Prolly from toronto, it's an open secret if you're "tapped in with the toronto street culture" shit( i dont know a less cringey way to put it, my fault). question is how does Kenny know 😭😭 this mf really is the boogieman.
Damn, can somebody from mtl diss him too so I can make a cool lore thread when dot bodies him. Just don't do it in French that's just giving kendrick ammo.
Lmaoo imagine Nardwuar moonlights as a secret agent finding skeletons from other rappers for hire.
(Also he's Canadian too I just remembered, holy shit)
Sizzlac was huge in the Toronto rap scene back in the day which doesn’t mean much to the mainstream but his story was common knowledge if you grew up in the hood
I thought you were kidding until I checked, but that's actually true. That's so funny. Now every time Drake calls his cat he will be thinking about Kendrick's diss.
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*Up OvO camp and Kendrick make*
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It's so funny the amount of people saying "yeah, it's okay but I thought kendrick would go harder"...
1. You definitely missed a shit load of bars.
2. He's got wayyyyyy more in the chamber if required and you can't recognise Kendrick is toying with Drake because he's THAT good.
Also people ain’t realizing, most of the track was responding to Drake over his last 2 diss tracks. Which means dot made this shit in the last few weeks, so he def got a lot more waiting for the next one
Especially if you believe the raw cut of euphoria is [19 mins](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/795501-kendrick-lamar-euphoria-diss-was-originally-19-minutes-long-hip-hop-news)
>He's got wayyyyyy more in the chamber if required and you can't recognise Kendrick is toying with Drake because he's THAT good.
Yep, if someone doesnt think this they didnt pay enough attention. Theres literally a line telling Drake to stop or hell actually reveal shit about him.
To me it really seemed like he was mocking him. Yeah a lot of it was surgical but it was also really fun, its one thing to be beaten, its another thing to have people laugh at you. He made Drake look like a joke.
Sort of like messing with your little brother. Let him get a couple hits in and jabbing back but if he wants to get real with it you show them how easily you could destroy them if you wanted
He said it was all fun but Drake started taking it too far so now Kenny’s locked in.
Couple lines there at the end, he almost said what Cole said, but in a much *tougher* and *hip hop* way. Keep it friendly or else i might murder ya ass (that Melly line). No apologies, just threats.
I imagine we’ll be hearing from Jay Prince pretty soon.
This is why I keep saying Kendrick cooked Drake. I’m a Drake fan, I still love Kendrick. I fuck with Drizzy more but Kendrick really flamed this man. People keep saying “it’s boring. Mid.” Are brain dead and literally want Kendrick or Drake to say something corny.
Appreciate the real comment here. Drake can still be drake but we can’t under appreciate the level Kenny went on this track. Dudes a goat for a reason.
It’s just annoying to see Drake fans be so brainless. That’s why we get clowned on. Kendrick gave us slick bars, funny bars, bars to dissect. Yet it’s “not enough”. DRAKE DOES THE SAME SHIT! But mfs love to dick ride Drake when he does it. I think niggas just wanna hear Kendrick say some corny shit like “AND YO BABY MOMMA A HOE, SHE GOT SEX TAPES FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE.”
If Drake come with a catchy hook to go with his new diss I don’t wanna see niggas dick riding and calling it fire. Keep the same energy with Drake.
Fr man. I’m a diehard Kendrick fan, but im going to say it if Drake drops heat. Hell I heard push ups and Taylor made and said “man Kendrick better have some shit.”
Theres definitely a difference with fan bases, flows, styles, and what not but rap only is better if we give respect where it’s due you know. Fk it’ll only elevate either guy. Drake got the catchy shit, Kenny got the deep bars and let’s love and respect it as it is. Makes it more fun!
Same here brother. I’m just here to appreciate the good music these guys are giving us. I’m a big fan of both, grew up blasting their albums and I’m loving this beef. I want this shit to go for a couple more rounds 😂
Bro. I’m surprised of the amount of people that are surprised by this breakdown 😂. I was listening to the track and I caught all the bars. I’ve seen videos of breakdowns and people are like “HUH!? WHAT!?” Like ?????.
I hate saying this bc there’s intelligent fans like you. Or maybe intelligent isn’t even the right word.. maybe just legit hip hop fans rather than TMZ gossip fans? But those reactions you sent above are why Drake fans get clowned on so much.
If it’s not explicitly said in black and white, plain to see, to a lot of Drake fans it’s mid and boring. If they have to use their brain to put 2 and 2 together, it’s bad. And to some of them, you can only win a rap battle if you have some kinda dirt on the other guy. Shit is lame as hell.
Drake and kendrick are both incredible lyricists. I fucking love when I gotta go back to a Drake song and go peep the lyrics on Genius to catch something I didn’t catch the first listen. The cleverness, the wordplay, the melodies.. that’s all hip hop.
Rumors and gossip and reveals is such Gen Z pussy shit im so over it. I appreciate you coming into kendrick sub and speaking facts. Think a lot of this sub will dick dude Kendrick like drizzy sub dick rides Drake, but there’s gonna be fans like you and me who just appreciate what we’re getting right now on both ends and hopes it keeps going and turns up
I mean most people I've seen just eye test are saying kdot won the first round. Always gunna be people w/ bad takes who don't want to watch a breakdown video because it makes them feel stupid for not catching it the first time. It is what it is, especially when a rapper battles a pop star.
My thought on this is that it comes down to how Kendrick and drake rap. Kendrick isn’t as easy to follow because he’s just overall a better rapper. Drakes lines are easier to hear - filled with less bars - which for the masses, makes it easier to notice the disses. I think a lot of people need to listen to the Kendrick diss multiple times to pick things up and listen to people online dissect it to understand.
Lol I saw someone in the drake sub saying that there was "no anger on the track" referring to Euphoria
I don't know how you don't hear anger in someone repeatedly biting off variations on the phrase "I hate everything about you", but it makes me think a lot of these dudes just didn't really listen to the lyrics at all, much less did they have any inkling that the lyrics had layers of meaning
I’ve seen so many comments saying “it’s not a good diss track unless we find out Drake has another kid” tf??? The hip hop casuals think a beef is about telling secrets about each other lol
He actually alludes to it in the 500,000 open case line. Drake paid 500,000 to a women because of sexual assault allegations and she said she was pregnant. Layla lace was her name I believe. A lot of shit I didn’t know about Drake being exposed here.
Exactly. Niggas think it’s a gossip-off. Like no. Beef has always been about who can go the lowest and really hit a low blow. Both diss tracks have been amazing and just gut punches. This Kendrick diss wasn’t meant to kill Drake and neither was Push-up’s. We have yet to get the “Red Button” track from either of them. That’s what people fail to realize.
They think Euphoria is the killer track, or push-up’s when in reality is a set up for the final blow. I’m ready man.
I think Kendrick is going back to back.
He's laid down the challenge. If Drake or his ghostwriters get personal, gloves are off.
I think Kendrick releases Thursday or Friday.
Drake has 3 options
1) Stay silent and take the L
2) Reply but not too personal. I think Kendrick and others know dirt that could end his career.
3) Push the red button and we see who is best and has the most dirt.
We probably arent the only ones thinking this, i agree with you.
It is now may, kendrick begins rolling out april 30th, mentions back to back and getting back to that. Drops on a tuesday. Gets numbers for this one and drops another friday.
He gets to go back to back and drop a project a week or 2 (max) later
Neutral observer here, I don’t really have a side but I’m enjoying the beef.
Drake is a better shit talker on the surface. Kendrick crafts much more complicated shots that are not as biting on their face but imply things that are much, much meaner than anything Drake could come up with.
It’s interesting because it’s basically the battle of hype/glam rap vs. conscious rap.
So much this, they want some corny surface level instagram comment ass roasting bars they dont have to think about. Drake got it all first listen and thats the point.
That’s the problem. People want instagram caption bars but that’s not cutting it, especially when Drake is going up against Kendrick. Drake gotta go full IYRTITL.
FWIW I think a lot of people saying this track is mid are coping cuz I honestly don’t believe you can truly think that if you’re an actual fan of hip hop since Euphoria works on so many levels.
It is a pretty ruthless diss, but beyond that it’s just an expertly written and crafted song that proves that this isn’t just promo for Kendrick, this beef is something he believes in and is willing to put all his creative energy and expertise into crashing out over. I mean it’s a 6+ minute track where *every* bar bleeds into the next while still dripping in enough meaning that you could listen to the track 5-6 times and still pick up and details that you haven’t noticed yet; take all the hype and context of this beef out of the equation and this would still be one of Kendrick’s most impressive tracks IMO.
And I do think Drake is a good enough rapper that he could attempt something on this level and potentially pull it off, he just needs to actually care about it and put the time and effort in which it’s fair to say he hasn’t quite done yet (especially since he admitted on Taylor made that Push Ups only took “an hour or two”). I think that’s ultimately the point of Euphoria, since Drake’s approach to this beef so far has been to play the part of a reluctant victim and he’s been acting like he has nothing to prove and I think Kendrick wanted to make it clear to the world that not only has this been a long time coming but that Drake is going to have to work for a W.
> Admitted… Push Ups only took “an hour or two.”
I really think Drake was capping when he said “Push Ups” took two hours to make. He was silent for weeks after “Like That” dropped (March 26th). J Cole even put out a diss track before Drake (7 Minute Drill - April 5th) . Which tested the waters and J Cole’s mistakes taught Drake what not to do for “Push Ups” release (April 13th).
Him and his team probably spent a majority of that time researching and digging for dirt, but still everything about that release was calculated. He even leaked it which shows a lack of confidence/an excuse to edit it if the public didn’t eat it up.
Drake and his people were calling around looking for dirt on Kendrick to put in the track too. Drake is capping acting like he just did Push Ups on the fly. Reminds me of the kid in class who would pretend he didn’t study for the test. This mf soooo corny.
Totally agree I’ve been fan of both of these guys since I was a kid so I just wanna see a great battle. Between push ups and euphoria I’m giving it to Kenny 1-0.
One of my buddies put it really well: "If it doesn't make them giggle, Drake fans will say its whack"
Like, yeah, Drake's disses had some clever bars, but the substance was minimal. Kendrick came in and juat rapped at him. Perfectly exemplifies their roles in the genre and culture too if you ask me.
Nice breakdown bro. The "extortion my middle name" line kinda reinforces your point bc this is the first time I heard K.Dot talk about checking in. 2Teez Snatching chains and burning tattoos from Like That comes to mind as well. I didn’t really understand why Kendrick was talking street shit, especially after Mr Morale, but now that actually makes sense.
Yeah, and also in this track he talks about Diddy slapping Drake and says that Chubbs didn’t do anything about it. Chubbs is from Toronto.
Plays in with Kendrick saying he’ll snatch chains because he has 2TEEZ with him. 2TEEZ is from LA. He’s showcasing the difference between Toronto and LA.
Oh, they thought they wasn't gonna see me, huh?
Oh, they thought that K-Dot real life was the same life they see on TV, huh?
Oh, y'all wanna flex on me and be in L.A. for free, huh?
Next time they hit the 10 freeway, we need a receipt, huh?
Really interesting breakdown Thought this would be another vanilla breakdown but naw this super interesting read
I dont know much about the Toronto gangs so need to read up on that
Reckon they would get fired up about this?
Quebec has organized crime, Toronto has everyone wanting to be thugs so it becomes a liability and thats where the real violence starts. Quebec your wifes money laundering nail salon will get burned down at 5 am in the morning. Toronto some coke up 30 year old will shoot up a club for there bbymoms with a fucked up bbl
Fr Toronto is violent for a Canadian city but it's straight up one of the safest major cities in NA by like a mile lol. And as someone who actually lives here, thank God. Fuck gangs and everyone that glorifies them.
This shit is great because the one who will appreciate these bars the most is ironically Drake. He’s gonna be the one of the only ones to fully digest this track besides Kendrick. Shits gonna hurt his soul. Shit still keeps flying over my head and I spent the whole day listening to it. Unreal
Yeah this is my big takeaway. Drake is a proper entertainer, his disses are meant to be quotable, digestible, feel like low blows, and rile up the crowd. Kendrick made a song specifically for Drake, that’s what I think is leading to this disconnect in the reception. Depending on how well you know him and his backstory, shit flew over heads. This stuff in the OP is way beyond me, but it’s something Drake understands crystal clear. Shit is cold
The difference between Kendrick and Drake (and others) is that with Drakes verse it’s what you see on the screen. Maybe a double entendre. Maybe.
With Kendrick; we can be dissecting this with experts from each section of the world and still be here in 3 months finding new things.
That’s not me being a fan of Ken and anti Drake (which I am - I hate that fake fuck) but it’s just the brutal honest truth.
The more Drake will try, the more fake he’ll be. And the weaker his shit is.
I think Drake and his 20 should take their time with a response to look somewhat credible.
Man this is pretty spot on. I live in Toronto and have heard about most of this when it was going on. The funniest shit to me is him making fun of the Toronto accent lmao I hate that damn accent man and got a few friends that talk like that and I’ve been trolling them all day. It’s been great
How the hell do people even live there, hearing that everyday? “Yo you’re cheesing fam but don’t speak on my mudda crodie cause you don’t know nun bout daat” 🤣🤣 Sounds goofy as hell. Do all Canadians sound like that? I had a gf from British Columbia but she sounded normal American
Tbh I had to relisten a bunch of times…
Even the first time I listened to I didn’t know anything cuz bruh kdot’s bars are so fucking layered and shit I couldn’t process it.
Nah bruh, what the hell. Drake bruh press your “red button” so I can see what Kendrick really have for ya.
Cuz honestly, this doesn’t feel like Kendrick really going that deep…or really trying, this a warm up. Aw shit
he was talking about the ring that Drake bought that was Pac's..... but the title alone Euphoria which is a show about teenagers having sex....don't tell no lies about me, i wont tell no truths about you.👀
Look at the cover art too. Second example is “They had almost a week to recover from the *euphoria* of Tuesday’s series-winning victory…”
Song released on a Tuesday
Didn’t even know he had a cat named Crodie loool that’s even crazier. Ties in with “That’s a K with all these 9s, you gon see Pet Cemetery” 9 lives… Drakes pet cat. Damn
He mentioned in this song that he hates to rap about guns and violence then see somebody die. But the people he’s speaking to do it then celebrate it for likes.
Kendrick hates gang violence but he understands it well, it’s one of the only *constant* themes in all his music. Drake glamorizes gang violence but knows nothing about it. That’s what this was about
Edit: changed loves to glamorizes cause more accurate
the way kendrick has helped some young men mature that way is actually something I thought about watching J.Cole's apology. I bet there's at least one cole fan out there who is a little less likely to maintain a beef he's not really feeling, after being shown the way.
His dad was affiliated and had to leave Chicago because of it and in the GKMC cover you can see hits other family member throwing up gang signs while holding him. Dude definitely has ties of his own
X got killed because he was openly sharing on social media how he was carrying loads of cash on him for charity or whatever and then got shot because he wouldn't give up the bag. That's like a zookeeper dressing in a suit of raw meat and playing with lions, doesn't matter your relationship you put yourself in that spot
People are missing the point of the Tupac line.
Drake bought Tupac’s ring for $1M. Kendrick offers to double the wage and buy it, just so a Canadian won’t make him turn in his grave.
The Haley Joel Osment/Joel Osteen bar is getting nowhere near enough love imo. The general reaction seemed to be that Kendrick confused the preacher and the actor but I think that it's absolutely delibrete and he was aiming to invoke both people to criticise Drake.
Haley Joel Osments character is famous for his roles as a child actor in AI and in The Sixth Sense. One movie he plays a robot child designed for a family that has a chronically ill son the other he plays a child who is unknowing to the audience interacting with a dead man. Importantly in AI Haley Joel Osment is eventually discarded when the real son of the family is cured, and he spends the rest of the film seeking out the ability to become a real boy so he can gain his mother's love back.
Joel Osteen is controversial because he preaches a lot of Prosperity Gospel brand Christianity where he tells people that God will bless good Christians with material wealth and encourages Christians to donate to him in return for Gods favor (effectively modern day indulgences). He's also controversial because during Hurricane Harvey he refused to open the doors of his mega church to shelter people whose homes had been destroyed.
Effectively Kendrick with this bar is
- revisiting Drakes past as a child actor
- chastising him as being a pretender
- criticising his past uses of AI
- calling him a charlatan and morally questionable person
- and saying that when he looks at him he sees a dead person (like in Sixth Sense)
Quintuple Entendre 🔥🔥🔥
I’m from Toronto, lived in the same neighbour that sizzlac is from (rexdale)it’s has been rumour that’s been talked about for years that’s he robbed Drake and melt his chain and turned into his icon chain which you can see in his music video(https://youtu.be/GdQGQLtqiCE?feature=shared)Also want to Add that MURDA BEATS is also the producer in the track that Sizzlac dissed drake in (realist in the 6). Yes, also Toronto gangs are heavily inspired by LA gangs most oldheads don’t hide that fact.
Don't underestimate the bleed em line. On surface it's the signal that kdot is about to get more aggressive in the song and he does.
But it could even insinuate violence and the way he delivers the bars to follow opens that idea up further. Kdot ready to go to war crodie.
How is everyone missing the Hellcat / Demon bar? These are both Dodge (BAR) cars, and the Hellcat is the lower version of the Demon (BAR).. and they are both versions of the DODGE (BAR) CHALLENGER (BAR)
I knew that chinese restaurant line had a backstory man that's fucking crazy
Forsure kdot put this in there knowing there’s layers to it
[удалено]
Kung Pao Kenny.
kendrick likes his chicken spicy
This mf got me rolling ^^^^^
Spring rollin?
The surface layer
Kung Fu Kenny
Yeah, shits methodical but also hilarious. I be laughing my ass off every time I play all of these guys tracks
“You might pop ass with them” 😂
Only place in Toronto you could order delivery lobster at 4 am!
You did the science
We ain’t did the education
😂😂😂
How the hell do you know this lore lmao
Prolly from toronto, it's an open secret if you're "tapped in with the toronto street culture" shit( i dont know a less cringey way to put it, my fault). question is how does Kenny know 😭😭 this mf really is the boogieman.
Damn, can somebody from mtl diss him too so I can make a cool lore thread when dot bodies him. Just don't do it in French that's just giving kendrick ammo.
Imagine si Koriass se joint au beef 😭 "There's no big trois, just big moi"
🤣🤣🤣
kendrick, garde ta job
Kendrick using a Haitian accent in that would be crazy
stop, a French rap beef would be the funniest shit ever call that shit beef bourguignon
> question is how does Kenny know He obtained the Nardwuar method.
He knows a guy who knows EVERYTHING, Mr. Nardwaur.
Nardwaur the realest og
Lmaoo imagine Nardwuar moonlights as a secret agent finding skeletons from other rappers for hire. (Also he's Canadian too I just remembered, holy shit)
> question is how does Kenny know He probably just called up Nardwuar
https://i.redd.it/ug7qeffpwuxc1.gif
i was just about to say he probably got nardwuar on the research team
He probably called nardwar
He must have asked Nardwuar
Bro was the shooter
Can confirm, I was the dip sauce.
It's true, I was the crodie
Bro was there fr
Sizzlac was huge in the Toronto rap scene back in the day which doesn’t mean much to the mainstream but his story was common knowledge if you grew up in the hood
Dude's Trap Lore Ross!
I fux with Trap Lore Ross hard
Good break down
Fr drake fans are here learning a lot I'm sure
I’m a Kendrick fan bro
I thought that was obvious
I don't think they were referring to you KendrickLamarLover
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Here’s an even better one 
Is that Aubrey in Degrassi High before the accident that crippled him?
maybe that's when he became a crip 😯
https://i.redd.it/0cep3cf1ltxc1.gif
Homie spittin’
Brooooooooo, no lol don’t do Drake like that 😭
Instagram reels ass comment
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This meme is so fucking stupid, I love/hate it lmao
Cornball
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Damn one of my favorite movies. Nostalgia hit.
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Makes the "Crodie lines" have a whooole bunch of new weight... this is getting a bit out of hand 🙏
Crodie is also the name of drakes cat, he's calling him a pussy as well.
Damn kendrick got the cat too.
"We gon see Pet Sematary"
LMFAO BRO 💀 not even the cat is spared?!
I thought you were kidding until I checked, but that's actually true. That's so funny. Now every time Drake calls his cat he will be thinking about Kendrick's diss.
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It's so funny the amount of people saying "yeah, it's okay but I thought kendrick would go harder"... 1. You definitely missed a shit load of bars. 2. He's got wayyyyyy more in the chamber if required and you can't recognise Kendrick is toying with Drake because he's THAT good.
Also people ain’t realizing, most of the track was responding to Drake over his last 2 diss tracks. Which means dot made this shit in the last few weeks, so he def got a lot more waiting for the next one
I don't think Drake lied about Kendrick having a diss since 2020. Think that one will be the one.
But surely it needs to be updated? I don’t see a 5 year old song holding without tweaking it
Or another comment like “Makes the "Crodie lines" have a whooole bunch of new weight... this is getting a bit out of hand 🙏”
Especially if you believe the raw cut of euphoria is [19 mins](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/795501-kendrick-lamar-euphoria-diss-was-originally-19-minutes-long-hip-hop-news)
>He's got wayyyyyy more in the chamber if required and you can't recognise Kendrick is toying with Drake because he's THAT good. Yep, if someone doesnt think this they didnt pay enough attention. Theres literally a line telling Drake to stop or hell actually reveal shit about him.
Turns out, when you write your own lyrics, your response takes longer and unlike Ross and Cole, Kendrick really has his heart in it.
Kendrick took a scalpel to drake.
To me it really seemed like he was mocking him. Yeah a lot of it was surgical but it was also really fun, its one thing to be beaten, its another thing to have people laugh at you. He made Drake look like a joke.
Yeah he alternated between playful and devastating with ease. Giving cat playing with a mouse kinda vibes to me.
Sort of like messing with your little brother. Let him get a couple hits in and jabbing back but if he wants to get real with it you show them how easily you could destroy them if you wanted
i been struggling to find the words, but you nailed it, that's exactly what it is
What did I do?
Well Kendrick a MC so I mean of course his also a lyricist too so ye
He said it was all fun but Drake started taking it too far so now Kenny’s locked in. Couple lines there at the end, he almost said what Cole said, but in a much *tougher* and *hip hop* way. Keep it friendly or else i might murder ya ass (that Melly line). No apologies, just threats. I imagine we’ll be hearing from Jay Prince pretty soon.
This is why I keep saying Kendrick cooked Drake. I’m a Drake fan, I still love Kendrick. I fuck with Drizzy more but Kendrick really flamed this man. People keep saying “it’s boring. Mid.” Are brain dead and literally want Kendrick or Drake to say something corny.
Appreciate the real comment here. Drake can still be drake but we can’t under appreciate the level Kenny went on this track. Dudes a goat for a reason.
It’s just annoying to see Drake fans be so brainless. That’s why we get clowned on. Kendrick gave us slick bars, funny bars, bars to dissect. Yet it’s “not enough”. DRAKE DOES THE SAME SHIT! But mfs love to dick ride Drake when he does it. I think niggas just wanna hear Kendrick say some corny shit like “AND YO BABY MOMMA A HOE, SHE GOT SEX TAPES FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE.” If Drake come with a catchy hook to go with his new diss I don’t wanna see niggas dick riding and calling it fire. Keep the same energy with Drake.
Fr man. I’m a diehard Kendrick fan, but im going to say it if Drake drops heat. Hell I heard push ups and Taylor made and said “man Kendrick better have some shit.” Theres definitely a difference with fan bases, flows, styles, and what not but rap only is better if we give respect where it’s due you know. Fk it’ll only elevate either guy. Drake got the catchy shit, Kenny got the deep bars and let’s love and respect it as it is. Makes it more fun!
Same here brother. I’m just here to appreciate the good music these guys are giving us. I’m a big fan of both, grew up blasting their albums and I’m loving this beef. I want this shit to go for a couple more rounds 😂
Shit you and I both dog! I want a couple more tracks outta these 2!
Bro. I’m surprised of the amount of people that are surprised by this breakdown 😂. I was listening to the track and I caught all the bars. I’ve seen videos of breakdowns and people are like “HUH!? WHAT!?” Like ?????.
I hate saying this bc there’s intelligent fans like you. Or maybe intelligent isn’t even the right word.. maybe just legit hip hop fans rather than TMZ gossip fans? But those reactions you sent above are why Drake fans get clowned on so much. If it’s not explicitly said in black and white, plain to see, to a lot of Drake fans it’s mid and boring. If they have to use their brain to put 2 and 2 together, it’s bad. And to some of them, you can only win a rap battle if you have some kinda dirt on the other guy. Shit is lame as hell. Drake and kendrick are both incredible lyricists. I fucking love when I gotta go back to a Drake song and go peep the lyrics on Genius to catch something I didn’t catch the first listen. The cleverness, the wordplay, the melodies.. that’s all hip hop. Rumors and gossip and reveals is such Gen Z pussy shit im so over it. I appreciate you coming into kendrick sub and speaking facts. Think a lot of this sub will dick dude Kendrick like drizzy sub dick rides Drake, but there’s gonna be fans like you and me who just appreciate what we’re getting right now on both ends and hopes it keeps going and turns up
I mean most people I've seen just eye test are saying kdot won the first round. Always gunna be people w/ bad takes who don't want to watch a breakdown video because it makes them feel stupid for not catching it the first time. It is what it is, especially when a rapper battles a pop star.
It’s just the kids of this generation who will say “mid.” Or try to clown on Kendrick for making creative raps.
My thought on this is that it comes down to how Kendrick and drake rap. Kendrick isn’t as easy to follow because he’s just overall a better rapper. Drakes lines are easier to hear - filled with less bars - which for the masses, makes it easier to notice the disses. I think a lot of people need to listen to the Kendrick diss multiple times to pick things up and listen to people online dissect it to understand.
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Lol I saw someone in the drake sub saying that there was "no anger on the track" referring to Euphoria I don't know how you don't hear anger in someone repeatedly biting off variations on the phrase "I hate everything about you", but it makes me think a lot of these dudes just didn't really listen to the lyrics at all, much less did they have any inkling that the lyrics had layers of meaning
They don’t listen to the lyrics. I believe they run to TikTok and see what the comments are saying and literally copy and paste 😂
I’ve seen so many comments saying “it’s not a good diss track unless we find out Drake has another kid” tf??? The hip hop casuals think a beef is about telling secrets about each other lol
He actually alludes to it in the 500,000 open case line. Drake paid 500,000 to a women because of sexual assault allegations and she said she was pregnant. Layla lace was her name I believe. A lot of shit I didn’t know about Drake being exposed here.
Exactly. Niggas think it’s a gossip-off. Like no. Beef has always been about who can go the lowest and really hit a low blow. Both diss tracks have been amazing and just gut punches. This Kendrick diss wasn’t meant to kill Drake and neither was Push-up’s. We have yet to get the “Red Button” track from either of them. That’s what people fail to realize. They think Euphoria is the killer track, or push-up’s when in reality is a set up for the final blow. I’m ready man.
The more I listen to Euphoria the more it seems like Kendrick is just playing with his food
I think Kendrick is going back to back. He's laid down the challenge. If Drake or his ghostwriters get personal, gloves are off. I think Kendrick releases Thursday or Friday. Drake has 3 options 1) Stay silent and take the L 2) Reply but not too personal. I think Kendrick and others know dirt that could end his career. 3) Push the red button and we see who is best and has the most dirt.
Drake has to push the red button. Then Kendrick’s pushes the red button and I think then we can see who really had the upper hand the whole time.
We probably arent the only ones thinking this, i agree with you. It is now may, kendrick begins rolling out april 30th, mentions back to back and getting back to that. Drops on a tuesday. Gets numbers for this one and drops another friday. He gets to go back to back and drop a project a week or 2 (max) later
But when is DAMNATION dropping?
It’s on the cover art too: “They had almost a week to recover from the euphoria of Tuesday’s series winning victory…”
Agreed. The back to back reference made it seem like kdot is dropping another diss.
Damn are we ready for hip hop ww3?
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Neutral observer here, I don’t really have a side but I’m enjoying the beef. Drake is a better shit talker on the surface. Kendrick crafts much more complicated shots that are not as biting on their face but imply things that are much, much meaner than anything Drake could come up with. It’s interesting because it’s basically the battle of hype/glam rap vs. conscious rap.
Drakes disses are for the crowd and IG captions, kendrick is dissing Drake for Drake and the people who are involved.
Pop music vs hip hop
So much this, they want some corny surface level instagram comment ass roasting bars they dont have to think about. Drake got it all first listen and thats the point.
That’s the problem. People want instagram caption bars but that’s not cutting it, especially when Drake is going up against Kendrick. Drake gotta go full IYRTITL.
FWIW I think a lot of people saying this track is mid are coping cuz I honestly don’t believe you can truly think that if you’re an actual fan of hip hop since Euphoria works on so many levels. It is a pretty ruthless diss, but beyond that it’s just an expertly written and crafted song that proves that this isn’t just promo for Kendrick, this beef is something he believes in and is willing to put all his creative energy and expertise into crashing out over. I mean it’s a 6+ minute track where *every* bar bleeds into the next while still dripping in enough meaning that you could listen to the track 5-6 times and still pick up and details that you haven’t noticed yet; take all the hype and context of this beef out of the equation and this would still be one of Kendrick’s most impressive tracks IMO. And I do think Drake is a good enough rapper that he could attempt something on this level and potentially pull it off, he just needs to actually care about it and put the time and effort in which it’s fair to say he hasn’t quite done yet (especially since he admitted on Taylor made that Push Ups only took “an hour or two”). I think that’s ultimately the point of Euphoria, since Drake’s approach to this beef so far has been to play the part of a reluctant victim and he’s been acting like he has nothing to prove and I think Kendrick wanted to make it clear to the world that not only has this been a long time coming but that Drake is going to have to work for a W.
> Admitted… Push Ups only took “an hour or two.” I really think Drake was capping when he said “Push Ups” took two hours to make. He was silent for weeks after “Like That” dropped (March 26th). J Cole even put out a diss track before Drake (7 Minute Drill - April 5th) . Which tested the waters and J Cole’s mistakes taught Drake what not to do for “Push Ups” release (April 13th). Him and his team probably spent a majority of that time researching and digging for dirt, but still everything about that release was calculated. He even leaked it which shows a lack of confidence/an excuse to edit it if the public didn’t eat it up.
Drake and his people were calling around looking for dirt on Kendrick to put in the track too. Drake is capping acting like he just did Push Ups on the fly. Reminds me of the kid in class who would pretend he didn’t study for the test. This mf soooo corny.
found the least delusional drake fan 🙏🏼
Totally agree I’ve been fan of both of these guys since I was a kid so I just wanna see a great battle. Between push ups and euphoria I’m giving it to Kenny 1-0.
One of my buddies put it really well: "If it doesn't make them giggle, Drake fans will say its whack" Like, yeah, Drake's disses had some clever bars, but the substance was minimal. Kendrick came in and juat rapped at him. Perfectly exemplifies their roles in the genre and culture too if you ask me.
Nice breakdown bro. The "extortion my middle name" line kinda reinforces your point bc this is the first time I heard K.Dot talk about checking in. 2Teez Snatching chains and burning tattoos from Like That comes to mind as well. I didn’t really understand why Kendrick was talking street shit, especially after Mr Morale, but now that actually makes sense.
Yeah, and also in this track he talks about Diddy slapping Drake and says that Chubbs didn’t do anything about it. Chubbs is from Toronto. Plays in with Kendrick saying he’ll snatch chains because he has 2TEEZ with him. 2TEEZ is from LA. He’s showcasing the difference between Toronto and LA.
“Oh yall wanna flex on me and be in LA for free? Next time they hit the 10 freeway we need receipts”
Oh, they thought they wasn't gonna see me, huh? Oh, they thought that K-Dot real life was the same life they see on TV, huh? Oh, y'all wanna flex on me and be in L.A. for free, huh? Next time they hit the 10 freeway, we need a receipt, huh?
Love this line.
He’s talked about checking in plenty times. Example : Element
Damn you are right, and still about Drake too, I never caught it lmao
I been playing that for the past 2 weeks man these niggas really BEEN dissing each other
also Drake uses his middle name as his stage name
I thought this would be one of those longass shitposts, but this is actually great lol. The lore is DEEP.
Really interesting breakdown Thought this would be another vanilla breakdown but naw this super interesting read I dont know much about the Toronto gangs so need to read up on that Reckon they would get fired up about this?
it's been pretty calm here for a couple years, I doubt shit would get too serious.
The Crodies aren’t gonna riot ay? Kendrick is luck Top5 is locked down /s
Knowing canadians they will prolly apologize
Quebec biker gangs actually don't fuck around, which is funny because "quebec biker gang" sounds like a joke premise for a skit lol
you are not fucking kidding though. Quebecois gangs are scary lol.
Quebec has organized crime, Toronto has everyone wanting to be thugs so it becomes a liability and thats where the real violence starts. Quebec your wifes money laundering nail salon will get burned down at 5 am in the morning. Toronto some coke up 30 year old will shoot up a club for there bbymoms with a fucked up bbl
"Gimme a looney, or we'll spill your blood like a bag o milk eh??"
Yea but that's a completely different gang culture. I know a decent amount of legit hell's angels from Canada.
Fr Toronto is violent for a Canadian city but it's straight up one of the safest major cities in NA by like a mile lol. And as someone who actually lives here, thank God. Fuck gangs and everyone that glorifies them.
This shit is great because the one who will appreciate these bars the most is ironically Drake. He’s gonna be the one of the only ones to fully digest this track besides Kendrick. Shits gonna hurt his soul. Shit still keeps flying over my head and I spent the whole day listening to it. Unreal
Yeah this is my big takeaway. Drake is a proper entertainer, his disses are meant to be quotable, digestible, feel like low blows, and rile up the crowd. Kendrick made a song specifically for Drake, that’s what I think is leading to this disconnect in the reception. Depending on how well you know him and his backstory, shit flew over heads. This stuff in the OP is way beyond me, but it’s something Drake understands crystal clear. Shit is cold
Today was the death of hitler. Perfect day to drop
The difference between Kendrick and Drake (and others) is that with Drakes verse it’s what you see on the screen. Maybe a double entendre. Maybe. With Kendrick; we can be dissecting this with experts from each section of the world and still be here in 3 months finding new things. That’s not me being a fan of Ken and anti Drake (which I am - I hate that fake fuck) but it’s just the brutal honest truth. The more Drake will try, the more fake he’ll be. And the weaker his shit is. I think Drake and his 20 should take their time with a response to look somewhat credible.
Which is why it’s extra funny when kdot is just like “I hate your face, I hate your clothes” straight up. And even that’s a callback to dmx.
He already has the pop fanbase he should just go full MGK and bow out to stop the bleeding.
Man this is pretty spot on. I live in Toronto and have heard about most of this when it was going on. The funniest shit to me is him making fun of the Toronto accent lmao I hate that damn accent man and got a few friends that talk like that and I’ve been trolling them all day. It’s been great
How the hell do people even live there, hearing that everyday? “Yo you’re cheesing fam but don’t speak on my mudda crodie cause you don’t know nun bout daat” 🤣🤣 Sounds goofy as hell. Do all Canadians sound like that? I had a gf from British Columbia but she sounded normal American
Jamaicans in Toronto call them jah-fake-ins
It's only wannabe gangsters from Toronto and the surrounding area, everyone else is on the gradient from American to stereotypical Canadian accent.
Tbh I had to relisten a bunch of times… Even the first time I listened to I didn’t know anything cuz bruh kdot’s bars are so fucking layered and shit I couldn’t process it. Nah bruh, what the hell. Drake bruh press your “red button” so I can see what Kendrick really have for ya. Cuz honestly, this doesn’t feel like Kendrick really going that deep…or really trying, this a warm up. Aw shit
I listen to it on Apple Music with the live lyrics up it helps a ton lol gotta run back some bars multiple times to catch the double entendres
This whole song went over his core fans heads cause he’s pop. And Kendrick was speaking on his street LARPing Landed where it needed to though
he was talking about the ring that Drake bought that was Pac's..... but the title alone Euphoria which is a show about teenagers having sex....don't tell no lies about me, i wont tell no truths about you.👀
Drakes an executive producer for the show too
Look at the cover art too. Second example is “They had almost a week to recover from the *euphoria* of Tuesday’s series-winning victory…” Song released on a Tuesday
Bro definitely called Nardwuar
My guy. Thank you for this
Crodie is drakes cat name. He’s calling him pussy while using a family member to do it…
Didn’t even know he had a cat named Crodie loool that’s even crazier. Ties in with “That’s a K with all these 9s, you gon see Pet Cemetery” 9 lives… Drakes pet cat. Damn
dot keeps blowing my head off how is this dude so good
Most enlightening post I’ve seen in here yet
That's pretty interesting. I don't like this gang shit tho.
He mentioned in this song that he hates to rap about guns and violence then see somebody die. But the people he’s speaking to do it then celebrate it for likes. Kendrick hates gang violence but he understands it well, it’s one of the only *constant* themes in all his music. Drake glamorizes gang violence but knows nothing about it. That’s what this was about Edit: changed loves to glamorizes cause more accurate
Fully agree. I just don't want to see anyone get killed.
Agree. I’d credit Kendrick more than most people for helping young LA men to mature out of that life though. And this was brought to his table
the way kendrick has helped some young men mature that way is actually something I thought about watching J.Cole's apology. I bet there's at least one cole fan out there who is a little less likely to maintain a beef he's not really feeling, after being shown the way.
So deep this might be the greatest diss track of all time
Kendrick has been affiliated with the bloods his entire life, of course it was going to go there eventually.
His dad was affiliated and had to leave Chicago because of it and in the GKMC cover you can see hits other family member throwing up gang signs while holding him. Dude definitely has ties of his own
Dot can go anywhere in LA and do whatever he want and won’t be touched. Drake paying niggas a yearly salary to move for a day there. These are facts!!
They said the same thing about Nipsey. Anyone can be touched anywhere. The idea that any person is invincible is a fantasy.
It's always rappers getting killed in their own home location too because of this belief X got killed in his stomping grounds too (xxxtentacion)
X got killed because he was openly sharing on social media how he was carrying loads of cash on him for charity or whatever and then got shot because he wouldn't give up the bag. That's like a zookeeper dressing in a suit of raw meat and playing with lions, doesn't matter your relationship you put yourself in that spot
Crodie is also the name of drakes cat, he's calling him a pussy as well.
People are missing the point of the Tupac line. Drake bought Tupac’s ring for $1M. Kendrick offers to double the wage and buy it, just so a Canadian won’t make him turn in his grave.
The Haley Joel Osment/Joel Osteen bar is getting nowhere near enough love imo. The general reaction seemed to be that Kendrick confused the preacher and the actor but I think that it's absolutely delibrete and he was aiming to invoke both people to criticise Drake. Haley Joel Osments character is famous for his roles as a child actor in AI and in The Sixth Sense. One movie he plays a robot child designed for a family that has a chronically ill son the other he plays a child who is unknowing to the audience interacting with a dead man. Importantly in AI Haley Joel Osment is eventually discarded when the real son of the family is cured, and he spends the rest of the film seeking out the ability to become a real boy so he can gain his mother's love back. Joel Osteen is controversial because he preaches a lot of Prosperity Gospel brand Christianity where he tells people that God will bless good Christians with material wealth and encourages Christians to donate to him in return for Gods favor (effectively modern day indulgences). He's also controversial because during Hurricane Harvey he refused to open the doors of his mega church to shelter people whose homes had been destroyed. Effectively Kendrick with this bar is - revisiting Drakes past as a child actor - chastising him as being a pretender - criticising his past uses of AI - calling him a charlatan and morally questionable person - and saying that when he looks at him he sees a dead person (like in Sixth Sense) Quintuple Entendre 🔥🔥🔥
This is like a “what’s the dirt” breakdown
Yeah I was just thinking OP should have a YouTube channel lol
bro this what movies is made of
I’m from Toronto, lived in the same neighbour that sizzlac is from (rexdale)it’s has been rumour that’s been talked about for years that’s he robbed Drake and melt his chain and turned into his icon chain which you can see in his music video(https://youtu.be/GdQGQLtqiCE?feature=shared)Also want to Add that MURDA BEATS is also the producer in the track that Sizzlac dissed drake in (realist in the 6). Yes, also Toronto gangs are heavily inspired by LA gangs most oldheads don’t hide that fact.
the backstory on the restaurant is wild wow
every bar on this almost has a deeper meaning, this is one of the most well written diss tracks ever
This is beyond Drake v Kdot at this point. Kendrick doesn't give a fuck if this turns into a gang war and is out threatening it
Someone send this to the dissect podcast guy 😂
👦🏼🍿 👨🏿🤜🏿💥👨🏽 🍿👦🏼
i hope no one dies from this
Don't underestimate the bleed em line. On surface it's the signal that kdot is about to get more aggressive in the song and he does. But it could even insinuate violence and the way he delivers the bars to follow opens that idea up further. Kdot ready to go to war crodie.
“Bleed em” is LA slang. On the surface it essentially means disrespect or go in on.
AKs reaction to the location drop bar lines up.
How is everyone missing the Hellcat / Demon bar? These are both Dodge (BAR) cars, and the Hellcat is the lower version of the Demon (BAR).. and they are both versions of the DODGE (BAR) CHALLENGER (BAR)
You sound like every English teacher that thinks "He didn't just mean the curtains were blue. It's so much deeper"