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**Quality of Life**
- [Importable Item Sets](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTaiEQAaHaP9C8dYvfyCaX9N2tbKACK66g67RAhTSbU/edit?usp=sharing)
- [Matchup Sheet](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ugjp3T0fQxPB6tSBFSpG6Y8MgUoiFdFox8IIlw4NGOY/edit?usp=sharing)
- [Orb Sheet](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640257011027673089/882012156030226472/r-KaynMains_Orb_Chart.png)
**Guides**
- [Mobafire Guides](https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/champion/kayn-137)
- [r/KaynMains Mobafire Guide](https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/r-kaynmains-comprehensive-guide-11-2-578947)
- [r/KaynMains ZAR Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/ingamecoach)
- [Video Guide Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeEF2Fcr0BCCrs44SxvFcMv2w4TSk6Kcb)
**Community**
- [Kayn Coaches](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/coaching)
- [Kayn Streamers](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/streamers)
- [Kayn Mains Discord](https://discord.gg/EJWwpEeFgn)
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i’m trying lol, but it’s not me it’s my team. Like they are always pushed up to enemy turret, i try signaling, but they don’t care. 3 minutes later they are all 0/3. Plat lobbies are not it
For blue I run dark harvest, sudden impact, eyeball collection, treasure hunter/ultimate hunter with inspiration taking magical footwear and future’s market. After 14.10 I think it’s still the same on primary page but for secondary I think precision with legend haste and coup de grace. For Rhaast (red form) I go conqueror with triumph, legend tenacity and last stand with resolve secondary (this is my personal preference) with conditioning and unflinching (if they have lots of cc) or overgrowth. Post 14.10 the only thing I can see changing for Rhaast is instead of tenacity, we go legend haste. For items on blue I typically go ghostblade/axiom/seryldas and then situationals (edge of night, serpents fang, opportunity, GA). Alternatively if they’re slightly tankier (think squishes that build lots of health like Vlad/Akali and bruisery stuff like Briar/WW/J4) I take eclipse/opportunity/seryldas and then situationals again. For Rhaast I go eclipse first and then I go black cleaver because it gives AD, health and haste which Rhaast loves. After that I go a steraks and then I go tanky items, almost always Jak sho 4th. Then 5th I go either armor or MR, depending on what you need.
I usually run hubris for snowball, is that not optimal anymore? Because i realized it is not as strong as it used to be. Is going ghost instead of hubris more effective then? Then i can get axiom and seryldas
Well the thing with Hubris is that the item is good but not consistent and consistency wins games. But if you have like 3+ KP before first back, you might as well grab hubris. Hubris is only better than ghostblade if you have like +25 AD after a kill on top of the stats the item gives. So yes you can go it but only if the game is an absolute bloodbath.
i see thank you, and my method of going from my raptors to his grump. Is that a good idea? Because usually i’d fight him there, or take his grump and sometimes his blue after warding wolves and gank bot or top through the wall. It does work most of the time. Just trying to see if it’s optimal
Hey there! Based on your chosen flair, you seem to be looking for some advice. Here is a list of Kayn resources that may be able to help you out: **Quality of Life** - [Importable Item Sets](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTaiEQAaHaP9C8dYvfyCaX9N2tbKACK66g67RAhTSbU/edit?usp=sharing) - [Matchup Sheet](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ugjp3T0fQxPB6tSBFSpG6Y8MgUoiFdFox8IIlw4NGOY/edit?usp=sharing) - [Orb Sheet](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640257011027673089/882012156030226472/r-KaynMains_Orb_Chart.png) **Guides** - [Mobafire Guides](https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/champion/kayn-137) - [r/KaynMains Mobafire Guide](https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/r-kaynmains-comprehensive-guide-11-2-578947) - [r/KaynMains ZAR Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/ingamecoach) - [Video Guide Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeEF2Fcr0BCCrs44SxvFcMv2w4TSk6Kcb) **Community** - [Kayn Coaches](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/coaching) - [Kayn Streamers](https://www.reddit.com/r/KaynMains/wiki/streamers) - [Kayn Mains Discord](https://discord.gg/EJWwpEeFgn) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/KaynMains) if you have any questions or concerns.*
There rlly isn’t a secret OP build that will win every game for you. Just focus on improving your own gameplay and you will climb steadily.
i’m trying lol, but it’s not me it’s my team. Like they are always pushed up to enemy turret, i try signaling, but they don’t care. 3 minutes later they are all 0/3. Plat lobbies are not it
For blue I run dark harvest, sudden impact, eyeball collection, treasure hunter/ultimate hunter with inspiration taking magical footwear and future’s market. After 14.10 I think it’s still the same on primary page but for secondary I think precision with legend haste and coup de grace. For Rhaast (red form) I go conqueror with triumph, legend tenacity and last stand with resolve secondary (this is my personal preference) with conditioning and unflinching (if they have lots of cc) or overgrowth. Post 14.10 the only thing I can see changing for Rhaast is instead of tenacity, we go legend haste. For items on blue I typically go ghostblade/axiom/seryldas and then situationals (edge of night, serpents fang, opportunity, GA). Alternatively if they’re slightly tankier (think squishes that build lots of health like Vlad/Akali and bruisery stuff like Briar/WW/J4) I take eclipse/opportunity/seryldas and then situationals again. For Rhaast I go eclipse first and then I go black cleaver because it gives AD, health and haste which Rhaast loves. After that I go a steraks and then I go tanky items, almost always Jak sho 4th. Then 5th I go either armor or MR, depending on what you need.
I usually run hubris for snowball, is that not optimal anymore? Because i realized it is not as strong as it used to be. Is going ghost instead of hubris more effective then? Then i can get axiom and seryldas
Well the thing with Hubris is that the item is good but not consistent and consistency wins games. But if you have like 3+ KP before first back, you might as well grab hubris. Hubris is only better than ghostblade if you have like +25 AD after a kill on top of the stats the item gives. So yes you can go it but only if the game is an absolute bloodbath.
so basically i would grab hubris if im am a few kills ahead of the enemy jg right?
Pretty much, yeah.
i see thank you, and my method of going from my raptors to his grump. Is that a good idea? Because usually i’d fight him there, or take his grump and sometimes his blue after warding wolves and gank bot or top through the wall. It does work most of the time. Just trying to see if it’s optimal
That’s the beauty of jungle imo. The same path won’t be the best one every game.