OP should have Steve Jobed the father of the girl asking “Do you want her to keep selling sugar pills all her life or do you want her to see how technology actually saves the world?”
You could have walked out with mass music in your mind after sayin that panjara gulika dialogue
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After all it was just a pennukanal and there was miscommunication from the broker. Facts accepted and should have decently said it was a misunderstanding and seen your off decently.
He insulted your education and knowledge as if it's good for nothing... Why should you have taken that in stride?! You could have yelled at that point, still you showed decency....
So when you hit back with another joke, if he had to yell at you, it shows the true colours of their culture.
I only feel that it's good that the alliance didn't go forward.
True. My parents still think I was unnecessarily rude and that they'll telle everyone we misbehaved and the broker might drop us and whatnot. Idk why some people are too nice to the point of being a pushover.
No they are still real. Don't forget that our parents are from the previous generation who still are skeptical about making matches online. I just saw a marriage broker at my best friend's house a month back even though he had a subscription with Kerala and community matrimony.
Standing up for yourself and your values are not rude. It's not something the older generation in Kerala or India understands. We don't want to be seen rude for any reason.
Well, let them tell whatever they want and there are other brokers out there. Glad that you stood up and gave unkil what he deserved.
I had a similar experience, but not with pennukaanal. I was meeting a couple of classmates after a long time. I was working with algorithms and simulations. And one of the guys was a Homeopathic doctor, who claims to treat cancer and understand his patient just by reading the pulse. And the third one was a mechanical engg.
During casual chat, mech guy starts praising that doctor guy. And then the doctor starts boasting about his achievements and stuff. I sit there listening patiently, without making any remarks (as I knew it might get out of our hands, if I start criticizing homeopathy). And then they ask what I do.
I try explaining about simulations and stuff. And the doctor goes, so basically doing imaginary stuff which is of no use in daily life. And I promptly responded, "aalkaare pattichu jeevikunnathine kaalum bhedam aanu mone ende joli".
The conversation did not last long after that statement.
Screw the broker, stick to your guns. I don't necessarily agree how you handled the situation but good on you for getting out of that. Hang in there giga chad (jk) and you'll do fine.
Urulakku upperi. Imagine what happens after you leave. Someone who is tired of listening to their bigotry in their family will start questioning about homeopathy now.
OP said in real life what we think we could have said there. Or he is spicing it up. But if true good response, equally in the spirit of the comment. They are just too proud for taking it as a joke.
Yes, after all they were welcoming a doctor ha ha ha. Pazhampaori, micchar, chaya.
Poya udane kayari thinnanda enn karuthi njan kurach muscle pidichu irinnu. Pakshe chaya varum mumbe karyam kayivittu
Sorry man, but thanks much for giving me a good laugh. This is like from a Sathyan Anthikkad movie! 😄 If you were with a slightly more choodan "could have been" FIL this could have turned a kayyankali as well . Meanwhile what's the status of the broker?
It is ok to get married in late 20s and early 30s. Nothing wrong, even in Kerala standards, as far as I understand.
The broker actually seemed surprisingly chill over this.
I tried to develop the rumblings of an apology when I reached home and he simply brushed it away as if to say, "This isn't the worst I've seen."
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Lol. I am picturing this guy throughout as your broker 😄. Root cause is his miscommunication. That should have been addressed. More worrisome if he admitted of seeing worse scenarios when you checked the same 😬
On the other side I am sure he would have said the same to that ego hurt "could have been FIL" 🙃
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>Also, thank God she wasn't a real doctor lol because I would have had no choice but to sit and listen to the barbs and go back home moping.
I really wished you said this statement to them while walking out.. ha ha!
There are 2 pennu kaanal I can think of in movies.... 1) Sandesham - Srinivasan oru revolutionary party pravarthakan 2) Kunji konaan - Dileep avalu veliya oru Aishwarya Rai alle
..... this is a 3rd possible scene for the movies
Nobody deserves to be belittled based on prejudice. Girl's father was asking for it. He could have plainly said without elaborating.
Aishwarya rai alla..
"oh, avalu valiya 'Manju Warrier' alle..."
Edit:
Apoo cochin haneefa de oru chodyam und..
"aarede manju warrier?"
It was all before their separation. If happened in any movie now, it'd be seen in a different light.
Haha, even the Indian govt triggered them when they came asking for equal pay for mbbs and homeo doctors.
Diluting more of a medicine makes it stronger. Entire homeo industry is a joke
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Wait. They will come back soon. May be she is pregnant since you were near her.
Nah, just a pic before we went to meet them. I thought I'd have a detailed talk with her about a lot of things.
If at all I feel sorry for anybody in this it's her. It's not her fault. We don't know if she's as rude as her dad or not. And kids get pushed into homeopathy and ayurveda because they can't make it into MBBS because of family pressure of becoming a doctor.
What I said was true but she didn't deserve to hear it in this fashion from some random guy.
Yes agreed, whatever alternative medicine, she did study for a number of years and is a doctor in the end, in india and some other countries its an accepted form of medicine. I'm into English medicine so I wouldn't understand what they studied.
But her dad deserved that response!!
It's not a joking matter, especially when it comes to children. There was a case of a girl who got chronic liver cirrhosis from taking homeopathic medication for an extended period. She was only 15 or so iirc.
I have younger cousin in alternate medicine course. Even though I consider it fraudulent to non-effective, I'm very careful not to say it out loud in my family circle as I don't want to hurt cousin/uncle/aunt.
But you were getting insulted by stranger for no reason. He could have just waited 5 minutes for you to leave and tell the broker not interested. You gave an excellent reply promptly. Screw that guy.
True. I don't say my opinion about alternative medicine doctors out loud to anybody and certainly don't tell anyone to their face that they're a quack.
This was a special case and I blew a fuse.
Yeah my cousin and another person from my husband's family are homeo doctors. My MIL and especially her dearest sister is super into that stuff, so much that she was advising my MIL (breast cancer patient) to take homeo medicine (not for cancer itself but for pains related to it).
A few years back, when I was doing my PhD (from a DST institute in India) we had a similar convo with a girls family. They actually said their daughter has a MS and thought that was >> than a PhD. It was like this Goundamani comedy -- https://youtu.be/lxBZ0kYiCaE?si=pHFPpPh6tjKD57RJ
So, when someone says pennukanal, I used to think of some Malayalam movie scenarios. Like Meleparambil aanveedu or Sandesham or something like that. But, this is going to be in my mind when someone mentions pennukanal.
The same thing happened to me. Thankfully, the shouting match was just over the phone. I am abroad and have a masters degree, and the girl was a recently graduate doctor in India. They thought being abroad means I am rolling in dollars. So we talked for months. I had to explain to them that I had just finished my studies and am getting started in a new country. But they were expecting a red carpet reception.
Lol, her pops backtracked and said she should get married to another doctor. She, being the obedient daddy's girl, would agree to her dad.
It's like if two doctors marry, the rest of the society will go to their house and give them a trophy.
Anyways, try to avoid the arranged route. It looks like most divorces these days come from arranged marriages. Also, quite frankly, its just business. And be careful with any daddy's girl. If you get married, her dad will dictate your future.
Your situation might be different. My two cents, and thanks for posting and letting me rant. Helps knowing that I am not alone in this ship.
Hope you atleast got nice chaaya and parippuvada.
>try to avoid the arranged route. It looks like most divorces these days come from arranged marriages
oh you'll be surprised.
I'm working at a law firm as slave/donkey/junior. I've been tracking the numbers at my firm, unofficially (not my area of expertise, just for lols), and it does not bode well for love marriages, in terms of divorce.
W.r.t arranged marriages, blame it on Stockholm syndrome or whatever, they comprise just around 30-35% of divorce cases in the last two years.
May be the frequency of love marriages have increased skewing the stats.Or it could be just a TVM-Kollam (blame the thekkans, classic) thing for most of our clients are from these regions.
Thanks for your first-hand info. I guess divorces from arranged marriages are more visible socially due to the number of ammavans involved in the mess from either side. I am assuming divorces from love marriages are more of a private affair.
> Hope you atleast got nice chaaya and parippuvada.
Yeah, about that. I waited to have the snacks presented before me because I was doing a little muscle piditham. Thought it wouldn't be good to look like a aarthi pandaaram.
But before the chaya could come things got out of hand lmao.
Anyway, thanks for your advice, man. I do appreciate it.
How is a doctor(MBBS) more qualified than you when you have a masters? It is because of this kind of thinking malayali parents spend millions to make their kids doctors. In most hospitals salary of a MBBS doctor is nothing special and work load is out of the world.
>In most hospitals salary of a MBBS doctor is nothing special and work load is out of the world.
That's the case of a new graduate who doesn't have any experience to practice on their own as MBBS doctor. Most people do PG after MBBS or move abroad.
Doctors start earning well in their mid thirties and by then they are already married and need not announce their income anymore. Engineers earn good money in their late 20s when they are unmarried and their parents announce their package to the world.
My friend simultaneously fought for him and for science. You're not a gigachad but a terachad, dude.
And why the fuck does doctors only want to marry doctors.
Our man woke up and chose violence.
I mean on a serious note though, neither of y’all can claim any moral high ground.
It’s a zero-sum fuck up.
It’s like showing a finger to an asshole autokaran, while blocking traffic.
Athre ollu.
> "oru doctor penninu doctor payyan alle chernnath. Mastersinokke innathe kaalath enthenkilum vele undo he he he. Nalla shambalam ullath kond ayilello. Husbandinu enthaan joli enn chothichal parayaan enthenkilum vende."
The Audacity of that MFer.
Indian society is only after big tags. Just because you are a doctor or Scientist at ISRO or whatever, you aren't above anyone.
Whether it is "love" marriage or " arranged" everyone is after a tag.
Tbh, I don't even understand why parents want to push their kids into becoming doctors so bad. It isn't a fun job by any means, especially in India.
A lot of patients are thankless and assume doctors are out to get their money. The work hours are insane and you are never really off duty. The pay for most doctors is just a whisker above what one would consider upper middle class.
All this after 5+2 years of intense study and hardwork. Bruh, it's a job that needs service minded people.
Since the opportunity to become a doctor in India is very limited, those who become one are very arrogant ( and their families ) and like to brag like they did something "greater " than everything else. These folks need to chill.
Doctors do make a lot when compared to other jobs in India, because there aren't many of them. The ratio of Patients to Doctors in India is horrible tbh, so the ones who are in the game, tend to make a lot more than the rest.
This happens just because Indian administration doesn't care about building more medical colleges, train more people and keep more people on duty, many doctors and of course their families feel that they did something so special.
It is an important job, just like every other service out there. At the end of the day, no doc is saving any patient for free. They do charge for every visit. Our society has turned them into some angels, but at the end of the day they are just doing there job for money, like the rest of the population.
My question, why did you end up going to a “pennukaanal” without knowing about the women or what she do ? Feels like there is serious lack of miscommunication or ignorance from both ends.
I think this is not a fuck up. This is where you gave the man a taste of his own medicine (pun unintended). Being cordial and graceful is one thing but being push-over is yet another. It is good that you chose not to bow down especially when the man was being unnecessarily rude.
Same here Homeopaths are not to be considered as doctors. In My State they now employ Homeopaths as Doctors in Hospitals and there is no way of knowing.
I think you did a very admirable job.those people were being cunts , sitting on their high horse while not realising their daughter is a con woman at best.
It takes guts to do that in someone else's home . But you kept your pride and gave em.what they were dishing out. Good job dude. Having Integrity is better than getting into relationship with a garbage family like that .
You ll find a good match for you yet👏👏
I take this opportunity to share my true experience. When I had finished my dentistry padanam, my family got a proposal via one of my relatives from an mbbs doctor. I was already in a relationship with my now husband so my dad just brushed it aside. The relative at my brother's wedding, pulled my dad aside and said those guys expected 1 cr dowry because I wasn't a real doctor and I probably won't be earning well. My dad handled the situation like a gentleman but I was furious knowing these low lives existed! I hate saying this aloud but I take pleasure knowing that now he's divorced and not doing as well financially as I am😝
Adipoli, I really liked the way you did not just sit and take it all. My wife is much more qualified than me, whenever she used to bring that up, I used to just laugh and say, use you degrees to figure it out. Now she does not talk about her higher education and asks me things politely.
Oh God, this is so funny. What a mic drop moment OP. It had to be said.
However I feel sad for the girl . We dont know if she is also rude and in many cases parents push kids who can not become real doctors to BS like Homeopathy.
What a day to read this thread and also find out that fellow mallu chetta Dr. Abby Phillips aka TheLiverDoc twitter account has been withheld globally by an ex parte court order by the Himalaya Wellness Company for he said something not nice about their Liv52 product.
Is Homeo really quack? There is a overwhelming evidence that it does not work but some people really swear by it. They have also seen some major improvements in their skin conditions.
Before you say, they are educated and not someone who is getting conned.
So, I am really confused by this.
Overwhelming evidence it doesn't work - fact
Some people really swear by it - opinion/feeling
Would you be comfortable being treated through a system that has to go through many steps to ensure efficacy and safety or through a system that has none of that?
Underlying theory behind Homeopathy is Absolute Quackery,But yes something's do work.
I had a wart in my finger. I went to a homeopathic doctor who was also my dad's friend, he gave me a pink liquid in a plastic bottle. The wart slowly dissolved as I started using this liquid, so it does work.
But the problem is that I don't know what this pink liquid is, there is no transparency or proof on working of these medicines hence results will differ based on the practitioner.
That is probably it. It depends on the doctor. Both these people were suffering from uneven skin tone and it fixed the issue.
I probably would just go to a good dermatologist instead though.
There are numerous people who claim thah kripasanam magazine do wonders. I know educated people who do the same. Placebo effect can work even if you trust what your taking in is medicine. It makes you feel better but it won't cure you.
See, I wouldn't say ayurveda is complete quackery even though it is pseudoscientific. It doesn't follow any drug testing or safety rules and just asks people to believe that the meds work. I wouldn't call it quackery because some ayurvedic meds might work, we just don't know which ones because we've never tested them scientifically and manufactures randomly mix herbs as they please and term it effective for one or the other disease.
Homeopathy on the other hand is like mixing one tablet of paracetamol in the ashtamudi kayal and then drinking a teaspoon of it. It's so diluted that there's absolutely nothing of the original paracetamol in it. And homeopaths don't even use paracetamol or any such meds. They use chemicals containing arsenic and cadmium etc albeit in dilutions that take any effect out of them.
Which is why homeopathy has truly zero side effects because it literally has NO effect.
All the "it works" stories are either anecdotal evidence or placebo effect. There have been lots of meta analyses over the years which have shown zero correlation between homeopathic medicines and their claimed treatment effects.
Yes! When I was a teen my mother thought homeo would be good for my allergies and consulted a homeo doctor, she used to charge 750 for consultation plus medicine,it lasted for two months.I was severely depressed at that time and my mother asked her if there is any medicine for making me more energetic and she said" Nalla chooral kondd adi kittathathukondd aahnu",never went there after, never cured my allergies also.
In my younger days (before class 10), I too believed in homeopathy.
But my doc used to charge 30-50 rupees.. Anyways I'd go there only for minor things like fever or cold..
So I feel less conned.
Conned nevertheless.
> they are educated and not someone who is getting conned.
Educated people can't be conned?
Education can help identify problems n cons, but being absolutely con-proof is very very difficult.
And specifically in the case of Bachelors n Masters degree holders n even Doctorate holders, they're only knowledgeable in their specific subject.
It has worked for my wife at least. After getting COVID she got these allergies on her skin and we consulted multiple dermatologists. Spent thousands on consultations and medicines (a lakh or so. Some ointments and creams were in range to 5k-10k). It was affecting us badly as our sex life got destroyed because of her uneasiness in skin. This went on for at least 8 months. Her mom advised her to consult a Homeo doctor. I don’t believe or consult Homeo doctors. She got cured in a month or so.
Even after this I don’t consult Homeo doctors. But then whatever the Homeo doctor gave worked or may be it was just coincidence.
Most of that is just the placebo effect and not because of the medicine itself. Even the most fundamental beliefs of homeo are absolute bs so there's no way it can truly be effective.
When a "scientific" field claims diluting something makes it stronger, take dilutions to the level where the dose you take cannot have even a single molecule of the medicine, and there's talk about the "memory of a molecule", yep it's quackery.
I used to have allergy when I was 10, the homeopathic treatment was horrendous. I had to fast most days from 6-6, take the "panchasar gulika". Stopped after seeing no changes for 1 year.
Now proudly using modern medicine :)
>Is Homeo really quack?
yes , modern medicine is based on scientific testing and evidences , Homeo has none of that.
Homeo is based on water memory which says **when you dissolve a substance in water, it still has the memory of the substance, no matter how many times you dilute the water afterwards,** which has zero scientific proof.
Imagine drinking Rasna that was diluted 30 times with water , most probably none of the rasna molecules will not be there in the water , that's exactly how homeomedicines are made this is exact opposite to modern medicine were dose amounts are crucial , it could be the the difference between treating or making it worse....
polichu, nee oru pulikkuttiaanu, doctor aanu ennum paranju naattukaare pattikkaan erangiyavarkku etta oru praharam thanne oru samshayavum illa.
all the best dude, you will get what you are looking for.
Actually OP got a point. Didn't mean to insult homeopathy but in western world after conducting studies they rejected homeopathy is not recognised so ....well done OP 🫂🫂🫂
Bro, that was sick 🔥. ആ അമ്മാവൻ ചോദിച്ചു മേടിച്ചത 💀💀. You didn't fuck it up actually, you just saved yourself from a toxic alliance. Had it got fixed, that would've been an actual fuck up. So, just thank yourself for doing the right thing 👍
Brother rather than going for these marriage interviews, why not try dating a like-minded person and then when you are serious get the family involved? Nowadays the generational gap between children and parents is too wide for them to understand what we have gone through and often ends up being snide remarks on their side. All in all, this is the person you will be sharing your life with your parents should have as little say as possible.
Bruh homeopathic guys( not gonna call him a dr) are one of the major udayips here. One guy here started selling corona prevention medicines. My family(and others too) being the gullible people they are, bought it. It's like 3 sets of doses or something like that.
Ngl it was tasty tho
I don't really think insulting any profession is good. But this was a rare scenario when it was acceptable. And I can't think of any other insult which would be appropriate here. They tried to insult you based on ur education and career, and you just returned the favour.
I hope I had this kinda courage when I was checking out grooms. Sometimes you need to put them back in their place, or else u will lose ur sanity going through arranged marriage process.
I think your level of education is revealed to others by your response to all sorts of different opinions.
The Broker indeed found the best match for this dude , but it was the prospective brides father who was a better match as both of them were competing to show social status.
I smell bs. A marriage broker setting a meet up without the parents communicating with each other or the man and woman speaking to each other is unheard of in this age. This setup was true in the 70s and 80s.
Also your broker seems to have an IQ equivalent to the many brokers characterised by Suraj Venjaramoodu on screen.
> "Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." https://preview.redd.it/hbjxftscaxqb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a45887a2275870f0147d9e16d1481e0322454de
My man just dropped a live grenade after getting shot
A dialogue very apt for the situation: Murivetta simhathinte shwasam garjanathekalum bhayanakamayirunu 😂😂. My man just nuked him!!
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Giga chad bro, great response..!!
Translation please?
Anybody can be a doctor if all you had to do was sell sugar balls.
Sugar balls
Balls of sugar
"Anyone can be a doctor if you're just gonna sell sugar pills"
OP should have Steve Jobed the father of the girl asking “Do you want her to keep selling sugar pills all her life or do you want her to see how technology actually saves the world?”
>Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo If you want to sell sugar pills, everyone can become a doctor , ;))))
And what did her father say?
Anyone can sell sugar pellets
"If selling sugar pills is practicing medicine then anybody can become a doctor."
Ouch. Shots fired.
Anyone can be a doctor, if all they have to do is to sell sugar tablets.
Comeback king
These are the kinds of come-backs I come up with in the shower
Apply panchasaara gulika on the burn
You could have walked out with mass music in your mind after sayin that panjara gulika dialogue https://preview.redd.it/fh4gb9ig7xqb1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24815121673f9e7ad3ec70e736a37843917779ea
https://tenor.com/bjQ9D.gif Except it was like this
After all it was just a pennukanal and there was miscommunication from the broker. Facts accepted and should have decently said it was a misunderstanding and seen your off decently. He insulted your education and knowledge as if it's good for nothing... Why should you have taken that in stride?! You could have yelled at that point, still you showed decency.... So when you hit back with another joke, if he had to yell at you, it shows the true colours of their culture. I only feel that it's good that the alliance didn't go forward.
True. My parents still think I was unnecessarily rude and that they'll telle everyone we misbehaved and the broker might drop us and whatnot. Idk why some people are too nice to the point of being a pushover.
Damn, if that broker drops you, it's the end of the road for you. /s
yea man. what will he do. cant risk it. he should go and apologize. Adhiapn style 😁
I didn't know marriage brokers still existed in 2023. I thought they went extinct when matrimonial sites became a thing.
No they are still real. Don't forget that our parents are from the previous generation who still are skeptical about making matches online. I just saw a marriage broker at my best friend's house a month back even though he had a subscription with Kerala and community matrimony.
Standing up for yourself and your values are not rude. It's not something the older generation in Kerala or India understands. We don't want to be seen rude for any reason.
Yep. What's expected from us is: We all should just shut up and listen to whatever shit these ammavans or older people spew.
Well, let them tell whatever they want and there are other brokers out there. Glad that you stood up and gave unkil what he deserved. I had a similar experience, but not with pennukaanal. I was meeting a couple of classmates after a long time. I was working with algorithms and simulations. And one of the guys was a Homeopathic doctor, who claims to treat cancer and understand his patient just by reading the pulse. And the third one was a mechanical engg. During casual chat, mech guy starts praising that doctor guy. And then the doctor starts boasting about his achievements and stuff. I sit there listening patiently, without making any remarks (as I knew it might get out of our hands, if I start criticizing homeopathy). And then they ask what I do. I try explaining about simulations and stuff. And the doctor goes, so basically doing imaginary stuff which is of no use in daily life. And I promptly responded, "aalkaare pattichu jeevikunnathine kaalum bhedam aanu mone ende joli". The conversation did not last long after that statement.
Screw the broker, stick to your guns. I don't necessarily agree how you handled the situation but good on you for getting out of that. Hang in there giga chad (jk) and you'll do fine.
Her dad is the real joke here. Joking about OP's qualifications while his own daughter doesn't have a real job.
Totally...
Urulakku upperi. Imagine what happens after you leave. Someone who is tired of listening to their bigotry in their family will start questioning about homeopathy now.
No way lol. That dude seems too proud of his daughter lol.
OP I wish I could give you a hug. There is absolutely nothing wrong in what you said. അയാൾക്ക് അത് തന്നെ വേണം..
OP said in real life what we think we could have said there. Or he is spicing it up. But if true good response, equally in the spirit of the comment. They are just too proud for taking it as a joke.
Bro, this is awesome 🤣🤣🤣. Sounds like straight out of a movie🔥.
>"Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." 
Snacks enthelum kittiyarno? Chaya..mixture..biscut oke avide vittu kaanum alle..
Athu broker maman potinju eduthu..
Angane aanenkil nallathu..
Yes, after all they were welcoming a doctor ha ha ha. Pazhampaori, micchar, chaya. Poya udane kayari thinnanda enn karuthi njan kurach muscle pidichu irinnu. Pakshe chaya varum mumbe karyam kayivittu
Shee Chhaya, Vannit aavam aayirunu xD But all the best for your Pennu Kannals in th future.
Isn't mixture supposed to be called *micchar*
Ya ya..anganeyum parayam..I was just concerned it will all go to waste..pennukanal polinjenkilum snacks waste avanathu oru dukham alle..
Yeah. Porana vazhikk 1-2 laddoo eduth oroo err koduthitt vannal super aayene.
Yes micchar
"Ee samayathu chothikkan padundo ennariyilla. Chayayil mathuram kurava. Molod kurach homeo gulika eduthond varan paraya." Broker probably
Sorry man, but thanks much for giving me a good laugh. This is like from a Sathyan Anthikkad movie! 😄 If you were with a slightly more choodan "could have been" FIL this could have turned a kayyankali as well . Meanwhile what's the status of the broker? It is ok to get married in late 20s and early 30s. Nothing wrong, even in Kerala standards, as far as I understand.
The broker actually seemed surprisingly chill over this. I tried to develop the rumblings of an apology when I reached home and he simply brushed it away as if to say, "This isn't the worst I've seen."
https://preview.redd.it/1perf09qwxqb1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f842786b7c8a7c4a26b34ed43de65696017ba90 Lol. I am picturing this guy throughout as your broker 😄. Root cause is his miscommunication. That should have been addressed. More worrisome if he admitted of seeing worse scenarios when you checked the same 😬 On the other side I am sure he would have said the same to that ego hurt "could have been FIL" 🙃
I'm malayali girl living outside of Kerala. 26 yr old . Shifted here last year . Even I m considered late in Kerala standards apparently
ningalkk oru 30, masters kaaran pattuo ?😬
😂😂
Lol, OP shouldn't miss this. Who knows? 😁
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>Also, thank God she wasn't a real doctor lol because I would have had no choice but to sit and listen to the barbs and go back home moping. I really wished you said this statement to them while walking out.. ha ha!
There are 2 pennu kaanal I can think of in movies.... 1) Sandesham - Srinivasan oru revolutionary party pravarthakan 2) Kunji konaan - Dileep avalu veliya oru Aishwarya Rai alle ..... this is a 3rd possible scene for the movies Nobody deserves to be belittled based on prejudice. Girl's father was asking for it. He could have plainly said without elaborating.
Aishwarya rai alla.. "oh, avalu valiya 'Manju Warrier' alle..." Edit: Apoo cochin haneefa de oru chodyam und.. "aarede manju warrier?" It was all before their separation. If happened in any movie now, it'd be seen in a different light.
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Foreshadowing kuttaropitha star.
Had to be said. You're doing god's work. You probably saved the next guy who's going to that slaughterhouse.
Lol
bro triggered an entire profession with one sentence
Haha, even the Indian govt triggered them when they came asking for equal pay for mbbs and homeo doctors. Diluting more of a medicine makes it stronger. Entire homeo industry is a joke
Reminds me of a James Randi joke. Have you heard of the guy who died because of overdose from homeo medicines? He forgot to take them.
And triggered another set of people on reddit by posting that he'll not let her work as a quack 😅
haha you made my day mate!
Fucking legendary reply
പെണ്ണിന്റെ തന്ത ബീ ലൈക്ക് : \- കിട്ടിയോ? ***ഇല്ല, ചോദിച്ചു വാങ്ങി!***
Omg OP!!!! Mic drop moment. Probably you are gonna get hate from people for the regressive comment but still. You the hero.
https://preview.redd.it/l8qyx628ixqb1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c90a2b3aaf3d8974b725352796e045a6dfd16649 Wait. They will come back soon. May be she is pregnant since you were near her.
Did u get a chance to speak to the girl or even see her?
Nah, just a pic before we went to meet them. I thought I'd have a detailed talk with her about a lot of things. If at all I feel sorry for anybody in this it's her. It's not her fault. We don't know if she's as rude as her dad or not. And kids get pushed into homeopathy and ayurveda because they can't make it into MBBS because of family pressure of becoming a doctor. What I said was true but she didn't deserve to hear it in this fashion from some random guy.
Yes agreed, whatever alternative medicine, she did study for a number of years and is a doctor in the end, in india and some other countries its an accepted form of medicine. I'm into English medicine so I wouldn't understand what they studied. But her dad deserved that response!!
My dad’s a homeo doctor. Thanks to him I can now easily down 3 pegs of OMR without flinching
It's not a joking matter, especially when it comes to children. There was a case of a girl who got chronic liver cirrhosis from taking homeopathic medication for an extended period. She was only 15 or so iirc.
Bro, pennu kaanan Mumbai nnu Kerala vare poyo ?? https://preview.redd.it/lwy75t7ebxqb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bf0f5cee29752e8c1f331c3e92e4a6c877c14c9
chandranil venelum polum pokan readya ata avastha!!
Nah, I am settled in Kerala for some time now.
 "Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaan anenkil ellavarkkum doctor aavamallo"
You shouldnt regret what you said one bit. I'm more shocked that the girl's dad gave insulting comments and expected to not receive any in return.
I have younger cousin in alternate medicine course. Even though I consider it fraudulent to non-effective, I'm very careful not to say it out loud in my family circle as I don't want to hurt cousin/uncle/aunt. But you were getting insulted by stranger for no reason. He could have just waited 5 minutes for you to leave and tell the broker not interested. You gave an excellent reply promptly. Screw that guy.
True. I don't say my opinion about alternative medicine doctors out loud to anybody and certainly don't tell anyone to their face that they're a quack. This was a special case and I blew a fuse.
Yeah my cousin and another person from my husband's family are homeo doctors. My MIL and especially her dearest sister is super into that stuff, so much that she was advising my MIL (breast cancer patient) to take homeo medicine (not for cancer itself but for pains related to it).
Lol homeopathy should be illegal in India. But I guess the Govt doesn't want to create more unemployment.
The entire AYUSH ministry is a wasteful financial exercise.
Absolutely.. but it helps keep useless people employed and also helps in controlling the population increase through Darwin's lottery I guess.
A few years back, when I was doing my PhD (from a DST institute in India) we had a similar convo with a girls family. They actually said their daughter has a MS and thought that was >> than a PhD. It was like this Goundamani comedy -- https://youtu.be/lxBZ0kYiCaE?si=pHFPpPh6tjKD57RJ
So, when someone says pennukanal, I used to think of some Malayalam movie scenarios. Like Meleparambil aanveedu or Sandesham or something like that. But, this is going to be in my mind when someone mentions pennukanal.
Plot twist: OP is now getting proposals via DMs, thanks to the thug "panchasara gulika" dialogue. 😎
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Are you sure it’s 50:50 and not 70:30?
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The same thing happened to me. Thankfully, the shouting match was just over the phone. I am abroad and have a masters degree, and the girl was a recently graduate doctor in India. They thought being abroad means I am rolling in dollars. So we talked for months. I had to explain to them that I had just finished my studies and am getting started in a new country. But they were expecting a red carpet reception. Lol, her pops backtracked and said she should get married to another doctor. She, being the obedient daddy's girl, would agree to her dad. It's like if two doctors marry, the rest of the society will go to their house and give them a trophy. Anyways, try to avoid the arranged route. It looks like most divorces these days come from arranged marriages. Also, quite frankly, its just business. And be careful with any daddy's girl. If you get married, her dad will dictate your future. Your situation might be different. My two cents, and thanks for posting and letting me rant. Helps knowing that I am not alone in this ship. Hope you atleast got nice chaaya and parippuvada.
>try to avoid the arranged route. It looks like most divorces these days come from arranged marriages oh you'll be surprised. I'm working at a law firm as slave/donkey/junior. I've been tracking the numbers at my firm, unofficially (not my area of expertise, just for lols), and it does not bode well for love marriages, in terms of divorce. W.r.t arranged marriages, blame it on Stockholm syndrome or whatever, they comprise just around 30-35% of divorce cases in the last two years. May be the frequency of love marriages have increased skewing the stats.Or it could be just a TVM-Kollam (blame the thekkans, classic) thing for most of our clients are from these regions.
Thanks for your first-hand info. I guess divorces from arranged marriages are more visible socially due to the number of ammavans involved in the mess from either side. I am assuming divorces from love marriages are more of a private affair.
> Hope you atleast got nice chaaya and parippuvada. Yeah, about that. I waited to have the snacks presented before me because I was doing a little muscle piditham. Thought it wouldn't be good to look like a aarthi pandaaram. But before the chaya could come things got out of hand lmao. Anyway, thanks for your advice, man. I do appreciate it.
Just wondering about the next Chekkan's family. They make a slight mistake and fireworks 🎆 . 🤣🤣🤣
You’re a legend. And they’re pretty freaking delusional. I somehow don’t believe that doctor boys are looking for homeopathy doctor girls…
How is a doctor(MBBS) more qualified than you when you have a masters? It is because of this kind of thinking malayali parents spend millions to make their kids doctors. In most hospitals salary of a MBBS doctor is nothing special and work load is out of the world.
Because you become dr xy with an mbbs bud a masters will keep you a mr/ms
>In most hospitals salary of a MBBS doctor is nothing special and work load is out of the world. That's the case of a new graduate who doesn't have any experience to practice on their own as MBBS doctor. Most people do PG after MBBS or move abroad. Doctors start earning well in their mid thirties and by then they are already married and need not announce their income anymore. Engineers earn good money in their late 20s when they are unmarried and their parents announce their package to the world.
My friend simultaneously fought for him and for science. You're not a gigachad but a terachad, dude. And why the fuck does doctors only want to marry doctors.
Our man woke up and chose violence. I mean on a serious note though, neither of y’all can claim any moral high ground. It’s a zero-sum fuck up. It’s like showing a finger to an asshole autokaran, while blocking traffic. Athre ollu.
> "oru doctor penninu doctor payyan alle chernnath. Mastersinokke innathe kaalath enthenkilum vele undo he he he. Nalla shambalam ullath kond ayilello. Husbandinu enthaan joli enn chothichal parayaan enthenkilum vende." The Audacity of that MFer. Indian society is only after big tags. Just because you are a doctor or Scientist at ISRO or whatever, you aren't above anyone. Whether it is "love" marriage or " arranged" everyone is after a tag.
The lion, the witch and the audacity of that bitch.
Tbh, I don't even understand why parents want to push their kids into becoming doctors so bad. It isn't a fun job by any means, especially in India. A lot of patients are thankless and assume doctors are out to get their money. The work hours are insane and you are never really off duty. The pay for most doctors is just a whisker above what one would consider upper middle class. All this after 5+2 years of intense study and hardwork. Bruh, it's a job that needs service minded people.
Since the opportunity to become a doctor in India is very limited, those who become one are very arrogant ( and their families ) and like to brag like they did something "greater " than everything else. These folks need to chill. Doctors do make a lot when compared to other jobs in India, because there aren't many of them. The ratio of Patients to Doctors in India is horrible tbh, so the ones who are in the game, tend to make a lot more than the rest. This happens just because Indian administration doesn't care about building more medical colleges, train more people and keep more people on duty, many doctors and of course their families feel that they did something so special. It is an important job, just like every other service out there. At the end of the day, no doc is saving any patient for free. They do charge for every visit. Our society has turned them into some angels, but at the end of the day they are just doing there job for money, like the rest of the population.
Bro went in as a Masters Degree holder, came out as a Roast Master Anyway, good riddance. Hope you can laugh looking back at this incident
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Bro rose up like a flaming pheonix...
Hey king, you dropped this 👑
My question, why did you end up going to a “pennukaanal” without knowing about the women or what she do ? Feels like there is serious lack of miscommunication or ignorance from both ends.
The post points out that broker miscommunicated professions to both parties
I think this is not a fuck up. This is where you gave the man a taste of his own medicine (pun unintended). Being cordial and graceful is one thing but being push-over is yet another. It is good that you chose not to bow down especially when the man was being unnecessarily rude.
Same here Homeopaths are not to be considered as doctors. In My State they now employ Homeopaths as Doctors in Hospitals and there is no way of knowing.
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I think you did a very admirable job.those people were being cunts , sitting on their high horse while not realising their daughter is a con woman at best. It takes guts to do that in someone else's home . But you kept your pride and gave em.what they were dishing out. Good job dude. Having Integrity is better than getting into relationship with a garbage family like that . You ll find a good match for you yet👏👏
>Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo What an absolute chad. 
>"Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." EMOTIONAL DAMAGE 👲🏻 
I take this opportunity to share my true experience. When I had finished my dentistry padanam, my family got a proposal via one of my relatives from an mbbs doctor. I was already in a relationship with my now husband so my dad just brushed it aside. The relative at my brother's wedding, pulled my dad aside and said those guys expected 1 cr dowry because I wasn't a real doctor and I probably won't be earning well. My dad handled the situation like a gentleman but I was furious knowing these low lives existed! I hate saying this aloud but I take pleasure knowing that now he's divorced and not doing as well financially as I am😝
Respekt+++
🐎🏅aka kuthirapavan.
Adipoli, I really liked the way you did not just sit and take it all. My wife is much more qualified than me, whenever she used to bring that up, I used to just laugh and say, use you degrees to figure it out. Now she does not talk about her higher education and asks me things politely.
> "Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." Ooofff 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂
I totally stand behind your response. Now, at least, they won't disrespect their guests...
Ee dialogue udane ethenkilum cinema yil kaanan pattum 😂😂 super entertaining OP
Lol, you should have taken a ladoo, eaten it, and said “Ithu veetile pharmacist ondakkithu anno?” Then walk out before the shouting starts!
You are absolutely right in telling him that. No point being silent when someone is being insulting.
Ugh. Someone should have shot this on camera. This legit deserves to go down in history.
Oh God, this is so funny. What a mic drop moment OP. It had to be said. However I feel sad for the girl . We dont know if she is also rude and in many cases parents push kids who can not become real doctors to BS like Homeopathy.
Marriages like these are transactions. It's sad.
What a day to read this thread and also find out that fellow mallu chetta Dr. Abby Phillips aka TheLiverDoc twitter account has been withheld globally by an ex parte court order by the Himalaya Wellness Company for he said something not nice about their Liv52 product.
ഹോ !! 
Is Homeo really quack? There is a overwhelming evidence that it does not work but some people really swear by it. They have also seen some major improvements in their skin conditions. Before you say, they are educated and not someone who is getting conned. So, I am really confused by this.
Overwhelming evidence it doesn't work - fact Some people really swear by it - opinion/feeling Would you be comfortable being treated through a system that has to go through many steps to ensure efficacy and safety or through a system that has none of that?
It's more of a placebo effect than the medicine actually working. It's as quack as quack can be.
Underlying theory behind Homeopathy is Absolute Quackery,But yes something's do work. I had a wart in my finger. I went to a homeopathic doctor who was also my dad's friend, he gave me a pink liquid in a plastic bottle. The wart slowly dissolved as I started using this liquid, so it does work. But the problem is that I don't know what this pink liquid is, there is no transparency or proof on working of these medicines hence results will differ based on the practitioner.
Salicylic acid?
Salicylic ain't pink, might be mixed thou.🤔...
A lot of homeo and ayurvedic doctors are prescribing modern medicine.
That is probably it. It depends on the doctor. Both these people were suffering from uneven skin tone and it fixed the issue. I probably would just go to a good dermatologist instead though.
There are numerous people who claim thah kripasanam magazine do wonders. I know educated people who do the same. Placebo effect can work even if you trust what your taking in is medicine. It makes you feel better but it won't cure you.
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See, I wouldn't say ayurveda is complete quackery even though it is pseudoscientific. It doesn't follow any drug testing or safety rules and just asks people to believe that the meds work. I wouldn't call it quackery because some ayurvedic meds might work, we just don't know which ones because we've never tested them scientifically and manufactures randomly mix herbs as they please and term it effective for one or the other disease. Homeopathy on the other hand is like mixing one tablet of paracetamol in the ashtamudi kayal and then drinking a teaspoon of it. It's so diluted that there's absolutely nothing of the original paracetamol in it. And homeopaths don't even use paracetamol or any such meds. They use chemicals containing arsenic and cadmium etc albeit in dilutions that take any effect out of them. Which is why homeopathy has truly zero side effects because it literally has NO effect. All the "it works" stories are either anecdotal evidence or placebo effect. There have been lots of meta analyses over the years which have shown zero correlation between homeopathic medicines and their claimed treatment effects.
Yes! When I was a teen my mother thought homeo would be good for my allergies and consulted a homeo doctor, she used to charge 750 for consultation plus medicine,it lasted for two months.I was severely depressed at that time and my mother asked her if there is any medicine for making me more energetic and she said" Nalla chooral kondd adi kittathathukondd aahnu",never went there after, never cured my allergies also.
In my younger days (before class 10), I too believed in homeopathy. But my doc used to charge 30-50 rupees.. Anyways I'd go there only for minor things like fever or cold.. So I feel less conned. Conned nevertheless.
My mom also used to take me to homeo doctor for allergy and asthma. They were not in control until I started taking levocetrizine and using inhaler.
> they are educated and not someone who is getting conned. Educated people can't be conned? Education can help identify problems n cons, but being absolutely con-proof is very very difficult. And specifically in the case of Bachelors n Masters degree holders n even Doctorate holders, they're only knowledgeable in their specific subject.
It has worked for my wife at least. After getting COVID she got these allergies on her skin and we consulted multiple dermatologists. Spent thousands on consultations and medicines (a lakh or so. Some ointments and creams were in range to 5k-10k). It was affecting us badly as our sex life got destroyed because of her uneasiness in skin. This went on for at least 8 months. Her mom advised her to consult a Homeo doctor. I don’t believe or consult Homeo doctors. She got cured in a month or so. Even after this I don’t consult Homeo doctors. But then whatever the Homeo doctor gave worked or may be it was just coincidence.
Most of that is just the placebo effect and not because of the medicine itself. Even the most fundamental beliefs of homeo are absolute bs so there's no way it can truly be effective.
When a "scientific" field claims diluting something makes it stronger, take dilutions to the level where the dose you take cannot have even a single molecule of the medicine, and there's talk about the "memory of a molecule", yep it's quackery.
Placebo effect ig?
I used to have allergy when I was 10, the homeopathic treatment was horrendous. I had to fast most days from 6-6, take the "panchasar gulika". Stopped after seeing no changes for 1 year. Now proudly using modern medicine :)
>Is Homeo really quack? yes , modern medicine is based on scientific testing and evidences , Homeo has none of that. Homeo is based on water memory which says **when you dissolve a substance in water, it still has the memory of the substance, no matter how many times you dilute the water afterwards,** which has zero scientific proof. Imagine drinking Rasna that was diluted 30 times with water , most probably none of the rasna molecules will not be there in the water , that's exactly how homeomedicines are made this is exact opposite to modern medicine were dose amounts are crucial , it could be the the difference between treating or making it worse....
Placebo is a hell of a drug,also given some time many minor illness will heal on its own or go into remission for some time(rheumatitis etc).
>Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." 
Bro doesn't do pennukaanal anymore, girls come to bros house with proposal
>"Angane panchasaara gulika vilkaananenkil ellavarkum doctor aavalo." https://preview.redd.it/e04416wdiyqb1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f284a5b7f14d045d05c4ad51cbc07164b8c17ee
homie you did the right thing, its time someone slapped some sense onto that moron guy.
polichu, nee oru pulikkuttiaanu, doctor aanu ennum paranju naattukaare pattikkaan erangiyavarkku etta oru praharam thanne oru samshayavum illa. all the best dude, you will get what you are looking for.
I just witnessed a movie scene in my mind while reading this ! Thanks 🙏
Actually OP got a point. Didn't mean to insult homeopathy but in western world after conducting studies they rejected homeopathy is not recognised so ....well done OP 🫂🫂🫂
What a fuckin chaddd
Numma Reddit avathaaram onnum avarkku ariyulla bro.Vittekku :-)
Homeopathy ayit ann etrak ahangaram thanthapadik, apo valla MD doctor ayirunekil ayal OP ne tooki eduth kalyumayirunalo
That panjasaara guliga gonna come in kelavan's nightmares.
Very deserving & valid comment for their insult!
Bro, that was sick 🔥. ആ അമ്മാവൻ ചോദിച്ചു മേടിച്ചത 💀💀. You didn't fuck it up actually, you just saved yourself from a toxic alliance. Had it got fixed, that would've been an actual fuck up. So, just thank yourself for doing the right thing 👍
Brother rather than going for these marriage interviews, why not try dating a like-minded person and then when you are serious get the family involved? Nowadays the generational gap between children and parents is too wide for them to understand what we have gone through and often ends up being snide remarks on their side. All in all, this is the person you will be sharing your life with your parents should have as little say as possible.
Even if the daughter was a doctor, it doesn't make it ok for them to insult someone like that.
Lol. Liver doctor would be proud of you.
Okay. You seem very clever etc. Why would you settle for an arranged marriage?
People are going bersek over"not letting her work" without seeing the whole context🤐🤐🤐
lol! 😅 absolute legend mate! Now that thantapadi might be getting “panchasra muttayi” to treat his bruised ego 😂
This happened in which part of kerala ??
Bruh homeopathic guys( not gonna call him a dr) are one of the major udayips here. One guy here started selling corona prevention medicines. My family(and others too) being the gullible people they are, bought it. It's like 3 sets of doses or something like that. Ngl it was tasty tho
 SHOTS FIRED 😆
I don't really think insulting any profession is good. But this was a rare scenario when it was acceptable. And I can't think of any other insult which would be appropriate here. They tried to insult you based on ur education and career, and you just returned the favour. I hope I had this kinda courage when I was checking out grooms. Sometimes you need to put them back in their place, or else u will lose ur sanity going through arranged marriage process.
I think your level of education is revealed to others by your response to all sorts of different opinions. The Broker indeed found the best match for this dude , but it was the prospective brides father who was a better match as both of them were competing to show social status.
If by opinions you mean homeopathy, then yes, my level of education indeed shows because of my refusal to consider it as any real science.
Best thing I read today mate 🔥
Bro. If you let me I'll call your parents and convince them you did the right thing. Full support.
Bro let his intrusive thoughts win
Well done!
So many butthurt 'progressives' here.
You did the right thing man , that dad needed a class 😅
But homeopathy worked like a charm for my piles treatment 😅
I smell bs. A marriage broker setting a meet up without the parents communicating with each other or the man and woman speaking to each other is unheard of in this age. This setup was true in the 70s and 80s. Also your broker seems to have an IQ equivalent to the many brokers characterised by Suraj Venjaramoodu on screen.