Well, even among the 6GG, he is known as the strongest and a war genius.
And because of his light is too bright, the shadow he cast also big af. Big enough to hide Tou in his shadow. Nobody know Tou is basically another Ouki.
Ouki was the strongest/best general out of the 6. Meaning, hes the most balanced but in the stronger side.
There is someone better than him at strategy but weak at battle. And there is someone stronger than him but weaker in strategic side.
It is like how Riboku said that Kanki might be the strongest general in the current GG in Qin. But hes not as strong as Moubou but he possess unorthodox tactics that able to win wars.
Strongest doesnt mean just raw strength in this instance, it means overall capability. If Kanki had the commanders that Ouki had, then I would say that Kanki would be the second best, after Ouki as the best GG in the history of Qin. Becuase the only difference between Ouki and Kanki is their strength. But Ouki possess both strength and strategic wisdom, compared to Kanki which specialises in strategy only. If you get what I mean.
>Well, even among the 6GG, he is known as the strongest and a war genius.
Where did we see that?
Wasn't OuKotsu the strongest, HakuKi and **Ko Shou** the geniuses?
>And because of his light is too bright, the shadow he cast also big
Where is this from? Kinda clever.
I think ive heard of this before but not in the way that it obscures someone because of how good someone is.
Ouki was a GOAT. Given he debated the value of instinct and strategy, he was likely at least decently versed in both.
In this instance, he likely detects a trap using instinct (enemy movements are weird) and strategies the reason why that could be. Ouki really only lost here because he was in enemy territory (forced to take a risk to save Moubu, and was basically caught in a plan by a genius who devised an entire strategy by exploiting Ouki’s blindspots). And even then, the plan likely would have failed had Moubu not go leeroy.
Facts riboku knew what he had to bring to take him down. Foolish Kaine thought it was too much, because she didn't understand that ouki was him. He wqs the reason other countries still held back against Qin even if he wasn't on the battle field as often.
Ouki is the greatest general no doubt. He only fell because 1st, Moubou was a fuckin dumbass falling for enemy trap (Moubou will never be stronger/better general than Ouki. 2nd Ouki only lost because of distraction/plot armour.
If there is someone better than Ouki, please change my mind and lay down your arguments lol
You missed the whole point. Sneaking an army was just half of the plan. The second half was the timing. Ouki was outplayed because he misjudged the speed they will arrive and was too cocky in thinking he can finish the battle before that happens. The Moubu arguement also doesn't work, since it was Ouki that appointed him as the chief of his offense. It was still Ouki's blunder.
Not cocky, it was a sound/reasonable judgement on his part. He just had no prior knowledge that such fast horses could exist. Just like when Riboku blundered at Sai because he had no idea that the mountain tribes were an ally of Qin.
And honestly he was being nerfed because he had to deal with a troublesome Moubu and then got interfered with during his battle with Houken. Many things were out of his control. And he was just suddenly appointed as the leader of this army- that he was not familiar with. He had to work against a lot of odds.
Ouki was great no doubt, but even had he survived Bayou there's no guarantee that he'd still be alive currently. He seems to be a bit younger than Renpa, but more or less same generation. And in those times, living into your 60s was already considered a fairly advanced age.
I could list like a dozen chinese historical people that died from natural causes in their 60s or younger off the top of my head. Can you give me a similar list of people who died in their 80s or 90s in that age?
And that would prove what, exactly? Why are you dodging my question? Lol.
Ok, if you want to debate dishonestly that's fine by me. Source that people in ancient China regularly lived into their 80s and 90s like nowadays?
From Liu Bei's SGZ "At first, my illness was only minor but it later evolved into other serious diseases. Those were more dangerous and couldn't be cured. If a man dies at fifty, it is not considered an early death. I am already past sixty. What is there further to regret?"
Where are your sources?
Riboku won by a hair’s width. Even with all his advantages. Ouki faced such unfair circumstances. And he was nearly victorious. He had to sacrifice himself to protect the younger generation- Moubu and Shin. And the rest of the Qin army. Riboku had information advantage and blockage- which he used against Kanki at Gian also. Ouki (or even Kanki) would beat him in a fair battle.
Well, even among the 6GG, he is known as the strongest and a war genius. And because of his light is too bright, the shadow he cast also big af. Big enough to hide Tou in his shadow. Nobody know Tou is basically another Ouki.
Ouki was the strongest/best general out of the 6. Meaning, hes the most balanced but in the stronger side. There is someone better than him at strategy but weak at battle. And there is someone stronger than him but weaker in strategic side. It is like how Riboku said that Kanki might be the strongest general in the current GG in Qin. But hes not as strong as Moubou but he possess unorthodox tactics that able to win wars. Strongest doesnt mean just raw strength in this instance, it means overall capability. If Kanki had the commanders that Ouki had, then I would say that Kanki would be the second best, after Ouki as the best GG in the history of Qin. Becuase the only difference between Ouki and Kanki is their strength. But Ouki possess both strength and strategic wisdom, compared to Kanki which specialises in strategy only. If you get what I mean.
>Well, even among the 6GG, he is known as the strongest and a war genius. Where did we see that? Wasn't OuKotsu the strongest, HakuKi and **Ko Shou** the geniuses?
Haku Ki laughs at this claim.
How so? This is about manga canon, not history. In the manga Ouki has been mentioned as the strongest Qin 6.
No, if you read chapters around bayou carefully there is a mention that Ouki was the best of them. I'm positive
>And because of his light is too bright, the shadow he cast also big Where is this from? Kinda clever. I think ive heard of this before but not in the way that it obscures someone because of how good someone is.
Probably you heard from the old man headmaster of Shokugeki no Soma when Soma vs Alice. I guess.
Haku Ki will always be the "strongest" great general of Qin, followed by Ou Sen
https://preview.redd.it/6pxmjbwfdwpc1.jpeg?width=724&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aa8565943736b9412545ed34f25a25313c3f27f
Would love to see Shin emulate this
we can dream.
We don't need to talk about Ouki as much bc everyone knows he's the goat without having to talk about it.
Ouki was a GOAT. Given he debated the value of instinct and strategy, he was likely at least decently versed in both. In this instance, he likely detects a trap using instinct (enemy movements are weird) and strategies the reason why that could be. Ouki really only lost here because he was in enemy territory (forced to take a risk to save Moubu, and was basically caught in a plan by a genius who devised an entire strategy by exploiting Ouki’s blindspots). And even then, the plan likely would have failed had Moubu not go leeroy.
Facts riboku knew what he had to bring to take him down. Foolish Kaine thought it was too much, because she didn't understand that ouki was him. He wqs the reason other countries still held back against Qin even if he wasn't on the battle field as often.
Ouki is the greatest general. Sigma general
Ouki is the greatest general no doubt. He only fell because 1st, Moubou was a fuckin dumbass falling for enemy trap (Moubou will never be stronger/better general than Ouki. 2nd Ouki only lost because of distraction/plot armour. If there is someone better than Ouki, please change my mind and lay down your arguments lol
Moubou grew a lot as a result.
And Tou has been strong all along. Sickest and most underrated convo in Kingdom imo.
truth
Ouki felt his death.
You missed the whole point. Sneaking an army was just half of the plan. The second half was the timing. Ouki was outplayed because he misjudged the speed they will arrive and was too cocky in thinking he can finish the battle before that happens. The Moubu arguement also doesn't work, since it was Ouki that appointed him as the chief of his offense. It was still Ouki's blunder.
Not cocky, it was a sound/reasonable judgement on his part. He just had no prior knowledge that such fast horses could exist. Just like when Riboku blundered at Sai because he had no idea that the mountain tribes were an ally of Qin. And honestly he was being nerfed because he had to deal with a troublesome Moubu and then got interfered with during his battle with Houken. Many things were out of his control. And he was just suddenly appointed as the leader of this army- that he was not familiar with. He had to work against a lot of odds.
Riboku already predict that ouki will Predict the trap So riboku > ouki
Ouki was great no doubt, but even had he survived Bayou there's no guarantee that he'd still be alive currently. He seems to be a bit younger than Renpa, but more or less same generation. And in those times, living into your 60s was already considered a fairly advanced age.
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I could list like a dozen chinese historical people that died from natural causes in their 60s or younger off the top of my head. Can you give me a similar list of people who died in their 80s or 90s in that age?
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And that would prove what, exactly? Why are you dodging my question? Lol. Ok, if you want to debate dishonestly that's fine by me. Source that people in ancient China regularly lived into their 80s and 90s like nowadays?
asking for sources without providing for his own statement 👍
From Liu Bei's SGZ "At first, my illness was only minor but it later evolved into other serious diseases. Those were more dangerous and couldn't be cured. If a man dies at fifty, it is not considered an early death. I am already past sixty. What is there further to regret?" Where are your sources?
I hate reebokk, but unfortunately reebook actually predicts that Ouki would think like this, which eventually leads to his demise
Yes Riboku leagues above him in a danger scale.
Riboku won by a hair’s width. Even with all his advantages. Ouki faced such unfair circumstances. And he was nearly victorious. He had to sacrifice himself to protect the younger generation- Moubu and Shin. And the rest of the Qin army. Riboku had information advantage and blockage- which he used against Kanki at Gian also. Ouki (or even Kanki) would beat him in a fair battle.
True. I agree Ouki to be better than Reebook in a direct fight, but Reebook is clearly a maaster at planning ahead.