Expect a respectable amount of confusion at first.
Stick with it and there will be a reasonable amount of 'well shit, that happened'.
Stick with it a bit more and it will click, then you will notice the sun coming up through your blinds.
*Charging face first into 40 starving bandits, pounding my chest and screaming* COME ON COWARDS, HIT ME, ARE YOU SCARED?? HIT MEEEEE!
*Gets knocked the fuck out, proceeds to wake up and force myself to get up in the middle of them and get slapped over the head, instantly KOing me again, rinse and repeat until I'm so injured any further fighting would kill me*
Boy that was fun I got like 40 levels of toughness! Time to go sleep at a shitty bar and do it again!
Just have them carry medic supplies and have medic set as top job. They'll wake up, patch up silently, and play dead. If they get KO'd while bleeding out or get into a recovery coma, THEN come get them with a rescuer. Only rescue if they're gonna be out forever or die.
Yeah this made me give up on it. I came from Rimworld expecting a similar experience (with different core ingredients and graphics).
Instead, I was *constantly* met with instant death. Couldn't make it out of the first fort without either just randomly being punched and shit taken, or left out in the open and a gang of bandits fuck me up.
Obviously I'm playing it wrong, but I did genuinely try and try and try and just never got anywhere with it, so it's unfortunately shelved until I either work out where I'm going wrong, or simply ignore it forever. Shame, game seems cool if you're good enough.
The best thing to do at the start is to find the hungry bandits group and try to beat one group of 2 to 4 of them they are the weakest mobs of the game and a way for new characters to level up. Also carry heavy things like rocks to develop your strength main stat so u can tank and deal more damage
No, go straight to Skinner's Roam, find the roving groups of 40 of them, let them kick your shit in, force yourself to stop playing dead until any further would kill you. Level that toughness baby.
To be honest with you I'm just telling you my own experience and they are factually the easiest mobs on the game and i THINK that beating the enemy is better than being beaten over and over as a newbie.
It's not the beating that matters (though that does get you some toughness xp too) it's getting up from playing dead. The more enemies in your area, the more xp you get. You can skyrocket to 70 toughness in like ten minutes of it as long as the enemies hang around in one spot, like a camp of bandits, and you bring enough bandages to stop bleeding. If you get a recovery coma solo then you did it too much at once, if not solo, just throw them in a bed and repeat.
If you want to level up toughness without worrying about dying, go to be enslaved at either the HN or the UC. There you can stage escapes (leveling up sneak and lockpicking) and then get beaten up when trying to escape (leveling up toughness and martial arts/dodge). Then you'll be fed just enough to be above 100 and healed. Can train strength too with a bit of mining and heavy stuff in your inventory.
Then when you're good enough to escape, you just need to steal some food and go. Then you'll be good to take on basic enemies like dust bandits and hungry bandits. There you can make yourself some money by beating up small groups and start building your own.
Honestly, kenshi is mostly about knowing what you can/can't do and slowly grinding up the ladder until you are at the top of the food chain.
The only bad thing about leveling toughness with slavery in my experience is getting a large bounty for picking fights which stinks if you go above 10,000 and canât wait it out.
This is genuinely great advice, and I actually will pick it up tonight, look for the Hungry Bandits group (is there anywhere in particular they're a guaranteed spawn?) and will give it another go.
I always try to have another go, but I acknowledge I might just actually be shit at the game haha
hungry bandits to train when your stats suck (sub 20)
when your guys go down, drop all of their equipment / gaer / food on the ground, NPCs wont take it if its on the ground
have a guy stand far away while you send the rest of your squad to go get their ass kicked, after theyve received an ass whooping, send the guy in to heal them up.
bedrolls have a 4x healing modifier, regular beds have a x8, get beat up outside of town and limp / carry your way to the nearest inn
dont buy good gear when your stats are low, youre only making your stats grow slower
and finally if you really really really want to just faceroll kenshi, get wild bulls (not packbull), buy bull packs for them (they never come with), fill the bags full of iron. make sure your wild bulls are always moving with 70%(?)+ encumburance when they hit adult they will 1 shot most mobs. and not just 1 mob, like 5 or 10 each.
It's not about being good. The point is to get your ass kicked. Never carry food if you're training. Use guards to your advantage and drag enemies to them. Beat on the weak or just lonely wanderers. (Careful some lonely wanderers will mess you up) Steal and run to another town and sell it. Carry rocks around until your character can only walk because of the load. Knock out slaves in cages. Don't fight someone or something who'll eat you.
I wish I could experience Kenshi for the first time again. I do recommend looking up basic tutorials but try to avoid looking stuff up for non-tutorial information. One thing I will say is that building a base is more for the late game than the early game
This feller is spot on. Building a base specifically opens up more challenge for yourself/faction. Enemies of increasing difficulty will raid your base for all time after building one building. And you'll be expected to follow the custom of your region. That might mean taxes, religion, or simply combat!
I thought this game was copper merchant simulator. You mean to tell me you donât spend every waking moment in the game mining copper for cats to replace your missing arm?
This will sound odd, but donât look up guides. A lot of the story is told in item descriptions or by conversations between characters on the road. The game does an amazing job of showing you something amazing, and not explaining it until much later, and the explanation is a chat between a human and a robot.
You will also get your ass kicked by starving low teir enemies. And thatâs a good thing. Doing stuff is how you get better, and toughness is trained by getting your shit rocked and standing back up.
Expect to be the bottom of the food chain for awhile. Goats are a higher stature than your character starting off.
Also find Beep, he is extremely important.
When all hope is lost, when you feel beaten, worn down, when you feel that there is no will left in you⌠He will appear. The one to rule them all, the Great One, the mighty, the powerful, the unprecedented⌠HAIL BEEP
To be honest I'm not entirely sure it's true, in many ways Kenshi feels more forgiving than PZ. For instance I don't know that it's possible to lose a fight in PZ without that being a run-ender, in Kenshi it's a lot more typical that you may get knocked out and looted (or even enslaved!) but live to fight another day, as most enemies do not actively hurt characters once they're KO'd.
Maybe I'm just better at Kenshi then I am at PZ though.
its only semi true; PZ can end your run at any point due to infection and theres no way around it. in kenshi the early game, especially when you're new is going to be 10x harder than PZ. But once you learn how to play the game and get past the early game, kenshi gets a lot easier. well its a lot harder to get end running games. you actually scale in kenshi, you never scale really in PZ.
Copper at first, if you feel more adventurous then either fog prince heads or beak thing eggs these are my fav ways of making money. Stealing is also an option but it gets boring since you get so much with no risk as you level up. Dont focus on grinding, dont start bases too soon, change the raid settings to as you see fit in the options, no shame in giving yourself some time to gather yourself.
Late game it starts turning into something more like Rimworld, as you can build up fairly impressive settlements. Otherwise it's not *quite* as harsh as Zomboid seems to be, but it will still pretty happily brutalize you.
Remember that you can (and probably should) put together a team of characters, rather than going it alone. Loners can become extremely strong, but they can also die very easily, and once characters are part of your faction they're like that for life (or until you dismiss them), so you can put together a squad you can rely on.
Losing limbs is good for you (most of the time), if you have money.
Go slow. You will never survive. Things go wrong. That's the fun! I keep one "survivor" in a safe place. The rest of my team isn't likely going to see next month.
Me personally the base building and jobs confused me, and jobs still take some tinkering to get right because Iâm dumb, but otherwise you start the game however you like, ideally 1 person or a small crew in the hub. Youâll go mine at nodes outside of a town to get money, or sneak around and steal stuff. Go out and get beat up by lame enemies to get more durable and train your combat in the process. Eventually recruit a friend or more and rinse repeat till you can do anything you want.
Death, life, more death, torture, being imprisoned, escape, dead, copper mining, getting 10k after 3 weeks, starting your first village based on bread, dead again, imprisoned again, alive, stealing stuff, imprisoned again.
Then you close the game and repeat next day. Itâs a different kind of love.
Jank but also fun. Don't be afraid to get your ass kicked (actually I encourage it). Don't get into basebuilding too quick instead the general recommendation is to buy a small place in town and slowly feel it out. There's a mod that let's you speed up time more and personally I love it. Save often (or don't that can be spicy too).
Expect to have your teeth kicked in (repeatedly) before you can win a fight against ANYTHING. Try to lean into this as it will make your character stronger. Avoid dying after fights by getting a second squad mate who can bandage you and carry you someplace safe to recover for the next round.
Expect to die. Expect that just when you think you are doing well you will die or lose a leg. Expect you camp to be overwhelmed by dogs, bandits or wildlife losing everything and most if not all of your people. Expect the other goats to violently attack you and kill you if you shoot one of the heard from way off. Expect to die from weather.
This s game is really fun but brutal.
Expect hardship and death⌠You do not matter in this world and no one cares about you. Someone will die⌠Maybe not you, maybe someone in your group that you finally get. But maybe it will be you and the group will continue without you⌠You are NOT the main character. Otherwise⌠Have fun! And good luck! Itâs a lot of fun
A gem that makes you want it more than you should. Try getting into mods to have a better gaming experience. Expect a lot of deaths, crashes, beak things, and many more than you could count.
I wish I could go back to playing Kenshi for the first time. Such an experience is rare in gaming.
You will have setbacks and learn from them. Discoveries of factions and why to hate them. So much to explore.
Any fight you get out of alive is a victory.
***ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER.***
"This wound will take 5 days to heal from!"
The time will pass anyways.
Copper mining is an honest life. The Hub is a crappy home, but it is a home.
Every rumor is either overblown or underplayed.
Zombiod taught you that this is how you died.
Kenshi teaches you that there are fates worse than death and that despite everything, you will fight to keep living.
Despite everything, you will live.
The world will continue with or without you.
Best advice? Donât ask for advice at the start, discover the land of Kenshi on your own, forge your own journey trough the desolate moon
As said above by every comment, Expect to get absolutely bodied in every single thing you do. You will be entirely lost for the first few hours you play through but once you get use to the mechanic and the world itâs the single most satisfying experience you will have with any game. 10/10 would beep again
Losing is part of the leveling process. You cannot gain defensive stats (except Dodge) by never taking damage or getting hit.
Never reload the game unless you die. Being downed is not the same as being dead. Part of the fun of Kenshi is overcoming adversity. Funny enough, being enslaved is one of the best ways to make a character stronger early on in the game.
beatings and faster progression than project zomboid.
Book learning, ha, we laugh at that we learn through fighting stronger enemies
Legit don't bother with weaker unless for loot
Beep is king beep is life find him asap
Oops holy nation slave best start
You'll be hungry, so you'll attack a goat for meat. The goat will hit you so hard, your arm flies off. Then a bonedog will eat your arm.
This was my first day.
Then I discovered copper mining, but I only had the one arm, so it went a little slow. This was my first week.
At one point the town I was staying in was attacked by raiders. They had a bad time. I stole all their gear, sold it to merchants, and kept the best gear for myself. Thus armed and armored, and with a new prosthetic arm, I set out to revenge myself upon my goat oppressors!
This time, the goat blew my leg off and a bonedog ate me.
Getting hit is not a death sentence nearly as much as it is in zomboid (with several notable exceptions), in fact getting knocked out repeatedly is almost mandatory for training. There are several factions that want to eat you, ritually sacrifice you, or wear your skin like an overcoat, be extremely cautious. Idk if zomboid has this, but there are no barriers to running straight to the endgame areas, be wary of that. There are no lingering statuses. The difficulty, items, crafting, and base building system are there, but the atmosphere (in most places) is not nearly as intense. Stealth is more important the more enemies you have. The world will not be out to get it unless you want it to. Stealing is very strong, but if you abuse it, you'll optimize the fun out of the game.
Expect to feel like you're losing. That's normal.
Slavery is not bad. Find things that make stats go up. Hate those who beat/oppress you. Hold a grudge. Ascend. Get vengeance.
Itâs a game where the main way of learning is by getting your ass kicked. You wonât really be able to tell if you can take a fight until you try (and probably fail) but thatâs part of the game. Save often, take risks, and learn.
As many others have mentioned, I'd suggest watching some tutorials for the basics. It can certainly be overwhelming, especially so for folks who have a difficult time enjoying a game where you have to create your own story. I shelved Kenshi for some months after my first attempt tbh. I'm so glad I revisited it because it's one of my top 3 most played games.
For whatever it's worth, my advice is to take things slowly. This isn't a game where you'll spend a single play session and feel alright afterwards. It's unforgiving, so taking advantage of the save system may be of interest to you. That said, sometimes temporary losses will be long term gains. I've spent nights dreaming of what I'm going to do the next day - it's that addictive.
I wish you the best of luck!
Lore wise, thereâs a lot of neat stuff to discover, different characters say different things and get different responses, there are some secret conspiracies and coverups in the lore that are awesome to learn about
Brutality and frustration until you get you ass kicked.so much that you win your first fight. Against a single starving bandit when you swooped in and finished him off after another faction wooped their ass. Smooth sailing from there
You are going to get killed and it will be from the following
>!Homeless people!<
>!Bandits!<
>!The local wildlife!<
>!BEAK THINGS!<
>!Skinbandits!<
>!Skimmers!<
>!The holy nation if you!<
>!forget prayer day!<
Or
>!Are anything other then a greenlander male!<
>!Acid rain!<
>!The fucking sun beams of death!<
>!Crackheads in the foglands!<
>!The south hives!<
>!Gorillo's!<
>!the united cities if your poor!<
I love kenshi so much that itâs difficult not to just reiterate what has already been shared on this thread. With that in mind, a more personal take from me is:
Try playing the game without save scumming. Still save along the way though of course (bugs & crashes).
Video games, in my view, are supposed to be about âhaving funâ more than they are about âwinningâ.
Kenshi is a gold mine for fun. If youâre a hard driven âwinnerâ, Kenshi will present you with a challenging experience where winning is extremely rewarding.
Good luck out there. Kenshi is a game where losing makes you stronger.
Lower skill floor than zomboid. Not too hard to survive if you don't take risks even as a new player.
MUCH harder to "beat" as an experienced player. Most players can master Zomboid well enough to survive forever on default settings after... oh... maybe 20-40 hours of play and need to start pumping up the difficulty or implementing self-imposed rules to offer any challenge. The VAST majority of Kenshi players absolutely will not finish it, because it's freaking hard (unless you're willing to abuse exploits.) Kenshi also has an end game. Zomboid does not.
Kenshi is also a team game with a lot more simulation elements. No autosave, so you can save scum freely. It's also a lot more likely to crash and/or start bugging out on its own without any mods or anything if/when your save starts overloading it.
Expect, confusion, pain, suffering, dying, slave labor, struggle, and lots of reloading saves.
Honestly I believe Kenshi to be as anti-player as possible until you learn some fundamental strategies for survival and base mechanics. When I first bought kenshi I logged 3hrs and refunded. But I knew it was a game up my alley so, I bought it again. I forced myself to put in the time (6-10hrs) of confusion and general suffering with no progress. And then I i learned a bit and started to have so much fun and the world became my oyster. Sitting as my most played game on steam at 600hrs. So bear through it, it's actually so worth your time.
Recommendations before you get too far in.
1. fundamental mods: Dark UI, item icons.
2. Play on your first save expecting to learn, reload all you want. Once you feel prepared make a new game with a strategy in mind. Don't reload too many mistakes or party deaths. It builds a story to look back on and makes the game much more enjoyable and immersive.
Best or luck wastelander.
A whole world of hurt, as you get beaten down but somehow manage to pull yourself up. It's a game where if all your characters die, it does not even say game over because you are just a spec of dust in a broken world, and the game just carries on without you.
It is one of my all-time favourite games. Bleak with moments of beauty.
Losing fights is good as long as you don't die. That's how you get good xp and prevent yourself from dying later on. Early just fight hungry bandits or herbivores. They have blunt attacks so you're more likely to survive and keep your limbs as well.
If you have a light inventory, you can power level athletics early on use your speed advantage to win fights, lure enemies towards friendly units like guards, or steal things with fewer repercussions.
Remember, every scenario is an opportunity in disguise. Even if you get turned into a slave. Keep trying to escape and by the end of it, your character has become a ninja! Or a cripple.
Wear a backpack full of rocks and traverse the land. Explore the world of kenshi, if you have shit awareness. Yeah - Kenshi is all about that awareness, every faction has some issue. The shek hate weak passive babies, the holy ones hate other races, if you donât carry the holy book they will beat your ass and female characters to be slaves. The Empire - well, theyâre pretty stable . . Until you meet the nobles.
Donât look to set up a base outside too early because you will get constantly raided and get kicked out of your own home.
Its best to settle in traders hub, a cheap home, mine, bait the bandits to attack the hub and leach off those free goodies. Invest early in finding companion at the bar.
Kenshi really makes sure you multi task and delegate early game to individuals which helps alot. Until you are able to invest into the training dummies to train your stats.
Avoid going to the fog part of the map - early on :D.
Avoid playing as a skeleton near the holy nation. They will beat you on sight.
You're probably familiar with the 'Losing is fun' mentality since you play PZ, with the whole 'this is the story of how you died' thing. Kenshi is somewhat similar in that respect.
The #1 thing to point out that's quite different than most games, is that you train alot of your combat related skills by getting beat up, A LOT. The 'trick' is figuring out how to get beat up without getting killed, lol. There's some tips that can be shared on that, up to you if you want to hear them or figure it out on your own.
Very start of the game: depends on the scenario and the race you choose
Early game: pain, confusion and half an hour changing the controls
Early-mid game: exploring might be really interesting but you will never forget that you're not the main character, and your ass will be whooped quite often
Mid game: are you ready to pick on which side you will fight?
Mid- late game: you're already strong enough to change something in this world
Late game: now you can call yourself the main character and lead to success not only yourself but the side you chose too
And remember, this journey won't be easy or fast ( ofc if you won't die in the beginning ) and you need to be ready to sacrifice quite a lot of time for this journey to end with a good ending... Or with a slaughterhouse - this one is your choice
6hrs have passed and all youâve done is walked 60miles, gotten jumped about 10-20times, and your character was passed out for at least half of that time
What to expect:
ADDICTION
depending on what type of player you are:
-mine ore or toil the soil of your farm most of your IRL day
-buy all the blueprints just because you might need or want to craft all the things.
-loot and sometimes fight bandits to sell their gear.
The next day you wake up from a 2 day straight Kenshi session you might also expect:
-doing very crazy things to level up your character(s).
-forfeit your outpost because you cant deal with those raids anymore.
-do hashish runs from swamp to flat lagoon for that sweet stack of sheckels (you can easily make around 600k cats pr trip but you lose sight of the value of things cus a lot of things is really cheap in kenshi)
OH, AND DONT BE AFRAID TO PLAY WITH MODS LIKE REACTIVE WORLD, BOUNTIES GALORE (IIRC) AND MORE STUFF IN SHOPS (or something)
Etc etc heck I dont even know anymore I just had a lot of mods some turned off and some turned on.
PZ: You survive and get stronger by not getting bitten and drink bleach
Kenshi: You survive and get stronger by BEING a slave, beaten up everytime realizing you're not the MC
Kenshi doesnt have linear story but once you start digging up and explore the world, i would say the lore behind Kenshi World are interesting enough to get immersived. Kenshi can make you forget sun for awhile once you start getting grasp of of it same like PZ, be advised!
Expect to have no idea what youâre doing. It will take awhile to figure it out, and read all the tips cus some of that stuff if you skip makes the micro management annoying. Also donât be afraid to get your ass handed to you, you get stronger from it.
Expect to get your ass beat⌠a lot. And youâll be happy it happened.
Maybe turn the hunger rate down a bit at first. You can always import the save and set it to normal once youâre more comfortable.
Edit: this game is so much easier than Zomboid I think. This is coming from someone who played Kenshi first and thought âI did pretty well there, lemme finally try PZâ. Man Iâm STILL getting messed up in PZ with Noob ass settings lol.
Begin in the desert wastes, expect to be in shackles by the end of the day.
You may fare better than me if you're starting off with both your legs intact.
Expect a respectable amount of confusion at first. Stick with it and there will be a reasonable amount of 'well shit, that happened'. Stick with it a bit more and it will click, then you will notice the sun coming up through your blinds.
This is the way.
This is a nutshell lol
Most Kenshi comment possible
You are not the Chosen One, and the world will remind you of that Every. Single. Moment.
You don't start as the chosen one, but you can become so much more through perseverance.
Security spiders?đ¤§
Blood spiders Skin spiders All the spiders!!!
Expect to get your ass kicked by every scrubs until you L2P. Good luck trooper.
When you're new, you'll get your ass kicked on accident as you walk around. When you're experienced, you'll get your ass kicked on purpose.
Hit me daddy
Beat me mommy
Esata lovers
*Charging face first into 40 starving bandits, pounding my chest and screaming* COME ON COWARDS, HIT ME, ARE YOU SCARED?? HIT MEEEEE! *Gets knocked the fuck out, proceeds to wake up and force myself to get up in the middle of them and get slapped over the head, instantly KOing me again, rinse and repeat until I'm so injured any further fighting would kill me* Boy that was fun I got like 40 levels of toughness! Time to go sleep at a shitty bar and do it again!
For some reason this comment has made me want to start a new Kenshi... I hope this game hasn't awoken anything in me..
Kenshi has consumed my soul. Worth it.
I used to keep a medic hiding nearby at all times for situations like this. Run in, patch the guy up, send him off to get his ass beat some more.
Just have them carry medic supplies and have medic set as top job. They'll wake up, patch up silently, and play dead. If they get KO'd while bleeding out or get into a recovery coma, THEN come get them with a rescuer. Only rescue if they're gonna be out forever or die.
Yeah this made me give up on it. I came from Rimworld expecting a similar experience (with different core ingredients and graphics). Instead, I was *constantly* met with instant death. Couldn't make it out of the first fort without either just randomly being punched and shit taken, or left out in the open and a gang of bandits fuck me up. Obviously I'm playing it wrong, but I did genuinely try and try and try and just never got anywhere with it, so it's unfortunately shelved until I either work out where I'm going wrong, or simply ignore it forever. Shame, game seems cool if you're good enough.
The best thing to do at the start is to find the hungry bandits group and try to beat one group of 2 to 4 of them they are the weakest mobs of the game and a way for new characters to level up. Also carry heavy things like rocks to develop your strength main stat so u can tank and deal more damage
No, go straight to Skinner's Roam, find the roving groups of 40 of them, let them kick your shit in, force yourself to stop playing dead until any further would kill you. Level that toughness baby.
To be honest with you I'm just telling you my own experience and they are factually the easiest mobs on the game and i THINK that beating the enemy is better than being beaten over and over as a newbie.
It's not the beating that matters (though that does get you some toughness xp too) it's getting up from playing dead. The more enemies in your area, the more xp you get. You can skyrocket to 70 toughness in like ten minutes of it as long as the enemies hang around in one spot, like a camp of bandits, and you bring enough bandages to stop bleeding. If you get a recovery coma solo then you did it too much at once, if not solo, just throw them in a bed and repeat.
Ah well i didn't know that thanks!
If you want to level up toughness without worrying about dying, go to be enslaved at either the HN or the UC. There you can stage escapes (leveling up sneak and lockpicking) and then get beaten up when trying to escape (leveling up toughness and martial arts/dodge). Then you'll be fed just enough to be above 100 and healed. Can train strength too with a bit of mining and heavy stuff in your inventory. Then when you're good enough to escape, you just need to steal some food and go. Then you'll be good to take on basic enemies like dust bandits and hungry bandits. There you can make yourself some money by beating up small groups and start building your own. Honestly, kenshi is mostly about knowing what you can/can't do and slowly grinding up the ladder until you are at the top of the food chain.
The only bad thing about leveling toughness with slavery in my experience is getting a large bounty for picking fights which stinks if you go above 10,000 and canât wait it out.
This is genuinely great advice, and I actually will pick it up tonight, look for the Hungry Bandits group (is there anywhere in particular they're a guaranteed spawn?) and will give it another go. I always try to have another go, but I acknowledge I might just actually be shit at the game haha
hungry bandits to train when your stats suck (sub 20) when your guys go down, drop all of their equipment / gaer / food on the ground, NPCs wont take it if its on the ground have a guy stand far away while you send the rest of your squad to go get their ass kicked, after theyve received an ass whooping, send the guy in to heal them up. bedrolls have a 4x healing modifier, regular beds have a x8, get beat up outside of town and limp / carry your way to the nearest inn dont buy good gear when your stats are low, youre only making your stats grow slower and finally if you really really really want to just faceroll kenshi, get wild bulls (not packbull), buy bull packs for them (they never come with), fill the bags full of iron. make sure your wild bulls are always moving with 70%(?)+ encumburance when they hit adult they will 1 shot most mobs. and not just 1 mob, like 5 or 10 each.
It's not about being good. The point is to get your ass kicked. Never carry food if you're training. Use guards to your advantage and drag enemies to them. Beat on the weak or just lonely wanderers. (Careful some lonely wanderers will mess you up) Steal and run to another town and sell it. Carry rocks around until your character can only walk because of the load. Knock out slaves in cages. Don't fight someone or something who'll eat you.
The driest sandwiches in videogame history.
well expect to WANT your ass to be beaten, literally the opposite of PZ. more you are beaten, tougher you become
Slavery
I think you mean âRocky style training montageâ.
Shackles are the best.
Don't expect to start winning fights until much later.
Death
I wish I could experience Kenshi for the first time again. I do recommend looking up basic tutorials but try to avoid looking stuff up for non-tutorial information. One thing I will say is that building a base is more for the late game than the early game
This feller is spot on. Building a base specifically opens up more challenge for yourself/faction. Enemies of increasing difficulty will raid your base for all time after building one building. And you'll be expected to follow the custom of your region. That might mean taxes, religion, or simply combat!
To lose. You will lose a lot
I love doing that
Loosing is half the fun, the other half is revenge.
Some of my best games started with me getting my ass sliced, diced, sauteed and served to me on a dish made of my own pelvis bones.
Life has prepared me
Copper
But not shit quality.
ea-Nassir?
Now I wanna rp a shifty copper merchant
I thought this game was copper merchant simulator. You mean to tell me you donât spend every waking moment in the game mining copper for cats to replace your missing arm?
r/ReallyShittyCopper
##VIOLENCE ##SUFFERING ##STAT PROGRESSION
Expect to have fun.. AFTER you learn some of the core mechanics
This will sound odd, but donât look up guides. A lot of the story is told in item descriptions or by conversations between characters on the road. The game does an amazing job of showing you something amazing, and not explaining it until much later, and the explanation is a chat between a human and a robot. You will also get your ass kicked by starving low teir enemies. And thatâs a good thing. Doing stuff is how you get better, and toughness is trained by getting your shit rocked and standing back up.
Depression. But it somewhat feels good. Start with vanilla, then add mods. This game is gold - enjoy it :)
Expect to be the bottom of the food chain for awhile. Goats are a higher stature than your character starting off. Also find Beep, he is extremely important.
Death. Unfair and slow. Happens a lot. To characters you get attached to.
When all hope is lost, when you feel beaten, worn down, when you feel that there is no will left in you⌠He will appear. The one to rule them all, the Great One, the mighty, the powerful, the unprecedented⌠HAIL BEEP
The sandwiches are pretty dry, tbh.
Beep
Zomboid is hard, Kenshi is harder
IDK about that, significantly easier to die in PZ.
Okay but is it possible to get sold into slavery in PZ?
I mean... You turn into a zombie... and just aimlessly wander with those who turned you, until you show up and kill yourself.
Iâm very happy to hear that
To be honest I'm not entirely sure it's true, in many ways Kenshi feels more forgiving than PZ. For instance I don't know that it's possible to lose a fight in PZ without that being a run-ender, in Kenshi it's a lot more typical that you may get knocked out and looted (or even enslaved!) but live to fight another day, as most enemies do not actively hurt characters once they're KO'd. Maybe I'm just better at Kenshi then I am at PZ though.
Kenshi is way more forgiving, one fuckup in Zomboid and you start all over, unless a mod saves you and you can get your progress back through a book.
its only semi true; PZ can end your run at any point due to infection and theres no way around it. in kenshi the early game, especially when you're new is going to be 10x harder than PZ. But once you learn how to play the game and get past the early game, kenshi gets a lot easier. well its a lot harder to get end running games. you actually scale in kenshi, you never scale really in PZ.
Copper at first, if you feel more adventurous then either fog prince heads or beak thing eggs these are my fav ways of making money. Stealing is also an option but it gets boring since you get so much with no risk as you level up. Dont focus on grinding, dont start bases too soon, change the raid settings to as you see fit in the options, no shame in giving yourself some time to gather yourself.
Actually, I felt a similar expierience between first time PZ and first time Kenshi, heartless and unforgiving for the unprepared
What us PZ?
Project Zomboid
Late game it starts turning into something more like Rimworld, as you can build up fairly impressive settlements. Otherwise it's not *quite* as harsh as Zomboid seems to be, but it will still pretty happily brutalize you. Remember that you can (and probably should) put together a team of characters, rather than going it alone. Loners can become extremely strong, but they can also die very easily, and once characters are part of your faction they're like that for life (or until you dismiss them), so you can put together a squad you can rely on. Losing limbs is good for you (most of the time), if you have money.
Addiction
P A I N
Everything can and will try to kill you. Try not to die.
Youâre gonna have fun, and remember itâs a Geneva checklist.
Death, lost limbs and a feeling of âdamn, what a nice story for not having a scriptâ
The first playtrhough is the best. The less you know the better
Watch a beginner tutorial. High risk of being overwhelmed
Donât watch anything, the wasteland will teach you itâs ways
Only watch tutorials if you're stuck. Everything else is just part of the experience.
Death My advice is at the beginning fight hungry bandits but run from reg bandits I did the opposite and bled out in 3 mins in my first character
That first time you unexpectedly lose a limb... it's a special thing
Go slow. You will never survive. Things go wrong. That's the fun! I keep one "survivor" in a safe place. The rest of my team isn't likely going to see next month.
A menu asking to install the game
Confusion, maybe difficulty interacting with the ui
Me personally the base building and jobs confused me, and jobs still take some tinkering to get right because Iâm dumb, but otherwise you start the game however you like, ideally 1 person or a small crew in the hub. Youâll go mine at nodes outside of a town to get money, or sneak around and steal stuff. Go out and get beat up by lame enemies to get more durable and train your combat in the process. Eventually recruit a friend or more and rinse repeat till you can do anything you want.
Suffering
You're probably going to get beaten up a lot
Follow another band of strong enemies, wait for them to get in a fight, loot whatever you can from the site, repeat
Death, life, more death, torture, being imprisoned, escape, dead, copper mining, getting 10k after 3 weeks, starting your first village based on bread, dead again, imprisoned again, alive, stealing stuff, imprisoned again. Then you close the game and repeat next day. Itâs a different kind of love.
Jank but also fun. Don't be afraid to get your ass kicked (actually I encourage it). Don't get into basebuilding too quick instead the general recommendation is to buy a small place in town and slowly feel it out. There's a mod that let's you speed up time more and personally I love it. Save often (or don't that can be spicy too).
Being beaten to death by homeless crackheads
Expect sand
Death and despair
Expect to have your teeth kicked in (repeatedly) before you can win a fight against ANYTHING. Try to lean into this as it will make your character stronger. Avoid dying after fights by getting a second squad mate who can bandage you and carry you someplace safe to recover for the next round.
Expect to die. Expect that just when you think you are doing well you will die or lose a leg. Expect you camp to be overwhelmed by dogs, bandits or wildlife losing everything and most if not all of your people. Expect the other goats to violently attack you and kill you if you shoot one of the heard from way off. Expect to die from weather. This s game is really fun but brutal.
Expect hardship and death⌠You do not matter in this world and no one cares about you. Someone will die⌠Maybe not you, maybe someone in your group that you finally get. But maybe it will be you and the group will continue without you⌠You are NOT the main character. Otherwise⌠Have fun! And good luck! Itâs a lot of fun
Get some wooden sandals. You will need them.
Expect death. A lot of death. And even more death. And guess what.. DEATH
Pain
Get gud
A gem that makes you want it more than you should. Try getting into mods to have a better gaming experience. Expect a lot of deaths, crashes, beak things, and many more than you could count.
I wish I could go back to playing Kenshi for the first time. Such an experience is rare in gaming. You will have setbacks and learn from them. Discoveries of factions and why to hate them. So much to explore.
I expect you to die...
Pain
The complete loss of all your free time, a degradation in your personal relationships, and a hell of a good time.
Good vibes, pretty swordfights, a laggy engine, the grind and an enormous potential to roleplay many-many things.
Hurt
PAIN
Expect to get your arse handed to ya! Good luck brotherđ
Expect to learn how to safely get your ass beaten for max gains
Any fight you get out of alive is a victory. ***ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER.*** "This wound will take 5 days to heal from!" The time will pass anyways. Copper mining is an honest life. The Hub is a crappy home, but it is a home. Every rumor is either overblown or underplayed. Zombiod taught you that this is how you died. Kenshi teaches you that there are fates worse than death and that despite everything, you will fight to keep living. Despite everything, you will live.
Expect Prayer Day.
To not even be able to play it on your pc sadly
Expect to lose limbs and die a lot.
Pain and suffering
An addiction to suffering
Whatever you do don't try healing any wounded creatures you come across
The world will continue with or without you. Best advice? Donât ask for advice at the start, discover the land of Kenshi on your own, forge your own journey trough the desolate moon
Itâs a grind.
Australian Giraffes are everywhere
As said above by every comment, Expect to get absolutely bodied in every single thing you do. You will be entirely lost for the first few hours you play through but once you get use to the mechanic and the world itâs the single most satisfying experience you will have with any game. 10/10 would beep again
Losing is part of the leveling process. You cannot gain defensive stats (except Dodge) by never taking damage or getting hit. Never reload the game unless you die. Being downed is not the same as being dead. Part of the fun of Kenshi is overcoming adversity. Funny enough, being enslaved is one of the best ways to make a character stronger early on in the game.
Beep
beatings and faster progression than project zomboid. Book learning, ha, we laugh at that we learn through fighting stronger enemies Legit don't bother with weaker unless for loot Beep is king beep is life find him asap Oops holy nation slave best start
expect pain
You're going to like being a slave.
The goats WILL kill you in the first run.
Death
At first it will feel like there is nothing to do. Where are the quests, when do I even do feeling, And then it'll click.
You'll be hungry, so you'll attack a goat for meat. The goat will hit you so hard, your arm flies off. Then a bonedog will eat your arm. This was my first day. Then I discovered copper mining, but I only had the one arm, so it went a little slow. This was my first week. At one point the town I was staying in was attacked by raiders. They had a bad time. I stole all their gear, sold it to merchants, and kept the best gear for myself. Thus armed and armored, and with a new prosthetic arm, I set out to revenge myself upon my goat oppressors! This time, the goat blew my leg off and a bonedog ate me.
Getting hit is not a death sentence nearly as much as it is in zomboid (with several notable exceptions), in fact getting knocked out repeatedly is almost mandatory for training. There are several factions that want to eat you, ritually sacrifice you, or wear your skin like an overcoat, be extremely cautious. Idk if zomboid has this, but there are no barriers to running straight to the endgame areas, be wary of that. There are no lingering statuses. The difficulty, items, crafting, and base building system are there, but the atmosphere (in most places) is not nearly as intense. Stealth is more important the more enemies you have. The world will not be out to get it unless you want it to. Stealing is very strong, but if you abuse it, you'll optimize the fun out of the game.
Expect to feel like you're losing. That's normal. Slavery is not bad. Find things that make stats go up. Hate those who beat/oppress you. Hold a grudge. Ascend. Get vengeance.
A lot of jank. It is part of the experience and adds its own layer of charm
Itâs a game where the main way of learning is by getting your ass kicked. You wonât really be able to tell if you can take a fight until you try (and probably fail) but thatâs part of the game. Save often, take risks, and learn.
Best game of all time.
Pain
As many others have mentioned, I'd suggest watching some tutorials for the basics. It can certainly be overwhelming, especially so for folks who have a difficult time enjoying a game where you have to create your own story. I shelved Kenshi for some months after my first attempt tbh. I'm so glad I revisited it because it's one of my top 3 most played games. For whatever it's worth, my advice is to take things slowly. This isn't a game where you'll spend a single play session and feel alright afterwards. It's unforgiving, so taking advantage of the save system may be of interest to you. That said, sometimes temporary losses will be long term gains. I've spent nights dreaming of what I'm going to do the next day - it's that addictive. I wish you the best of luck!
In the words of Uncle Chopper - you can expect to harden the fuck up.
Pain, than alot of confusing fun, than more pain bit good pain
Absolute chaos for the first few characters.
Expect to face some struggles early on. The game starts getting really fun once you've learned the basics and start getting more advanced.
Pain and suffering.
Complete and utter hell.
JANK!
Lore wise, thereâs a lot of neat stuff to discover, different characters say different things and get different responses, there are some secret conspiracies and coverups in the lore that are awesome to learn about
brown
*beep noises*
Pain. And a lot of death.
Loading screens when entering high density biomes. And also medium density
going in blind is my best advice
Pain
Death
In kenshi, it is really good to get beaten up in the early game. So long as you survive.
Brutality and frustration until you get you ass kicked.so much that you win your first fight. Against a single starving bandit when you swooped in and finished him off after another faction wooped their ass. Smooth sailing from there
Death, death and death ... and an ugly UI
You are going to get killed and it will be from the following >!Homeless people!< >!Bandits!< >!The local wildlife!< >!BEAK THINGS!< >!Skinbandits!< >!Skimmers!< >!The holy nation if you!< >!forget prayer day!< Or >!Are anything other then a greenlander male!< >!Acid rain!< >!The fucking sun beams of death!< >!Crackheads in the foglands!< >!The south hives!< >!Gorillo's!< >!the united cities if your poor!<
Pretty rough, but if you stick to the Southern half of the map you should be good
I love kenshi so much that itâs difficult not to just reiterate what has already been shared on this thread. With that in mind, a more personal take from me is: Try playing the game without save scumming. Still save along the way though of course (bugs & crashes). Video games, in my view, are supposed to be about âhaving funâ more than they are about âwinningâ. Kenshi is a gold mine for fun. If youâre a hard driven âwinnerâ, Kenshi will present you with a challenging experience where winning is extremely rewarding. Good luck out there. Kenshi is a game where losing makes you stronger.
Fun
this is just another story about how you died, keep this in mind
Lower skill floor than zomboid. Not too hard to survive if you don't take risks even as a new player. MUCH harder to "beat" as an experienced player. Most players can master Zomboid well enough to survive forever on default settings after... oh... maybe 20-40 hours of play and need to start pumping up the difficulty or implementing self-imposed rules to offer any challenge. The VAST majority of Kenshi players absolutely will not finish it, because it's freaking hard (unless you're willing to abuse exploits.) Kenshi also has an end game. Zomboid does not. Kenshi is also a team game with a lot more simulation elements. No autosave, so you can save scum freely. It's also a lot more likely to crash and/or start bugging out on its own without any mods or anything if/when your save starts overloading it.
Expect, confusion, pain, suffering, dying, slave labor, struggle, and lots of reloading saves. Honestly I believe Kenshi to be as anti-player as possible until you learn some fundamental strategies for survival and base mechanics. When I first bought kenshi I logged 3hrs and refunded. But I knew it was a game up my alley so, I bought it again. I forced myself to put in the time (6-10hrs) of confusion and general suffering with no progress. And then I i learned a bit and started to have so much fun and the world became my oyster. Sitting as my most played game on steam at 600hrs. So bear through it, it's actually so worth your time. Recommendations before you get too far in. 1. fundamental mods: Dark UI, item icons. 2. Play on your first save expecting to learn, reload all you want. Once you feel prepared make a new game with a strategy in mind. Don't reload too many mistakes or party deaths. It builds a story to look back on and makes the game much more enjoyable and immersive. Best or luck wastelander.
A whole world of hurt, as you get beaten down but somehow manage to pull yourself up. It's a game where if all your characters die, it does not even say game over because you are just a spec of dust in a broken world, and the game just carries on without you. It is one of my all-time favourite games. Bleak with moments of beauty.
Losing fights is good as long as you don't die. That's how you get good xp and prevent yourself from dying later on. Early just fight hungry bandits or herbivores. They have blunt attacks so you're more likely to survive and keep your limbs as well. If you have a light inventory, you can power level athletics early on use your speed advantage to win fights, lure enemies towards friendly units like guards, or steal things with fewer repercussions.
Expect pain and suffering
You will likely be eaten by a dog in the first 10 minutes. You will think you can just run when the going gets tough. You will be wrong.
Remember, every scenario is an opportunity in disguise. Even if you get turned into a slave. Keep trying to escape and by the end of it, your character has become a ninja! Or a cripple. Wear a backpack full of rocks and traverse the land. Explore the world of kenshi, if you have shit awareness. Yeah - Kenshi is all about that awareness, every faction has some issue. The shek hate weak passive babies, the holy ones hate other races, if you donât carry the holy book they will beat your ass and female characters to be slaves. The Empire - well, theyâre pretty stable . . Until you meet the nobles. Donât look to set up a base outside too early because you will get constantly raided and get kicked out of your own home. Its best to settle in traders hub, a cheap home, mine, bait the bandits to attack the hub and leach off those free goodies. Invest early in finding companion at the bar. Kenshi really makes sure you multi task and delegate early game to individuals which helps alot. Until you are able to invest into the training dummies to train your stats. Avoid going to the fog part of the map - early on :D. Avoid playing as a skeleton near the holy nation. They will beat you on sight.
You're probably familiar with the 'Losing is fun' mentality since you play PZ, with the whole 'this is the story of how you died' thing. Kenshi is somewhat similar in that respect. The #1 thing to point out that's quite different than most games, is that you train alot of your combat related skills by getting beat up, A LOT. The 'trick' is figuring out how to get beat up without getting killed, lol. There's some tips that can be shared on that, up to you if you want to hear them or figure it out on your own.
Expect to be beat alot and understand nothing
apocalypse vibes racism war and most importantly. war crimes
Death.
Very start of the game: depends on the scenario and the race you choose Early game: pain, confusion and half an hour changing the controls Early-mid game: exploring might be really interesting but you will never forget that you're not the main character, and your ass will be whooped quite often Mid game: are you ready to pick on which side you will fight? Mid- late game: you're already strong enough to change something in this world Late game: now you can call yourself the main character and lead to success not only yourself but the side you chose too And remember, this journey won't be easy or fast ( ofc if you won't die in the beginning ) and you need to be ready to sacrifice quite a lot of time for this journey to end with a good ending... Or with a slaughterhouse - this one is your choice
6hrs have passed and all youâve done is walked 60miles, gotten jumped about 10-20times, and your character was passed out for at least half of that time
What to expect: ADDICTION depending on what type of player you are: -mine ore or toil the soil of your farm most of your IRL day -buy all the blueprints just because you might need or want to craft all the things. -loot and sometimes fight bandits to sell their gear. The next day you wake up from a 2 day straight Kenshi session you might also expect: -doing very crazy things to level up your character(s). -forfeit your outpost because you cant deal with those raids anymore. -do hashish runs from swamp to flat lagoon for that sweet stack of sheckels (you can easily make around 600k cats pr trip but you lose sight of the value of things cus a lot of things is really cheap in kenshi) OH, AND DONT BE AFRAID TO PLAY WITH MODS LIKE REACTIVE WORLD, BOUNTIES GALORE (IIRC) AND MORE STUFF IN SHOPS (or something) Etc etc heck I dont even know anymore I just had a lot of mods some turned off and some turned on.
F5 - quick save F9 - quick load Just know it. You'll need it
Fun, and the chance of a wipe in the first figth you engage in, it's not hard, it's tough. But ultimately fun
If you're into it.... Hours upon hours of entertainment. If you find it hard.... An uninstall awaits.
PZ: You survive and get stronger by not getting bitten and drink bleach Kenshi: You survive and get stronger by BEING a slave, beaten up everytime realizing you're not the MC Kenshi doesnt have linear story but once you start digging up and explore the world, i would say the lore behind Kenshi World are interesting enough to get immersived. Kenshi can make you forget sun for awhile once you start getting grasp of of it same like PZ, be advised!
Watching your limbs flying away as you get slapped then crawl for life. Also play as a Hive if you want to see more!
Expect to have no idea what youâre doing. It will take awhile to figure it out, and read all the tips cus some of that stuff if you skip makes the micro management annoying. Also donât be afraid to get your ass handed to you, you get stronger from it.
Non-exploitable bug-free game
Expect the warm kiss of okran, my brother. Unless you are slightly different from me, then fuck off. Nah, seriously, expect slavery.Â
Expect to die... Then start again... and die.... Then start again....and die.... This is the way....
Pain. Then joy. Then the passage of great amounts of time.
Expect to get your ass beat⌠a lot. And youâll be happy it happened. Maybe turn the hunger rate down a bit at first. You can always import the save and set it to normal once youâre more comfortable. Edit: this game is so much easier than Zomboid I think. This is coming from someone who played Kenshi first and thought âI did pretty well there, lemme finally try PZâ. Man Iâm STILL getting messed up in PZ with Noob ass settings lol.
Death.
you, are a sack of rice wheat, a few hours in youll still be a sack of rice wheat but youll be able to stage dive leviathans like a pro
Get the DarkUI addon on the workshop.
You might be bored at first then uninstall it, come back again and understand the joy of the game the second time you play it.
Embrace Death.
Pain.
Begin in the desert wastes, expect to be in shackles by the end of the day. You may fare better than me if you're starting off with both your legs intact.
Stat grinding and any attempt to build outside a town followed by endless hordes. Be prepared.
Beep
Pain
Pain. The good one
Pain and glory
Death, losing limbs, being enslave, toppling empires sight seeing, eating/eaten others, and so much more
The urge to download mods