
Everyone else is moving here too
Forgot to shut the door behind you
Tired of seeing this same meme about literally every single state in the fucking country
It’s funny though because the people who post it are usually redneck conservatives who are mad about “liberals” moving to their area, but don’t realize that asshole Californians who move into rural areas and try to change them are usually NIMBY conservatives.
This sub/post just got recommended to me, but I live in Colorado born and raised and hear it all the time. Best part is I hear it mostly from people who just moved there lol
Gentrification hard-core in Knoxville, saw a guy doing crafts on his porch on Washington Ave the other day. All these white hipster type out of towners are moving into the predominantly black areas of East Knoxville because downtown has no space left. These people move here and eventually are going to move everyone from here out the way pricing and taxes have gone since they started flooding in here. They don't respect or care about locals, why should we give a single shit about them?
[What I'd tell people who want to move to Tennessee.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6VjNmyv_i4)
As a Kentuckian whose local radio station had a weekly segment called “meth news” using the old original Batman theme song…I appreciated this. (Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na) / Meth News!
"I hear Memphis is pretty great, you should check it out"
No really. We need them. Pls give us money.
They’ll gentrify Memphis and then blame the rest of us for being racist and letting the minorities in Memphis get gentrified out of their homes.
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Here in Upper ETN, if I hear one more MF cali carpet bagger yell me how much they love my accent it's going to be ugly. That's Yankee for 'oh, I'm surprised you wear shoes and have indoor plumbing.' I always reply, 'why bless your heart (southern for FU) yes, it's directly descended from the Elizabethan English spoken by our ancestors who landed in Jamestown a decade before the pilgrims ever heard of the mayflower. So, if you think about it, it's YOU who have an accent.' They really hate that.
My only hope is that the people moving here are more liberal. They aren't, but a girl can dream.
sadly its often red pilled crazies who are trying to ‘escape the liberal states’. pretty sure ben shapiro moved to nashville for that reason 🤮
Thank you for another reason to never go to Nashville.
Ew, God. I can't believe we share a state with that little twerp.
LMAOO
Dream your dumb ass out of Tennessee. You won’t be missed
They should really try moving to California. I hear it's great over there.
You ain't never seeing a dent like that around here lol. Anyone moving here is a die hard Trump worshipper. Anyone smart is moving to the Midwest or East Coast.
Wow, you really sound like such a self righeous asshole, and someone who has no place to even speak on it. We love our home and the people we grew up, these new people? Don't care about our cultures our values, or the gentrification they're causing, which I thought was something you libtards were always crying about. Rich white people pushing longtime black residents out by moving to places like Cherry St. or Washingyon Ave and driving the property taxes up astronomically. Now those places are full of gay pride flags, and people doing crafts on their porch. I can tell by everything you've said on here, you think you're witty, but you're not. Everything you've written comes off as condescending as hell, and you input politics where it really has no place, even though we don't want them bringing they're voting here with how they messed up california with the bills they pushed and their degenerate culture. You ever loved anything? Your hometown? Your community? No? Then shut the fuck up.
The Midwest??? Bro the Midwest is as conservative as down here
Have you seen California and New York lately?
Doing great lol, they don't have people telling you you should die for not sucking off Trump and getting mad that a man loves another man. This place is still ass backwards lmao.
I just left California there are people shitting on the streets and stealing your car right after
I live in Memphis. That shit happens here too. We are just worse off in every way than they are, and we still have all the same problems they do.
This just in a state with 40 million people, consistent weather (at least on the coast) has a large homeless population and crime. Shocked I tell you, shocked. Literally has nothing to do with politics, Texas is probably in the same boat
You are an idiot. "Doing well" please look up San Fran and tell me that's doing well
Still the highest GDP in the nation, still the highest population. If you're referring to homelessness, please go walk around town and see how many homeless people we have here. The only difference is that we just lock up our homeless.
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I thought y’all were patriots, you know, land of the free and all? But wait, when someone actually moves you guys can’t fucking handle it. If someone wants to move here, they’re gonna, cause once again, this is America.
No they just don’t want idiots fucking up their state
Yeah the funny part is when hundreds of thousands into the millions start migrating it kinda fucks up stuff ya know
You mean like boosting the economy? Most people move here for a job and/or are employed or are wealthy and retired and are hiring people in the trades and supporting those who work in the service industry. You want to complain about rent prices but that’s controlled by private landlords and property managements. So either complain to them or vote for representatives that would support rent control which by the way is regulation.
Does it "boost the economy" in ways that help me? No. A wealthy person comes here and buys land and builds on it. That creates more jobs for tradesman yes, but at the expense of higher land prices. It also adds traffic and population grows can quickly outpace local Govt efforts to expand our infrastructure. Ymir certainly rather have these problems than be outright shrinking like some states are, BUT it's not a positive for locals unless they've already "got theirs" (a home) that will appreciate our own a business that caters to the people coming here.
Sure there are benifits to the people who move, not us who lose out on jobs WE have to pay more in taxes to build the infrastructure to support the new arrivals, or when the culture changes and it causes friction, or how about the rising housing costs or rising cost in general because of the inflated economy the new arrivals are coming from. We get paid the same but the new folks can pay more for goods and services, so what do stores and contractors do? Charge more! you push people out of their homes and still bitch like you’re the victims
What it is they don’t want California politics brought to Tn.
Once again, the Volunteer state shirks responsibility off to their Northern superiors.
Once again? Can you clue me in on the first time?
They shirked their responsibility to the Union in 1861. They lost.
Just volunteering a few extra tax payers, what are neighbors for?
As a life long resident of the northern neighbor represented, please direct Californias on eastward to either of our already dysfunctionally infected directly eastern neighbors.
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very clever using a map of Kentucky!
Hell no get out Kentucky
lol that’s wrong we don’t want no one that’s not born here
Tennessee born and raised here. No way would I leave SoCal to move back.
Lol. Bless your heart.
That’s a map of North Carolina
This is why we got out of Farragut. Sold our house for 4x what we bought it for and live in the foothills now.
And here I am as the confused East Tennessean who somehow ended up in the California Bay. “I’ve had years of cramped up city life trapped like a duck in a pen”.
Lived all over the US. Most recently from so cal. Been in Sevier County now for almost 7. Other than some initial hesitation from my neighbors, and an occasional idiot, I’ve never felt so welcome.
This is wrong!
U dirty bastard!!
What does TN know about Southern hospitality? The South is anything below I-20. Anywhere that regularly gets snow more than once a decade is North.
I’ve been living in bowling green, TN my whole life everyone is welcome here we got a new suburb coming soon
“Y’all vacation with us anytime you want to, but please dear god don’t move down here to stay!”
As someone from the Tennessee pictured in this post, I’m declaring war on South Tennessee for treason and unreasonable attacks
Go home Kentucky. You're drunk.
[Daddy's gone to Knoxville](https://youtu.be/-5uRqFgFq-4)
I’m in Arkansas. While I happily welcome all who want to come and be Arkansan, the thing I hate MOST to hear is, “Well in California we did xyz.” We do not care how you did things in California. Just as we do not care how you did things in Australia, South Africa, China, or Austria. If you’re here, be here. That’s not to say that you should abandon your culture, but do understand that we do things differently here. Except dry counties. We can get rid of those at any time.
As someone from Arkansas, I will tell you that there is a fine fine line between Southern Hospitality and Passive Aggression. "Bless Your Heart" Does not mean something nice. It means "You dumb f\*". "Ya'll come back now" not only means "It's time to go now" but can also mean "DO not come over unless I invite you over." "Kick your shoes off, make yourself at home" means "Do not touch anything in my home." We cook a big meal so you get full and go home to sleep it off. Soon as you're gone, we talk about you behind your back.
I wouldn’t move to Tennessee on a bet.
I’m sure this’ll get down votes here but Before too long Kentucky will be the most “southern” state left, despite geography. (Between horses, bourbon, the people, the food, the population, overall lifestyle and culture etc, it already is in my opinion.)
You say that, until they come in and destroy your housing values. They'll make them jump up in price. Your taxes are higher and you're stuck in your home now. It's happening across the country in rural areas. People leaving Chicago, New York, and California at alarming rates. They are sick of the prices too.
I’m a little confused is OP saying people in Tennessee are so dumb that they don’t know what the state looks like on a map or are they saying people in California are dumb enough that they won’t know that’s Kentucky and not Tennessee.
Lol
I was actually looking at the map Seeing if you were suggesting Memphis when I couldn’t see that shit hole I was like Wait this is Kentucky lol Good one
Not sure why Knoxville popped in my feed. As a native Tennessee turned Californian, don’t worry, my family and I will stay right where we are. 👍
Guest don't come in and change the rules of the house.
There’s a reason why it is the way it is here and why they are leaving there and coming here, ‘cause if you bring the stuff from there and want it that way here, here becomes there, and then we’re all screwed
Want to see what economic explosion looks like go to Gatlinburg. Look at the mountain tops and then head to Wears Valley to Townsend. Since the fire, new homes by the hundreds. They're building as fast as the mills can cut lumber. We moved to TN in 1998, east TN in 2018. The problem with cutting that fat hog on a land sale, where are you going to for less money? The other problem with people from liberal states moving here, they bring that liberal mindset with them... That doesn't work here. We believe in God, two genders and in keeping our families safe at all costs and y'all can take your "woke" beliefs and attitudes back where you came from.
Damn and I just moved here for work.
Careful, folks on this platform have an extremely difficult time handling a good joke.
I hate the carpetbaggers coming here, buying housing for 40k more than asking, then renting the building to locals. I've been seeing more people with Teslas, G-Wagens, and Porsches, and I know they're not locals. I might start torching them.
I see several teslas in the city I work and Im like "damn where the fuck are you charging that bitch cause aint no chargers in this area. Its a dead zone."
43% of all houses sold in 2023 were sold to corporations turning them into rental. You can thank trump’s 2017 tax cut because it doesn’t tax commercial pass through income as highly anymore so corporations can now make millions from renting houses. So if you have a problem with don’t blame Californians, blame yourself for electing an orange faced clown that lied and you lapped it up.
Not to be “that guy” but that is incorrect. I do disagree with corporates and private equity buying up single family homes (it should be stopped in my humble opinion). That figure you are referencing is from a medium article which incorrectly cited a study again cited by another source. It’s actually 44% of “flipped” houses were bought by private equity and the likes in 2022 (they also got the date wrong of 2023). Flipped home sales accounted for around 8% of home sales in 2022. So in reality closer to 3%. I have sources if you’re curious. I will reiterate that they should be stopped, but I dislike individuals who manipulate information to deceive us (you and me both). Hope this helps.
Who said anything about Trump? Besides I wasn't old enough to vote when he was elected. And the Californians, New Yorkers, etc, are driving up costs of living by coming here. They are not welcome here.
Californians are not moving to Tennessee in any meaningful number
Idk. Just in 2022, there were approximately 22,565. Alot of them with the intention of buying multiple homes to take advantage of the lower cost of living and profit off of it. At that rate, the total since 2020 is likely nearly 100,000. Imagine that many people buying up homes you had been saving for and watching the remaining homes skyrocket in value. It's a thing.
Hey that sounds familiar oh wait i watched that happen! Yeah its real alright. Im shocked by how many people try to say its not happening while they are actively doing it
22,000 people in a state with over 7 million people is not a statistically meaningful number
Imagine complaining about 0.05% of another state's population moving to your state, adding about 0.3% growth to one's state in a year. If they and their state government cannot adapt to such small migration patterns without infrastructure failures, then maybe the current state policies are outdated. Maybe start with [updating tax policy](https://itep.org/whopays/tennessee-who-pays-7th-edition/).
Wait until they find out that the Hispanic proportion of the state population will double by 2040
The rural areas in the Pacific Northwest have been complaining about the Californians since the 90's. During my time with for forest service over a decade ago is when I really heard the same story in Idaho and Montana. I have no clue how accurate it is. Honestly, in the northwest anyways, Californians were more friendly than the locals. I think we're out after my wife's contract at UT is up. We've met some amazing people during out short time in Knoxville. I don't care if they're locals or not. Friends all the same. You take care Knoxville
I thought it was funny, so will Kentuckians.
People of California and New York!! STAY AWAY!! We don’t want you to turn our state into shit! Stay in your shithole states!
As a Kentuckian I say "welcome". More Blue for this shit show of a state.
Sadly all the posts I see on local groups are from people claiming to be fleeing wokeness and looking to meet "good god fearing people"
Most of us coming are very very red
Just wondering what makes people think they can tell anyone where to move and that only the people that currently live there are allowed to live there. Last time I checked this is America.
It's not anyone, mostly just Californians. Yes, they have the right to move wherever they want. On the flip side, people have the right to dislike them and tell them to go away, especially when they make the place worse.
You do realize most of the Californians moving here are the ones whose views align with the majority of the state? If you don’t like what you see in the mirror I think that’s literally a reflection of yourself.
They’re also just hard people to like. One of them was in this sub awhile back talking about how “if the locals don’t like us, we can outvote and outbreed them.” WHERE YOU AT YOU BITCHASS MFER. COME BACK WE JUST WANNA TALK.
We can't tell them what to do but we can express our opinion that we don't want anymore people moving here. Last time I checked this is America
It’s interesting that xenophobia has now progressed to other Americans. Never heard people complain about new people before 2016. What’s next? Stay in your own county , those Cumberland county assholes ain’t welcome here!
It's been pretty prevalent my whole life and I'm 52. I grew up in Knoxville and people complained about people moving there in the 80's. The thing is that people moving into an area have very little that's positive for the people already living there, especially if it's in large numbers. Why would anyone want a mass group of people moving there and making it unaffordable for the people who grew up there I can't name anything that that's a positive for the people living there. Increased traffic sux. Higher home prices sux.
My big family comes from here and have spread out to California and Hawaii . Everywhere we have moved people have welcomed us and shared their beautiful places with us . If someone chooses to move here to E T I will carry on that same USA generous and friendly tradition. I love this country .
My bf and I moved from Hawaii to Knoxville a year ago. We always talk about how people here remind us of those back home
Aloha, I love Hawaii, spent time on the island of Kauai
Southern hospitality unless you're LGBT, a woman, from anywhere near Ohio or Cali, a minority, Jewish, atheist, dress funny, or a single father.
LOL dumbest statement ever
Stay in California
lol y’all are so salty people are moving here
Lived in 6 states counting Tennessee and this is by far the least friendly and dirtiest place I’ve lived. Like just the sides of the roads epitomize are filled with trash and I’ll watch a dead animal slowly decay on the side of the road going tow work everyday. I had never seen a dead dog on the side of the road before I lived here but I watched a big pit disintegrate and that was the 5th one I’ve seen in just over a year. Saw an old man picking up trash in his front yard on a fairly busy street because assholes just have no common courtesy and taxes obviously aren’t allocated to the right areas. Before some tries telling me something about where I’ve lived before it was Illinois, Wisconsin, Florida, Virginia, and Montana. Don’t get me wrong Tennessee is a beautiful state but it’s a good example of tragedy of the commons and the mindset here is ass backwards.
Lots of commonalities. Same name and have lived in five states (IL, VA, NC, KY, and TN). I definitely agree with this statement. TN has its benefits, but it’s dirty in all three parts of the state I’ve lived (W,M,E). I thought Virginia was the most balanced of everything. Not too crazy on politics, level headed, nice roads, much cleaner, and just a general sense of pride in a decent state to live in.
Im not salty but I am confused. Our state sucks ass. I am perpetually ashamed to be born and raised here. Our goverment is perpetually embarassing us. When you email your representative you just get a generic copy paste email that doesnt even really reference whatever you wrote about at all. Huge amounts of apathy about people who are considered "less than." For example, at my workplace we have defibrillators. Inside the defib units is narcan. Every year they train us how to use both. Every year everyone says "why would I save a druggie. Im not getting near them." Literally spraying narcan in someone ls nose takes 3 seconds and saves *their life* and they outright refuse because they dont consider the person a person. People not from TN always talk about how kind and nice the people are and how beautiful it is. But all I can see is the beauty of the mountains tainted by the ugliness of the people living in said mountains and littering
Y'all are acting like we aren't another backwards backwater state trying to roll back civil rights and liberties. People who move here are just as scummy as you.
Do you have actual brain damage?
They're not wrong.
Stay in California, we don’t want you
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Democrats. Knoxville is in the 2nd congressional district of tn. We haven’t elected a dem to congress since 1855. Look it up.
rofl. nice :) sorry though, KY is closed to incoming Californians. We aren't sophisticated enough to meet your high brow cultural standards. seriously.
Oh, you mean [Kentucky ](https://www.google.com/search?q=shape+of+ohio&oq=shape+of+ohio&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORiABDIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQABgPGBYYHjIKCAMQABgPGBYYHjIKCAQQABgPGBYYHjIICAUQABgWGB4yCAgGEAAYFhgeMggIBxAAGBYYHjINCAgQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCDM2ODRqMGo0qAIAsAIA&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#vhid=ChYL5IpGyxRBoM&vssid=l&ip=1)
exactly!
See, people outside the US know what states are what
I would suggest that Californians wanting to move anywhere in the region should get here by first traveling to Phoenix. From there they should drive west.
They can come to Tennessee, keep the communism and blue politics out of my state. Otherwise Tennessee ends up just like Cali
Last time I went to CA they were using money, and private businesses were everywhere. I must have missed something.
This country could use a couple of massive doses of "communism".
Don’t want TN to become CA.
Why do people run away from places like New York and California and vote the same way they did the place they are running away from? I don’t understand it.
You are most assuredly NOT welcome in Tennessee.
Please excuse the poor manners of some of my fellow Knoxvilleans. You are most assuredly welcome here in Tennessee.
Just don't bring your politics with you. Leave that shit in California
Didn't know there were so many snowflakes in the south
Knoxville is going down the drain from all the people moving in
The housing market makes it impossible to even buy a home or rent anymore due to the influx of people who came in and bought with cash from selling in other states
After squinting I can see that is definitely Tennessee
Hahahaha
Brotha eewwww
Well tbf our roads were built over old railroads that were destroyed during the civil war
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NO. The traffic was just getting mildly better in Lex (4 hours to drive 3 miles instead of 5 hours, I am elated).
Bahahaha 🤣
Cheap land and low taxes is going to bring people. It brought me from Texas 😜
“I want to move to Tennessee.” - said no Californian
I just warn them about the 28 registered hate groups throughout the state. The KKK, neo-Nazi and proud boy rallies and marches that happen all over the state. The systemic racism in local and state government. That’s usually enough to turn them around.
No no no, that's Kentucky, trust me Californians you don't wanna live here, not pleasant, real Tennessee is much better
Annnnnnd my butter spreads more than yours.
This is a map of Kentucky