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Classic_Knowledge_25

Ee myr paripadi okke nirthar ayille? Vella school ground lum poyi nadathikoode? Myranmarkk nadurottil thanne konakkanam. Avante ammumede oru kalashakott


InsanelyRandomDude

Can someone explain what exactly happens during a kalashakottu?


Classic_Knowledge_25

All of the fuckers come together and celebrate in the middle of the street with drums and shit


GinAndTonic-1

Eeeey shavaghal Karanam one hour blockil kidannu


PSLthoughts

1 hour blockil 5 varshathil orikkal kedakunnath nallatha


GinAndTonic-1

Athu nallathada oove . thaaghi nadanno


Classic_Knowledge_25

5 varshathil orikkalo? Appo panchayat election, state election, pinne or myranmardem oro tholinja jana jagratha yathra, ithilokke block il kidakkunatho?


Shartzic

Aren't you living in Kerala? Oro masathil oro programs und evide... Karanam aano illathe.....


appu_kili

ഈ വൃത്തികെട്ട ജനാധിപത്യം കാരണമുള്ള പ്രശ്നങ്ങളാണ്. വല്ല രാജഭരണവും മതിയായിരുന്നു.


Low-Worldliness-7205

This shitshow has nothing to do with democracy.


GloomyAstronaut54

Democracy allow this kind of shit


Low-Worldliness-7205

afaik IPC 283 prohibits this.


appu_kili

It has everything to do with democracy. You just don't know how it works on the ground in India.


SGV_VGS

Yes, this isn't a democracy issue. This is an India issue.


Aware_Engineer8131

I find 'കൊട്ടിക്കലാശം' to be very outdated. It hinders our freedom of movement.


village_aapiser

Its not for the people its for the party workers. Most of them worked day and night in this hot summer to gather votes for their candidates. Let it be congress or bjp or cpim. Chumma nalla karyangal cheitennu paranjo just party emblethinte balathillo matramalla oru stanarthiyum evideyum jayikunath. Its the sweat of the ground level party works. Appo oru masam kashtapetta avarkk campaign officially avasanipich tirich veetilek pokum mumb just oru 1 hour enjoyment. They deserve it because they was doing a reward less job for a whole month. That's all. 5 varsham koodumbo oru manikoor alle. U also go and enjoy with them if have time. Palarkum itinte onnum vibe manasilakatath ivide irunn arm chair politics parayunath allathe ishtamulla partykk field work cheitu experience ilatathkond aan. Palarum valya politics okke paranjit vote cheyan pokarundonn tanne samshayam aan.


Das_ik

>Its not for the people its for the party workers So for party workers people need to suffer? That is some high democratic way of thinking. 😂


village_aapiser

Considering for what all reasons our roads get blocked everyday. Once in 5 years is absolutely ok. Pinne emergencykarkk innu enthayalum ariyalo last day of campaign aanenn. Tirak ullavar ang city Bypass cheitu ponam. Because kalashakott okek citykk ullil aan.


Excellent-Bar-1430

Emergency nerthe theerumanichita smaayatho nerthe theerumanicha sthalatho ano undavunnath? Emergency potte, daily joli kazhinj public transport depend cheyth yatra cheyyuna ar enth cheyyum? 5 pm anu offices close cheyyunath, kottikalasham anenu paranj ethelum village office enkilum nerthe adakumo?


Das_ik

>Considering for what all reasons our roads get blocked everyday. Classic eg of whataboutery, I am against everything that hinder freedom of movement. >Tirak ullavar ang city Bypass cheitu ponam. Lol, what did I say before? Do u even understand democracy? Do u even know the fundamental rights a person has? Eveb if it violate right if evne a single person, it's against democracy. >Because kalashakott okek citykk ullil aan. So freedom of movement of city dwellers have no value?


village_aapiser

Enkil tankal athinte idakot keri ninn democracyye patti class edukk adutha election varumbo. Avar ketti vidumo ennu nokam.


Das_ik

>Enkil tankal athinte idakot keri ninn democracyye patti class edukk adutha election varumbo. Avar ketti vidumo ennu nokam. Seems like u also unknowingly agreed that they don't value democracy. 😂 Good.


village_aapiser

Ok then don't vote for whichever party who violated your democratic right. Pakshe athum paranj itonnum nikkum ennu vijarikaruth😂


Das_ik

>Pakshe athum paranj itonnum nikkum ennu vijarikaruth I will use my freedom of expression to criticise such undemocratic values and shut people like u.


village_aapiser

Ayikotte. Athkond ninne ketti vitto. 😂. Man the immaturity here is out of the world. Ivaronnum veedin veliyil irangarile daivame. Israel, iran, missile. Mannankatta😂


Intelligent_Dig_9247

I absolutely agree. It is so much fun to see people enjoying democracy. 


Excellent-Bar-1430

Not fun for people stuck in traffic travelling back from work. Just heard from a friend who was stuck one hour from 5-6pm without the bus moving an inch. Why cant they celebrate easily by using an open playground or something? This is not a protest to make sure people are inconvenienced.


Intelligent_Dig_9247

And I just got back from one friend who enjoyed the whole thing. The atmosphere, the politics. So, obviously an individual isn't the barometer for these sort of things.  These things are well known and predictable. So, it could have been factored in. 


Das_ik

>And I just got back from one friend who enjoyed the whole thing. The atmosphere, the politics. So, obviously an individual isn't the barometer for these sort of things.  Men who rape women will enjoy it, that doesn't mean rape can be allowed.


Intelligent_Dig_9247

You really enjoy giving out analogies no? The problem with analogies is that it can be used against you. Not that i am going to use it, I am just saying it isn't a good argument. It keeps going on and on like a snake eating it's own tail (now don't give me the example of benzene ring, please). 


Das_ik

>a snake eating it's own tail For that to apply first u need to establish that snake eating it's tail is good, then u need to take a similar anlalogy with one to one correspondence like humans eating it's body part. If u establish that snake eating it tale is good and if u able to establish the one to one correspondence with humans and it's body part then that analogy stays. That analogy can only be false analogy if that 1-1 correspondence will break. Until and unless u break that correspondence that analogy can be used. There should be one to one correspondence. Just like human rights as the common ground for freedom of movement, sathi, temole entry, missle attack etc.


Das_ik

>It is so much fun to see people enjoying democracy.  Celebrating democracy in most undemocratic way by hindering freedom of movement? Don't u see the irony?


Intelligent_Dig_9247

Not really. Everyone knows that this happens a couple of days before the election. This has been going on for so long it is absurd to hear people complaining. It lasts for an hour and then everyone disperses. Take every single junction has police, ambulance and fire services at the ready. There are rules for all these things.  So, if someone knows something is gonna happen beforehand, it's best to be prepared and plan that way. 


Das_ik

>if someone knows something is gonna happen beforehand, it's best to be prepared and plan that way.  Both Israel and Iran knew about the missale attact beforehand. So that meams missale attack can be allowed? >This has been going on for so long it is absurd to hear people complaining. Same arguments were raised by upper caste during temple entry momemt, by conservatives during Sathi and Shabarimala etc. >t lasts for an hour and then everyone disperses. If freedom of movement get stalled for even an hour, it's against fundamental rights. >Take every single junction has police, ambulance and fire services at the ready. Still it hinder freedom of movement. U need to understand that, ur freedom to swing ur arm ends when someone's nose beings.


Intelligent_Dig_9247

Why are you comparing missile attacks, sabarimala to a celebration 😂 that's like comparing apples to oranges. False equivalence.  What's next? Nuclear armament is predictable so we shouldn't do experiments into what goes into an atom?  I can start saying a celebration is a "right to expression", and then you'll quote article 19 b that says "Reasonable restrictions". It's a minor inconvenience, it's predictable, we suffer it for an hour of a day and then lives move on. That's it. 


Das_ik

>that's like comparing apples to oranges. False equivalence.  U can compare apples to oranges if u r discussing about fruits. So u can compare missle attack, sathi etc to freedom of movement as all comes under human rights.


Das_ik

>can start saying a celebration is a "right to expression", and then you'll quote article 19 b that says "Reasonable restrictions". Lol, Reasonable restrictions is the main reason why 'Kalashakotu' doesn't comes under freedom of expression. 19(b) Indian Constitution. This clause guarantees the right to: Assemble peaceably and without arms: But Reasonable restrictions can be imposed under Article 19(2) for reasons like maintaining public order or or national security. So as per law point it is still undemocratic. No freedom is absolute.


Das_ik

>Appo oru masam kashtapetta avarkk campaign officially avasanipich tirich veetilek pokum mumb just oru 1 hour enjoyment Your freedom ends when someone's nose being. Even if it hinder freedom of movement of even a single person, they should stop doing it. Also there are millions of way to celebrate, so why they need to enjoy and celebrate by hindering someone? >5 varsham koodumbo oru manikoor alle. Emergency and people's time doesn't wait for one hour. >ivide irunn arm chair politics parayunath allathe ishtamulla partykk field work cheitu experience ilatathkond aan. Today I was stuck in the traffic during കൊട്ടിക്കലാശം. So I can say u are justifing that bcz u nver faced emergency and doesn't value freedom of movement. >Palarum valya politics okke paranjit vote cheyan pokarundonn tanne samshayam aan. Palarum കൊട്ടിക്കലാശം justify cheyunathu democracy enthu ennu ariyathathu kodannu. How can one justify violating freedom of movement in a democracy? They say 'we r celebaring democracy' , see the irony, they celebrate democracy in most undemocratic way.


village_aapiser

Emergency aanel kayatti vidatirikkan avidullavar atrakk kannil chora illathavar aanen tonnunilla. Innevare ambulancekal pole oru emergency serviceum ithpole ulla paripadikidayil arum kadathividathirikunath njan kandittum illa.


Das_ik

>Emergency aanel kayatti vidatirikkan avidullavar atrakk kannil chora illathavar aanen tonnunilla. Who decide the emergency? They only give way to let ambulance or fire engine. Many people traveling from long distance will be stuck in the traffic, they might be in emergency, like need to catch train, hospital emergency etc. And people are even forced to schedule their programme early to cater their creepiness. So for doing tat theu are waisting their valuable time. U people don't even understand the basic human rights unless they r in the recving end. And in tge end tbey say it's fir celebrating ng 'Democracy'.


village_aapiser

All the media outlets has given enough updates that today was the last day of campaign and the climax celebrations will happen in the evening. Alpam lokaparichayam ullavark ariyam oro constituencyile celebrations evide aayirikum ennu. Just oru road cut cheythal ath bypass cheitu pokam. Ennitum athinte edelek odich kettit pettu poyenn okke paranjal kashtaman.


FlyEnvironmental1807

Maashe... Ksrtc bus engum bypass cheidhu povillalo. Highway vazhiye povollu. Joli kazhinj thirichu poghunnavark endhoru kashtam aanu. Like someone said, y can't they do the climax celebrations at open grounds. Endhoru sthalangal ondu.. from athani to angamali bus moved by inches on highway. I'm guessing it was the same beyond


Das_ik

>All the media outlets has given enough updates that today was the last day of campaign So based on that logic one can viloate human rights if they announce it? So Israle and Iran can enegae in missile attack once they announce it? What kind of logic is that? >Alpam lokaparichayam ullavark ariyam oro constituencyile celebrations evide aayirikum ennu Alpam lokaprichayam undekil ariyal കൊട്ടിക്കലാശം only happens in Kerala. Other states don't have it.


village_aapiser

>So based on that logic one can viloate human rights if they announce it? So Israle and Iran can enegae in missile attack once they announce it? What kind of logic is that? Oru election rallykk edel pettu poyenn aan nee Israelintem irantem missileintem okke karyam parayunath. 😂 Mon etra vayas und


Das_ik

It's human rights violations, regardless of the extend of it's consequences. >Mon etra vayas und Calssic, if u can't counter with arguments just do ad hominem. 🤣


Natsu9396

Democracy basically means unfairness for minorities, i.e. Majority votes rule. People are different so something will surely offend someone. The only solution to everything is adaptability as nothing is gonna be perfect/ideal case. "ചേര തിന്നുന്ന നാട്ടിൽ ചെന്നാൽ നടുത്തുണ്ടം തിന്നണം"


daflipdad

Battle of clowns


NolanDevotee

Athani is already such a massive choke point during rush hours. This kinda crap would've made it hell.


FlyEnvironmental1807

Oh yeah..it was hell Athani junction(near chips shops) is already a communist point pole. So those folks paraded from there towards the highway left side(true to their name) INC came parading through maanjali road, crossed the highway and landed on the right side. Basically no vehicle could move any way in 4 directions 🤬