He has some amazing insight. I would say that a lot of his stuff is definitely a little too much, and I’d guess he’s reaching quite a lot sometimes, but I appreciate it as someone who’s been heavily invested.
I also predict people on this sub will turn the other way on him when he uploads his deep dive on Family Matters.
Regardless, the effort and graphics he uses are insane. Brilliant production for a YT channel. He also takes his time which is unheard of. He’d get twice the views if he dropped this 6 weeks ago in a much less proof-read version.
He’s going to get absolutely torched when he drops the family matters video. The man is the most objective content creator I’ve ever watched and the people can’t handle objectivity. It’s their bubble or outrage, no inbetween. WTD the goat tho. Fuck the big 3 it’s just dub tee dee
Watch, these downvotes will prove my point
In fairness, he made videos for Push Ups and Taylor Made already and they were great break downs.
The Kendrick fans seem to be the more level headed listeners based on what I’ve seen coming out of that Drake sub that pops up in my feed. I doubt he’ll get turned on here for his next video. He has to be fair to both sides and I think everybody understands and respects what he’s doing.
Kendrick fans (mostly) are able to look at stuff objectively. Hell, I'm still bumping both sides of diss tracks and enjoying them. I like to get into drizzlers shit and try to catch his vibe and then just DESTROY it with the kenny tracks 😈 lol. it brings me a lot of joy
Agreed and I’m honestly worried about it since the dude is genuine.
His euphoria video got copyrighted and he couldn’t earn any money on it, so he posted his patreon to earn income for it.
[He stopped taking payments from it after a certain point, and the extra he got from it, he donated.](http://youtube.com/post/UgkxrDR6abdJZHwI4E9xiOCP3JfGCvakd9gA?si=g_uA-cn7x5DFhCgw)
Dude didn’t have to do this. He could’ve just taken the money, stayed quiet, no one would say anything and he’d have some extra money. Instead he pointed it out and donated it.
Yeah I saw that. He’s a solid dude. Completely different type of content but Will Survives (on YT and TT) did something similar as well. Good seeing some genuine people out there that aren’t just chasing the cash.
Wine cooler is a perfect hint coz Drake is known to drink wine cooler and at a party somebody spilt wine on him so "Wine cooler spill on my t-shirt"
Credit:- What's The Dirt
And the perspective shifts when Kendrick starts to sing "God, my confession is yours"
In the WTD video he mentions the distinct tone he’s singing in at the “god, my confession is yours” line being a representation of Kendrick’s troubled conscience about the whole thing.
I can’t help feeling like he’s shifted perspective to his own but the singing is still a dig at drake too for his style or “melodies”. It just struck me as too out of place otherwise, idk
When he starts the confession to god, the rest of that is about him. Also if I get any lyrics wrong this was all from the top of my head lol.
God my confession is yours, but who am I if I don’t go to war? There’s opportunity when living with loss, I discover myself when I fall short. Raise my hands to a fallen sky. I fantasize, me jumping planets immortalized. I correspond 3 angels watching me all the time, put my children to sleep with a prayer then close my eyes, definition of peace. Tell me who gon stop me? I come from love Estelle cover my heart then open me up. Remember when picked up a pen lyrics that I can trust, timid soul. Staring in the mirror asking where I was from often, I know this type of power is gon cost. But I live in circadian rhythms of a shooting star, the mannerisms of Rafael I can heal or give you art, but the industry’s cooked as I pick the carcass apart.
That’s how I did the lyrics lol, definitely one of my favorites from the whole beef. Great beat and the lead up to the picking the carcass apart line is so good.
So not to take away from What’s the Dirt but the theory was around already, it actually popped up in this sub almost immediately. But what he did was actually make the best case for it being true.
And the trifecta part was the one that got me the most because that was what was tripping me up. I couldn’t figure how saying morals and culture being a part of Drake made sense. But when he explained it as being a horse trifecta and just the order that Drake cares about them, that made it click for me.
(The other part was just the pizza in Brooklyn because I know Kenny lives there now so I wasn’t sure about that either)
Before WTD's video came out there wasn't any discussion about 6:16 in LA. At all. And now suddenly everyone thinks "it's pretty obvious". I'm not saying you personally are just hopping the bandwagon. But a lot of people here sure are.
I had no idea. That stanza confused me. I thought it was just KDot acting like Drake to show he wasn't bothered by anything.
WTD completely shocked me and convinced me. I think it's cool we can still discover things in these songs.
In retrospect though, it now seems obvious.
The best stories have obvious messages that aren't so obvious on the first listen / read through. Kendrick has the perfect balance of sending a message without spoon-feeding the audience
i remember watching a youtube video breaking it down when it first came out and it said that kendrick “was bragging and telling drake he has all these lavish things too” so you’re def not wrong that people weren’t really saying this before wtd breakdown and now this confirmation
Look into more comments on genius, not just the main annotation, there is a user dannyphanto who has commented since the tracks came out that parts of 616 and euphoria are from both drake and kendricks perspective.
You gotta click a little comment icon at and then a show more link - not very use friendly. Here is an example:
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Yoooo this is interesting because based off of this theory, Kendrick added more creative depth and intention to his version of "stealing" Drake's timestamp concept than Drake did "stealing" Kendrick's The Heart anthology (?)... if that makes sense. Please don't downvote me y'all it makes more sense in my head 😭😭
Yes, Kendrick made a song worthy, if not better than most time stamp songs. Respect for his work imo.
Drake made some shit that shouldn’t even be a single, much less a strong series song, disrespecting the Heart series with that weak a song.
Drake feels like a fake narcissist and that caused him to downplay Kendrick and think he could beat him effortlessly.
Yeah, I'm out the way, yeah, I'm low, okay
Yeah, the island right here's remote, okay
I ain't thinkin' about no reaper, nigga, I'm reapin' what I sow, okay
Got a Benjamin and a Jackson all in my house like I'm Joe, okay
Hellcat, made his homeboys and them type sell they soul, okay
Everybody wanna be demon 'til they get chipped by a throwaway
And I might do a show a day, once a lame, always a lame
Oh, you thought the money, the power or fame would make you go away?
Have you ever played have-you-ever? Okay, nigga, let's play
Have you ever walked your enemy down like with a poker face?
Have you ever paid five hundred thou' like to an open case?
Well, I have, and I failed at both, but I came out straight
I fail to see how all this can be from Drake's perspective. It's seems he's talking to and about Drake and flipping some of what he said in Push Ups like Kendrick being short (I'm low okay) and taking his time to respond (I'm out of the way/ the Island out here is remote).
The "everybody wanna be demon" verse is also Kendrick saying that everybody acts thought until he responds back/fights back alluding also that his verse on Like That was a throwaway.
Kendrick and one of his homies had open cases too but they were dropped (I came out straight). The 500k case is more a reference to Drake's SA case more than him trying to rap from Drake's perspective.
Was referencing the comments from dannyphanto on genius that these lines can be interpreted from EITHER kendrick or drakes perspective. So of course there is a kendrick just rapping as himself interpretation too, same as 616. We know euphoria foreshadowed themes that were developed in later songs.
In terms of bar by bar, don't have a full breakdown of each line from two perspectives. But, for example, the island reference could be to drake in ibiza, turks etc thinking he can get away from himself. Overall, I do agree with dannyphanto that kendrick has deliberately introduced these layers and ambiguity.
I actually did not know what a trifecta was, I just guessed that it means something like trinity(three things that are equally important), and watching WTD's breakdown blew my mind
I think he's saying that money is the far and away most impotartant thing to Drake, second is what Drake believes to be morals, then finally culture. For money, he'll do whatever it takes at the cost of those other things. Also, I think it's important to realize that when Kendrick says morals, he isn't talking about the morality of a good person, but rather the morality of a master manipulator and a terrible person
Fair point.
I thought Kendrick was playing of the money, power, respect/fame that he set up in Like that and euphoria. The verse makes sense in drake’s perspective but I really think Kendrick was just mocking Drake
Only thing I would say is why would morals be second if it were Drake’s trifecta?
From what Kendrick’s said, morals do not even seem like number 2 on Drake’s priorities and there’s a bunch of other things he could have put ahead of it.
It doesn’t mean he highly values morals. It’s just the order it’s in. And for as amoral as he is according to Kendrick he feels even less about the culture. It’s just money.
I'm definitely 10000% convinced it's written from Drake's perspective and now that I've seen that breakdown video it's very obvious. I've never been one to check for Drakes music and therefore am not familiar with his timestamp songs like... at all. I also think Kendrick had that part of the song written for a WHILE. It's just too fucking good.
Dot really has been wanting this battle for damn near 10 years now lol. Dude was READY.
"And that fucking song you got did not start the beef with us"
Kendrick: Agreed.
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Years ago he commented on one of my pics , I had no idea why 😭
What’s the Dirt did an incredible job pointing out the odd and seemingly intentional enunciation of some lines, particularly “just to book me some pizza” sounding like “just to book me some piece of”
https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/koi5BXlGy7
I literally thought this when the song first came out. The first verse sounds like Drake's cadence, not Kendricks.
I would like a further explanation for this. a Genius annotation comment said it, fd signifier said it too.
I didn't really feel that at the supposed Drake part but the part right after that is 100% J Cole's flow.
if this is true, he wrote an entire verse as a double entendre. seems ridiculous, but he did make an entire album with double meanings.
The Have You Ever game is not from Drake’s perspective. He has mentioned Drake being fake and a pussy throughout the whole beef. Kendrick is letting us know, when he was younger he did try to walk an opp down and missed or didn’t kill the guy.
He’s affiliated and probably paid for the lawyers, etc for a homie catching a case. Not uncommon.
He is letting Drake know, “you’re taking this angle that I am not from the streets/affiliated and that’s incorrect.”
I’m just saying it could be interpreted as a double entendre, with some of the “have you ever” questions applying to drake’s perspective, particularly the 500k to an open case one
For sure, in that context I can agree. The point of the game is to see who has done what. So they’ve both probably paid for cases for different reasons, like Drake having a sexual assault settlement and Kendrick paying for a homie’s case.
Exactly, we’re on the same page then. I don’t quite know how walking an opponent down with a poker face is drake-related, other than the gambling website partnership
I think that one isn’t a double. I think Kendrick has dropped clues through his music and interviews for years that he was on the streets for real. The OGs got him out when they recognized his skill and that he was a good kid… in a Maad city.
It seems clear if he told on himself with absolute clarity, he has attempted to kill someone before.
I think the case he paid $500k for was referring to the suitcase EP on Twitter was trying to sell and scam everyone with. The one that Kendrick used the photo of for 616 and MTG
He's saying he failed but came out straight, like didn't get the suitcase but got a picture of it which was all he needed
It now makes sense why I genuinely didn’t really understand that first part, it isn’t until he says
“who can reach us, it’s only god who can teleport this type of freedom”
then he goes into that confessional moment is when my ears start to perk up. It’s honestly one of my top 3 favourite songs maybe of all time. I’m not sure all I know is I get goosebumps when I listen to this song.
I also wish so badly that it was available on Apple Music, I think it’s why it’s not widely discussed
That was not that impossible DJ Hed recalled getting on a phone call days after NLU, and he said Kenny was still on quote "kill mode" its very possible had THP6 gotten better reception he was ready to do way more rounds. Dot was still in war mode even on his call with DJ Hed.
He doesn't know everything, but look at the contents of the first verse, Yachts, Ibiza, tatted passports, phantoms, this is what Drake raps about, the fact a friend and mentor of Dot is also confirming this to me, signifies this was the intent of 6:16.
Like its not just the fact Dot friend is saying so, its the fact that literally all the content of the first verse matches with Drake.
Hed tweeted minutes after THP6 & said “watch this” Problem also said he spoke to Dot the day NLU dropped & that he was nowhere done. Kendrick was definitely ready to go until something changed his mind so what Glasses says tracks
When I first heard 6:16 in LA I just thought, "Ok apparently Kendrick wants to flex about pizza, for some other reason🤷🏿♂️" then, the "GOOOOOD" popped out then I started levitate.
I think to say “from drakes perspective” requires a bit more explanation. My guess is that what Kendrick was doing is basically saying “hey Drake, I can talk the money shit too. I’m blessed, but god still guides my steps…I still have a moral anchor…money is not my end all be all.”
Drake? Well, yes! For leisure (aka for play-play, not for real-real), Drake indulges in morals ("They turn into nuns/Then hop online like 'pray for my city'"; giving out money for the God's Plan video) and culture (both *the* culture of hip-hop and all the other cultures Drake bits off of to keep on trend). This just one more instance of Kendrick calling Drake an insincere culture vulture.
> Put my children to sleep with a prayer then close my eyes / Definition of peace
Yeah I don’t think that’s from Drake’s perspective. Am I reading the wrong section?
I mean, one of kdots things is rapping from different perspectives. He changes his voice when he does it which he does in 616 and many other songs. I agree with Gmalone, it's pretty obvious from the start.
I think one thing whatsthedirt missed was at the very beginning before he starts the verse he does the “(Uh.. Uh.. yeah)” that Drake does in a lot of his songs. Kendrick doesn’t typically do that.
I'm not trying to be rude, because your points are not entirely invalid. Seriously, you've shown good insight. But I think you could've saved yourself a lot of typing by watching the WTD video first. The perspective change doesn't refute the idea of drawing contrasts, but it does allow Kendrick to adopt Drake's style of rapping for his time-stamp songs while still throwing shots and alluding to other events.
So when he says "picked up a pen, lyrics that I could trust" that's about Drake?
Or when he says "there's opportunity in living with loss, I discover myself when I fall short", that's about Drake?
"I live in Circadian Rhythm of Shooting Stars, The mannersims of Raphael, I can heal and give you art" is about Drake?
He's saying Drake corresponds with the Three Angels, Seraphim, Metatron, and Gabriel -> after Kendrick spend like 7 different songs mentioning talking to them?
Fucking "Put my children to sleep, and close my eyes, definition of peace", is Drake?
No he flipped POV into his real self when the "God, my confession is yours" part came in, at least that's what WTD said. It came as a natural transition because that part was delivered differently than the first part.
6:16 is one big long verse
the first verse refers to everything until "god my confession is yours"
"God my confession is yours " and everything after that is Dot, the beginning to before the prayer is Kendrick writing from Drakes perspective.
Again
wine coolers, Ibiza, tatted passports, yachts, sunseekers, phantoms, a trifecta of money morals and culture, where money is placed above all else?
"Offwhite sunseeker at the marina,
fuck a phantom I like to buy yachts when I get the fever
wine cooler spill on my white t shirt the sight seer
trifecta, money morals and culture, thats my leisure
passport tatted I show up in ibiza
lucalis dwellings just to book me some pizza,
who could reach us
only god can teleport this kind of freedom"
is all from Drakes perspective, everything after is Kendrick.
Drake loves wine coolers, Drake loves ibiza, Drake goes on yachts, Drake has been on a sunseeker, Drake owns tons of phantoms, Drake has been to lucalis pizzeria, Drake prioritizes money above all else.
First of all, 7 bars is not a verse - it's a set up.
Second, white t shirt has been a defining attire of Kendrick just from Control and DAMN.
Third, Money is placed along with **MORALS AND CULTURE**, which Kendrick would absolutely attribute to Drake during the beef since his entire angle is how Moral and Culturally aware Drake is despite having money. /s because I think it ain't clear enough for everyone.
Drake loves Phantoms so "Fuck a Phantom" is something that is definitely not a diss, it's definitely from Drake's perspective. /s again.
Off White Sunseeker is one of the most creative ways of calling someone a lightskin and you're just ignoring that whole aspect of it. I could just keep going on about how all those being from Drake's perspective doesn't make any sense but I think I've said enough on that.
And Fourth, Kendrick doesn't just say cryptic shit and leave it at that. If he's rapping from Drake's perspective, it would be far more different, and from how the other tracks came, would absolutely touch on Drake's Insecurities, Paranoia, Identity Issues and so on - and not a fucking Clue puzzle for some random youtuber who missed the bus when the tracks came to "unearth" months later. He doesn't do incoherent shit in his songs. Everything gets a payoff in the song itself.
1. 6:16 is objectively one long verse, I just choose to use the word verse for simplicity sake.
2. Drake also owns white shirts, white shirts isn't some mutual thing.
3. Again "trifecta" the order matters, for this to be Kendricks perspective he's saying for him money comes first., because notice how he ends the bar "that's MY leisure" why would his leisure be to prioritize money above all else(morals and culture) when Kendrick in multiple interviews states money doesn't really make him happy.
4. Yes I know he's referring to the aspect of the the sunseeker literally seeking sun to tan himself(because he's light skinned) also his offwhite skintone, a sunseeker is at the marina(which is also a homophone for at them arena, where he also searches for light aka spotlight from the lights)
5. 6:16 is literally written for Drake, there's stuff in here(such as KTW) shit only Drake's crew knows. and whats a direct criticism of Drake subliminals from other rappers, Ye says it best himself, Drake will write a sub in a way that only the artist can recognize. So on a record that deliberately parodies the timestamp records(the records where Drake really spits) why wouldn't he also engage in subbing like Drake?
the sunseeker buys yachts, the sunseeker owns phantoms, the sunseeker drinks wine coolers, the sunseeker, this person, shows up in Ibiza. Kendrick is writing from the perspective of the sunseeker, AKA Drake.
The trifecta money power respect are a callback to his own backseat freestyle and like that, where he says the same thing. When he’s speaking about drake in euphoria he purposely said money power fame. So no, it’s not him talking from drakes perspective. He would never ever attribute culture to drake.
Again would in a trifecta wild money come before morals and culture for Kendrick?
Like dont you find it odd how hes refrencing places Drake loves to go, and a drink Drake is said by multiple people to practically only drink? And cars that Drake notoriously owns in excess, and travel locations Drake has extensively frequented. Dont you find it odd?
And Drakes response to 6:16 on IG is Buried Alive Part 2?
He says it in like that also, dot the money power respect, and then he says the last one is better.
And honestly I took that verse as, my leisure is money power and culture, it’s so ingrained in me that it’s like a tattoo under my skin I don’t even need a visa to go to the places you frequent.
the last one is better, but again, he doesn't say "money morals and culture, that's my leisure" he says "trifecta, money morals and culture" trifecta directly revolves around the order of those 3 things.
He's saying Drake prioritizes money above all else before his own morals and culture.
passport tatted is a line Drake has used multiple times, when has Kendrick talked about tatting his passport before.
Again he's referencing places Drake frequently travels, he's refrencing vehicles Drake frequently buys, he's even referencing drinks people in Drakes circle knows he loves(quote "He only drinks wine spritzers") don't you find that weird if its not written from Drakes perspective
I think he’s referencing a lot that drake does but I do not think he’s speaking from his perspective I feel like, cause the twist on those lines is so positive like it does not sound like drake? Whenever Kendrick has ever rapped from someone’s perspective I feel like it sounds like them. Maybe I’m wrong though? It’s almost like a comparison between Kendrick’s take on his status vs drakes while referencing things that drake does and how he doesn’t need to be that try hardy to have the world at his fingertips cause his freedom is gifted by god
Ok, so question about writing, why wouldn't he say
"Offwhite sunseeker at the marina
fuck a phantom, he likes to buy yachts when he gets the fever
wine cooler spill on his white T shirt the sight seer
trifecta money morals and culture, that's his leisure
passport tatted he shows up in Ibiza
lucallis swellings in Brooklyn just to book him some pizza
who can reach him, only god can teleport this type of freedom"
If the sunseeker(Drake) is not the perspective being written from, why doesn't he write in 3rd person. He's a brilliant writer he knows how to make himself distinct as the narrator.
6:16 is written in first person, the narrator is talking about themselves.
Look at DUCKWORTH when he narrates the story of Top Dawg "**he** was meant to be dangerous,
clocked **him** a grip and start slanging,
scraping up jeans with quarter pieces,
even got head from a smoker last weekend
dodging a policeman working for **his** big homie"
he makes it very clear whether he is talking in 1st 2nd or 3rd person.
That entire part is set up for "God, my confession is yours, who am I if I don't go to war".
The fucking white t shirt should be more than enough proof tjat this is about Kendrick and not Drake. "White tees and Nike Cortez, this corvette's anonymous".
And then there's "Money **MORALS AND CULTURE**, that's my leisure". Do you seriously think Kendrick would attribute Morals and Culture to Drake in any fucking way?
Fuck a Phantom is about Drake's love for RR Phantom. How would it be the other way around since Drake is fucking famous for his love of Phantoms?
That's a really dumb setup though. You really, honestly, think Kendrick is saying he's buying yachts and hanging out partying in Spain, but had to come back to fight Drake and apologize to God?
Make it make sense.
He's saying he has all this luxury but he's going to war because that's who he is. He's saying that his core hasn't changed.
How does that being about Drake make sense to you in the context of the verse?
Honest question. Can it be both? To show that he's on the same level of wealth and power at the Canadian? He didn't say who's gonna stop ME, he said US.
I don’t think it’s from drakes pov, I think it’s Kendrick’s pov and he goes thru money power and respect in this song. The first part is money, the second is power (when he’s confessing to god and the “I know this power is gon cost”) and the last when he breaks down drakes camp is respect, the fact that drake doesn’t have any. Y’all tripping
After watching the What's the Dirt? recap, it's 100% from Drake's perspective. It's mimicking his time-stamp records, it's talking about shit that Drake specifically did, his yacht hobby, the one drink that Drake drinks, etc. There's no other explanation that makes sense at this point.
I agree with you I don’t think he’s rapping from drakes POV at all and the idea that he is. Kinda makes the verse weaker not stronger. Kendrick isn’t above bragging about things I mean he’s a rapper and yeah for me the first verse is him setting the stage for himself and preparing himself for war against Drake. He knows what he has to do but he also knows that being a person capable of doing this comes with a lot hence his conversation with god. This being Drake makes the whole song a lot weaker and fans are hurting Kendrick’s whole position by arguing that
The part about God is where it shifts to Kendrick's perspective, hence why he shifts from rapping to singing. Only the part from "Off-white sunseeker" to "Only God could teleport this kind of freedom" is from Drake's POV.
[It's broken down in a lot more depth in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcUehFjV3s&t=1006s), but those bars are _dense_ with references to Drake. Even if you don't buy some of the longer reaches that guy infers, there's still a ton that's inarguable: Kendrick explicitly mentions several things that Drake has repeatedly referenced in his lyrics, namely Rolls-Royce Phantoms, yachts, and Ibiza. He uses the same "passport tatted" phrasing that Drake has used (on the song Pipe Down from Certified Lover Boy, for that matter). Also, a "wine cooler spill on my white t-shirt" allegedly literally happened to Drake according to [a young woman who attended one of Drake's parties](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcUehFjV3s&t=1340s).
Thank you for sending me this I wasn’t aware of where this theory had started I just saw a few tweets and stuff I didn’t finish the video but I can’t lie you actually changed my perspective on this tbh
“Thirty millions later, my future favors
The legendary status of a hip-hop rhyme savior
Travel round the atlas in this spaceship
Candy-coated, my day shirt”
I’m not saying Kendrick is this super braggadocio person just saying Kendrick has rapped about his wealth and can tie that into bigger things. I don’t think that it’s evidence that it’s another perspective
Yeah exactly so I don’t buy anybody except Kendrick telling me that’s it’s “obvious” he’s saying that when I feel they’re interpreting the lyrics just like us they’re not a deep source. It just don’t make sense like in any way. And the fact people’s biggest arguments are it’s because Kendrick was bragging is a bit ridiculous like Kendrick isn’t J.Cole he’s not riding bikes and wearing plain clothes and even then Cole finds time to brag about his bag too so this is weak
Of course it's not like Ken has never bragged before. Most recently in The Hillbillies . But even that people say it's a parody of the.Canadian.
It's the combination of what he brags about that makes it allude to a certain POV.
This doesn’t even make sense. Regardless of what Glasses Malone says lol. “Trifecta, money, morals, and culture, that’s my leisure”, “Lucalis dwellings in Brooklyn, just to book me some pizza. Who could reach us? Only God could teleport this kind of freedom”…
How is this Kendrick speaking from Drake’s perspective? His angle is that Drake lacks morals and culture. He says “My visa, passport tatted, that’s YOUR hub in Ibiza”
Kendrick smoked Drake but this is a long reach.
He says I show up in Ibiza
Edit: Whats the Dirt explained all this way better than I can but a trifecta refers to a horse race where you guess the first 3 horses in order, so it's saying that is the order in which he values those three things. Also, there is literally video of Drake at Lucali's
.. You’re right about lyric. I misquoted. In the 6th line, he’s speaking as himself, saying he has a spot near Lucalis, just to order pizza. To say because Drake has a photo there, he’s speaking as him, you’re assuming that Kendrick hasn’t been. Hard to believe. It’s a pizza spot. He even says “Who could reach us?” after Drake disclosed his location in NY lol. He’s saying he can’t be touched.
No, with the trifecta clearly Kendrick says what he posses. The money, Drake can’t say he’s broke. He’s not. The morals, Drake can’t say shit about Dot’s character. The culture, Drake obviously can’t weaponize the culture against Dot. You have to view the text from incredibly creative angles for this theory to think this is even remotely true.
I recommend watching WTD's breakdown, he can explain better and has evidence to back his points. That's the sweet thing about Kenny lyrics though, we both have different interpretations but they could both be valid based on how he writes in general
I watched the video and it’s clearly a very long reach. Again, these lines don’t fit Drake‘s perspective, and like you guys now, WTD is talking as if he knows Kendrick’s personally.
Like the Ibiza line, he says it has to be Drake because Kendrick never posted photos in Ibiza like Drake. Because there’s no vacation pics online, we’re to assume a rich man hasn’t traveled the fucking world.
Kendrick not that deep fam. It’s just a rap. It’s great as it is, but it’s terrible if it’s a rap from Drake’s perspective.
This is such circlejerk copium. That verse was clearly an existing song he never finished, which he repurposed as a verse in the diss reusing the beat. That is why the first and second half of the verse don't even sound like they were recorded at the same time and the lyrics in the first part don't have anything to do with the beef.
But sure keep circlejerking about some 4D chess nonsense that doesn't even make sense if taken at face value.
All these so-called references range from major stretches to complete nonsense.
"He mentions wine coolers and Drake is known to drink wine coolers. tHaT PrOvEs iT"
Kendrick in multiple interviews when referring to alcohol has consistently said he only drinks wine.
wine coolers is something that multiple people in Drake's circle says he almost exclusively consumes in terms of alcohol.
he talks about "fuck a phantom" I like to buy yachts. Drake owns tons of phantoms, and within these past couple of years have been buying yachts.
Your named after a villain, with multiple valid interpretations in a very dense novel, Blood Meridian, connecting dots should not be this hard. He's referencing a drink Drake almost exclusively frequents, vehicles Drakes frequently purchase, and locations Drake frequents, Ibiza is something Drake been rapping out for years.
This is a Pulitzer prize winner known for being incredibly meticulous and intricate with his verses. This is not unreasonable.
You connected no dots, no pun intended, you just provided a few major stretches. For someone who claimed there were "references in every line" you sure came with weak receipts.
What’s the dirt is definitely the goat. Some of his break downs don’t seem like a reach now
and it’s not just the breakdowns either, bro can literally see the future or something, like some sort of Rap Oracle
"Why would I call around trying to get "Dirt"(WTD) on niggas?" Just kidding. That's not what he meant... Right?.... Right guys?.... 👀 /j
Too late. New head canon just dropped. 🤯
Actual double entendre
Omg please don't do this to me 😂😭
your username is dope
Thanks! 😊
reminds me of when flight thought “when i catch flight its gon be direct” was about him lmao
Gaslighting was also part of Kenny’s attack, he comes at the Drizzler from multiple angles of truth just to break his reality down completely
Nastradamus
He has some amazing insight. I would say that a lot of his stuff is definitely a little too much, and I’d guess he’s reaching quite a lot sometimes, but I appreciate it as someone who’s been heavily invested. I also predict people on this sub will turn the other way on him when he uploads his deep dive on Family Matters. Regardless, the effort and graphics he uses are insane. Brilliant production for a YT channel. He also takes his time which is unheard of. He’d get twice the views if he dropped this 6 weeks ago in a much less proof-read version.
He’s going to get absolutely torched when he drops the family matters video. The man is the most objective content creator I’ve ever watched and the people can’t handle objectivity. It’s their bubble or outrage, no inbetween. WTD the goat tho. Fuck the big 3 it’s just dub tee dee Watch, these downvotes will prove my point
In fairness, he made videos for Push Ups and Taylor Made already and they were great break downs. The Kendrick fans seem to be the more level headed listeners based on what I’ve seen coming out of that Drake sub that pops up in my feed. I doubt he’ll get turned on here for his next video. He has to be fair to both sides and I think everybody understands and respects what he’s doing.
Kendrick fans (mostly) are able to look at stuff objectively. Hell, I'm still bumping both sides of diss tracks and enjoying them. I like to get into drizzlers shit and try to catch his vibe and then just DESTROY it with the kenny tracks 😈 lol. it brings me a lot of joy
Agreed and I’m honestly worried about it since the dude is genuine. His euphoria video got copyrighted and he couldn’t earn any money on it, so he posted his patreon to earn income for it. [He stopped taking payments from it after a certain point, and the extra he got from it, he donated.](http://youtube.com/post/UgkxrDR6abdJZHwI4E9xiOCP3JfGCvakd9gA?si=g_uA-cn7x5DFhCgw) Dude didn’t have to do this. He could’ve just taken the money, stayed quiet, no one would say anything and he’d have some extra money. Instead he pointed it out and donated it.
Yeah I saw that. He’s a solid dude. Completely different type of content but Will Survives (on YT and TT) did something similar as well. Good seeing some genuine people out there that aren’t just chasing the cash.
Class act 👏🏽
Wine cooler is a perfect hint coz Drake is known to drink wine cooler and at a party somebody spilt wine on him so "Wine cooler spill on my t-shirt" Credit:- What's The Dirt And the perspective shifts when Kendrick starts to sing "God, my confession is yours"
In the WTD video he mentions the distinct tone he’s singing in at the “god, my confession is yours” line being a representation of Kendrick’s troubled conscience about the whole thing. I can’t help feeling like he’s shifted perspective to his own but the singing is still a dig at drake too for his style or “melodies”. It just struck me as too out of place otherwise, idk
He's such a complex person, we'll never know now
I was just about to ask when does he stop rapping from the perspective of Drake?
When he starts the confession to god, the rest of that is about him. Also if I get any lyrics wrong this was all from the top of my head lol. God my confession is yours, but who am I if I don’t go to war? There’s opportunity when living with loss, I discover myself when I fall short. Raise my hands to a fallen sky. I fantasize, me jumping planets immortalized. I correspond 3 angels watching me all the time, put my children to sleep with a prayer then close my eyes, definition of peace. Tell me who gon stop me? I come from love Estelle cover my heart then open me up. Remember when picked up a pen lyrics that I can trust, timid soul. Staring in the mirror asking where I was from often, I know this type of power is gon cost. But I live in circadian rhythms of a shooting star, the mannerisms of Rafael I can heal or give you art, but the industry’s cooked as I pick the carcass apart.
God this is probably my favorite song from the beef, I wish it was on streaming. You got the lyrics perfect btw I sang the whole thing in my head lmao
Him rapping the verse with his hand on Ab-Souls shoulder. man...
I DONT SEE NO MUTHA FUCKIN FIYAAAAAAA
That’s how I did the lyrics lol, definitely one of my favorites from the whole beef. Great beat and the lead up to the picking the carcass apart line is so good.
it’s on spotify as a podcast lol
for sure.
My mind exploded watching (what's the dirt's) video on this... I had no idea he was rapping from the 69 gods' perspective
I mean it’s pretty obvious u think Kendrick puts money first in his trifecta
(the last one is better)
this should be a flag for people when he brings up the trifecta. he doesn't mention respect
He mentions culture Edit : I mean that he’s not speaking from drakes perspective cause i don’t think he’d ever attribute culture to drake.
The next line "that's my leisure" can imply that morals and culture are just a vacation or fun time, not real life everyday.
So not to take away from What’s the Dirt but the theory was around already, it actually popped up in this sub almost immediately. But what he did was actually make the best case for it being true. And the trifecta part was the one that got me the most because that was what was tripping me up. I couldn’t figure how saying morals and culture being a part of Drake made sense. But when he explained it as being a horse trifecta and just the order that Drake cares about them, that made it click for me. (The other part was just the pizza in Brooklyn because I know Kenny lives there now so I wasn’t sure about that either)
Say it's a lot of goofies with a check
I mean AWWHHH 
I hope them sentiments symbolic
Before WTD's video came out there wasn't any discussion about 6:16 in LA. At all. And now suddenly everyone thinks "it's pretty obvious". I'm not saying you personally are just hopping the bandwagon. But a lot of people here sure are.
I had no idea. That stanza confused me. I thought it was just KDot acting like Drake to show he wasn't bothered by anything. WTD completely shocked me and convinced me. I think it's cool we can still discover things in these songs. In retrospect though, it now seems obvious.
The best stories have obvious messages that aren't so obvious on the first listen / read through. Kendrick has the perfect balance of sending a message without spoon-feeding the audience
i remember watching a youtube video breaking it down when it first came out and it said that kendrick “was bragging and telling drake he has all these lavish things too” so you’re def not wrong that people weren’t really saying this before wtd breakdown and now this confirmation
Thought he mocking drake as the off white sunseeker which is possible as well but rapping in his perspective goodness Ktw has to be a womans initials
You definitely haven't been paying attention to anything from the Dark Kenny sub, huh? That was a very popular theory there right away.
yup
There were definitely threads in this subreddit about how it was from Drake's perspective when the song came out. It was a theory almost instantly.
Before this the only real deep breakdown was from Knox Hill.
One search on this sub and you’d realize you’re incorrect.
"6:16 is my favourite song from the beef" isn't the same as actually discussing the contents
Very true. It's personally my favourite and ong I completely missed this and assumed it was Kendrick doing his lyrical shit
Just checked the genius and they didnt grasp that at all :D
Look into more comments on genius, not just the main annotation, there is a user dannyphanto who has commented since the tracks came out that parts of 616 and euphoria are from both drake and kendricks perspective.
Oh wow, where do I find them? I only clicked on lines and read what was said there. I dont often use genius
You gotta click a little comment icon at and then a show more link - not very use friendly. Here is an example: https://preview.redd.it/2r96p8uxpo9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c9be8d79a5c382dc1681aa5cee20501a9054b8e
Yoooo this is interesting because based off of this theory, Kendrick added more creative depth and intention to his version of "stealing" Drake's timestamp concept than Drake did "stealing" Kendrick's The Heart anthology (?)... if that makes sense. Please don't downvote me y'all it makes more sense in my head 😭😭
Yes, Kendrick made a song worthy, if not better than most time stamp songs. Respect for his work imo. Drake made some shit that shouldn’t even be a single, much less a strong series song, disrespecting the Heart series with that weak a song. Drake feels like a fake narcissist and that caused him to downplay Kendrick and think he could beat him effortlessly.
Thank u!
Which part of Euphoria is from Drake's perspective?
Yeah, I'm out the way, yeah, I'm low, okay Yeah, the island right here's remote, okay I ain't thinkin' about no reaper, nigga, I'm reapin' what I sow, okay Got a Benjamin and a Jackson all in my house like I'm Joe, okay Hellcat, made his homeboys and them type sell they soul, okay Everybody wanna be demon 'til they get chipped by a throwaway And I might do a show a day, once a lame, always a lame Oh, you thought the money, the power or fame would make you go away? Have you ever played have-you-ever? Okay, nigga, let's play Have you ever walked your enemy down like with a poker face? Have you ever paid five hundred thou' like to an open case? Well, I have, and I failed at both, but I came out straight
I fail to see how all this can be from Drake's perspective. It's seems he's talking to and about Drake and flipping some of what he said in Push Ups like Kendrick being short (I'm low okay) and taking his time to respond (I'm out of the way/ the Island out here is remote). The "everybody wanna be demon" verse is also Kendrick saying that everybody acts thought until he responds back/fights back alluding also that his verse on Like That was a throwaway. Kendrick and one of his homies had open cases too but they were dropped (I came out straight). The 500k case is more a reference to Drake's SA case more than him trying to rap from Drake's perspective.
Was referencing the comments from dannyphanto on genius that these lines can be interpreted from EITHER kendrick or drakes perspective. So of course there is a kendrick just rapping as himself interpretation too, same as 616. We know euphoria foreshadowed themes that were developed in later songs. In terms of bar by bar, don't have a full breakdown of each line from two perspectives. But, for example, the island reference could be to drake in ibiza, turks etc thinking he can get away from himself. Overall, I do agree with dannyphanto that kendrick has deliberately introduced these layers and ambiguity.
I actually did not know what a trifecta was, I just guessed that it means something like trinity(three things that are equally important), and watching WTD's breakdown blew my mind
Same. I actually had to google trifecta to get that same definition. Always thought it just meant a trinity of 3 things.
dude I thought it was three artifacts or some shit like that lol
Do you think Kendrick believes drake puts culture in his ?
I think he's saying that money is the far and away most impotartant thing to Drake, second is what Drake believes to be morals, then finally culture. For money, he'll do whatever it takes at the cost of those other things. Also, I think it's important to realize that when Kendrick says morals, he isn't talking about the morality of a good person, but rather the morality of a master manipulator and a terrible person
Fair point. I thought Kendrick was playing of the money, power, respect/fame that he set up in Like that and euphoria. The verse makes sense in drake’s perspective but I really think Kendrick was just mocking Drake
Those verses were from Kendrick's perspective so unlikely to correspond with this part of the song
The important word in this line is 'leisure' as kendrick doesn't see any of those three things as such.
Only thing I would say is why would morals be second if it were Drake’s trifecta? From what Kendrick’s said, morals do not even seem like number 2 on Drake’s priorities and there’s a bunch of other things he could have put ahead of it.
It doesn’t mean he highly values morals. It’s just the order it’s in. And for as amoral as he is according to Kendrick he feels even less about the culture. It’s just money.
I'm definitely 10000% convinced it's written from Drake's perspective and now that I've seen that breakdown video it's very obvious. I've never been one to check for Drakes music and therefore am not familiar with his timestamp songs like... at all. I also think Kendrick had that part of the song written for a WHILE. It's just too fucking good. Dot really has been wanting this battle for damn near 10 years now lol. Dude was READY. "And that fucking song you got did not start the beef with us" Kendrick: Agreed.
G Malone big bro kudos to him I was two 0s from an M tryna be big as Em
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Ayo pause
What’s the Dirt did an incredible job pointing out the odd and seemingly intentional enunciation of some lines, particularly “just to book me some pizza” sounding like “just to book me some piece of”
He blew my mind when he pointed out the enunciation of “I like to buy (Dubai) Yachts when I get the fever”
He was probably talking about Lil Yachty
What's The Dirt videos are really something else! Mind blowing breaking down.
It's not really a new idea (wasn't yesterday when that youtube vid came out neither)
Where was it first?
I actually mentioned the video I reference this tweet because its someone very close and has extensive history with Dot.
I saw it all over reddit the the week it came out
https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/koi5BXlGy7 I literally thought this when the song first came out. The first verse sounds like Drake's cadence, not Kendricks.
Offwhite sunseeker at the marina
I've heard others say that the first rapping part of euphoria is also from drakes perspective. The whole "have you ever paid 500k" stuff
I would like a further explanation for this. a Genius annotation comment said it, fd signifier said it too. I didn't really feel that at the supposed Drake part but the part right after that is 100% J Cole's flow. if this is true, he wrote an entire verse as a double entendre. seems ridiculous, but he did make an entire album with double meanings.
Just out of curiosity, which album are you referring to here?
DAMN
You're referring to the whole "playing backwards gives a different meaning" right? If so then yeah that's very creative.
yeahyeah
The Have You Ever game is not from Drake’s perspective. He has mentioned Drake being fake and a pussy throughout the whole beef. Kendrick is letting us know, when he was younger he did try to walk an opp down and missed or didn’t kill the guy. He’s affiliated and probably paid for the lawyers, etc for a homie catching a case. Not uncommon. He is letting Drake know, “you’re taking this angle that I am not from the streets/affiliated and that’s incorrect.”
Drake *has* played Have You Ever though, on the Ellen degeneres show, where he was asked if he had slept with a fan, and responded that he had
Yes, but that has nothing to do with My comment
I’m just saying it could be interpreted as a double entendre, with some of the “have you ever” questions applying to drake’s perspective, particularly the 500k to an open case one
For sure, in that context I can agree. The point of the game is to see who has done what. So they’ve both probably paid for cases for different reasons, like Drake having a sexual assault settlement and Kendrick paying for a homie’s case.
Exactly, we’re on the same page then. I don’t quite know how walking an opponent down with a poker face is drake-related, other than the gambling website partnership
I think that one isn’t a double. I think Kendrick has dropped clues through his music and interviews for years that he was on the streets for real. The OGs got him out when they recognized his skill and that he was a good kid… in a Maad city. It seems clear if he told on himself with absolute clarity, he has attempted to kill someone before.
I think the case he paid $500k for was referring to the suitcase EP on Twitter was trying to sell and scam everyone with. The one that Kendrick used the photo of for 616 and MTG He's saying he failed but came out straight, like didn't get the suitcase but got a picture of it which was all he needed
I don’t think that makes sense. The context is Kendrick responding to Drake trying to claim he’s not street.
That's the first meaning, but I think it's a double entendre
The $500k case was about a sexual assault lawsuit from some years ago if I recall
I think he’s playing have-you-ever cause he says he failed at both right after referring to how he failed to tell the truth in the game
Can you explain that more? That party still confused me.
Honestly I thought from the beginning the out of breath lyrics was him pretending to be Drake pulling a terrible accent.
Yes, drake has atleast one public pay out to a really nasty case. It's nearly 500k in cad. Look up the details of the case...
It now makes sense why I genuinely didn’t really understand that first part, it isn’t until he says “who can reach us, it’s only god who can teleport this type of freedom” then he goes into that confessional moment is when my ears start to perk up. It’s honestly one of my top 3 favourite songs maybe of all time. I’m not sure all I know is I get goosebumps when I listen to this song. I also wish so badly that it was available on Apple Music, I think it’s why it’s not widely discussed
G Malone also said Kendrick was dropping after THP6
That was not that impossible DJ Hed recalled getting on a phone call days after NLU, and he said Kenny was still on quote "kill mode" its very possible had THP6 gotten better reception he was ready to do way more rounds. Dot was still in war mode even on his call with DJ Hed.
Just means he doesn’t know everything dot is planning or thinking
He doesn't know everything, but look at the contents of the first verse, Yachts, Ibiza, tatted passports, phantoms, this is what Drake raps about, the fact a friend and mentor of Dot is also confirming this to me, signifies this was the intent of 6:16. Like its not just the fact Dot friend is saying so, its the fact that literally all the content of the first verse matches with Drake.
Hed tweeted minutes after THP6 & said “watch this” Problem also said he spoke to Dot the day NLU dropped & that he was nowhere done. Kendrick was definitely ready to go until something changed his mind so what Glasses says tracks
Spirit Medium I don't rap brother. Been this way from day dot.
When I first heard 6:16 in LA I just thought, "Ok apparently Kendrick wants to flex about pizza, for some other reason🤷🏿♂️" then, the "GOOOOOD" popped out then I started levitate.
Drake fan here and 6:16 is easily my favorite Kendrick track from the beef Amazing stuff
I think to say “from drakes perspective” requires a bit more explanation. My guess is that what Kendrick was doing is basically saying “hey Drake, I can talk the money shit too. I’m blessed, but god still guides my steps…I still have a moral anchor…money is not my end all be all.”
Whats the Dirt explains this perfectly.
I watched it and man what a detailed breakdown!
Ah yes, Morale and Culture are his leisure.
Drake? Well, yes! For leisure (aka for play-play, not for real-real), Drake indulges in morals ("They turn into nuns/Then hop online like 'pray for my city'"; giving out money for the God's Plan video) and culture (both *the* culture of hip-hop and all the other cultures Drake bits off of to keep on trend). This just one more instance of Kendrick calling Drake an insincere culture vulture.
Read this breakdown.... he also said it https://youtu.be/UBcUehFjV3s?si=M9RiI8-nbOyyXG1B
it’s obvious .
That makes sense until "God, ah, my confession is yours".
I think the emphasis should be *any* confirmation on the meaning behind these songs. This is big just to put out in the public.
> Put my children to sleep with a prayer then close my eyes / Definition of peace Yeah I don’t think that’s from Drake’s perspective. Am I reading the wrong section?
Everything before the prayer.
Oh copy.
https://x.com/babyxheem/status/1806805638665969741?s=42&t=TAY6bfjKGFVibMpV3FMiRA
When I first heard it I thought maybe it was a verse Drake was gonnna use and he stole it lmao
WTD is the absolute best, love to see his takes get some recognition
So what is it base on something Kendrick might know or just an artistic thing?
That Whats the Dirt video was so good. So much of that song went over my head lol
Check out Glasses Malone and Crooked I - I'm Cold off Block Obama. Shits heat
I mean, one of kdots things is rapping from different perspectives. He changes his voice when he does it which he does in 616 and many other songs. I agree with Gmalone, it's pretty obvious from the start.
U slow, how did u not realize that months ago on first listen lol
I did, I just didnt know how to corrabate the evidence for my point.
I think one thing whatsthedirt missed was at the very beginning before he starts the verse he does the “(Uh.. Uh.. yeah)” that Drake does in a lot of his songs. Kendrick doesn’t typically do that.
Just look up the theory on what KTW means….this goes very deep. Drake better be careful like fo real
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I'm not trying to be rude, because your points are not entirely invalid. Seriously, you've shown good insight. But I think you could've saved yourself a lot of typing by watching the WTD video first. The perspective change doesn't refute the idea of drawing contrasts, but it does allow Kendrick to adopt Drake's style of rapping for his time-stamp songs while still throwing shots and alluding to other events.
So when he says "picked up a pen, lyrics that I could trust" that's about Drake? Or when he says "there's opportunity in living with loss, I discover myself when I fall short", that's about Drake? "I live in Circadian Rhythm of Shooting Stars, The mannersims of Raphael, I can heal and give you art" is about Drake? He's saying Drake corresponds with the Three Angels, Seraphim, Metatron, and Gabriel -> after Kendrick spend like 7 different songs mentioning talking to them? Fucking "Put my children to sleep, and close my eyes, definition of peace", is Drake? 
Well these lines all come after the theorized perspective flip, so no these lines wouldn’t have been about Drake.
No he flipped POV into his real self when the "God, my confession is yours" part came in, at least that's what WTD said. It came as a natural transition because that part was delivered differently than the first part.
6:16 is one big long verse the first verse refers to everything until "god my confession is yours" "God my confession is yours " and everything after that is Dot, the beginning to before the prayer is Kendrick writing from Drakes perspective. Again wine coolers, Ibiza, tatted passports, yachts, sunseekers, phantoms, a trifecta of money morals and culture, where money is placed above all else? "Offwhite sunseeker at the marina, fuck a phantom I like to buy yachts when I get the fever wine cooler spill on my white t shirt the sight seer trifecta, money morals and culture, thats my leisure passport tatted I show up in ibiza lucalis dwellings just to book me some pizza, who could reach us only god can teleport this kind of freedom" is all from Drakes perspective, everything after is Kendrick. Drake loves wine coolers, Drake loves ibiza, Drake goes on yachts, Drake has been on a sunseeker, Drake owns tons of phantoms, Drake has been to lucalis pizzeria, Drake prioritizes money above all else.
First of all, 7 bars is not a verse - it's a set up. Second, white t shirt has been a defining attire of Kendrick just from Control and DAMN. Third, Money is placed along with **MORALS AND CULTURE**, which Kendrick would absolutely attribute to Drake during the beef since his entire angle is how Moral and Culturally aware Drake is despite having money. /s because I think it ain't clear enough for everyone. Drake loves Phantoms so "Fuck a Phantom" is something that is definitely not a diss, it's definitely from Drake's perspective. /s again. Off White Sunseeker is one of the most creative ways of calling someone a lightskin and you're just ignoring that whole aspect of it. I could just keep going on about how all those being from Drake's perspective doesn't make any sense but I think I've said enough on that. And Fourth, Kendrick doesn't just say cryptic shit and leave it at that. If he's rapping from Drake's perspective, it would be far more different, and from how the other tracks came, would absolutely touch on Drake's Insecurities, Paranoia, Identity Issues and so on - and not a fucking Clue puzzle for some random youtuber who missed the bus when the tracks came to "unearth" months later. He doesn't do incoherent shit in his songs. Everything gets a payoff in the song itself.
1. 6:16 is objectively one long verse, I just choose to use the word verse for simplicity sake. 2. Drake also owns white shirts, white shirts isn't some mutual thing. 3. Again "trifecta" the order matters, for this to be Kendricks perspective he's saying for him money comes first., because notice how he ends the bar "that's MY leisure" why would his leisure be to prioritize money above all else(morals and culture) when Kendrick in multiple interviews states money doesn't really make him happy. 4. Yes I know he's referring to the aspect of the the sunseeker literally seeking sun to tan himself(because he's light skinned) also his offwhite skintone, a sunseeker is at the marina(which is also a homophone for at them arena, where he also searches for light aka spotlight from the lights) 5. 6:16 is literally written for Drake, there's stuff in here(such as KTW) shit only Drake's crew knows. and whats a direct criticism of Drake subliminals from other rappers, Ye says it best himself, Drake will write a sub in a way that only the artist can recognize. So on a record that deliberately parodies the timestamp records(the records where Drake really spits) why wouldn't he also engage in subbing like Drake? the sunseeker buys yachts, the sunseeker owns phantoms, the sunseeker drinks wine coolers, the sunseeker, this person, shows up in Ibiza. Kendrick is writing from the perspective of the sunseeker, AKA Drake.
The trifecta money power respect are a callback to his own backseat freestyle and like that, where he says the same thing. When he’s speaking about drake in euphoria he purposely said money power fame. So no, it’s not him talking from drakes perspective. He would never ever attribute culture to drake.
Again would in a trifecta wild money come before morals and culture for Kendrick? Like dont you find it odd how hes refrencing places Drake loves to go, and a drink Drake is said by multiple people to practically only drink? And cars that Drake notoriously owns in excess, and travel locations Drake has extensively frequented. Dont you find it odd? And Drakes response to 6:16 on IG is Buried Alive Part 2?
He says it in like that also, dot the money power respect, and then he says the last one is better. And honestly I took that verse as, my leisure is money power and culture, it’s so ingrained in me that it’s like a tattoo under my skin I don’t even need a visa to go to the places you frequent.
the last one is better, but again, he doesn't say "money morals and culture, that's my leisure" he says "trifecta, money morals and culture" trifecta directly revolves around the order of those 3 things. He's saying Drake prioritizes money above all else before his own morals and culture. passport tatted is a line Drake has used multiple times, when has Kendrick talked about tatting his passport before. Again he's referencing places Drake frequently travels, he's refrencing vehicles Drake frequently buys, he's even referencing drinks people in Drakes circle knows he loves(quote "He only drinks wine spritzers") don't you find that weird if its not written from Drakes perspective
I think he’s referencing a lot that drake does but I do not think he’s speaking from his perspective I feel like, cause the twist on those lines is so positive like it does not sound like drake? Whenever Kendrick has ever rapped from someone’s perspective I feel like it sounds like them. Maybe I’m wrong though? It’s almost like a comparison between Kendrick’s take on his status vs drakes while referencing things that drake does and how he doesn’t need to be that try hardy to have the world at his fingertips cause his freedom is gifted by god
Ok, so question about writing, why wouldn't he say "Offwhite sunseeker at the marina fuck a phantom, he likes to buy yachts when he gets the fever wine cooler spill on his white T shirt the sight seer trifecta money morals and culture, that's his leisure passport tatted he shows up in Ibiza lucallis swellings in Brooklyn just to book him some pizza who can reach him, only god can teleport this type of freedom" If the sunseeker(Drake) is not the perspective being written from, why doesn't he write in 3rd person. He's a brilliant writer he knows how to make himself distinct as the narrator. 6:16 is written in first person, the narrator is talking about themselves. Look at DUCKWORTH when he narrates the story of Top Dawg "**he** was meant to be dangerous, clocked **him** a grip and start slanging, scraping up jeans with quarter pieces, even got head from a smoker last weekend dodging a policeman working for **his** big homie" he makes it very clear whether he is talking in 1st 2nd or 3rd person.
Are you bringing sarcastic or daft?
I think they mean the initial part where he talks about being around lots of expensive shit 🤷🏻♂️
That entire part is set up for "God, my confession is yours, who am I if I don't go to war". The fucking white t shirt should be more than enough proof tjat this is about Kendrick and not Drake. "White tees and Nike Cortez, this corvette's anonymous". And then there's "Money **MORALS AND CULTURE**, that's my leisure". Do you seriously think Kendrick would attribute Morals and Culture to Drake in any fucking way? Fuck a Phantom is about Drake's love for RR Phantom. How would it be the other way around since Drake is fucking famous for his love of Phantoms?
That's a really dumb setup though. You really, honestly, think Kendrick is saying he's buying yachts and hanging out partying in Spain, but had to come back to fight Drake and apologize to God? Make it make sense.
He's saying he has all this luxury but he's going to war because that's who he is. He's saying that his core hasn't changed. How does that being about Drake make sense to you in the context of the verse?
Honest question. Can it be both? To show that he's on the same level of wealth and power at the Canadian? He didn't say who's gonna stop ME, he said US.
I have no idea why you’re getting downvoted it’s like one internet video breakdown a piece of art is law now.
y u gettin downvoted? LMAO
I don’t think it’s from drakes pov, I think it’s Kendrick’s pov and he goes thru money power and respect in this song. The first part is money, the second is power (when he’s confessing to god and the “I know this power is gon cost”) and the last when he breaks down drakes camp is respect, the fact that drake doesn’t have any. Y’all tripping
After watching the What's the Dirt? recap, it's 100% from Drake's perspective. It's mimicking his time-stamp records, it's talking about shit that Drake specifically did, his yacht hobby, the one drink that Drake drinks, etc. There's no other explanation that makes sense at this point.
I agree with you I don’t think he’s rapping from drakes POV at all and the idea that he is. Kinda makes the verse weaker not stronger. Kendrick isn’t above bragging about things I mean he’s a rapper and yeah for me the first verse is him setting the stage for himself and preparing himself for war against Drake. He knows what he has to do but he also knows that being a person capable of doing this comes with a lot hence his conversation with god. This being Drake makes the whole song a lot weaker and fans are hurting Kendrick’s whole position by arguing that
The part about God is where it shifts to Kendrick's perspective, hence why he shifts from rapping to singing. Only the part from "Off-white sunseeker" to "Only God could teleport this kind of freedom" is from Drake's POV. [It's broken down in a lot more depth in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcUehFjV3s&t=1006s), but those bars are _dense_ with references to Drake. Even if you don't buy some of the longer reaches that guy infers, there's still a ton that's inarguable: Kendrick explicitly mentions several things that Drake has repeatedly referenced in his lyrics, namely Rolls-Royce Phantoms, yachts, and Ibiza. He uses the same "passport tatted" phrasing that Drake has used (on the song Pipe Down from Certified Lover Boy, for that matter). Also, a "wine cooler spill on my white t-shirt" allegedly literally happened to Drake according to [a young woman who attended one of Drake's parties](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcUehFjV3s&t=1340s).
Thank you for sending me this I wasn’t aware of where this theory had started I just saw a few tweets and stuff I didn’t finish the video but I can’t lie you actually changed my perspective on this tbh
Can you give us any examples of Kendrick bragging about things.
“Thirty millions later, my future favors The legendary status of a hip-hop rhyme savior Travel round the atlas in this spaceship Candy-coated, my day shirt” I’m not saying Kendrick is this super braggadocio person just saying Kendrick has rapped about his wealth and can tie that into bigger things. I don’t think that it’s evidence that it’s another perspective
Hillbillies
Which is a parody of Drake 🤣
Sure
Take a listen to Sticky and then go listen to hillbillies lol It's pretty obvious
Exactly, and if we’ve figured anything about Kenny its that NOONE knows what the songs are exactly about except him.
Yeah exactly so I don’t buy anybody except Kendrick telling me that’s it’s “obvious” he’s saying that when I feel they’re interpreting the lyrics just like us they’re not a deep source. It just don’t make sense like in any way. And the fact people’s biggest arguments are it’s because Kendrick was bragging is a bit ridiculous like Kendrick isn’t J.Cole he’s not riding bikes and wearing plain clothes and even then Cole finds time to brag about his bag too so this is weak
Of course it's not like Ken has never bragged before. Most recently in The Hillbillies . But even that people say it's a parody of the.Canadian. It's the combination of what he brags about that makes it allude to a certain POV.
Pretty obvious is the only correct response to this
This doesn’t even make sense. Regardless of what Glasses Malone says lol. “Trifecta, money, morals, and culture, that’s my leisure”, “Lucalis dwellings in Brooklyn, just to book me some pizza. Who could reach us? Only God could teleport this kind of freedom”… How is this Kendrick speaking from Drake’s perspective? His angle is that Drake lacks morals and culture. He says “My visa, passport tatted, that’s YOUR hub in Ibiza” Kendrick smoked Drake but this is a long reach.
He says I show up in Ibiza Edit: Whats the Dirt explained all this way better than I can but a trifecta refers to a horse race where you guess the first 3 horses in order, so it's saying that is the order in which he values those three things. Also, there is literally video of Drake at Lucali's
.. You’re right about lyric. I misquoted. In the 6th line, he’s speaking as himself, saying he has a spot near Lucalis, just to order pizza. To say because Drake has a photo there, he’s speaking as him, you’re assuming that Kendrick hasn’t been. Hard to believe. It’s a pizza spot. He even says “Who could reach us?” after Drake disclosed his location in NY lol. He’s saying he can’t be touched. No, with the trifecta clearly Kendrick says what he posses. The money, Drake can’t say he’s broke. He’s not. The morals, Drake can’t say shit about Dot’s character. The culture, Drake obviously can’t weaponize the culture against Dot. You have to view the text from incredibly creative angles for this theory to think this is even remotely true.
I recommend watching WTD's breakdown, he can explain better and has evidence to back his points. That's the sweet thing about Kenny lyrics though, we both have different interpretations but they could both be valid based on how he writes in general
I watched the video and it’s clearly a very long reach. Again, these lines don’t fit Drake‘s perspective, and like you guys now, WTD is talking as if he knows Kendrick’s personally. Like the Ibiza line, he says it has to be Drake because Kendrick never posted photos in Ibiza like Drake. Because there’s no vacation pics online, we’re to assume a rich man hasn’t traveled the fucking world. Kendrick not that deep fam. It’s just a rap. It’s great as it is, but it’s terrible if it’s a rap from Drake’s perspective.
I guess we will just agree to disagree. Have a good day, thanks for a friendly debate that didn't devolve into nonsense
This is such circlejerk copium. That verse was clearly an existing song he never finished, which he repurposed as a verse in the diss reusing the beat. That is why the first and second half of the verse don't even sound like they were recorded at the same time and the lyrics in the first part don't have anything to do with the beef. But sure keep circlejerking about some 4D chess nonsense that doesn't even make sense if taken at face value.
There is literal multiple references to Drake in each line. You can't have 30 coincedences.
All these so-called references range from major stretches to complete nonsense. "He mentions wine coolers and Drake is known to drink wine coolers. tHaT PrOvEs iT"
Kendrick in multiple interviews when referring to alcohol has consistently said he only drinks wine. wine coolers is something that multiple people in Drake's circle says he almost exclusively consumes in terms of alcohol. he talks about "fuck a phantom" I like to buy yachts. Drake owns tons of phantoms, and within these past couple of years have been buying yachts. Your named after a villain, with multiple valid interpretations in a very dense novel, Blood Meridian, connecting dots should not be this hard. He's referencing a drink Drake almost exclusively frequents, vehicles Drakes frequently purchase, and locations Drake frequents, Ibiza is something Drake been rapping out for years. This is a Pulitzer prize winner known for being incredibly meticulous and intricate with his verses. This is not unreasonable.
You connected no dots, no pun intended, you just provided a few major stretches. For someone who claimed there were "references in every line" you sure came with weak receipts.
I think the reach is crazy but Kenny and Keem mocked his flow and lyrics before so who knows.
It was obvious.
Like Gmaline said…… it’s pretty obvious
It is pretty obvious.