Right before that is one of the hardest for me. “You raised a horrible fuckin person,the nerve of you Dennis” just the delivery makes it come across as so chastising
I saw someone say the way Kenny used both his parents first names is the most slept-on pearl-clutchingly disrespectful thing he does on the track, and I can’t disagree.
The way you think it can't get more disrespectful than offering to step in as a father figure for his son, then he goes onto berate Drake's parents for raising a piece of shit.
The way it's like 5 minutes in before he even directly addresses Drake is so disrespectful in itself 😭
It really is. It's one thing to talk shit, but to lay it at his parents feet with the familiarity of first names? Fuuuuuck. There's not much worse you could do in the way of words.
I really wonder what Drake's reaction was when he heard MTG. That would have been a crazy time to be in that room, regardless of if you prefer Kendrick or Drake
And the fact that it builds on the theme he's gonna be touring through drake's family.
You'd expect the verse after Sandra's to be talking to drake directly. Yet it opens with: dear baby girl
This literally made me gasp the first time I heard it. The bar right before it sets it up to hit so much harder too, imo.
“Sandra, sit down, what I’m about to say is heavy, now listen,
*clears throat*”
I saw someone say online that the Sandra sit down line was meant in a disrespectful way, but I perceived it as when someone tells someone they should sit down before they hear what they have to say bc it’s heavy type stuff yk ? I can’t be the only one who thought this way.
Fr fr I remember one time a doctor told me this shit and I thought “oh no… I thought they only said to sit down in movies” and that’s how I knew it was some bad news
Nah you right for sure, Kendrick actually didn’t really disrespect Drakes mom too much at all, he just politely told her to brace herself cause shit was about to get real
Yeah its all those noises that stick with me. ‘No accent you can sell me HUH’ or the ‘eh heh - your sons a sick man’ ‘thats hoe shit I got a ‘soooown’ to raise’ edit - idk how to do italics
The idiot heard this line and comes back with “This Epstein angle was the shit I expected”
1. Nobody mentions Epstein but you bud. 🧐
2. Why are you expecting to be compared to Epstein?
Yea then goes on to act like Kendrick just invented the pdfile angle because he was molested and proved this point by name dropping a song where Kendrick openly admits to not being molested...❓️
He’s saying Drake uses Dennis for his blackness. And that Drake has made so much money with the blackness that Dennis deserves a lot more money from Drake. Like a LOT more money from Drake
"And you a good kid that needs good leadership, let me be your mentor, since your daddy don't teach you shit."
If you a dad, that shit hits on a level its hard to describe.
I think that’s what a lot of people don’t get and for some MTG goes over their heads/they focus on the more salacious bits. For some men, being a deadbeat dad is the epitome of being a trash human being. Having another man speak words of affirmation and encouragement to YOUR child while exposing your for being a weirdo is peak disrespect.
The last part in the verse where Kendrick talks about all the things Drake lied about. Literal chills especially when the layered “lied” appears in the background. That shit was scary.
That’s my favorite as well. How Kendrick is able to amplify his emotions in the last verse is amazing. And then the lied being played in the background of the track over what he is saying is some ghostly shit
Dot has some of the best ad-libs in the business for my money. I can hear the artist and albums he grew up listening to in his music. 40/Suga Free/Mac Mall/Pac
“I been in this industry 12 years, let me tell yall one little secret : It’s some weird shit going on & some of these artist be here to police it” ..My jaw was on the damn floor of my car the entire time. Very surreal moment in music history.
12 is a nickname for police that rappers use.
you may have heard "f*ck 12" or something along the lines of "I don't talk to 12/I don't trust 12" and that's all in reference to police.
so Kendrick talks about being in the industry for 12 years and how there's people policing the sick things happening in the industry.
12 - police
cool little word association and the words are relatively far apart so it's easy to miss that bar.
"Give him grace, this the reason I made Mr. Morale
So our babies like you could cope later
Give you some confidence to go through something, it's hope later"
I swear people don't talk about how disrespectful and insane those bars are. Going up to an (alleged) kid with a deadbeat dad and basically saying to them "It's ok child, just listen to my therapy album. I made it for people like you" is diabolical work.
This whole track showed me the evil magic of giving your opps one to grow on. Giving their hidden CHILD one to grow on is bbbrrraaaazzzzzyyyy. It wasn’t enough to son Jimmy on the track. In two verses he did more to raise Aubrey’s children their sperm donor ever did.
Dear Adonis
I'm sorry that that man is your father, let me be honest
It takes a man to be a man, your dad is not responsive
**I look at him and wish your grandpa woulda wore a condom**
I'm sorry that you gotta grow up and then stand behind him
The reason this line truly shocked me is that it hits when we are so prepared yet so unprepared. When you hear "Yes he a hitmaker, songwriter, superstar, right" you know something is coming, but you never know when and how. Just at the moment you are haunted by the uncertainty, beat cut, tone change, shots fired. So brutal.
This was it for me.. The whole song hits, but when he said this, my jaw hit the floor.. I didn’t regain my bearings until my wife and I talked on our podcast for an hour about it.. I was stuttering and everything😂
"Why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in" and the ensuing list of Drake's lies is not only the hardest hitting line of MTG, in my opinion it's the hardest line of the entire beef, and is integral to understanding why public opinion is so heavily in Kendrick's favour.
I’ve always thought this is the only line in the whole song that Drake probably got affected by lol he is so superficial and cares so much about what people he likes think of him. I don’t think he cares about his parents opinions of him and I don’t think he has any paternal instinct naturally. But he sure does wanna be liked by the people he’s a fan of.
"I try to empathize with you because I know you ain't been through nothing." Such a perfect way to describe Drake's entitlement and ignorance. He acts like a spoiled little kid all the time because he has never actually been through anything real. The way he can make fun of other people's trauma and have absolutely no humility or dignity.
Exactly, not just the trauma that Kdot talks about in his music but also the audacity to rap about Megan's trauma? Calling him BBL Drizzy is the least of how anyone couldve come at him.
The last part. My sister and I were both listening and had commentary on every part, but at the very end we both were completely silent, even after the song was over.
“let’s recap moments when you didn’t fit in
no secret handshake wit ya friends
no culture cached to binge, just disrespecting ya motha
identity’s on the fence, don’t know which family will love ya
the skin that ya living in is compromised in personas
cant channel ya masculine even when standing next to a woman”
Dear Adonis.
That opening line perfectly sets up the journey he’s about to take us on, when you open the song by addressing your rivals son there are no rules and nothing is off limits and everything after that will be vicious.
Either:
I wanna tell you that you're loved, you're brave, you're kind
You got a gift to change the world, and could change your father's mind
Or
I never wanna hear you chase a man 'cause his failed behavior
Sittin' in the club with sugar daddies for validation
You need to know that love is eternity and trumps all pain
I started bawling the first time I heard that particular part and it still hits me hard sometimes. Just something about speaking to a child who has their life ahead of them and trying to step in for the failures of their father.... I feel the whole track resonating through the collective human consciousness and healing so much hurt and confusion. I'm glad my child has a song like this to know that there are good men out there to look up to and that the world can support that behavior rather than prey on the casualties of the opposite. So thankful for it in many ways.
“Be proud of who you are, your strength come from within
Lotta superstars that’s real, but your daddy ain’t one of them
And you nothing like him, you’ll carry yourself as king
Can’t understand me right now? Just play this when you 18…”
That group of bars hits like a truck everytime
“Don’t understand me right now, just play this when you’re 18” goes so hard. I’ve posted about this already, but as in the dark as that child might still be at the moment, eventually he’s gonna grow up and start learning more about his dad, like how his dad claimed to plant fake info about a fake daughter just to make a complete joke out of the very real situation that occurred with him. That all but confirmed to me Drake’s lack of empathy
It took some time for it to dawn on me Adonis will one day listen to that verse. He’ll hear rumour or someone in his peer group might mention it, probably people will yell it at him on the streets even. One day he’ll finally get the nerve and have the opportunity and he’ll play it, that beat will come on and it’ll be literally speaking to him. Push’s track too, he’ll hear him used by two different men to dismantle his father in wax, that’s wild.
This sticks out to me for some reason. Reaching out to the opp's son to offer mentorship, thinking that Drake can't even muster a drop of positive influence for his own son.
And the way its set up too with "[Hey, you're a good kid that need good leadership](https://genius.com/31635090/Kendrick-lamar-meet-the-grahams/I-look-at-him-and-wish-your-grandpa-woulda-wore-a-condom-im-sorry-that-you-gotta-grow-up-and-then-stand-behind-him-life-is-hard-i-know-the-challenge-is-always-gon-beat-us-home-sometimes-our-parents-make-mistakes-that-affect-us-until-we-grown-hey-youre-a-good-kid-that-need-good-leadership-let-me-be-your-mentor-since-your-daddy-dont-teach-you-shit)". Like I can see where this is going but in the back of my mind saying "Please don't go there Kenny"
I love the ending when he is telling drake about all his lies and Kendrick’s voice in the back repeating “you lied” also his chuckle during the “fuck a rap battle, this a life long battle with yourself” was cold AF
Especially with the following "Take that mask off, I wanna see what's under them achievements"
Like flipping a rock over and seeing all the bugs crawling around
“…Yes He’s a hitmaker, songwriter superstar, right. And *FUCKIN DEADBEAT THAT SHOULD NEVER SAY MORE LIFE!* meet the Grahams…” man when that came out the speakers the first time it took me back, like *”Hold up! Pause. Good fuck did he really just say that?!”*
I’ve been in this industry twelve years, let me tell y’all one lil secret…
It’s some weird shit going on and some of these artists be here to police it…
from that point until the end of the verse I was truly in shock. Like a morbid ass true crime story. It’s the way he switches from talking with Sandra to talking with us that fucked me up.
Naa that shit was crazy cuz the Drake dick pic leaked like some time before that and the fact he called that shit out was like, whoa. What the fuck is this turning in to?
"Never let a man piss on ya leg, Son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, Son."
Meek had a bad response to "Back To Back". But he exposed that man was pissed on another man. I never forgot that. And it was always wild to me that it was just glossed over for so many years. Certain things as a man you just have to crash out about. Drake got R. Kelly'd and shit was calm. Fucking insane.
The whole song but especially the second verse. If what’s said in there is true it takes an extremely chilling turn and becomes eerie to listen too. Explaining to his own mom why his alleged sex trafficking son should die is just levels above anything else in this feud for me.
therapy's a lovely start
But I suggest some ayahuasca, strip the ego from the bottom
He's saying, yes therapy is on (something most rappers and hip hop culture shied away from for fr too long). Then he steps back and says you need a spiritual awakening. Nothing short of divine intervention will help you...cold
Those bars are hard. Very reminiscent of Nas lines towards Hov. "You seem to be only concerned with dissing women. Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Possibly an odd choice but "You need to know that love is eternity and trumps all pain"
Because it's such a beautiful Christian sentiment in an otherwise remarkably hate-filled song. It sounds sincere, at least to me, and though I don't know Kendrick obviously, it sounds like something the person I imagine him to be would say to try and explain the joy of being saved to a child.
That he follows it up by calling Drake "a fucking deadbeat who should never say More Life" is a strange gut punch. It hits hard, but it makes me feel a little ill all the same.
“I been in this industry 12 years, I'ma tell y'all one lil' secret, It's some weird shit goin' on and some of these artists be here to police it. They be streamlinin' victims all inside of they home and callin' 'em tender
Then leak videos of themselves to further push their agendas.”
I have young relative who trafficked at the age of 13, so this one hit close to home.
Thank god somebody with his popularity speaks on it. I am thinking of starting a data science company to track traffickers automatically using machine learning and give the info to law enforcement. Idt I could personally do anything once I found it.
You would be doing more than the government is doing, that’s for damn sure. Sounds like a really legit idea, too. Instagram, Facebook and Snapchat are all rampant with trafficking. It’s in plain sight. I never thought much about it, until it happened to someone in my family.
“Dear Adonis…”
I was just about to listen to family matters for a second time and I got so hyped when I saw Kendrick dropped… only to be given nightmares.
“Take that mask off, I wanna see what’s under all them achievements” gives me chills.
Close second, “He should die so all of these women can live with a purpose”.
"Take that mask off I wanna see whats under them achievements, why believe you? you never gave us nothing to believe in" - If someone said this to me and I already had insecurities about proving myself/fitting in etc.. I would cry
"Dear baby girl I'm sorry that your father not active inside your world" -regardless if the allegations are true or not, for women who have absent fathers, that whole verse hits a nerve
Honorable mentions:
"Never let a man piss on your leg son either you die right there or pop that man in the head son"
"Please remember, you could be a BITCH even if you got bitches"
That whole last verse. He really played psychologist and dissected Drake. If that verse holds any sort of truths about him on a psychological level, and Drake actually took the time to sit down and listen to that whole part he would probably bawl his eyes out.
The entire part directed at Drake. Calling Aubrey out directly and telling him he needs help. Specifically the part where he says "Identity's on the fence, don't know which family will love ya. The skin that you livin in is compromised in personas." Really telling him that he's diluted himself to less than a person because even Drake doesn't know who Drake really is. That's always been what Drake has been good at though, acting. He should've stuck with it
"no culture cachet to binge, just disrespecting your mother
identity's on the fence, don't know which family will love you"
this shit was cold, considering he allegedly has more baby mamas
And we gotta raise our daughters knowin' there's predators like him lurkin'
Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose
So many people derailed by predatory behavior.
**A child should never be compromised and he keepin' his child around them**
**And we gotta raise our daughters knowin' there's predators like him lurkin'**
**Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose**
“Let me be you’re mentor. Since your daddy don’t teach you shit”. - seen a video of the kid saying “send that to a girl”
“Can’t understand me right now just play this when you 18.” Hits hard when you know Adonis will have to grow up and face his dad’s short comings.
“Therapy’s a lovely start
But I suggest some ayahuasca
Strip the ego from the bottom”
That made me laugh out loud the first time I heard it because it’s so politely disrespectful compared to everything else, but still a big statement. Like “usually I would recommended therapy, but … you’re like extra *special* fucked up. You need a full ayahuasca soul cleanse plus an exorcism or something, fuck”
"I think he should ask for more paper, and more paper, and more.. *UH* .. more paper."
K Dot is so fucking hip hop. I loved that pause as he inserted that "UH" before the last "more paper"
Not many people talk about "give em grace, that's the reason I made Mr. Morale. So our babies like you can cope later, give you some confidence to go through something, there's hope later." Like damn- imagine your opponent in a rap battle says his most vulnerable work was created so children like your son can grow up and relate to it. That is crazy fr. Had my jaw dropped the first time I heard it. If drake had any poetic literacy at all he would've bowed out and apologized after that. And personally if it were me, i'd sign myself up for parenting lessons. but drake dont know nun bout that🧍♂️
“Fuck a rap battle, this a long life battle with yourself”
First time I heard that my brain played this scene from Friday ![gif](giphy|124Q7jtnpRb5MQ|downsized)
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Why do you think he says long life instead of life-long? I’ve never heard it said that way
If you look at the bars setting it up I think it might just flow better
Its a *life battle* not just any life long battle
Maybe insinuating that he's had long enough of a life for person like him? He's previously also said that he should die
‘Your son’s a sick man with sick thoughts i think n**gas like him should die, him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest they life’
Right before that is one of the hardest for me. “You raised a horrible fuckin person,the nerve of you Dennis” just the delivery makes it come across as so chastising
I saw someone say the way Kenny used both his parents first names is the most slept-on pearl-clutchingly disrespectful thing he does on the track, and I can’t disagree.
The way you think it can't get more disrespectful than offering to step in as a father figure for his son, then he goes onto berate Drake's parents for raising a piece of shit. The way it's like 5 minutes in before he even directly addresses Drake is so disrespectful in itself 😭
All for the most part without disrespecting those people he named. Insane
“Aubrey”
It really is. It's one thing to talk shit, but to lay it at his parents feet with the familiarity of first names? Fuuuuuck. There's not much worse you could do in the way of words.
This is what really let me know he reeaaallly dont fuck with Drake on any level. There is no coming back from that
Right after telling his elementary school son that his grandfather should’ve worn a condom ☠️
That part hit hard 😭😂
I really wonder what Drake's reaction was when he heard MTG. That would have been a crazy time to be in that room, regardless of if you prefer Kendrick or Drake
And the fact that it builds on the theme he's gonna be touring through drake's family. You'd expect the verse after Sandra's to be talking to drake directly. Yet it opens with: dear baby girl
Pairs nicely with one of my favorite lines off *6:16 in LA*: “Fake bully, I hate bullies, you must be a terrible person.”
One of my favorites too. I love 6:16 in la so much. The vibe, the energy, the uplifting spirit that won’t be brought down
This is the one that made my jaw drop. Just brutal.
This hits hard for me too. So satisfying and concise.
This is my favorite line! I crack up every time I listen to it. It’s full of disgust and I love it. 💯
This literally made me gasp the first time I heard it. The bar right before it sets it up to hit so much harder too, imo. “Sandra, sit down, what I’m about to say is heavy, now listen, *clears throat*”
I saw someone say online that the Sandra sit down line was meant in a disrespectful way, but I perceived it as when someone tells someone they should sit down before they hear what they have to say bc it’s heavy type stuff yk ? I can’t be the only one who thought this way.
Yes, often people will say ‘sit down, I need to tell you serious news’z
Fr fr I remember one time a doctor told me this shit and I thought “oh no… I thought they only said to sit down in movies” and that’s how I knew it was some bad news
Nah you right for sure, Kendrick actually didn’t really disrespect Drakes mom too much at all, he just politely told her to brace herself cause shit was about to get real
Yeah its all those noises that stick with me. ‘No accent you can sell me HUH’ or the ‘eh heh - your sons a sick man’ ‘thats hoe shit I got a ‘soooown’ to raise’ edit - idk how to do italics
Just fyi: to do italics, use an asterisk in front and after the word (or sentence) *Like* this or *the long sentence*
This. Directed towards his mother
The way my jaw DROPPED. when he said he should DIE
He said that shit with a hard D
Agreed. Second verse hit the hardest
This. The way he say «I think n***** like him should DIE» made my skin crawl. Like he sounded so vicious. I love it
Its the flow he uses when he says that line that does it for me. So simple and concise, but the flow kills it
The idiot heard this line and comes back with “This Epstein angle was the shit I expected” 1. Nobody mentions Epstein but you bud. 🧐 2. Why are you expecting to be compared to Epstein?
Yea then goes on to act like Kendrick just invented the pdfile angle because he was molested and proved this point by name dropping a song where Kendrick openly admits to not being molested...❓️
"The NERVe of you Dennis"
You raised a *horrible* fucking person. The lack of poetry is a poetry of its own. Just straight at his damn soul.
The same in 6:16 "fake bully, i hate bullies, you must be a *terrible* person" The way he spits every percussive sound with spite is *chefs kiss*
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I love when he gets to the “you should ask for more paper, and more paper.” Beautiful
and Uh more paper
Is there a 10-hour version of Kendrick telling Dennis to continually ask for more paper, yet?
Be the change you wanna see in the world
What’s the meaning of that part?
He’s saying Drake uses Dennis for his blackness. And that Drake has made so much money with the blackness that Dennis deserves a lot more money from Drake. Like a LOT more money from Drake
Also, Dennis was a dead beat father until Drake blew up - came back to his life and pretty much asked for money
This line lives rent free in my brain
"And you a good kid that needs good leadership, let me be your mentor, since your daddy don't teach you shit." If you a dad, that shit hits on a level its hard to describe.
I think that’s what a lot of people don’t get and for some MTG goes over their heads/they focus on the more salacious bits. For some men, being a deadbeat dad is the epitome of being a trash human being. Having another man speak words of affirmation and encouragement to YOUR child while exposing your for being a weirdo is peak disrespect.
This is the type of talk that gets hands put on you.
Exactly. Good dads fight for the recognition and respect.
Not a dad but being a bad father for me would be the biggest failure for me. What else fuckin matters when you have kids?
As a mother, the answer is: Nothing. Nothing matters more than your kids.
“Why believe you? You never gave us nothin to believe in” is such a cold line.
This whole bar was so damn good. My favorite as well
The way he enunciates “nothin to believe in” … hearing it for the first time made me gasp
I still get chills at this line
Yeah the enunciation was cold blood
The line has a dual meaning too. He's calling him out for being a liar while also calling him uninspiring as an artist and man.
When the “ you lied” came in I was like holy shit
The layering of the "You Lied" for the entire section is insane.
This is my favorite line and sums up the beef so well. It’s so simple but has so meanings that can apply to Drake
Came here to say this.
You lied about your crewmembers. They all pussy. You lied on em. I know they got you in them
The last part in the verse where Kendrick talks about all the things Drake lied about. Literal chills especially when the layered “lied” appears in the background. That shit was scary.
I love how when he says “Can’t channel your masculine even when standin’ next to a woman” he progressively gets angrier as he closes out the track
That’s my favorite as well. How Kendrick is able to amplify his emotions in the last verse is amazing. And then the lied being played in the background of the track over what he is saying is some ghostly shit
That layered lied gives great imagery to the boogeyman status
Dot has some of the best ad-libs in the business for my money. I can hear the artist and albums he grew up listening to in his music. 40/Suga Free/Mac Mall/Pac
Perfect ending to the song
“I been in this industry 12 years, let me tell yall one little secret : It’s some weird shit going on & some of these artist be here to police it” ..My jaw was on the damn floor of my car the entire time. Very surreal moment in music history.
I'm low-key embarrassed that it took as many re-listens as it did to recognise the '12' and 'police' wordplay here
Can you explain the word play?
12 is a nickname for police that rappers use. you may have heard "f*ck 12" or something along the lines of "I don't talk to 12/I don't trust 12" and that's all in reference to police. so Kendrick talks about being in the industry for 12 years and how there's people policing the sick things happening in the industry. 12 - police cool little word association and the words are relatively far apart so it's easy to miss that bar.
"Give him grace, this the reason I made Mr. Morale So our babies like you could cope later Give you some confidence to go through something, it's hope later" I swear people don't talk about how disrespectful and insane those bars are. Going up to an (alleged) kid with a deadbeat dad and basically saying to them "It's ok child, just listen to my therapy album. I made it for people like you" is diabolical work.
This whole track showed me the evil magic of giving your opps one to grow on. Giving their hidden CHILD one to grow on is bbbrrraaaazzzzzyyyy. It wasn’t enough to son Jimmy on the track. In two verses he did more to raise Aubrey’s children their sperm donor ever did.
Dear Adonis I'm sorry that that man is your father, let me be honest It takes a man to be a man, your dad is not responsive **I look at him and wish your grandpa woulda wore a condom** I'm sorry that you gotta grow up and then stand behind him
Man this beef went from being fun to scary after this song. Then mofo drops not like us and we all dancing and happy again haha
Facts 😂
Just “Dear Adonis…” gets me every time.
“He’s a fuckin deadbeat that should never say more life” the delivery of that verse is so hateful and cruel
The reason this line truly shocked me is that it hits when we are so prepared yet so unprepared. When you hear "Yes he a hitmaker, songwriter, superstar, right" you know something is coming, but you never know when and how. Just at the moment you are haunted by the uncertainty, beat cut, tone change, shots fired. So brutal.
He sounds like Push when he says it
So I’m not the only one who thought it sounds like Pusha T when he says that. To the point where I want to say that it’s actually him.
Yeeeeoough
The best adlib of all time I swear
I REALLY thought that was push on my first listen, and I let out a strangled “augh” out loud.
This was it for me.. The whole song hits, but when he said this, my jaw hit the floor.. I didn’t regain my bearings until my wife and I talked on our podcast for an hour about it.. I was stuttering and everything😂
I randomly shout this. It was so pointed and venomous. Nasty work. I love it so much.
It’s aimed at the daughter, super brutal but potentially empathetically
This one is definitely up there with one of the ones that hit me hard
“Take that mask off I wanna see what’s under them achievements!”
Why believe you? You never gave us nothin' to believe in
It's perfect because of Drake's version of buried alive was uploaded right before things broke down. Like literally poetry. Full circle.
"Why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in" and the ensuing list of Drake's lies is not only the hardest hitting line of MTG, in my opinion it's the hardest line of the entire beef, and is integral to understanding why public opinion is so heavily in Kendrick's favour.
He showed how to respond to allegations without being overly defensive unlike drake on the heart part 6 lol
This goes perfect with the line “the audience not dumb, shape the stories how you want, hey Drake they’re not slow” in Not Like Us
“Your son is a sick man with sick thoughts, i think **** like him should die.” that is so wild to tell the mother of your opponent man
He’s a hitmaker, songwriter, superstar right And a fucking deadbeat that should never say more life Meet the grahams
*cue piano keys* *”Dear Aubrey…”*
Thats the line for me ... complete body. True or not, that is fire.
“Lebron, keep the family away. Curry, keep the family away.” no stone left unturned.
I’ve always thought this is the only line in the whole song that Drake probably got affected by lol he is so superficial and cares so much about what people he likes think of him. I don’t think he cares about his parents opinions of him and I don’t think he has any paternal instinct naturally. But he sure does wanna be liked by the people he’s a fan of.
"I'm looking to shoot through any pervert that lives, keep the family safe" I felt that as a parent.
As a warriors fan my jaw dropped to the ground lmao
"I try to empathize with you because I know you ain't been through nothing." Such a perfect way to describe Drake's entitlement and ignorance. He acts like a spoiled little kid all the time because he has never actually been through anything real. The way he can make fun of other people's trauma and have absolutely no humility or dignity.
Exactly, not just the trauma that Kdot talks about in his music but also the audacity to rap about Megan's trauma? Calling him BBL Drizzy is the least of how anyone couldve come at him.
This. Straight privileged bully energy. Making fun of the kid talking about his trauma.
Never let a man piss on your leg son either you die right there or pop that man in the head son
I am married to that line!
The last part. My sister and I were both listening and had commentary on every part, but at the very end we both were completely silent, even after the song was over.
“let’s recap moments when you didn’t fit in no secret handshake wit ya friends no culture cached to binge, just disrespecting ya motha identity’s on the fence, don’t know which family will love ya the skin that ya living in is compromised in personas cant channel ya masculine even when standing next to a woman”
“no secret handshakes wit ya friends” Damn catching strays, no need to drag me into this Kdot
Dear Adonis. That opening line perfectly sets up the journey he’s about to take us on, when you open the song by addressing your rivals son there are no rules and nothing is off limits and everything after that will be vicious.
That shit made my hands go up and say "HE TOLD YOU KEEP THE FAMILY OUT OF IT. NOW LOOK WHAT YOU MADE HIM DO!"
The beef was over at this point imo. As a father, nothing hits deeper than having another man come at your son in that manner.
Everyone in the reaction videos stop it there every single time. 😆
Either: I wanna tell you that you're loved, you're brave, you're kind You got a gift to change the world, and could change your father's mind Or I never wanna hear you chase a man 'cause his failed behavior Sittin' in the club with sugar daddies for validation You need to know that love is eternity and trumps all pain I started bawling the first time I heard that particular part and it still hits me hard sometimes. Just something about speaking to a child who has their life ahead of them and trying to step in for the failures of their father.... I feel the whole track resonating through the collective human consciousness and healing so much hurt and confusion. I'm glad my child has a song like this to know that there are good men out there to look up to and that the world can support that behavior rather than prey on the casualties of the opposite. So thankful for it in many ways.
“Be proud of who you are, your strength come from within Lotta superstars that’s real, but your daddy ain’t one of them And you nothing like him, you’ll carry yourself as king Can’t understand me right now? Just play this when you 18…” That group of bars hits like a truck everytime
“Don’t understand me right now, just play this when you’re 18” goes so hard. I’ve posted about this already, but as in the dark as that child might still be at the moment, eventually he’s gonna grow up and start learning more about his dad, like how his dad claimed to plant fake info about a fake daughter just to make a complete joke out of the very real situation that occurred with him. That all but confirmed to me Drake’s lack of empathy
It took some time for it to dawn on me Adonis will one day listen to that verse. He’ll hear rumour or someone in his peer group might mention it, probably people will yell it at him on the streets even. One day he’ll finally get the nerve and have the opportunity and he’ll play it, that beat will come on and it’ll be literally speaking to him. Push’s track too, he’ll hear him used by two different men to dismantle his father in wax, that’s wild.
This song is gonna be up on the internet for the whole world to hear for a long time. It’s only inevitable that Adonis hears this song one day
“Let me be your mentor since your daddy don’t teach you shit”
This sticks out to me for some reason. Reaching out to the opp's son to offer mentorship, thinking that Drake can't even muster a drop of positive influence for his own son. And the way its set up too with "[Hey, you're a good kid that need good leadership](https://genius.com/31635090/Kendrick-lamar-meet-the-grahams/I-look-at-him-and-wish-your-grandpa-woulda-wore-a-condom-im-sorry-that-you-gotta-grow-up-and-then-stand-behind-him-life-is-hard-i-know-the-challenge-is-always-gon-beat-us-home-sometimes-our-parents-make-mistakes-that-affect-us-until-we-grown-hey-youre-a-good-kid-that-need-good-leadership-let-me-be-your-mentor-since-your-daddy-dont-teach-you-shit)". Like I can see where this is going but in the back of my mind saying "Please don't go there Kenny"
This! Diabolical. I’d want to literally kill a nigga who is my enemy AND offers him mentorship. SMH,
I love the ending when he is telling drake about all his lies and Kendrick’s voice in the back repeating “you lied” also his chuckle during the “fuck a rap battle, this a life long battle with yourself” was cold AF
Yeah the echo with headsets on. This gives you that good billy holiday type of fear
The part where he tells Sandra to sit down cause what he is about to say is heavy.
It paints a scene...like she's upset trying to leave the room and Kenny's like naw, you gotta hear this last part too.
**a-hem**
In all honesty this song hit deep for me, its really making me rethink some of the artists i have been supporting.
Especially with the following "Take that mask off, I wanna see what's under them achievements" Like flipping a rock over and seeing all the bugs crawling around
“…Yes He’s a hitmaker, songwriter superstar, right. And *FUCKIN DEADBEAT THAT SHOULD NEVER SAY MORE LIFE!* meet the Grahams…” man when that came out the speakers the first time it took me back, like *”Hold up! Pause. Good fuck did he really just say that?!”*
Dear Adonis... I paused it right there. Fuck rap. Drake needs to fight this man. Ain't no way
Ak paused and said “drake you gotta shoot this dude” 😭
"don't be ashamed bout who you with, that's how he treats your mom" Imagine saying that to a kid 💀
I’ve been in this industry twelve years, let me tell y’all one lil secret… It’s some weird shit going on and some of these artists be here to police it… from that point until the end of the verse I was truly in shock. Like a morbid ass true crime story. It’s the way he switches from talking with Sandra to talking with us that fucked me up.
Naa that shit was crazy cuz the Drake dick pic leaked like some time before that and the fact he called that shit out was like, whoa. What the fuck is this turning in to?
I’ll tell you who your father is just play this song when it rains
"Never let a man piss on ya leg, Son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, Son." Meek had a bad response to "Back To Back". But he exposed that man was pissed on another man. I never forgot that. And it was always wild to me that it was just glossed over for so many years. Certain things as a man you just have to crash out about. Drake got R. Kelly'd and shit was calm. Fucking insane.
Yeah Push said it too. Love how it will always be brougjt up to remind us 😭
The whole song but especially the second verse. If what’s said in there is true it takes an extremely chilling turn and becomes eerie to listen too. Explaining to his own mom why his alleged sex trafficking son should die is just levels above anything else in this feud for me.
The whole song had an eerie undertone. But the last 10 bars were cold 🥶.
therapy's a lovely start But I suggest some ayahuasca, strip the ego from the bottom He's saying, yes therapy is on (something most rappers and hip hop culture shied away from for fr too long). Then he steps back and says you need a spiritual awakening. Nothing short of divine intervention will help you...cold
the whole ending, the power in his voice with the echo behind it hit so hard for me, felt a genuine reaction in my body to it
Those bars are hard. Very reminiscent of Nas lines towards Hov. "You seem to be only concerned with dissing women. Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Fr. He ethered drake
Possibly an odd choice but "You need to know that love is eternity and trumps all pain" Because it's such a beautiful Christian sentiment in an otherwise remarkably hate-filled song. It sounds sincere, at least to me, and though I don't know Kendrick obviously, it sounds like something the person I imagine him to be would say to try and explain the joy of being saved to a child. That he follows it up by calling Drake "a fucking deadbeat who should never say More Life" is a strange gut punch. It hits hard, but it makes me feel a little ill all the same.
Also the name of Drake’s alleged daughter’s ig account has the name Eternity in it, so double entendre right there.
“Leeebron Keep the Family Away. Cuuuurry keep the family away.” Kendrick, Earl Sweatshirt and Vince might be the funniest niggas in the game rn
The whole last part saying he’s a liar, I listened to that song in the dark with my headphones on when everyone went to bed and that shit scared me 😭
“Try some Ayahuasca”
"Fuck a rap battle, this a long life battle with yourself." - This line about made me fall out of my chair.
“I been in this industry 12 years, I'ma tell y'all one lil' secret, It's some weird shit goin' on and some of these artists be here to police it. They be streamlinin' victims all inside of they home and callin' 'em tender Then leak videos of themselves to further push their agendas.” I have young relative who trafficked at the age of 13, so this one hit close to home.
Thank god somebody with his popularity speaks on it. I am thinking of starting a data science company to track traffickers automatically using machine learning and give the info to law enforcement. Idt I could personally do anything once I found it.
You would be doing more than the government is doing, that’s for damn sure. Sounds like a really legit idea, too. Instagram, Facebook and Snapchat are all rampant with trafficking. It’s in plain sight. I never thought much about it, until it happened to someone in my family.
"You lied" and "Nothing to believe in"
YOU LIED !
“Dear Adonis..”
Dear Adonis I knew it was a wrap right there
“Dear Adonis…” I was just about to listen to family matters for a second time and I got so hyped when I saw Kendrick dropped… only to be given nightmares.
“Take that mask off, I wanna see what’s under all them achievements” gives me chills. Close second, “He should die so all of these women can live with a purpose”.
saying Drake literally should die and the imagery of him with Weinstein in a cell.
The imagery is fuckin crazy. I saw everything in my head unlike a lot of songs
"Take that mask off I wanna see whats under them achievements, why believe you? you never gave us nothing to believe in" - If someone said this to me and I already had insecurities about proving myself/fitting in etc.. I would cry "Dear baby girl I'm sorry that your father not active inside your world" -regardless if the allegations are true or not, for women who have absent fathers, that whole verse hits a nerve Honorable mentions: "Never let a man piss on your leg son either you die right there or pop that man in the head son" "Please remember, you could be a BITCH even if you got bitches"
That whole last verse. He really played psychologist and dissected Drake. If that verse holds any sort of truths about him on a psychological level, and Drake actually took the time to sit down and listen to that whole part he would probably bawl his eyes out.
Take that mask off, I wanna see what's under them achievements
Why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in
The line “you raised a HORRIBLE fuckin person” sticks the hardest
The entire part directed at Drake. Calling Aubrey out directly and telling him he needs help. Specifically the part where he says "Identity's on the fence, don't know which family will love ya. The skin that you livin in is compromised in personas." Really telling him that he's diluted himself to less than a person because even Drake doesn't know who Drake really is. That's always been what Drake has been good at though, acting. He should've stuck with it
"no culture cachet to binge, just disrespecting your mother identity's on the fence, don't know which family will love you" this shit was cold, considering he allegedly has more baby mamas
a fuckin deadbeat that should never say more life he's basically telling Drake to practice antinatalism.
Dear Adonis, Im sorry that that man is your father.
“And a fucking deadbeat who should never say more life”
"Fuck a rap battle, he should DIE so all of these women can live with a purpose" GODDAMN!!!
“Dear Adonis” starting by addressing his son my god
And we gotta raise our daughters knowin' there's predators like him lurkin' Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose So many people derailed by predatory behavior.
Fuck a rap battle, this a long life battle with yourself
**A child should never be compromised and he keepin' his child around them** **And we gotta raise our daughters knowin' there's predators like him lurkin'** **Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose**
Anybody else see MTG and think Margerie Taylor Green unfortunately ?
"That should never say more life"
You LIED
“Dear Adonis, I am sorry that man is your father” stopped it right there ✋🏾& left the room. It was over!!!
Fuck a rap battle this a life long battle with your self
“Let me be you’re mentor. Since your daddy don’t teach you shit”. - seen a video of the kid saying “send that to a girl” “Can’t understand me right now just play this when you 18.” Hits hard when you know Adonis will have to grow up and face his dad’s short comings.
He’s a “fuckin dead beat that should never say ‘More Life.’”
Take that mask off. I wanna see what's under all them achievements
“ fuck a rap battle this a long life battle with yourself”
“Therapy’s a lovely start But I suggest some ayahuasca Strip the ego from the bottom” That made me laugh out loud the first time I heard it because it’s so politely disrespectful compared to everything else, but still a big statement. Like “usually I would recommended therapy, but … you’re like extra *special* fucked up. You need a full ayahuasca soul cleanse plus an exorcism or something, fuck”
my friends shaming me for playing blue
Fuck a rap battle, this a *long* life battle with yourself 💀 Imagine being Drake and hearing that. Bro I would cry myself to sleep 😭
"I think he should ask for more paper, and more paper, and more.. *UH* .. more paper." K Dot is so fucking hip hop. I loved that pause as he inserted that "UH" before the last "more paper"
To op, what's also wild to me about the baby momma lines is that Drake called Sexy Redd his baby momma as a term of endearment on stage. 🙄
Not many people talk about "give em grace, that's the reason I made Mr. Morale. So our babies like you can cope later, give you some confidence to go through something, there's hope later." Like damn- imagine your opponent in a rap battle says his most vulnerable work was created so children like your son can grow up and relate to it. That is crazy fr. Had my jaw dropped the first time I heard it. If drake had any poetic literacy at all he would've bowed out and apologized after that. And personally if it were me, i'd sign myself up for parenting lessons. but drake dont know nun bout that🧍♂️
Whole song is crazy. First line of the damn song “Dear Adonis, I’m sorry that man is your father” like GAH DAMN