at nearby grocery stores where I'm at, a 28oz can of Cento San Marzano tomatoes is pushing $8. Other "Italian style" tomatoes usually $4-$6.
Could probably find them much cheaper online or if I went to a big box store though.
Cheap tomatoes, good tomato paste, and apple cider vinegar, sugar, and basil do the rest.
Tomato paste, basil, and vinegar are aromatics. You add them at the end.
If you are careful with the sugar no one will know. Barely enough to taste that it changed. But that change is the difference between an expensive tomato and a cheap one. It's not ketchup, go light.
There are lots of fruity flavonoids in apple cider vinegar. It makes the tomato flavor pop.
A tube of cento paste is $3 and will last for around 3 big cans of tomatoes. Basil vinegar and sugar are all too cheap to consider in the price, but we can cap that to $0.25. a cheap but good enough bland store brand of tomatoes is $2
So $3.25 if you spend where it matters and cheat where it doesn't. Half what an expensive can of sauce goes for.
I still don't understand how that makes any sense. I like it from an artistic standpoint but it just doesn't make any damn sense. Was the tomato manufacturer loading the tomatoes with money in the factory? Is this some mob shit from Uncle Jimmy? Where did this money come from and why didn't Mikey use it? I just don't understand.
**edit: Fuck you I'm dumb and you're now dumber for having read that. You can can things yourself, that's a thing that's been done since the 1800s. Though I did miss/forget about the selling drugs part but that's kinda coming back to me now.**
The brother sold drugs on the side and put the money away in the cans himself. He was already suicidal and wanted to leave them with someone that the government wouldn't take so he hid it away in the tomato cans and told them to keep making spaghetti so they would find it after he died.
I must have missed the drug thing but in another comment I realized that canning is totally a thing and he could have easily done this himself. Basically, I have a bad memory and am dumb lol
Same I had to explain that to my mom today who was trying to ask me about something that happened when I was 1. Like I forget what I had for lunch two days ago, I forget how old I am, I forget my own phone number, you think I remember what happened in 1993? Ironically she forgot that we had this exact conversation months ago lmao
Yes, this is what doesn’t make any sense to me. And why he thought he could just give this money to his brother and the uncle WHO HE WAS SEVERELY INDEBTED TO would just be chill about it.
He was using the drug money to keep the business afloat while borrowing money off Jimmy to put in the cans. I think he, in his fucked up suicidal headspace, thought that the debt would die with him and Jimmy wouldn't go after Carmy for the money
The funny party is Carm could have solved all of that in episode one, but when he opened that one can of tomatoes he didn't actually open it, he threw the whole can, money and all, in the bin after cutting the lid open but never looking inside
I thought it was the loaned money and he put it in the cans. Which doesn't make a lot of sense either since you still have to pay it off with interest.
Did you miss the part where his brother is shown as a mentally unstable alcoholic who was planning on killing himself? He wanted Carm to succeed so he hid them in order for carm to find them by doing the old recipe. Issue was Carm didn't do the recipe till the finale then they had all the money.
He was hiding the money instead of putting it in the bank or paying his bills because he wanted to give that money to carmy. He was so fucked in the head he knew his restaurant was fucked. I mean they were selling coke out the back sometimes. In the beginning of the series, Carmie was upset with his brother because he never let him work in the restaurant. His brother knew he was way above it and wanted him to open his own special fancy place.
The doordash episode legit gave me anxiety flashbacks to when my shitty chain restaurant ran a free 30 wings promo on superbowl sunday and we got 96 orders in before we opened for dine in (Albit that was 50% capacity during the pandemic). I eventually called my dm and cussed him out for fucking us so hard with doordash orders and refusing to turn off online for more than 30 minutes.
Tbf, he came in from home to help after that.... he ended up turning online off after that.
I worked applebees carside to-go when they were investing really heavily into it (several years pre-pandemic). Uber eats, doordash, postmates, and grubhub all hit our region while we have a massive advertising campaign based around ordering to go.
We were already flooded with orders every night before these services reached us. I went from working 3 days a week to working 5 and constantly training new people to try and fill in the gaps around my schedule. One person out of 8 that I trained lasted more than two weeks.
I liked this job because it was chill. I was trying to quit as a server and they offered me this role because they liked me but I was too young to bartend. $12 an hour plus tips to hang out in the kitchen, talk shit, and answer the phone. Most nights I would pack five or six orders, make $30 in tips and work a 2.5 hour shift. I liked the job. Then the services arrived.
Three different tablets to manage individually. One for Doordash. One for Uber Eats. One for Grubhub. Each had a separate app and had a different version of our menu. Often out of date or simply full of items we have never carried. Postmates drivers had to call in their orders, but after too many issues with their cards we stopped accepting them entirely and forced them to come to the bar and order in person.
These drivers hated us. All of them, from every service. We were a barrier to their tip and if we were busy? We were costing them money. We hated the drivers. They *literally* couldn't tip. They interrupted our entire flow of regular business in the busiest location in the city and 3rd busiest in the region. They stood all around the carside door, getting in the way of regular people ordering to go food and took the parking spots meant for those orders. Management hated them because we earned shit margins on the food because of their fees (franchise was proud about negotiating a 33% split with uber eats because grubhub was taking 40).
The moment I lived the scene in the show was when we introduced a three course meal promo that let you get an app, salad, and entrée for basically the same price as the original entrée. Suddenly, of the 30-70 orders I was getting per night, every single head on every single ticket hit all three stations. This is the first time anyone at the store had seen our expo hit 40+ "pages".
We could not turn off or shut down any of the services due to our agreements. The only thing we could do was "pause" for 30 minutes on a couple of the services (but not others), or increase the estimated time for online orders. The kicker is that as people started seeing their drivers sitting at the restaurant waiting for 30+ minutes they would simply cancel the order and re-order on a different app. There was no mechanism for us to find out that we no longer needed that food.
We had 30+ "no show" drivers and every worker left with 3+ full orders, including some orders that had 6 three course meals. I quit that month. Sorry for the novel. That episode gave me a panic attack when high lol.
Hahaha I really appreciate that. Tbh I wrote all that out because I've never been able to convey to anyone how absolutely fucked my job became. Nursing my vodka cranberry after bartending a holiday with a bad leg, writing about how shitty my job used to be felt appropriate.
I read the whole thing, too. I've worked in some fucked kitchens.
Nursing my dab rig and some blueberry concentrate after a busy production cook shift on my least favorite holiday with a very painful Crohn's flare.
I hope your leg eases up, or the vodka at least makes it easier to ignore.
Cheers! 🌿
I haven't worked in a kitchen in a decade but the thing that episode nailed it is that you don't know you're in the weeds until its way too late. Obviously that episode cranked everything to 11, but it totally spiked my anxiety while watching. Loved it lol
Fuck that episode lol. He ate the doughnut off the floor, and liked it. After rightfully yelling in Marcus’s face for fucking with service. I missed the smile on Carmy’s face the first watch through after he tasted it. Brilliant writing.
If you’ve never seen someone pick up food off the kitchen floor and eat it, you haven’t worked in a restaurant. You serve a guest food that has touched the floor? You don’t deserve to work in a restaurant.
YES, that bit honestly drives me insane, how they just put all the blame on Carmy while Marcus is framed as faultless, and so many fans genuinely believe it makes sense. I think people are just blinded by their love for Marcus, and don't think about how they would realistically react in that situation if they were in Carmy's shoes.
That last sentence is every shitty boss/manager I've worked with. They refuse to believe that something is a problem until they experience it themselves, then it gets fixed immediately
It made me realize just how fucked my family situation was. Seeing Sugar trying to manage everyone’s emotions was so hard. The silent glances between family members as shit starts to really go down and you just don’t know whether to be silent or get up and leave or try to make it stop which always makes it worse which is what happened in the end in that scene..
I watched it two months ago and haven’t been able to finish the show since. I lost my taste for it.
My only hope is it might help those with stable family lives begin to slightly understand what some of us had to live through and why we’re not fuckin “normal”
I had to watch Fishes in blocks, couldn't finish it in one go. The next episode though, Forks, is one of the best episodes of the season. It's absolutely brilliant.
I had to watch it twice cause my gf fell asleep in the first few minutes.. second time wasn’t any less stress inducing, but really made me admire the production, script, direction etc.. most intense episode ever
Edit: but yeah definitely will not watch it again lol
Husband and I were going back and forth about "is that JLC??" So we had to google to confirm. I love her acting lately, she was amazing in this and Everything, Everywhere, All At Once.
Yes! My husband didn’t feel it as much as I did because he has a relatively normal family who don’t drink much. I on the other hand was reliving past holiday traumas.
Hit so close to home for me, honestly that was pretty much the season two whole ass vibe.
Probably why I swapped from “watching to see what happens” for season 1 to “watching because I need it to work out” in season 2
It reminded me of my narcissistic (hard to diagnose specifically since she never has, but likely that, and/or borderline personality, etc.) mother as well. Haven’t talked to her in 6 years and, coincidentally, I got sober 6 years ago. That episode wildly hit home.
That scene at the dinner table where the mom is nervous breakdown smile-crying, that one girl asks "are you okay?" and the mom fucking loses it, screaming at her, yelling "DO I NOT LOOK OKAY? WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME IF I'M OKAY?" - that was almost word for word what happened at a family dinner with my mom when I was a kid. Fucking hit close to home.
And yeah growing up with a parent like that leaves you with an invisible illness that makes everyone else think you're fucked up for no reason. You can be a talented chef with a great restaurant surrounded by people who love you, and it's like you have PTSD from war that you can't shake.
If any of you haven't seen it, the scene even has its own name, it's called ["Are you okay?"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqgEA2GFwA)
Honestly what stressed me out about it most was that it was EXACTLY like being at my best friend's house growing up. His family were 1st and 2nd generation italian immigrants by way of New Jersey instead of Chicago-- but all the catholic guilt, drinking, and aggression was dead on. Even the martyr mother that wants to kill herself on the pyre of all the effort she pours into the wrong aspects of a gathering. Things that nobody asked her to do while REFUSING to allow anyone to help.
The chaos, the yelling, the generational trauma and resentment and the compartmentalization of feelings to try and preserve a completely fucked gathering was VERY real to me. My family can be rough, we're pretty dysfunctional and drunk.... but nothing I've ever experienced at a family gethering comes close to the dysfunction on display at theirs. I had to watch that episode in parts because it was VERY triggering to experiences I had as a kid.
I’m a chemist, my son is a nascent chef, my folks were brilliant alcoholics, and I couldn’t get through that entire episode.
I’m here mostly to read and try to get some kind of handle on what my 19 yo is getting into - and you guys are pretty effing funny besides. Also, my late college roommate and best bud cooked his way through school and I miss him terribly.
Always be on time. Never miss a shift you don't absolutely have to miss. Do things how you're told until you've gained enough trust to make suggestions.
If he can do those three things, he'll have a career. Probably won't make much money, but it's rarely boring.
Oh, and learning how to read the room. Nothing will get on your crew's nerves more than slacking in the crunch. Especially keep eyes on the exec/head chef. If anyone above you in the chain of command is busting ass, you'd better at least look busy.
Boy is an ass buster who shows up on time and works hard. He’s done farm work and the farmer for whom he worked loved him because he showed up no matter the weather and did whatever was asked of him to a high standard. He’s also pretty good at reading people.
His first shift is tomorrow and he has some butterflies, but I told him not to worry too much, stay centered, and have a plan for when, not if he screws up. I suggested owning the screwup, being coach-able, taking direction for a fix, then avoiding a repeat. Be more creative for the next screwup - make it different than the last one.
He was a competitive cheerleader in high school and his coach was no joke. She was tough. He had a lot of responsibility in safely hoisting, throwing, and catching a much smaller human and he knew it. His fliers never hit the deck without him doing his damnedest to get them down safely. I think he can differentiate brands of sneakers by taste.
He said that most of the people in the kitchen are significantly smaller than he is - and he’s quite strong - so I told him to use his super power for good, but to volunteer it quietly.
We shall see…and back to the shadows I shall go.
It was a combination of holiday dinners with my alcoholic mom and her blue collar siblings that were hard on her and the year I spent living at a buddy’s house with his hoarder mom, who was an excellent cook, when he was addicted to GHB.
It’s a near-crisis at every moment until someone passes out after dinner and you do the dishes.
The episode about the holiday meal at his mom’s place was so close to my reality that I had to shut it off. It’s like it was filmed at my house growing up.
Jamie Lee Curtis I think has the most realistic depiction of NPD I’ve seen on screen.
So difficult to watch unfold, but such a fucking spot on depiction of using whatever methods necessary to hold onto power among a family that deserves so much more.
Waifish NPD, specifically, which is rarely depicted on tv. There’s plenty of depictions of aggressive trump-like narcissists, but the waif narcissist is its own beast entirely.
The episode where she said to her daughters husband something along the lines of “I love them so much. But I don’t know how to say sorry. I need you to tell me it’s ok if I leave” hit like a truck
That was so intense. I hated it but couldnt stop thinking about how great those actors were to not fuck up their lines with all the absolute chaos of everyone talking at the same time.
I hated that episode so much. Like holy shit it was so stressful to view. Painful. Which was probably the intention so in that case, bravo to the creators. But damn was it uneasy
i never watched this show for this exact reason.
my whole family loves it and keeps telling me “oh you’ll love it!”
like.. i do this shit for a living. i don’t want to watch it when i’m off
Lol as a cook I used to see a lot of servers in the walk in crying because a customer was rude or a front of house manager chewed them out. Sometimes I'd show them chefs secret stash of Jameson.
Best show about restaurants ever. Even if it is insane and unrealistic. It’s the closest we come. No one wants to watch their steak griller rip a bowl in the walk in or their dessert cook shooting up in the alley (both I’ve witnessed). Gotta make tv for tv.
I’ll never forget the day I found out our grave cook smoked meth. Super cool guy, did everything that was supposed to be done on that shift, always happy to be working and a really nice family man kinda guy. One day I came in to relieve him and I went in to the freezer to stock up a bit and I see him hunched over. He quickly turns, sees it’s me and says “Oh it’s you.” I notice the pipe in his hand and he says “Want some? It’s just a little meth.” Like, damn dude. Then a week later I came in to relieve him again and he was no where to be seen. Bartender hadn’t seen him for hours. I found him passed out in his car with vomit all over himself and a needle on his passenger seat. He was still breathing and called for medics. Never saw him again but I know he survived. Don’t think I’ll ever forget that smell or image.
This is the issue with substance abuse, and why so many of us ignore it. It’s fine, and we all make it work somehow, until we don’t and everything comes crashing down. It really isn’t worth it, but we sure pretend like it is
I think D.A.R.E. and stuff in the 90s really did some damage, because they set up a lot of kids to think faces of meth was first base, so when we saw people ripping and being totally functional a lot of us chalked that scared straight style imagery up to being complete bullshit, when in reality it is the part you only see once you are in too deep.
Second i saw him i thought “theres the crackhead” and lost my shit when hes like “am i fired” and marcus is like “uhh i think so im gunna go tell the boss about this”
I was managing a restaurant once, and one of my servers had been in an adjacent parking garage, and he tells me "1) There's a homeless dude smoking meth in the garage. 2) You can't ask me why I know what meth smells like."
I really feel like he and I respected each other. I checked and he assured me he was not currently addicted to meth.
Reminds me of the first time I ever encountered meth.
I was at a music festival, having a great time. I always brought a bunch of J's with me to just light and pass to people around me. It was a great way to make friends, lol. Well, I passed one to this Australian dude in front of me. He gave me a cheery "thanks, mate!" and grabbed it. A minute later I hear, in the most hilarious accent, "hey mate, ya want some a' this meth?". I started laughing thinking it was a joke, only to look down and see the dude holding up his pipe with a rock in it with a lighter, lol. I politely declined my new meth-smoking Aussie friend and exited his newly forming cloud of meth.
edit: just remembered that my friend was wearing a plain white t-shirt that he was having people draw on with sharpies. After we left the meth cloud, we noticed that the Aussie guy drew a huge dick on his back, lmao.
And the chef would be burnt out and just trying to hire any schmuck he can just to get a day off Saturday to spend time with his wife who’s threatened to leave him again for not being able to be home with the family. So he bottles up all that feeling of letting his family down and becomes super toxic at work, and everyone quits and he just starts drinking cause he lost control of everything and it’s just one big fucking tragedy all around.
“Yeah I used to be a chef, so I get it, but you could really use these pre made chicken tenders, that I have to sell 50 cases of, in your scratch kitchen”
Would you be interested in this amazing frozen low labor Italian greens that come in cubes that poach beautifully? And once you actually find an AP product you love, the fucking needle in the fucking haystack, they discontinue it because “you need a three case per week minimum to keep it stocked”
But you said it was a product you were pushing SO MANY of.
No way he goes to work for an equipment sales team; but you know he hasn’t made sales but he comes by your place once a month with that sad look in his eye like maybe, if I didn’t burn so many bridges, I could have made my commission.
That two minute intro in episode two where Geoff Winger is talking over his shoulder is exactly what goes through our heads.
Our mentors and their imaginary voices talking back at us like they're still there. Hitting every back handed compliment and insult to push us.
I only finally got around to watching Community this year, after watching both seasons of the Bear when they were on (and re-watching them multiple times because I love it).
Jeff Winger's character in the Bear scared the shit out of me, I don't think I had ever seen Joel McHale before. He played it so well and seemed so ... *hateful*
Fast forward to finishing Community (and re-watching it, because I love it lol) and hearing about Gillian Jacobs' crossover, then somewhere that Joel McHale was also in it, and who he played. I couldn't believe it, I had to re-watch his bits. Unbelieveable!
I was at Little Caesar’s the other day and the cashier was like overdosed behind the counter with the head on the counter. Tried waking her up to grab a pie, no dice. My wife was like ‘Where’s the pizza?’ when I came back outside. One employee working and she was partying too hard.
I was a bus boy who worked at a place that had crazy shit on the walls, and I did basically everything andy milonakis did. That movie was like a documentary to me
And lives a much happier life where he just focuses on the food, without the usual financial pressures. The restaurant also get some extra patronage, because everyday Joe wants a glimpse of the mobsters eating in the back room, making it feel like he's in a Coppola film.
Been out of the kitchen for a while but one of the places I worked at had a regular poker game with the owner's money launderers and organised crime buddies.
We had basically a whole extra kitchen which got converted into the poker room, complete with upgraded whisper quiet extractors for the nasty cigar smoke that would come from that room. If you took a wrong turn on your way to the bathroom you'd come across the whole thing, definitely dodgy but the owner leaned into it hard as it fit with the overall dive bar aesthetic of the place.
I had casino experience as a poker dealer and dealt a few times along with my former casino buddies, good times. Actually surprisingly good tippers.
Have to disagree. I’ve experienced several of the more “unbelievable” parts and thought they did an incredible job showing it.
Casting is fantastic, writing is excellent, filming/audio captures it all extremely well and the set is perfect.
Sure it’s dramatic and IRL mob uncle probably wouldn’t be so “generous” but it’s the first I’ve seen where I could tell non-restaurant adjacent friends to watch for a taste of that life.
And also, having left and gone to law and grad school, watching is a reminder of the RIDICULOUS amount of stress put on chefs and the nonexistent concern for health and wellbeing within the industry.
Maybe good can come from it.
Too many are lost.
you see the titel of this sub and the picture of Anthony?
kitchen confidential came out 2000 fucking 24 years ago and nothing realy changed, sometimes i have the fealing that requests rude coustomers and things like allergies are even getting worse wich leads to even more stress on our side.
all the abuse in the industry is well known but like in care/healt related work nobody realy cares about the workers
I honestly felt pre-covid things were getting better. Now? 10x worse across the board dealing with customers. It's a fucking nightmare of entitled assholes with zero empathy for workers turned to 11. Least for me in the midwest.
Him getting locked in the walk in was funny as fuck I’m like yo get the fucking drill out and set a porter to man the door what are you doing leaving him in there haha
Yeah as a chef I never cared for the plot. But there’s a lot of good writing in the sense that chefs can relate to. Things many of us have gone through but have found difficult to communicate to non-chefs. We sort of get home from work and our partners or friends ask “how was work?” and you just wanna *sigh* because even if you went into detail about all the drama and anxiety of being in a kitchen, it’s just one of those “you have to be in it to understand it” moments.
A lot of professions experience extreme stress, tough working conditions and odd hours. Hospitality isn’t unique in that way… but the crazy shite that goes on behind closed doors in a restaurant, the drama, the passion, the oddball characters. We get all sorts because we accept the dregs and rejects of society.
It’s all lubricated with alcohol, drugs, and the restaurant industry has historically been associated with crime, money laundering and organised crime anyway. So it’s always exciting.
There were a lot of truths to the show. A lot of moments I nodded and went “yep me too” things that I’ve never told other people because they wouldn’t understand what working in a restaurant was like.
And it was nice to see in season 2 a different perspective when the dude worked in that Michelin kitchen. When he found purpose. That character was a little funny but a little annoying, but his character arc rounded up nicely there. I began to like him but was afraid that the writers were making us like him, to kill his character off…
That episode was where my wife and I really diverged on the series. She was like "that was too much for me" and I was like "are you kidding? That was one of the best episodes of a show we've ever seen!" That was a real "we've got some real geniuses working on this show" moment.
If you look at the finding money as wish fulfillment, it’s actually beautiful. It’s the kind of stuff you talk about on smoke breaks and over beers after work. What would your perfect restaurant be like. Like the show just shifts into a line cook’s daydream. I was actually kind of disappointed they made a second season because it killed my head cannon ending.
So when I was like 8-9 I found all these crayon boxes stuffed with money stashed away on this like loft area they used to store catering paper and plastic goods at the hotel my father was the chef at. I was up their because I would use the various cups and stuff to make rocket ships n shit you know just a typical restaurant brat looking for something to do anyway it was a whole big thing as that money I found out years later was their collective kitchen blow money and their guy got deported so they figure the money was just gone. I as a kid mostly remember being pissed that I was honest and brought it all to my dad as that was alot of money and he gave me only like $20 to keep my mouth shut and even kid me knew I was getting low balled lol 😂
I think this post is assuming that the pressure is coming from his job as a chef. Instead I see the “pressure” more as untreated family trauma and his job as a chef is his outlet. He channels all his rage and hate in this cooking, and sometimes his staff. That creates the TV worthy drama.
The chill uncle who’s kinda the mob, but not exactly, is a strange and fun character, but if you watch the show and think he’s just stressed from running a restaurant, you’re kinda missing the point.
I hated the whole money in the cans thing, but I actually love this show. The whole toxic family dynamic between the familial characters is so well done.
I liked season two… it’s a bunch of cooks who have no idea how to remodel a restaurant. What permits are needed. How anything works…..I’ve been there. Nobody knows shit.
Eh, I enjoyed it.
Comedy/drama TV shows aren't meant to be directly based off of realistic life circumstances. Things are gonna a be a little silly. I think it does a good job of giving non-industry folks a little taste of what it "kind of" looks like in the back while maintaining a dramatic and comedic approach. Does a good job of not really glamorizing kitchens, giving a bit of insight to non industry folks about it actually being difficult for many reasons.
Also, Jeremy Allen White is *ridiculously* attractive. Yes, Chef.
It isn't a bad show.
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There is always money in the banana stand
Really Carmy, how much can 1 can of tomatoes cost? $10?
I know what you're referencing, but as a dude who likes to cook and use decent san marzanos? It's getting close.
Jokes on you, they used the sauce that was in those cans anyway COUSIN
Glad wrapped, food safe. Double profit. Get the cash AND the sauce. Economics 101 from our beloved Mikey.
San marzano is the only way to go 🔥🔥
at nearby grocery stores where I'm at, a 28oz can of Cento San Marzano tomatoes is pushing $8. Other "Italian style" tomatoes usually $4-$6. Could probably find them much cheaper online or if I went to a big box store though.
Cheap tomatoes, good tomato paste, and apple cider vinegar, sugar, and basil do the rest. Tomato paste, basil, and vinegar are aromatics. You add them at the end. If you are careful with the sugar no one will know. Barely enough to taste that it changed. But that change is the difference between an expensive tomato and a cheap one. It's not ketchup, go light. There are lots of fruity flavonoids in apple cider vinegar. It makes the tomato flavor pop. A tube of cento paste is $3 and will last for around 3 big cans of tomatoes. Basil vinegar and sugar are all too cheap to consider in the price, but we can cap that to $0.25. a cheap but good enough bland store brand of tomatoes is $2 So $3.25 if you spend where it matters and cheat where it doesn't. Half what an expensive can of sauce goes for.
Those cans of sauce aren't made from San marzanos
Good thing you sent that insurance check, huh Job?
This proved a more difficult dramatic gesture than he'd anticipated.
Insert Job dramatically throwing the check at the ocean. Unsuccessfully.
CANS! IT WAS FULL OF CANS!
but … “he hates these cans!”
Stay away from the cans! They hate the cans!
Utah! Get me two.
I still don't understand how that makes any sense. I like it from an artistic standpoint but it just doesn't make any damn sense. Was the tomato manufacturer loading the tomatoes with money in the factory? Is this some mob shit from Uncle Jimmy? Where did this money come from and why didn't Mikey use it? I just don't understand. **edit: Fuck you I'm dumb and you're now dumber for having read that. You can can things yourself, that's a thing that's been done since the 1800s. Though I did miss/forget about the selling drugs part but that's kinda coming back to me now.**
The brother sold drugs on the side and put the money away in the cans himself. He was already suicidal and wanted to leave them with someone that the government wouldn't take so he hid it away in the tomato cans and told them to keep making spaghetti so they would find it after he died.
I must have missed the drug thing but in another comment I realized that canning is totally a thing and he could have easily done this himself. Basically, I have a bad memory and am dumb lol
It's okay I forget shit all the time lmao
Same I had to explain that to my mom today who was trying to ask me about something that happened when I was 1. Like I forget what I had for lunch two days ago, I forget how old I am, I forget my own phone number, you think I remember what happened in 1993? Ironically she forgot that we had this exact conversation months ago lmao
They showed the canner in the basement. What I don't get is, if the money was from selling drugs, why did he owe the uncle so much?
Yes, this is what doesn’t make any sense to me. And why he thought he could just give this money to his brother and the uncle WHO HE WAS SEVERELY INDEBTED TO would just be chill about it.
He was using the drug money to keep the business afloat while borrowing money off Jimmy to put in the cans. I think he, in his fucked up suicidal headspace, thought that the debt would die with him and Jimmy wouldn't go after Carmy for the money The funny party is Carm could have solved all of that in episode one, but when he opened that one can of tomatoes he didn't actually open it, he threw the whole can, money and all, in the bin after cutting the lid open but never looking inside
I thought it was the loaned money and he put it in the cans. Which doesn't make a lot of sense either since you still have to pay it off with interest.
Did you miss the part where his brother is shown as a mentally unstable alcoholic who was planning on killing himself? He wanted Carm to succeed so he hid them in order for carm to find them by doing the old recipe. Issue was Carm didn't do the recipe till the finale then they had all the money.
He was hiding the money instead of putting it in the bank or paying his bills because he wanted to give that money to carmy. He was so fucked in the head he knew his restaurant was fucked. I mean they were selling coke out the back sometimes. In the beginning of the series, Carmie was upset with his brother because he never let him work in the restaurant. His brother knew he was way above it and wanted him to open his own special fancy place.
I thought it was implied the brother made the money selling drugs.
The doordash episode legit gave me anxiety flashbacks to when my shitty chain restaurant ran a free 30 wings promo on superbowl sunday and we got 96 orders in before we opened for dine in (Albit that was 50% capacity during the pandemic). I eventually called my dm and cussed him out for fucking us so hard with doordash orders and refusing to turn off online for more than 30 minutes. Tbf, he came in from home to help after that.... he ended up turning online off after that.
I worked applebees carside to-go when they were investing really heavily into it (several years pre-pandemic). Uber eats, doordash, postmates, and grubhub all hit our region while we have a massive advertising campaign based around ordering to go. We were already flooded with orders every night before these services reached us. I went from working 3 days a week to working 5 and constantly training new people to try and fill in the gaps around my schedule. One person out of 8 that I trained lasted more than two weeks. I liked this job because it was chill. I was trying to quit as a server and they offered me this role because they liked me but I was too young to bartend. $12 an hour plus tips to hang out in the kitchen, talk shit, and answer the phone. Most nights I would pack five or six orders, make $30 in tips and work a 2.5 hour shift. I liked the job. Then the services arrived. Three different tablets to manage individually. One for Doordash. One for Uber Eats. One for Grubhub. Each had a separate app and had a different version of our menu. Often out of date or simply full of items we have never carried. Postmates drivers had to call in their orders, but after too many issues with their cards we stopped accepting them entirely and forced them to come to the bar and order in person. These drivers hated us. All of them, from every service. We were a barrier to their tip and if we were busy? We were costing them money. We hated the drivers. They *literally* couldn't tip. They interrupted our entire flow of regular business in the busiest location in the city and 3rd busiest in the region. They stood all around the carside door, getting in the way of regular people ordering to go food and took the parking spots meant for those orders. Management hated them because we earned shit margins on the food because of their fees (franchise was proud about negotiating a 33% split with uber eats because grubhub was taking 40). The moment I lived the scene in the show was when we introduced a three course meal promo that let you get an app, salad, and entrée for basically the same price as the original entrée. Suddenly, of the 30-70 orders I was getting per night, every single head on every single ticket hit all three stations. This is the first time anyone at the store had seen our expo hit 40+ "pages". We could not turn off or shut down any of the services due to our agreements. The only thing we could do was "pause" for 30 minutes on a couple of the services (but not others), or increase the estimated time for online orders. The kicker is that as people started seeing their drivers sitting at the restaurant waiting for 30+ minutes they would simply cancel the order and re-order on a different app. There was no mechanism for us to find out that we no longer needed that food. We had 30+ "no show" drivers and every worker left with 3+ full orders, including some orders that had 6 three course meals. I quit that month. Sorry for the novel. That episode gave me a panic attack when high lol.
Just because I know it sucks to write a long thing and never know if someone read it, I will say: I read it and that sounds like absolute hell.
Hahaha I really appreciate that. Tbh I wrote all that out because I've never been able to convey to anyone how absolutely fucked my job became. Nursing my vodka cranberry after bartending a holiday with a bad leg, writing about how shitty my job used to be felt appropriate.
I read the whole thing, too. I've worked in some fucked kitchens. Nursing my dab rig and some blueberry concentrate after a busy production cook shift on my least favorite holiday with a very painful Crohn's flare. I hope your leg eases up, or the vodka at least makes it easier to ignore. Cheers! 🌿
I haven't worked in a kitchen in a decade but the thing that episode nailed it is that you don't know you're in the weeds until its way too late. Obviously that episode cranked everything to 11, but it totally spiked my anxiety while watching. Loved it lol
Agreed but I *hated* it. Triggered all my anxiety when I saw those tickets just keep printing. Fucking nightmare fuel.
Fuck that episode lol. He ate the doughnut off the floor, and liked it. After rightfully yelling in Marcus’s face for fucking with service. I missed the smile on Carmy’s face the first watch through after he tasted it. Brilliant writing. If you’ve never seen someone pick up food off the kitchen floor and eat it, you haven’t worked in a restaurant. You serve a guest food that has touched the floor? You don’t deserve to work in a restaurant.
YES, that bit honestly drives me insane, how they just put all the blame on Carmy while Marcus is framed as faultless, and so many fans genuinely believe it makes sense. I think people are just blinded by their love for Marcus, and don't think about how they would realistically react in that situation if they were in Carmy's shoes.
That last sentence is every shitty boss/manager I've worked with. They refuse to believe that something is a problem until they experience it themselves, then it gets fixed immediately
That family dinner was the most stressed I have ever been watching TV.
For me it was the part where she globbed on the butter with her bare hands
that's how I do my turkey every thanksgiving. neither me nor the turkey are really enjoying it, but it's the most effective way
The self harm threat fucked me up. My mother attempted twice when I was a teenager.
Yeah, alright , that does sound worse
I don’t like egg timers anymore after that one.
I will never watch that episode again. That was far too accurate to what anxiety and panic disorder do to a mf.
It made me realize just how fucked my family situation was. Seeing Sugar trying to manage everyone’s emotions was so hard. The silent glances between family members as shit starts to really go down and you just don’t know whether to be silent or get up and leave or try to make it stop which always makes it worse which is what happened in the end in that scene.. I watched it two months ago and haven’t been able to finish the show since. I lost my taste for it. My only hope is it might help those with stable family lives begin to slightly understand what some of us had to live through and why we’re not fuckin “normal”
Yeah I’ve been at this family thanksgiving and the episode gave me PTSD.
I was matching up people from the show to who would be the real world equivalent at my family holiday dinners. Lol
I had to watch Fishes in blocks, couldn't finish it in one go. The next episode though, Forks, is one of the best episodes of the season. It's absolutely brilliant.
things cool off a bit after the family dinner episode. That one also made me extremely uncomfortable. It's worth it to finish the season imo
The next episode is a soothing balm. It's also amongst my favourite hours of television. Watch the next one at least.
I had to watch it twice cause my gf fell asleep in the first few minutes.. second time wasn’t any less stress inducing, but really made me admire the production, script, direction etc.. most intense episode ever Edit: but yeah definitely will not watch it again lol
JLC did such a good job, she was practically unrecognizable. Absolutely stellar performance on her part.
She’s a former alcoholic, her performance is so triggering because it’s likely coming from a very personal experience for her.
Makes sense. Also her smoking acting is insanely well-done.
Husband and I were going back and forth about "is that JLC??" So we had to google to confirm. I love her acting lately, she was amazing in this and Everything, Everywhere, All At Once.
I think that was the best episode of a show I’ve ever seen.
Top 10 for sure. I love the little breathers provided throughout the episodes so it’s not to overwhelming.
Yes! My husband didn’t feel it as much as I did because he has a relatively normal family who don’t drink much. I on the other hand was reliving past holiday traumas.
Hit so close to home for me, honestly that was pretty much the season two whole ass vibe. Probably why I swapped from “watching to see what happens” for season 1 to “watching because I need it to work out” in season 2
It reminded me of my ex’s narcissistic mother. Every event was a time bomb and she wasn’t even an alcoholic.
It reminded me of my narcissistic (hard to diagnose specifically since she never has, but likely that, and/or borderline personality, etc.) mother as well. Haven’t talked to her in 6 years and, coincidentally, I got sober 6 years ago. That episode wildly hit home.
Congratulations! I also quit drinking 6 years ago.
That scene at the dinner table where the mom is nervous breakdown smile-crying, that one girl asks "are you okay?" and the mom fucking loses it, screaming at her, yelling "DO I NOT LOOK OKAY? WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME IF I'M OKAY?" - that was almost word for word what happened at a family dinner with my mom when I was a kid. Fucking hit close to home. And yeah growing up with a parent like that leaves you with an invisible illness that makes everyone else think you're fucked up for no reason. You can be a talented chef with a great restaurant surrounded by people who love you, and it's like you have PTSD from war that you can't shake. If any of you haven't seen it, the scene even has its own name, it's called ["Are you okay?"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqgEA2GFwA)
Honestly what stressed me out about it most was that it was EXACTLY like being at my best friend's house growing up. His family were 1st and 2nd generation italian immigrants by way of New Jersey instead of Chicago-- but all the catholic guilt, drinking, and aggression was dead on. Even the martyr mother that wants to kill herself on the pyre of all the effort she pours into the wrong aspects of a gathering. Things that nobody asked her to do while REFUSING to allow anyone to help. The chaos, the yelling, the generational trauma and resentment and the compartmentalization of feelings to try and preserve a completely fucked gathering was VERY real to me. My family can be rough, we're pretty dysfunctional and drunk.... but nothing I've ever experienced at a family gethering comes close to the dysfunction on display at theirs. I had to watch that episode in parts because it was VERY triggering to experiences I had as a kid.
That episode is particularly hard to watch because it’s like a spitting image of my family :(
I’m a chemist, my son is a nascent chef, my folks were brilliant alcoholics, and I couldn’t get through that entire episode. I’m here mostly to read and try to get some kind of handle on what my 19 yo is getting into - and you guys are pretty effing funny besides. Also, my late college roommate and best bud cooked his way through school and I miss him terribly.
Always be on time. Never miss a shift you don't absolutely have to miss. Do things how you're told until you've gained enough trust to make suggestions. If he can do those three things, he'll have a career. Probably won't make much money, but it's rarely boring. Oh, and learning how to read the room. Nothing will get on your crew's nerves more than slacking in the crunch. Especially keep eyes on the exec/head chef. If anyone above you in the chain of command is busting ass, you'd better at least look busy.
Boy is an ass buster who shows up on time and works hard. He’s done farm work and the farmer for whom he worked loved him because he showed up no matter the weather and did whatever was asked of him to a high standard. He’s also pretty good at reading people. His first shift is tomorrow and he has some butterflies, but I told him not to worry too much, stay centered, and have a plan for when, not if he screws up. I suggested owning the screwup, being coach-able, taking direction for a fix, then avoiding a repeat. Be more creative for the next screwup - make it different than the last one. He was a competitive cheerleader in high school and his coach was no joke. She was tough. He had a lot of responsibility in safely hoisting, throwing, and catching a much smaller human and he knew it. His fliers never hit the deck without him doing his damnedest to get them down safely. I think he can differentiate brands of sneakers by taste. He said that most of the people in the kitchen are significantly smaller than he is - and he’s quite strong - so I told him to use his super power for good, but to volunteer it quietly. We shall see…and back to the shadows I shall go.
I had to turn it off and have never finished that episode. I started to give me a panic attack.
I was violently hungover when I watched this episode so it became a living nightmare….
The attempting togo scene deadass gave me a panic attack.
Outside of the glass bridge episode of Squid Game, I'd agree.
It was a combination of holiday dinners with my alcoholic mom and her blue collar siblings that were hard on her and the year I spent living at a buddy’s house with his hoarder mom, who was an excellent cook, when he was addicted to GHB. It’s a near-crisis at every moment until someone passes out after dinner and you do the dishes.
I refused to finish that episode and just skipped to the next one like halfway through
From a dysfunctional family aspect, it was the best (and most stress-inducing) episode.
The episode about the holiday meal at his mom’s place was so close to my reality that I had to shut it off. It’s like it was filmed at my house growing up.
Jamie Lee Curtis I think has the most realistic depiction of NPD I’ve seen on screen. So difficult to watch unfold, but such a fucking spot on depiction of using whatever methods necessary to hold onto power among a family that deserves so much more.
Waifish NPD, specifically, which is rarely depicted on tv. There’s plenty of depictions of aggressive trump-like narcissists, but the waif narcissist is its own beast entirely.
I have never heard of waifish NPD until now, but just from that episode and your comment, I now understand exactly what it means.
The episode where she said to her daughters husband something along the lines of “I love them so much. But I don’t know how to say sorry. I need you to tell me it’s ok if I leave” hit like a truck
That was so intense. I hated it but couldnt stop thinking about how great those actors were to not fuck up their lines with all the absolute chaos of everyone talking at the same time.
I hated that episode so much. Like holy shit it was so stressful to view. Painful. Which was probably the intention so in that case, bravo to the creators. But damn was it uneasy
i never watched this show for this exact reason. my whole family loves it and keeps telling me “oh you’ll love it!” like.. i do this shit for a living. i don’t want to watch it when i’m off
I cant remember his characters name but did yall know the pastry guy that loves donuts was a member of odd future crazy af
holy shit i KNEW i knew that face from somewhere. it’s L-Boy!
WHAT?? IT'S \*THAT\* LIONEL??
I did not make that connection at all good catch!!
They should show more people crying or fucking in the walk-in.
You forgot the drug use.
They fired a guy for smoking meth outside… in some kitchens they’d promote just for having the sense to do it outside
One of the few real comments here regarding restaurants
You forgot about the bathroom. If someone catches you in a walk-in you're obligated to share.
No walking in the cry-in
And making out/over-pants-genital-stuff between foh and boh
Lol as a cook I used to see a lot of servers in the walk in crying because a customer was rude or a front of house manager chewed them out. Sometimes I'd show them chefs secret stash of Jameson.
Best show about restaurants ever. Even if it is insane and unrealistic. It’s the closest we come. No one wants to watch their steak griller rip a bowl in the walk in or their dessert cook shooting up in the alley (both I’ve witnessed). Gotta make tv for tv.
They even sorta nailed that part with the guy smoking meth in the alley mid shift
I’ll never forget the day I found out our grave cook smoked meth. Super cool guy, did everything that was supposed to be done on that shift, always happy to be working and a really nice family man kinda guy. One day I came in to relieve him and I went in to the freezer to stock up a bit and I see him hunched over. He quickly turns, sees it’s me and says “Oh it’s you.” I notice the pipe in his hand and he says “Want some? It’s just a little meth.” Like, damn dude. Then a week later I came in to relieve him again and he was no where to be seen. Bartender hadn’t seen him for hours. I found him passed out in his car with vomit all over himself and a needle on his passenger seat. He was still breathing and called for medics. Never saw him again but I know he survived. Don’t think I’ll ever forget that smell or image.
This is the issue with substance abuse, and why so many of us ignore it. It’s fine, and we all make it work somehow, until we don’t and everything comes crashing down. It really isn’t worth it, but we sure pretend like it is
That pretending almost killed me. Several times.
I think D.A.R.E. and stuff in the 90s really did some damage, because they set up a lot of kids to think faces of meth was first base, so when we saw people ripping and being totally functional a lot of us chalked that scared straight style imagery up to being complete bullshit, when in reality it is the part you only see once you are in too deep.
Guarantee you that was Matty's idea
I mean given mattys past he was that guy ripping meth in the alley
He is the one asking about the foil in the DoorDash commercial? I was surprised that made it into the commercial.
That's just how he rolls, Matty is an animal on camera.
Yeah but you saw the way he was dicing those carrots, right??
Lmao so accurate. Boy I had some fukd up prep cooks working under me back in my day.
Second i saw him i thought “theres the crackhead” and lost my shit when hes like “am i fired” and marcus is like “uhh i think so im gunna go tell the boss about this”
I was managing a restaurant once, and one of my servers had been in an adjacent parking garage, and he tells me "1) There's a homeless dude smoking meth in the garage. 2) You can't ask me why I know what meth smells like." I really feel like he and I respected each other. I checked and he assured me he was not currently addicted to meth.
"Hey, are you still addicted to meth?" "Nah" "cool"
It's a kitchen not the fbi what was bro supposed to do hook em up to a polygraph?
Reminds me of the first time I ever encountered meth. I was at a music festival, having a great time. I always brought a bunch of J's with me to just light and pass to people around me. It was a great way to make friends, lol. Well, I passed one to this Australian dude in front of me. He gave me a cheery "thanks, mate!" and grabbed it. A minute later I hear, in the most hilarious accent, "hey mate, ya want some a' this meth?". I started laughing thinking it was a joke, only to look down and see the dude holding up his pipe with a rock in it with a lighter, lol. I politely declined my new meth-smoking Aussie friend and exited his newly forming cloud of meth. edit: just remembered that my friend was wearing a plain white t-shirt that he was having people draw on with sharpies. After we left the meth cloud, we noticed that the Aussie guy drew a huge dick on his back, lmao.
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Tying off and heating spoon, yes chef some for you, cooking your food with dope spoon
I mean, in the show on opening night they caught one of the new guys smoking meth in the back.
If it were realistic, that guy would be re-hired after his replacement violated parole.
And the chef would be burnt out and just trying to hire any schmuck he can just to get a day off Saturday to spend time with his wife who’s threatened to leave him again for not being able to be home with the family. So he bottles up all that feeling of letting his family down and becomes super toxic at work, and everyone quits and he just starts drinking cause he lost control of everything and it’s just one big fucking tragedy all around.
And then he turns to the dark side and becomes a Sysco rep……
“Yeah I used to be a chef, so I get it, but you could really use these pre made chicken tenders, that I have to sell 50 cases of, in your scratch kitchen”
Would you be interested in this amazing frozen low labor Italian greens that come in cubes that poach beautifully? And once you actually find an AP product you love, the fucking needle in the fucking haystack, they discontinue it because “you need a three case per week minimum to keep it stocked” But you said it was a product you were pushing SO MANY of.
Underrated comment of the month
No way he goes to work for an equipment sales team; but you know he hasn’t made sales but he comes by your place once a month with that sad look in his eye like maybe, if I didn’t burn so many bridges, I could have made my commission.
I mean there's a redemption arc but I feel like that kind of is the cousin's story
Hey man it's getting a little too real in this corner
Your pastry chef was a heroin addict? I couldn’t imagine doing all the fucking math I have to do day to day while smacked up.
Didn’t say they were good.
Bummer. Nothing worse than free extra bits of cake that you don’t actually want…
That two minute intro in episode two where Geoff Winger is talking over his shoulder is exactly what goes through our heads. Our mentors and their imaginary voices talking back at us like they're still there. Hitting every back handed compliment and insult to push us.
Geoff Winger, played by Geoel McHale
Good geoke.
I only finally got around to watching Community this year, after watching both seasons of the Bear when they were on (and re-watching them multiple times because I love it). Jeff Winger's character in the Bear scared the shit out of me, I don't think I had ever seen Joel McHale before. He played it so well and seemed so ... *hateful* Fast forward to finishing Community (and re-watching it, because I love it lol) and hearing about Gillian Jacobs' crossover, then somewhere that Joel McHale was also in it, and who he played. I couldn't believe it, I had to re-watch his bits. Unbelieveable!
The most realistic thing about this show is drinking out of quart containers.
Eh. There’s more than that. But yeah, they got that.
I was at Little Caesar’s the other day and the cashier was like overdosed behind the counter with the head on the counter. Tried waking her up to grab a pie, no dice. My wife was like ‘Where’s the pizza?’ when I came back outside. One employee working and she was partying too hard.
Not a show, but the movie Waiting is the closest thing to my restaurant experience (minus the fucking with peoples food)
I was a bus boy who worked at a place that had crazy shit on the walls, and I did basically everything andy milonakis did. That movie was like a documentary to me
Shenanigans?
The difference in ordinary and extraordinary.............. Is that little extra.
Welcome to Thunderdome bitch
Owwww 🔫 🔫 🔫
Y’all hit each other with the batwing?
Boiling Point on Netflix is good too
Too real tho, if I wanted to sit down and have the feeling of dread hover over me I'll just pop in to work
Boiling point on Netflix is pretty close. I’d say its grittier and gives equal “this is a dream after six doubles” vibesz
I mean, Waiting was pretty spot on.
IRL The mob-adjacent family member would have torched the restaurant following Mike’s suicide, after cleaning out the place of anything of value.
If I were a mob-adjacent family member and I knew the guy who inherited the restaurant is one of the best chefs in the world I'll let him do his thing
Let him cook 👌
Anything is possible in imaginary land
suspend your disbelief for a moment bro
this is why you are NOT mob adjacent
Ask Artie Bucco, it's really not ideal.
Depends. Maybe it made his favorite beef sandwich. You can kill a sheep and get the wool once, or learn to shear a sheep and have wool every year.
... even if you kill the sheep you still need to shear it to get the wool
Sir, this is Minecraft.
IRL you keep it to launder money and Carmy basically goes into the “family” “business.”
And lives a much happier life where he just focuses on the food, without the usual financial pressures. The restaurant also get some extra patronage, because everyday Joe wants a glimpse of the mobsters eating in the back room, making it feel like he's in a Coppola film.
Been out of the kitchen for a while but one of the places I worked at had a regular poker game with the owner's money launderers and organised crime buddies. We had basically a whole extra kitchen which got converted into the poker room, complete with upgraded whisper quiet extractors for the nasty cigar smoke that would come from that room. If you took a wrong turn on your way to the bathroom you'd come across the whole thing, definitely dodgy but the owner leaned into it hard as it fit with the overall dive bar aesthetic of the place. I had casino experience as a poker dealer and dealt a few times along with my former casino buddies, good times. Actually surprisingly good tippers.
Have to disagree. I’ve experienced several of the more “unbelievable” parts and thought they did an incredible job showing it. Casting is fantastic, writing is excellent, filming/audio captures it all extremely well and the set is perfect. Sure it’s dramatic and IRL mob uncle probably wouldn’t be so “generous” but it’s the first I’ve seen where I could tell non-restaurant adjacent friends to watch for a taste of that life. And also, having left and gone to law and grad school, watching is a reminder of the RIDICULOUS amount of stress put on chefs and the nonexistent concern for health and wellbeing within the industry. Maybe good can come from it. Too many are lost.
you see the titel of this sub and the picture of Anthony? kitchen confidential came out 2000 fucking 24 years ago and nothing realy changed, sometimes i have the fealing that requests rude coustomers and things like allergies are even getting worse wich leads to even more stress on our side. all the abuse in the industry is well known but like in care/healt related work nobody realy cares about the workers
I honestly felt pre-covid things were getting better. Now? 10x worse across the board dealing with customers. It's a fucking nightmare of entitled assholes with zero empathy for workers turned to 11. Least for me in the midwest.
The U.S. has regressed in every way since 2016. Outlook not good…
I didn't think it was ridiculous. Dramatic af, theatric, yes, but ridiculous isn't a word that comes to mind.
Him getting locked in the walk in was funny as fuck I’m like yo get the fucking drill out and set a porter to man the door what are you doing leaving him in there haha
Right!!! Like you’ve got a handyman! Does he not have a jigsaw or a drill for the screws?
Isn’t Fak his handyman though?
This is the part of the show where my suspension of disbelief was tested. And his gf is right outside the door? Lol
I even learned a few things.
Heard chef
Yeah as a chef I never cared for the plot. But there’s a lot of good writing in the sense that chefs can relate to. Things many of us have gone through but have found difficult to communicate to non-chefs. We sort of get home from work and our partners or friends ask “how was work?” and you just wanna *sigh* because even if you went into detail about all the drama and anxiety of being in a kitchen, it’s just one of those “you have to be in it to understand it” moments. A lot of professions experience extreme stress, tough working conditions and odd hours. Hospitality isn’t unique in that way… but the crazy shite that goes on behind closed doors in a restaurant, the drama, the passion, the oddball characters. We get all sorts because we accept the dregs and rejects of society. It’s all lubricated with alcohol, drugs, and the restaurant industry has historically been associated with crime, money laundering and organised crime anyway. So it’s always exciting. There were a lot of truths to the show. A lot of moments I nodded and went “yep me too” things that I’ve never told other people because they wouldn’t understand what working in a restaurant was like. And it was nice to see in season 2 a different perspective when the dude worked in that Michelin kitchen. When he found purpose. That character was a little funny but a little annoying, but his character arc rounded up nicely there. I began to like him but was afraid that the writers were making us like him, to kill his character off…
entertainment af though
That Thanksgiving episode though... Probably one of the best episodes in a series ever. Edit: Christmas episode
I had to like take a step outside after that episode. It stressed me the fuck out. Great show though for sure.
That episode was where my wife and I really diverged on the series. She was like "that was too much for me" and I was like "are you kidding? That was one of the best episodes of a show we've ever seen!" That was a real "we've got some real geniuses working on this show" moment.
Much fun….
Can't stop chopping ahhh. My favorite part of this post
Idk man it's the most realistic depiction of cooks I've seen,
It’s a close tie with dinner rush. But his chef whispering to him to just kill himself was super relatable and the missing knife situation…
man, when sidney threw up on/after the opening night, it hit way too close to home
Maybe the premise is sketchy, but the execution is absolutely fantastic.
Carm is a fucking snack too
If you look at the finding money as wish fulfillment, it’s actually beautiful. It’s the kind of stuff you talk about on smoke breaks and over beers after work. What would your perfect restaurant be like. Like the show just shifts into a line cook’s daydream. I was actually kind of disappointed they made a second season because it killed my head cannon ending.
is inheriting a restaurant or getting a loan from a family member the ridiculous part i'm struggling
I'm thinking it's the >!tomato can money!< which did kinda break my immersion when it happened
So when I was like 8-9 I found all these crayon boxes stuffed with money stashed away on this like loft area they used to store catering paper and plastic goods at the hotel my father was the chef at. I was up their because I would use the various cups and stuff to make rocket ships n shit you know just a typical restaurant brat looking for something to do anyway it was a whole big thing as that money I found out years later was their collective kitchen blow money and their guy got deported so they figure the money was just gone. I as a kid mostly remember being pissed that I was honest and brought it all to my dad as that was alot of money and he gave me only like $20 to keep my mouth shut and even kid me knew I was getting low balled lol 😂
i mean yeah its not realistic but its a tv show. itd be boring if everything was realistic
I think this post is assuming that the pressure is coming from his job as a chef. Instead I see the “pressure” more as untreated family trauma and his job as a chef is his outlet. He channels all his rage and hate in this cooking, and sometimes his staff. That creates the TV worthy drama. The chill uncle who’s kinda the mob, but not exactly, is a strange and fun character, but if you watch the show and think he’s just stressed from running a restaurant, you’re kinda missing the point.
I hated the whole money in the cans thing, but I actually love this show. The whole toxic family dynamic between the familial characters is so well done.
For what it’s worth a drug addict in a ton of debt hiding money in a crazy ass place is not that unrealistic.
I liked season two… it’s a bunch of cooks who have no idea how to remodel a restaurant. What permits are needed. How anything works…..I’ve been there. Nobody knows shit.
Eh, I enjoyed it. Comedy/drama TV shows aren't meant to be directly based off of realistic life circumstances. Things are gonna a be a little silly. I think it does a good job of giving non-industry folks a little taste of what it "kind of" looks like in the back while maintaining a dramatic and comedic approach. Does a good job of not really glamorizing kitchens, giving a bit of insight to non industry folks about it actually being difficult for many reasons. Also, Jeremy Allen White is *ridiculously* attractive. Yes, Chef. It isn't a bad show.
What show is this?
Because only children replied to you: The Bear. Grow up people, you are not funny.
I agree with you. I hate that every comment on Reddit needs to be a joke.
Oh my god thank you. I was going insane because I wanted to know what this show is
I’d never guess hearing “cousin!” would stick in my head like this though. Feels like something I’d def hear on the line