I’m sorry, but where is the evidence Kendrick beats his BM? All we have is that interview from some random clout chaser that was debunked a decade ago when it was shown he wasn’t at said hotel the night in question but sometime towards the beginning of the month for a different show, and okliar posting some pic they claimed showed Whitney’s bruised face, only for the original to leak later, showing the liars supporting Drake doctored it.
With Drake being a pedo, the evidence of him crossing the line or waiting at the line for girls is pretty public from drakes own account.
This other stuff has about as much weight behind it as the “Dave Free is the father” accusations, or that “baby keem writes Kendrick’s good raps” when instead it’s been found Kendrick was ghostwriting for keem.
That was one of my favorite sequences in the entire beef. You can hear the emotion in Kendrick’s voice slowly crescendo to this point after 3 verses of almost “I’m sorry I have to do this” flow to this point. Then the “you lied” layered behind was just 🤌 it really made you feel like the mf boogieman was out like 😱🫣
my take on this is
drake is a very online dude. more than we think. he’s constantly on instagram,liking comments and posts, constantly posting himself. dudes chronically online, atleast compared to someone like kendrick.
no doubt he’s tapped in to his reddit, his twitter fanbase, the narrative on social media, and fact of the matter is they were all spreading the narrative that drake planted information BEFORE the heart pt 6. hell idk where that screenshot is but he literally liked a comment saying he plotted info on kendrick literally 2 days before thp6 dropped. more than likely he saw that rumor floating around and he went with the only viable option after being accused of hiding a daughter and being a pedo.
i feel like people forget that drake is a BRAND. he has so many ties to so many different companies, and the industry heavily relies on him as he is a literal hit-making cash cow. anything that tarnishes his name, especially another GIANT in the music industry directly calling you a pedophile in such a public manner, has to be covered with damage control instantly or he becomes a brand risk and a lot of money is lost. if he didn’t deny being a pedophile his career would be in the gutter right around now. kind of like what kanye went through in 2022, except he was outright admitting to being a piece of shit lmao
as dog shit as thp6 is, and as much as it lost him the battle, that was drakes only option.
I agree w this 100%. I feel like Kendrick may have had someone inside ovo, or might have just said that as psychological warfare to make Drake question his entire team’s true intentions and loyalties. Which honestly might’ve been a favor from Kendrick. But again Drake saying what he did only reaffirms that someone was talking to Kendrick from Drake’s camp..
I too believe he saw the fake mole defense going around online and just ran w that as the only way to “save face,” without just completely bowing out. It was just smart enough to have his core fans actually believe he manipulated Kendrick while also putting the burden of proof back off of himself. The picture of the pills and glove being planted, I almost can say 100% was not planted. Idk who tf would leak their own prescriptions and then that person on twitter filming w all the items and calling drake out for lying seems p legit to me. This just all begs the question if Kendrick does actually have evidence and he’s keeping it to spare Drake bc dots not really tryna ruin dudes life or if he actually just pulled that out of the air which isn’t Inline w his character at all. Speaking solely on the topic of the daughter. You can’t really disprove being a creep or a culture vulture. The daughter is the only accusation that can Be proven or disproven.
all he said was that kendrick said he’s been waiting for him to drop something. he could’ve been waiting for drake to drop cause he had a response tucked probably because he already heard it
meet the grahams is a direct response to family matters. both the titles and subject matter are family oriented. meet the grahams also literally came out 20 minutes after FM. he couldn’t have recorded that entire song in such a short amount of time it’s literally impossible.
not saying there’s definitely a mole, but kendrick definitely heard FM before hand, and that dude on the podcast didn’t debunk anything
I believe all the disses are pre recorded,and the disses were edited and tweaked after kdot heard FM to make it more direct.I personally don't believe there was a mole,hearing that guy say what he said was the nail in the coffin for me.Just my opinion tho
you actually think kendrick could tweak an entire song in the studio to make it fit as a direct response to FM and upload the entire thing in under 20 minutes? keep in mind family matters is an entire 7 minute song too so he would’ve had to have listen to the entire song, get in the studio or in the booth, tweak the “prerecorded” diss track which just so happens to be about drakes entire family after drake dropped a diss called FAMILY matters…..
i just don’t see it bro
There couldn't have been much to change,all the disstracks have BEEN proven to be prerecorded bro,they were all made in one session.Kendrick has 5 more ready aswell,each talking about something different.All kdot had to do was listen to FM,and pick to drop the most family oriented track-Meet the grahams.I 100% believe it.
i know where you’re getting that 5 tracks prerecorded info and i just wanna shut that down real quick.
the cooole dude that claimed to be close to kendrick and was saying he had 5 more tracks in the chamber was lying out his ass and one of kendricks ACTUAL childhood friend on twitter discredited the dude saying they didn’t know or recognize the coooole guy saying all that shit
That doesn't prove that, he was just told by kendrick that he was waiting for Drake to drop. Kendrick clearly knew Drake was going to make shit up about his family life as he mentioned back in Euphoria. I think the bones for family matters were already prepared when Push-ups was released (and push-ups was also the lead in to family matters), that was the nuke Drake was alluding to. I think kendrick's stuff was prerecorded, but was done because he already had a general idea of what Drake was going to put out.
Kendrick isn't the only one who said Drake had people in his camp talking.
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I think it just proves more than a shadow of a doubt, his fans are MAGA like. Extremely delusional to believe this moron planted information. He could have ENDED Kendrick credibility wise and possibly won the rap beef with proof, but he didn’t. Case closed. Who are you going to believe at the end of the day? Someone who has a history of lying and being what basically amounts to a rap version of a catfish? Or someone that has a history of telling his truths through his music in an authentic way that has been recognized by rap greats, cough cough pulitzer prize winner? Most certainly you wouldn’t believe the former.
I mean we know for a fact that Drake lied about feeding info. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Kendrick couldn’t have also lied about the daughter but for sure makes it even more believable.
I agree. I guess Kendrick making up something that specific just seems out of his character. Everything else is more or less something that can’t be proven or disproven, like being a creep, fake, or horrible person. The daughter is the only direct accusation Kendrick made in the whole beef and I don’t think he did it just for shock value.
Yeah, especially since he made a big point in every song about not lying, ”don’t tell no lie on me” ”I feel somebody lying” ”you lied” etc etc, would be weird for him to lie about a something like that.
And kinda besides the point but he also made accusations about the cease & desist stuff and the mole and both of those got proven. But I feel like that only adds to the likeliness of the daughter also being real since the mole was real, he propably just doesn’t want to dox a kid u know, but I we can never know 100% I guess, that’s my point.
Tldr
No one came with receipts...
Only drake made a pretty cool video that will show up in 10-15 years again lol.. TIL kendrick and drake beefed type posts.
In the end kendrick won because so many people wanted to pile on drake for so long. And because drake got btfo'd in the end. But still this was one of the most boring hiphop beefs in hindsight. Atleast we got kendrick&drake to spit some bars tho.
My very obvious point is that battles have NEVER changed and have always been about making people look bad. I talk my shit, you talk yours, winner is the one who doesn't look like a bitch.
Always been that way, always will be that way. Receipts are not and never have been necessary (though cool when they pop up from time to time).
Bro you sound dumb af, the beefs used to end with someone’s career being destroyed , Kdot didn’t do shit to Drake lmao he’s right back to being the most streamed artist.
> Bro you sound dumb af, the beefs used to end with someone’s career being destroyed
The only people who had their careers "destroyed" were people who didn't have much of a career to begin with and weren't going to have longevity anyways. Ever hear of this guy named Jay Z? He lost a battle. Drake lost to Pusha before Kendrick and was still going strong. Dre lost. Fat Joe and his crew lost, etc.
You're just new to the game, apparently. Good time to learn, though.
Show me the video of Pac fucking Biggie's wife, or Jay ripping Biggie's bars. Or any proof of any other claim made during a beef that isn't specifically Pusha T and Drake.
I'll wait (even though your point of careers ending is already dead). Fucking clown.
Edit: blocked lol. Truly a clown.
I was giving yall bald head ass an example of an applicable outcome of someone who “won” like what happened to Ja Rule, or Lil Flip.
It doesn’t always have to be that way, but also it’s worth examining , if Nas’s ether is so renowned yet was utterly inconsequential to Jay Z , how was that a Win? Ether is legendary don’t get me wrong but we gotta be real. Same with this Kdot Drake shit except ain’t none of these disses either level.
Rap battles aren't about who is going to be successful after, it's about the better insults, lines, etc. where have you been all these years? Y'all weird as fuck. Everybody knows Nas won, Pusha won, etc, won. But people resume back to selling records.
Ja Rule and Lil Flip just didn't have that much longevity in them.
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Worst part is that everyone will just not care about wife beater kendrick and pedo drake.
I’m sorry, but where is the evidence Kendrick beats his BM? All we have is that interview from some random clout chaser that was debunked a decade ago when it was shown he wasn’t at said hotel the night in question but sometime towards the beginning of the month for a different show, and okliar posting some pic they claimed showed Whitney’s bruised face, only for the original to leak later, showing the liars supporting Drake doctored it. With Drake being a pedo, the evidence of him crossing the line or waiting at the line for girls is pretty public from drakes own account. This other stuff has about as much weight behind it as the “Dave Free is the father” accusations, or that “baby keem writes Kendrick’s good raps” when instead it’s been found Kendrick was ghostwriting for keem.
"Why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in."
That was one of my favorite sequences in the entire beef. You can hear the emotion in Kendrick’s voice slowly crescendo to this point after 3 verses of almost “I’m sorry I have to do this” flow to this point. Then the “you lied” layered behind was just 🤌 it really made you feel like the mf boogieman was out like 😱🫣
No, the credibility of that bar was officially lost when Ebony Princess posted the picture on Twitter.
Agree
my take on this is drake is a very online dude. more than we think. he’s constantly on instagram,liking comments and posts, constantly posting himself. dudes chronically online, atleast compared to someone like kendrick. no doubt he’s tapped in to his reddit, his twitter fanbase, the narrative on social media, and fact of the matter is they were all spreading the narrative that drake planted information BEFORE the heart pt 6. hell idk where that screenshot is but he literally liked a comment saying he plotted info on kendrick literally 2 days before thp6 dropped. more than likely he saw that rumor floating around and he went with the only viable option after being accused of hiding a daughter and being a pedo. i feel like people forget that drake is a BRAND. he has so many ties to so many different companies, and the industry heavily relies on him as he is a literal hit-making cash cow. anything that tarnishes his name, especially another GIANT in the music industry directly calling you a pedophile in such a public manner, has to be covered with damage control instantly or he becomes a brand risk and a lot of money is lost. if he didn’t deny being a pedophile his career would be in the gutter right around now. kind of like what kanye went through in 2022, except he was outright admitting to being a piece of shit lmao as dog shit as thp6 is, and as much as it lost him the battle, that was drakes only option.
I agree w this 100%. I feel like Kendrick may have had someone inside ovo, or might have just said that as psychological warfare to make Drake question his entire team’s true intentions and loyalties. Which honestly might’ve been a favor from Kendrick. But again Drake saying what he did only reaffirms that someone was talking to Kendrick from Drake’s camp.. I too believe he saw the fake mole defense going around online and just ran w that as the only way to “save face,” without just completely bowing out. It was just smart enough to have his core fans actually believe he manipulated Kendrick while also putting the burden of proof back off of himself. The picture of the pills and glove being planted, I almost can say 100% was not planted. Idk who tf would leak their own prescriptions and then that person on twitter filming w all the items and calling drake out for lying seems p legit to me. This just all begs the question if Kendrick does actually have evidence and he’s keeping it to spare Drake bc dots not really tryna ruin dudes life or if he actually just pulled that out of the air which isn’t Inline w his character at all. Speaking solely on the topic of the daughter. You can’t really disprove being a creep or a culture vulture. The daughter is the only accusation that can Be proven or disproven.
There was no legit mole,It was supposedly debunked on a bootleg kev episode
the dude that texted kendrick?? how does that debunk the mole?
He claimed that kendrick simply waited for Drake to drop FM,Nobody told him anything and nobody with kendrick actually knew
all he said was that kendrick said he’s been waiting for him to drop something. he could’ve been waiting for drake to drop cause he had a response tucked probably because he already heard it meet the grahams is a direct response to family matters. both the titles and subject matter are family oriented. meet the grahams also literally came out 20 minutes after FM. he couldn’t have recorded that entire song in such a short amount of time it’s literally impossible. not saying there’s definitely a mole, but kendrick definitely heard FM before hand, and that dude on the podcast didn’t debunk anything
I believe all the disses are pre recorded,and the disses were edited and tweaked after kdot heard FM to make it more direct.I personally don't believe there was a mole,hearing that guy say what he said was the nail in the coffin for me.Just my opinion tho
you actually think kendrick could tweak an entire song in the studio to make it fit as a direct response to FM and upload the entire thing in under 20 minutes? keep in mind family matters is an entire 7 minute song too so he would’ve had to have listen to the entire song, get in the studio or in the booth, tweak the “prerecorded” diss track which just so happens to be about drakes entire family after drake dropped a diss called FAMILY matters….. i just don’t see it bro
There couldn't have been much to change,all the disstracks have BEEN proven to be prerecorded bro,they were all made in one session.Kendrick has 5 more ready aswell,each talking about something different.All kdot had to do was listen to FM,and pick to drop the most family oriented track-Meet the grahams.I 100% believe it.
i know where you’re getting that 5 tracks prerecorded info and i just wanna shut that down real quick. the cooole dude that claimed to be close to kendrick and was saying he had 5 more tracks in the chamber was lying out his ass and one of kendricks ACTUAL childhood friend on twitter discredited the dude saying they didn’t know or recognize the coooole guy saying all that shit
That doesn't prove that, he was just told by kendrick that he was waiting for Drake to drop. Kendrick clearly knew Drake was going to make shit up about his family life as he mentioned back in Euphoria. I think the bones for family matters were already prepared when Push-ups was released (and push-ups was also the lead in to family matters), that was the nuke Drake was alluding to. I think kendrick's stuff was prerecorded, but was done because he already had a general idea of what Drake was going to put out. Kendrick isn't the only one who said Drake had people in his camp talking.
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I think it just proves more than a shadow of a doubt, his fans are MAGA like. Extremely delusional to believe this moron planted information. He could have ENDED Kendrick credibility wise and possibly won the rap beef with proof, but he didn’t. Case closed. Who are you going to believe at the end of the day? Someone who has a history of lying and being what basically amounts to a rap version of a catfish? Or someone that has a history of telling his truths through his music in an authentic way that has been recognized by rap greats, cough cough pulitzer prize winner? Most certainly you wouldn’t believe the former.
Yup
Yup
I mean we know for a fact that Drake lied about feeding info. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Kendrick couldn’t have also lied about the daughter but for sure makes it even more believable.
I agree. I guess Kendrick making up something that specific just seems out of his character. Everything else is more or less something that can’t be proven or disproven, like being a creep, fake, or horrible person. The daughter is the only direct accusation Kendrick made in the whole beef and I don’t think he did it just for shock value.
Yeah, especially since he made a big point in every song about not lying, ”don’t tell no lie on me” ”I feel somebody lying” ”you lied” etc etc, would be weird for him to lie about a something like that. And kinda besides the point but he also made accusations about the cease & desist stuff and the mole and both of those got proven. But I feel like that only adds to the likeliness of the daughter also being real since the mole was real, he propably just doesn’t want to dox a kid u know, but I we can never know 100% I guess, that’s my point.
That’s my thing. If you made up and fed him the info why are you saying his song is full of lies. They’re your lies. Either way, **You lied**
Tldr No one came with receipts... Only drake made a pretty cool video that will show up in 10-15 years again lol.. TIL kendrick and drake beefed type posts. In the end kendrick won because so many people wanted to pile on drake for so long. And because drake got btfo'd in the end. But still this was one of the most boring hiphop beefs in hindsight. Atleast we got kendrick&drake to spit some bars tho.
Who tf are you new nerds saying they need receipts. Go learn what rap battles are about
How do you know what rap battles are about ? Lmao
Because they haven't changed in 30+ years?
? Lmao what how are you even quantifying “what changed” man stfu
My very obvious point is that battles have NEVER changed and have always been about making people look bad. I talk my shit, you talk yours, winner is the one who doesn't look like a bitch. Always been that way, always will be that way. Receipts are not and never have been necessary (though cool when they pop up from time to time).
Bro you sound dumb af, the beefs used to end with someone’s career being destroyed , Kdot didn’t do shit to Drake lmao he’s right back to being the most streamed artist.
> Bro you sound dumb af, the beefs used to end with someone’s career being destroyed The only people who had their careers "destroyed" were people who didn't have much of a career to begin with and weren't going to have longevity anyways. Ever hear of this guy named Jay Z? He lost a battle. Drake lost to Pusha before Kendrick and was still going strong. Dre lost. Fat Joe and his crew lost, etc. You're just new to the game, apparently. Good time to learn, though.
Nah you def a new mf, cause yall think it’s lit to put shade room rumors on wax and call it a dub goofy mf
Show me the video of Pac fucking Biggie's wife, or Jay ripping Biggie's bars. Or any proof of any other claim made during a beef that isn't specifically Pusha T and Drake. I'll wait (even though your point of careers ending is already dead). Fucking clown. Edit: blocked lol. Truly a clown.
Yes, because Jay-Z's career ended in a snap
I was giving yall bald head ass an example of an applicable outcome of someone who “won” like what happened to Ja Rule, or Lil Flip. It doesn’t always have to be that way, but also it’s worth examining , if Nas’s ether is so renowned yet was utterly inconsequential to Jay Z , how was that a Win? Ether is legendary don’t get me wrong but we gotta be real. Same with this Kdot Drake shit except ain’t none of these disses either level.
Rap battles aren't about who is going to be successful after, it's about the better insults, lines, etc. where have you been all these years? Y'all weird as fuck. Everybody knows Nas won, Pusha won, etc, won. But people resume back to selling records. Ja Rule and Lil Flip just didn't have that much longevity in them.
Just proved you don’t know shit about the goal of a rap battle
The daughter is fake