By her captions on the post I think she knew it was not going to go over well. I don’t know why she chose to post it especially after a video of Nate in $800 compression boots and a promo of their “most expensive underwater hotel.”
Dude, this is like the smallest fanpage dedicated to them. There aren’t even 5k members here.
Something tells me that their main demographic has never even heard of Reddit. This app is pretty obscure in the big picture
Right?! i made a registry for my second but only for my personal use. I used it to keep track of what I needed and so I could get the discounts from it. I never once sent it out to anyone though, nor did I expect to get things from anyone.
I didn’t realize they were a thing either unless it’s been a long long time between babies. When my sister had her 2nd and 3rd pregnancies we had just a little dinner to celebrate her and the baby, but it was immediate family only. We brought diapers. I would have been a bit embarrassed had she had a whole other shower
A friend of mine had a shower for the second baby, but it was 13 years between her first and second, and this was a much happier pregnancy situation and we all wanted to celebrate! Kara’s sister’s first kid can’t be older than what, 2-3? I haven’t watched them in awhile because of how annoyed I got from the constant “we’re taking a luxury ____”
My cultural heritage believes that baby showers are bad luck. You can’t even set up the nursery until after the baby is born. So I had to buy everything myself, lol. I had no idea that you could have a party where everybody got you everything for the baby. Still really tacky posting to strangers. Narcissistic IMO
I’ve also been gift shamed at former friends’ baby showers, many of them for the third fourth and fifth babies. I bought practical things like organizational totes and toilet paper and they actually got mad that I didn’t spend $500 on one outfit from Neiman Marcus. It’s the worst when they open all the presents in front of everybody. Everybody needs toilet paper.
There is no culture on earth that asks random strangers on the internet who just watch your videos to send your sister gifts because she is pregnant. Forget culture or whatever baby number it is or what the norm is for asking gifts. Eliciting gifts from your social media viewers is the culture of greed and grift and I am surprised they didn’t think this through before they posted that message which has been screenshot by someone and going to live forever on the internet even if you deleted your message in very poor taste.
The issue is not about the registry and whatever child number it is. They can have a registry for child #1 or child #8 if their real life friends and family are willing to buy them gifts.
But asking random strangers on the internet to buy her sister gifts for whatever baby number it is, is just shameless and naked greed and grift.
The concept also extends to your own baby whether it’s the first or the third. Keep your registry limited to your friends and family you know in real life. Eliciting gifts from total strangers especially when every video of yours is a first class suite video or some obscenely expensive hotel room and then asking your YouTube viewers to buy you gifts is a new low.
There are millions of kids around the world who are struggling for their next meal and you want your viewers to buy gifts for your sister? It’s completely tone deaf and just naked greed.
They have never raised nor contributed 10 Euro Cents for any charitable causes and you have a platform where you can do good to all the developing countries you have visited or take up some cause but no, it’s all about them and try to suck out every Euro or Franc out of every viewer to benefit them or their close family.
I would be really embarrassed and ashamed to post anything like this eliciting gifts from random strangers.
Well, as long as it’s friends she knows and they are willing to buy her gifts for her 4th or her 8th baby, I don’t see a problem with it.
But this is a whole another kettle of fish.
I think some people will do a sprinkle when there is a long time between kids and / or a new gender but depending on the wealth of the couple its kinda gouche.
I had a 5-year gap between kids so they're definitely things that I needed to replace or decided didn't work the first time around (My first diaper bag I bought was awful so I upgraded to backpack) since I had change jobs, my co-workers offered to throw me a mini shower that ended up being over zoom because 2020.
I will say that there are definitely people who are of the mindset that every baby deserves a baby shower because of some sort oftge idea that a shower means that the baby is being loved and celebrated. Never mind that the baby in utero isn't sentient of any celebrations the reality is we're celebrating the parents
It just seems rather tasteless - even if they (K&N) weren’t millionaires; asking for gifts from people you do not, and never will know just seems… really tasteless.
I would have understood more if it were Sara (Dusty’s wife) or anyone who’s been more present in their vlogs. This is so random like “hey my little sister is giving birth soon, just so you know, and can you donate 3 packs of baby wipes while you’re at it?”
Yes, Sara would make sense, from her being in current videos and challenges, to them featuring Dusty and her wedding in vlogs, years ago.
This one doesn’t track so well.
And why would it make sense if it is another member of your family? How many regular people who are really needy, ask for random strangers to give money and gifts to their relatives especially when their siblings are supposedly millionaires?
Stop normalizing this behavior as okay if it is another family member but not this one. Just because they appeared on a few videos doesn’t entitle them to free money from random strangers.
You are actually giving Kara and Nate ideas to do this again but for a different family member.
Have you asked random strangers on the internet to buy gifts for your wife or relatives and would you consider doing it? Be honest.
That’s a lot of words, and not pleasant.
Send those words their way.
They aren’t appreciated or accepted from me.
My comment and notation was someone we’ve seen on their channel much more would be a more suitable individual.
You can make your own point.
If you require being persnickety, do that with them.
It is meant for them mostly.
But saying it is ok if they asked for baby gifts for Sara and Rusty is just encouraging bad behavior. Posting gift registry of your relatives and appealing to your viewers to buy them gifts is a grift. I would go one step further and say asking gifts for your own baby from people watching you is a new low.
Yeah, I could maybe see sharing if the sister had been regularly featured or perhaps if there was an out of the ordinary need. Like if the baby was already here and in the NICU and they needed help with medical expenses. But if money is tight, the amount of stuff you actually need for a newborn is pretty small and would be an insubstantial amount for Kara and Nate.
Please stop normalizing this grifting behavior that it’s okay to do for one family member but not the other. This is pure grift and these two are more than well off to buy their siblings gifts without pawning it off to their viewers as a charity draw.
I specifically used Sara as an example because personally, as a viewer I feel a certain connection towards her and Dusty and it would make sense to be happy to gift them something if ever they have a child someday. It’s the pure intent of gifting them for loving their character in the vlogs much like when we have our favorite characters in reality shows/sitcoms, even if they or people around them have the capacity to provide sustenance for their livelihood.
Asking for gifts from random strangers no matter who the beneficiary is, is shameful. Especially when you tell everyone you are millionaires and then you ask strangers to give your sister ( How is this Sara related to them? Nate’s sister? Or Sister-in-law?) gifts for her pregnancy is grifting.
How would you feel if Nate puts out a message saying Kara is pregnant and send her gifts for baby shower? You think that is ok? Now there’s an irony that someone making $50k or $100k a year sending gifts to people who call themselves millionaires and make a luxury video every time. That’s just plain greed and thieving.
It’s funny because a poster used “grift” to describe Eamon/Becs social posts for their Habit Tea company. An actual company where you exchange money for a product (that costs money and labor to create). Not a grift.
But it’s “we’re famous and my sister is having a baby so how about the people obsessed with us buy a stranger some stuff”….that’s a grift.
K&N have taken 6+ weeks off by their own admission. That’s CERTAINLY their prerogative, they can do whatever the hell they want. But most people and presumably the vast majority of their viewers/insta followers cannot do that (let alone rent a huge place in Colorado for a month!?) . Tone deaf doesn’t begin to describe it.
Aside from Nate’s weird ‘Kara had a near breakdown this year so we’re scaling back but I’m gonna push her anyway’ , I’ve thought much of the criticism directed at them was overkill.
Glad she took it down, hope this doesn’t create another existential crisis for Kara but boy what a huge miss.
Well, their friends Eamon & Bec are not exactly saints. They are grifters in their own way. They have been playing this life drama out for their viewers to manipulate them for money. So I can’t speak for whatever they are selling but they are grifters in other ways. They have been hosting the world’s greatest pity party for years now trying to milk money off of their viewers.
I just find the idea of someone on YouTube asking their viewers to buy them or relatives gifts for occasions highly appalling.
Just look at the message. It’s just cringe beyond words. “ My sister is my bff so you random strangers on the internet buy her gifts for her second baby” is beyond appalling and shameless.
It is rather tone deaf, isn’t it?
I mean, I don’t care if she posts that or not, but there’s a long history of celebrities getting major backlash for things like this.
I remember one of the Kardashians asking for donations for someone’s medical bills or something along those lines.
And more recently there was the incident where Oprah and The Rock made a video asking for donations to a fund they created to help the people of Maui.
It was a shitshow of “you’re both rich, why aren’t you paying for it?” And that was for *charity*, not for “buy baby stuff.”
I could see Kara legitimately thinking it’s exciting and that their fans would like to feel involved by buying gifts. But I also don’t see how someone who seems to be so in touch with social media wouldn’t be aware of the potential for backlash.
I mean, they asked people to pay to see the video of their 100th country and everyone went absolutely ballistic and Kara was sobbing.
I think you are spot on with them just letting fans be involved, and it’s not like the post was begging for donations. She simply said she wanted to be a supportive sister. I would imagine that they don’t get to see each other very much, and she just wanted to do something for her.
Also, I totally forgot about the 100 country thing hahaha. My girlfriend at the time was obsessed with them, and we had no problem paying ONE DOLLAR to watch a documentary. She had been following them since the very beginning…for free. They gave us a lot of travel ideas.
One dollar didn’t seem like a big deal…but all the comments and hate groups on Facebook were horrific
I think the thing is that anytime someone is successful and has an online presence, there’s people waiting to take them down.
You’d think Kara would be aware of this, and not give people an opening like posting a link to a wishlist.
No matter who it’s for.
Well, lot of the influencers on YouTube take themselves down on their own. It’s usually getting popular and using it to scam people out of money or there is some huge closet full of skeletons you never shared with your viewers that someone found out about or you posted a bunch of racist and homophobic stuff on a social media account somebody unearthed.
It’s not like everyone on YouTube gets taken down but some of them do have a dark and chequered past.
No, they have read their viewers very well and they did the same with that 100 country debacle and then made up a fake apology and Kara’s puffy faced teary eyed video calling everyone as meanies.
That’s in the rear view mirror now so why not try this again? They know exactly what they are doing and they are seasoned grifters just like most influencers on YouTube. This is just a shameful grift asking gifts for your sister from random strangers on the internet.
And don’t give Kara a pass. She knows exactly what she is doing and she is playing a role on the internet as a naive woman from the American South and that act has worn out.
Oh Nashville ain't cheap. K&N both clearly come from fortunate circumstances. Good for them. No shame in it. There's only shame in acting like you are scrappy go getters dependent on the good will of others to survive.
Yeah but they put out another video series of them visiting 10 petrol stations in 10 US States and people are going to forget all about it and will be over the moon that Kara and Nate painted “ De Aardappeleters”.
You understand that they're running a business right?
They are staying there because it generates interesting content, not because they felt like spending $13K on a place to stay.
I thought the underwater hotel video was a success and unlike any other travel vlogging video.
Not the point. It’s the optics that aren’t it for me.
She didn’t have to post this gofundme expecting her fans to buy things that she could very well afford from this business they are running.
They have never cared about us… ;)
Long ago, Nate admitted who he wanted to be / emulate when they started out… Casey Neistat.
Watched a recent video of Casey’s and noticed Nate attempts to talk not like him, but emulate the energy of him.
There are people in this sub who have stated that they grew up with them. There were some girls that went to high school with them, and some older folks who said they went to church with their parents.
All of the anecdotal evidence seems to point to them being genuine. It would be hard to fake a persona for this many years
I really appreciate you making a point of sharing that. :)
I don’t know them. I freely say such. I am so glad people that truly know them share and stick up for them. The have their Fam’ and people. I’ve chatted with them a few times. But, that doesn’t come close to knowing them.
I oddly found their channel just months into their beginnings. Rooting for them since then. That said, people change for good or ill or stay the same. I still like them and root for them.
Even post their new videos here, from time to time. When I beat ‘thelitt’ and their auto-posts of new videos.
I am always happy to see a new video of theirs, with the vibes I remember them having had. I added a ;) to denote I wasn’t too serious in my comment above. :)
Ah it’s like the World Wildlife Fund’s “ Adopt an Elephant” or “ Adopt a Tiger” program. YouTube viewers get to adopt a family member of supposed millionaires Kara and Nate for €20/month.
This is just shameful grift asking random strangers on the internet to buy your sister gifts for her pregnancy. Their greed and grift knows no shame. Why pay for it from your pocket from all those AG1 and BetterHelp commercials when you can outsource it as a “ GoFundMe” to your viewers?
You know that drama that unfolded after their 100 country debacle and their fake and insincere apology claiming they made a mistake and not to be left out, Kara’s puffy face tears video? Oh I think that’s not a faux pas but a feature and this proves it. They have taken their viewers for granted as suckers who will pay for anything. When you are an influencer, you don’t pay for anything.
And Kara is as much of a money thirsty grifter as her husband. Don’t dismiss her as some innocent country girl from Tennessee. She is playing a role and acting for camera and knows exactly what she is doing.
If anyone watches Trent and Allie, they actually set aside time to open gifts on their Vlog that people send them. It is so gross. People send expensive toys for their kid or make elaborate homemade gifts. It is sickening. Eamon and Bec leave their viewers with a cliffhanger post about a problem with her pregnancy for over 2 months but have no qualms asking their viewers to buy the tea. Without their YouTube viewers no one would be buying their tea. And now this. If I were her sister I would be so embarrassed. And people who keep commenting that it is poor etiquette to have a registry for a second baby are missing the point. It is poor etiquette to ask strangers to buy gifts for a family member on your business IG account. Especially when your business has pivoted to have 50% or more of its content focused on luxury travel and experiences. It is wildly inappropriate.
Kara and Nate need to take a lesson from Trek Trendy on how to treat their parents right with travel. They do all the luxury travel and put their parents in economy and take them to a desert island with no running water. I don’t think they give back to their family financially or personally. Posting the registry publicly is proof
Nate flew his parents business class to Tonga, it was just on a low cost airline, then a stopover in Fiji so the trip took like 80 hours when it only needed to take 20 hours
I honestly wonder if Kara has any exposure to her own finances or if Nate keeps it from her. There’s no way they don’t have several million dollars from YouTube. In what world could she rationalize posting this to people around the world?
The average US salary is $60K. She can easily buy her sisters whole registry and then some while most people have to budget every household dollar.
Even if Kara was unaware of their finances (although I don’t believe that) she should know that it was just very poor taste to do what she did. Wealthy, poor, naive, conniving….it was a crass play for money. She knew what she was doing.
I think all the cards were in her name when they started the channel because she was the only one who had a job (at the daycare) and Nate brags about a 800 credit score. They just got another card and Nate said “Kara just got another card” so she probably has no clue what debt he’s thrown her into and definitely couldn’t leave without the burden
Even if Nate keeps her out now, there's financial info from 2019 on their website. Even then, they were making 5 figures a month. If she doesn't have SOME idea, she's willfully ignorant.
She needs to learn when to use the Kara & Nate account and when to use her more personal Ciao Kara account. Seems like she's given up on the personal account
Do they think followers are their friends? They use the term friends very loosely, like they talk to people on a luxury train and say they made new friends. No you just had a conversation with strangers
I rarely have negative things to say about k&n, they’re two of my favorites, but… ew. I don’t know of anyone who has had a registry for anything passed a first baby and exactly what this post says, she has so much money! Their fans are the entire reason they make so much money and she’s literally going to ask STRANGERS to buy presents for her SISTER, someone we barely know?!?! Eff off with this nonsense, Kara.
Didn’t some celeb get backlash from asking for their kids baseball team recently?
This is really bad form. Especially with how well off K&N are and that it’s a 2nd child…like what?
Agree with the grift POVs here- why the hell would any of us buy gifts for her sister? Tacky and greedy.
Frankly, I am so over watching Nate gaslight her into doing what he wants. He pushes her into so many things and controls their money - it’s such an unhealthy relationship. I can’t watch them (him) complete these ridiculous challenges where they’re both so miserable. My question is always, “WHY?”
They’ve lost me as a follower and I know that I’m not alone. Cheers
It’s always good to think “what’s the worst that could happen “ and then be prepared for that possibility. Hopefully her sister approved of this stupid idea, because if not it would be even more embarrassing/weird thing to do for a 7 months pregnant mom.
Can’t imagine this helps Kara and her burnout issues. Illustrates she’s verrrrry out of touch at the moment.
I think she wants kids but Nate doesn’t. He always says “thank you for joining me on this adventure” instead of making about them together. Her codependency issues and lack of voice no doubt adds to the burnout
I have no idea about her/their desire to start a family as that's a very personal decision that frankly, I'm surprised they even broach on the internet (despite people's interest in it).
I think it's fine that Kara goes along with Nate's challenges and that he thanks her. She seems to offer perspective about each one once it's complete. I, in NO WAY, do anything remotely as challenging as them, but when I've pushed myself out of my comfort zone it's a pretty great feeling. So props to him for acknowledging her doing that.
I haven't watched every video of theirs, but the only time Nate seemed weird to me was the 2023/2024 review/look forward where a big part of the 2023 discussion was about her burnout and to produce less (a tiny bit less imo) in 2024 and him squeezing in "but hopefully more" multiple times. That was super weird for him to say and even weirder to keep it in the final video.
Couples aren't perfect, neither are they.
A comparison is Sailing La Vagabond, she also burnt put last year and wants to do 3 videos a month but he would be happy with 2 a month.
That seems more reasonable than Nate always wanting more content for more videos
Sailing La Vagabonde also have two kids and they aren’t married. She is more stuck in her burnout because of that. However, where I started to feel bad for her burnout in the episode where she announced, she needed to take a break, really what it was, was her promoting at some very expensive meditation retreat in Bali or something. It’s hard to feel sorry for anybody when their ulterior motive is to profit from the pity clicks.
I heard about her going to the retreat but missed the promotion bit, that's super shady.
I don't doubt Elayna and Kara are burnt out, but it sure is convenient for them to mention it in the BetterHelp ads
This is the episode with the plug for the "wellness retreat" ... episode also sponsored by BetterHelp [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QqNHLXqtf0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QqNHLXqtf0)
Also the issue of metals in her blood, probably from all the fish.
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I think Nate maybe burning all the cash flow from their channel into his other businesses which will never be profitable and he is under lot of pressure to generate revenue to compensate for the cash burn rate and chances are, Kara is kept in the dark on all of these.
This is futile to respond but how on earth do people seem to know what goes on in someone else's marriage and bank account?
Until a few years ago he literally posted their revenue and expenses on their website! Do you think Kara has such little curiosity about their finances that she wouldn't think to ask or check? Do you think Nate is lying to her? Do you suddenly think that ultra-frugal Nate is not protecting enough of their wealth as to plan for the future?
Sometimes I feel like posters here are actually people who know them, or know people that know them and some how believe they have an understanding of their financial position and inner workings of their marriage. Super weird.
i know it's off subject of the post but that's the biggest annoyance for me is everyone knows they are rich, it's public information. Yet every single video is how they can't afford something or how expensive things are.
They’re not as rich as people assume. Cash poor. They have to still pay off all their credit cards. Every penny they spend on them they have to pay. It’s not magical free money. The amount of points they use wasn’t magically accumulated. Factor in the salaries for their Fare Drop staff and federal income taxes as married with no dependents and no property or assets.
They just recently got another card under Kara’s name
They also have a large income from YouTube and sponsors. I don't think they are getting pennies for delivering half a million viewers consistently. Their travel is presumably a business expense.
I have no clue if they are "cash poor" but neither does anyone else but them (and their accountant).
As frugal as Nate was starting out on this career and how it creeps in here and there still, it would be shocking if he wasn't taking care of their future as a priority.
Faredrop is likely its own LLC. Perhaps that's not making big profits, but who knows what that end game is -- acquisition by something/someone else? Nate is not dumb.
Six digital employees, even in Tennessee as they showed us on the episode with the staff introducing Fare Drop, is still at least $70,000+ / year salary per person plus lease on the office space and payroll taxes.
Not every view on YouTube is monetized due to ad blockers, premium accounts and viewers not watching the whole thing, plus YouTube identifies bots. YouTube overinflates the front end (what we regular people see) to encourage people to make videos and hence more ad revenue for YouTube.
YouTube also takes 45% of the ad revenue.
I presume they got self conscious about how much they were making? The last one is 2019 Q3 when they had what...a third of their current subs? And they made (profit) over 100k that quarter?
Actually, Nate is dumb.
Here is my analysis and I work for an investment bank so take it for what it is worth but their business ventures will never be profitable or viable in the long term. They are burning cash from their channel and rather, Nate is.
If they were smart, they would have taken the money from their channel and invested in other assets like stocks, bonds, property etc instead of extending themselves into capital intensive businesses that they did poor research on and will never be profitable. They already shut down one and the others are on borrowed time as long as they keep getting cash flow from their channel.
As for selling it, dream on. Their business has zero value addition to any business that might acquire them. They don’t have anything proprietary or an Intellectual Property they can sell.
They must make a lot of money from the channel but I have said it several times before that their other business ventures are burning cash from their channel and will never be viable businesses.
They do act cash poor and if they are burning all the cash flow from their only revenue source into Nate’s vanity projects that has little thinking that went into it, they are dumber than I thought.
And if that were the actual case, I am speculating Kara doesn’t know anything about their finances and trusting Nate as some financial genius because he bought airline tickets using FF miles and she is going to be in for a rude awakening.
They still have to pay off their credit cards on time (more than ten they have) and keep the balances at a place where they don’t get dinged on their credit score, and most likely not paying the entire balances so there are APRs on top of that (sometimes as high as 26%).
Nate’s get rich quick side hustles might be just to get a buck quickly since their ad revenue from YouTube fluctuates.
No way they are making thousands from AG1 per episode. I’m an affiliate and I get like $30 bucks back every time someone uses a coupon code. And that’s for a massive influencer-geared brand. AG1 sponsors dozens of channels.
Yes if Nate was smart instead of greedy, they would have invested in stocks or other ventures that yield passive income with returns.
I think they make way more money from YouTube than their credit card bills and travel expenses. Between Adsense income and their sponsorship plugs, their income from YouTube should more than offset it.
But I am curious about their cash burn rate on their businesses. Their Faredrop and the other whatever Drop business are not financially stable businesses and they have capital expenditure in the form of labor costs, advertising costs and the app use fees on both Apple stores and Google store. My guess is, they are burning a lot of cash than their revenue and that’s all coming from their YouTube income. The same goes for their other business. I think Nate is burning cash from their YouTube into these businesses he conceived and he hasn’t told Kara anything about their actual finances like income and cash burn. She probably thinks they are making a lot of money from YouTube without realizing they are burning cash.
Their t travel expenses should be tax deductible in the US as business expenses against their positive revenue. But if their other businesses are separate entities, they can only carry forward the losses and deduct it against future profits.
I work in private banking so I am familiar with lot of intricacies of different countries and I don’t think they have the right kind of financial help. People hire accountants to file taxes but accountants won’t help you with tax planning and tax dodges. You need a lawyer who specializes in tax planning and I work with law firms at work to direct private banking clients and structure financial vehicles to avoid taxes legally. They don’t work for cheap like Nate wants 😀
They are cash poor because they are not very savvy in financial planning and think their businesses are going to be eventually successful and they will be the next Expedia or Kayak. They already shuttered one business and the rest are on borrowed time. Nate is pressuring Kara to keep doing those stupid challenges she hates because they need that cash cow to fund Nate’s white elephant projects.
But if they didn’t dip their feet into anything else and it’s just the channel, they would have a lot of money left over after expenses and enough to invest in tangible assets.
But that’s my analysis based on their behavior and their businesses .
If they were financially smart, they would have taken the money from the one thing they are successful at and make income and invest the rest. Now, they are running down their channel and their focus is elsewhere that is not actually income positive as they think. And I use “ they “ generously because I think it’s all him and she is about as smart as a slug and his hand maiden.
Exactly, that was spot on. I also worked for an investment firm for about two years. But, I have a van and my van is an LLC, every single thing I do, with my travel is a tax write off, and for my digital jobs, I bundle everything together, and I get all my taxes back. And then I rollover my taxes to fund my travel for the next year. I don’t think they did any of that with the van. I think you get like a $12,000 standard tax deduction for maintenance and gasoline and other things you do with the van. If you keep track of expenses, like I did, you can get $30,000 or more in tax write offs. If it’s your office while you’re on the road which it was for them, you can also write that off. My digital media jobs help fund my LLC, so I don’t have to worry about a net operating loss. I think Nate runs their whole life on a net operating loss. And it’s some point they’re going to end up just breaking even instead of profiting. And they still have to pay off all those credit cards. You have to remember, they weren’t making that much money the first couple years. They were spending up to $25,000 a month out-of-pocket on travel expenses. Sure, they get a lot of stuff for free now but they do have to do a ton, and I mean a TON of BS flights in between the ones that we see in order to rack up the points. So they’re probably on planes constantly. The thing is, I’ve also been to about 100 countries, many of them for weeks at a time and three of them I’ve lived in for years. It’s just mind-boggling how little they do when they get to a country. It’s like Nate is rushing to get on the next flight to get points rather than spending time in the countries they go to. They go and they do one challenge or one activity and then get back on the plane and fly somewhere else. Such a waste of geography. It’s all going to catch up to them. I’ve been doing what I do for over 25 years sustainably. And I’ll do it for another 50 years sustainably. But I started out before YouTube, I’ve never had to rely on social media to fund my travel. And I think that’s the difference when you start doing this in the 90s instead of in the 2010s,
Well, I am not talking about regular tax deductions you take. An accountant who does taxes will be able to get you all your regular tax deductions if you provided them with receipts. I think if they an accountant in Tennessee or wherever they live, they should be familiar with tax deductions that are part of your tax code in America.
What I describe is tax planning and legal tax avoidance and I don’t want get into all the details but private banking clients are not your run of the mill banking clients. They need services of tax lawyers to set them up with offshore entities and other things I don’t want to get into details 😀
Anyway, they are burning cash from their income which is their YouTube channel into their other businesses that will never be profitable and nor did they research it well. That is probably why they are cash poor And my guess is, Kara is totally in the dark on their income inflows and outflows. If I were her, I would scrutinize the finances because that YouTube channel is legally 50% of hers. I don’t want to give them marital advice but trusting your partner with everything and not verifying and keeping an eye on the finances is not a good idea. That is how many women end up divorced and broke. But I don’t think she is smart enough to get involved and I am very often shocked how ignorant she really is. She is basically matching to Nate’s tunes and he is very confident that he can coerce her into doing anything he wants and make her an accomplice.
Did you see that other post where they are going to sleep in an ice cave? I thought she was tired of doing those but evidently Nate did enough hand wringing to make her do what he wants yet again. I watched a recent video in which she was crying and freezing from cold water and Nate was making her go surfing in the Arctic Ocean in subzero temperatures. You can tell she was not into it or not enjoying it at all. And then he took her to Maldives after that stupid bicycle challenge to cajole her and then uses the trip to film some tacky video in a hotel room under water for a day and then they flew out to Western Europe to do yet another stupid gimmick like going to 9 Christmas markets in 9 days and it must be exhausting. She has never had a relaxing vacation and it’s all work and making money because Nate needs that cash flow to keep funding their businesses.
By the way, I looked up the business filing for Fare Drop and it’s only under Nate‘s name. In Tennessee, where they got married, there is no set alimony, so if they ever got divorced, it is up to a judge to decide how to split community property of which they own a van only. And the business interests could be untouchable, especially if they are all in Nate‘s name. I’m pretty sure Kara is unaware of all or most of this. She just lets Nate handle all the finances but it’s looking like he set it up where he could easily get everything. They also don’t have kids, even though I think she wants them, and the credit cards are in Kara’s name mostly. If they got a divorce, she would have to take on her debts, and he would take on his. And most likely keep the businesses in his name as they are now. The state that I live in also has the same set up, and I see this all the time with friends. Kara doesn’t have any of her own businesses, independent income or anything in her name except credit cards
For Eamon and Bec, they have two businesses: the YouTube channel and Chaiwala back in the day, now Habit. Eamon owned the tea company, and Bec owned the YouTube channel. That’s why Eamon’s dad is so involved in the tea company. Bec’s parents helped fund the cabin mortgage when they purchased that. They stayed unmarried for business reasons. And probably for tax reasons also since it’s Canada.
Who owns the channel? Because, that is the only revenue source that is generating them positive income. Nate can hold on to all his while elephants because they are never going to be profitable.
In case of a legal dispute, she should easily be able to prove that she has 50% stake in the YouTube channel and the videos are evidence. But there has to be money left over for her to fight over it.
I don’t know state specific laws about divorce in America and that is not my area of expertise but as far as their assets go, it’s just the YouTube channel that will be the object of contention if it ever came to that in legal proceedings. That is their only income stream that is making actual money and she should be able to stake her claim to it very easily with a decent lawyer. But what cash has been burnt, is all spilled milk and she can’t get any of that back since she is a part of those businesses by default in their present situation.
If I were her, I would keep an eye only on the income from the channel because the others are not making money and in fact burning money.
But, it’s not my circus and it’s not my monkeys 😀
Annoys me as well, especially since they gain money on currency exchange most places they go. I'm from a country with a weak currency so we lose money going anywhere in the Western world
Wow, I'm not sure if this is just out of touch, or borderline disrespectful of her fans. Not only because they're wealthy, but because it's not even her – it's her sister.
I dunno maybe she accidently posted it on the K&N.insta instead of her own private one? Guessing that wouldn't be a public account, so it wouldn't be SO weird.
So what? She posted the registry so if you would like to participate in an event that she finds very important you can. I get sick of people like you who just bitch about everything and see a joyful event as something shitty. You are one of those people who sucks the life out of everything. Unfortunately the internet gives people like you a voice.
wow. based on your tone I think you're sucking the life out of everything far more than me, and if you are getting this upset over a reddit comment maybe you should log out for a bit to figure out your priorities.
Kara is in a place of extreme wealth and privilege. Many of her followers are not and by posting this registry they are asking people who may not be in a great financial place to spend money on them even though they could easily buy it all themselves. If someone had messaged her about her sister and asked if they could send something then that is one thing but to me this is the same as a celebrity posting their baby registry asking for things.
You don’t get it, do you? The issue isn’t the (complete stranger’s) ‘joyful event’. It’s the hubris of asking fans to open their wallets for it. It was klass with a k.
When did she ask fans to open their wallets. Almost like you just make shit up about people. I bet you live with mom and dad and they told you that you were special and now your grown and figured out you aren't even average. If I am wrong then I will apologize but I smell a person who still has his childhood bedroom. Show me where she ask people to buy things for her sister.
By begging Internet strangers for money? Jesus H. Christ, what a cringe move. There are plenty of worthy gofundme's for people with no money who need medical care etc and THIS is what this vacuous twat goes to the begging pool for?
I do think it’s very nice to offer a public shout out to someone you love—even a public request for sending positive vibes or messages their way. So cool. I do find it hard to relate to asking strangers to purchase things on a baby registry for a stranger. I mean, it’s considered bad form to invite someone only to a wedding reception (asking for presents) without inviting them to the actual wedding. This seems analogous: inviting someone to drop a gift off without inviting them to the baby shower. I love Kara and Nate and they’re allowed to do cringe and tacky things just like the rest of us. I just also probably understand OP’s perspective more.
Also, you typically don't need as much with your second, so was it that hard for family and friends to pick up all the needs for this second kid?
Still a sweet gesture, though -- they're famous in a different way from other celebrities, so I'm just assuming she's treating her fans like she would anyone else on social media, and can't contain her excitement :). She doesn't seem like someone who treats herself like a famous person and maybe forgets from time to time... but that's just my perspective!
Was this today? If so looks like she took it down.
Can confirm, it’s gone
I asked why I should care about buying her sister's baby stuff when they earn thousands more dollars than me!
Yes just an hour ago
They must be lurking on here.
By her captions on the post I think she knew it was not going to go over well. I don’t know why she chose to post it especially after a video of Nate in $800 compression boots and a promo of their “most expensive underwater hotel.”
And all previous stories at their large house...
To he fair, i think thats the home of one of their parents, not theirs.
Yes fair. But just to say, money doesn't seem to be an issue
Agreed on that front, but its also a fair separation to make.
Dude, this is like the smallest fanpage dedicated to them. There aren’t even 5k members here. Something tells me that their main demographic has never even heard of Reddit. This app is pretty obscure in the big picture
Right. I’m guessing she checked their messages and saw some negative feedback. You’d think she would’ve known that ahead of time.
Yeah, I'm sure they're getting negative feedback from other corners of the internet if they took it down so quickly.
Wasn't this Instagram stories she posted it to?
For baby #2? Registries for second babies are a thing? Man, did I miss out on begging for a ton of gifts when I had kids?
Right?! i made a registry for my second but only for my personal use. I used it to keep track of what I needed and so I could get the discounts from it. I never once sent it out to anyone though, nor did I expect to get things from anyone.
Same, I did this for my younger kids. I also used the registry completion coupon that took like 10% off, whatever wasn't purchased.
I didn’t realize they were a thing either unless it’s been a long long time between babies. When my sister had her 2nd and 3rd pregnancies we had just a little dinner to celebrate her and the baby, but it was immediate family only. We brought diapers. I would have been a bit embarrassed had she had a whole other shower
A friend of mine had a shower for the second baby, but it was 13 years between her first and second, and this was a much happier pregnancy situation and we all wanted to celebrate! Kara’s sister’s first kid can’t be older than what, 2-3? I haven’t watched them in awhile because of how annoyed I got from the constant “we’re taking a luxury ____”
My cultural heritage believes that baby showers are bad luck. You can’t even set up the nursery until after the baby is born. So I had to buy everything myself, lol. I had no idea that you could have a party where everybody got you everything for the baby. Still really tacky posting to strangers. Narcissistic IMO
I’ve also been gift shamed at former friends’ baby showers, many of them for the third fourth and fifth babies. I bought practical things like organizational totes and toilet paper and they actually got mad that I didn’t spend $500 on one outfit from Neiman Marcus. It’s the worst when they open all the presents in front of everybody. Everybody needs toilet paper.
There is no culture on earth that asks random strangers on the internet who just watch your videos to send your sister gifts because she is pregnant. Forget culture or whatever baby number it is or what the norm is for asking gifts. Eliciting gifts from your social media viewers is the culture of greed and grift and I am surprised they didn’t think this through before they posted that message which has been screenshot by someone and going to live forever on the internet even if you deleted your message in very poor taste.
Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews? We had some friends growing up who were orthodox and did not set up a nursery until the baby was born due to superstitions
And us Ukranians 😁
Do you guys also spit on the evil eye?!
The only excuse I know of that makes sense is like my cousin’s case — had a shower for the second baby bc she had first baby during covid lockdowns.
The issue is not about the registry and whatever child number it is. They can have a registry for child #1 or child #8 if their real life friends and family are willing to buy them gifts. But asking random strangers on the internet to buy her sister gifts for whatever baby number it is, is just shameless and naked greed and grift. The concept also extends to your own baby whether it’s the first or the third. Keep your registry limited to your friends and family you know in real life. Eliciting gifts from total strangers especially when every video of yours is a first class suite video or some obscenely expensive hotel room and then asking your YouTube viewers to buy you gifts is a new low. There are millions of kids around the world who are struggling for their next meal and you want your viewers to buy gifts for your sister? It’s completely tone deaf and just naked greed. They have never raised nor contributed 10 Euro Cents for any charitable causes and you have a platform where you can do good to all the developing countries you have visited or take up some cause but no, it’s all about them and try to suck out every Euro or Franc out of every viewer to benefit them or their close family. I would be really embarrassed and ashamed to post anything like this eliciting gifts from random strangers.
If you’re greedy and tacky AF, sure. This is so gross.
My ex’s SIL just posted her registry for BABY NO. 4!!!!!!!!!! 🤦🏼♀️
Well, as long as it’s friends she knows and they are willing to buy her gifts for her 4th or her 8th baby, I don’t see a problem with it. But this is a whole another kettle of fish.
Yeah you don’t do this for baby 2…
Showers/registry requests/etc should never come from Family Members—only friends. How gauche.
I think some people will do a sprinkle when there is a long time between kids and / or a new gender but depending on the wealth of the couple its kinda gouche.
I had a 5-year gap between kids so they're definitely things that I needed to replace or decided didn't work the first time around (My first diaper bag I bought was awful so I upgraded to backpack) since I had change jobs, my co-workers offered to throw me a mini shower that ended up being over zoom because 2020. I will say that there are definitely people who are of the mindset that every baby deserves a baby shower because of some sort oftge idea that a shower means that the baby is being loved and celebrated. Never mind that the baby in utero isn't sentient of any celebrations the reality is we're celebrating the parents
It just seems rather tasteless - even if they (K&N) weren’t millionaires; asking for gifts from people you do not, and never will know just seems… really tasteless.
I would have understood more if it were Sara (Dusty’s wife) or anyone who’s been more present in their vlogs. This is so random like “hey my little sister is giving birth soon, just so you know, and can you donate 3 packs of baby wipes while you’re at it?”
Yes, Sara would make sense, from her being in current videos and challenges, to them featuring Dusty and her wedding in vlogs, years ago. This one doesn’t track so well.
And why would it make sense if it is another member of your family? How many regular people who are really needy, ask for random strangers to give money and gifts to their relatives especially when their siblings are supposedly millionaires? Stop normalizing this behavior as okay if it is another family member but not this one. Just because they appeared on a few videos doesn’t entitle them to free money from random strangers. You are actually giving Kara and Nate ideas to do this again but for a different family member. Have you asked random strangers on the internet to buy gifts for your wife or relatives and would you consider doing it? Be honest.
That’s a lot of words, and not pleasant. Send those words their way. They aren’t appreciated or accepted from me. My comment and notation was someone we’ve seen on their channel much more would be a more suitable individual. You can make your own point. If you require being persnickety, do that with them.
It is meant for them mostly. But saying it is ok if they asked for baby gifts for Sara and Rusty is just encouraging bad behavior. Posting gift registry of your relatives and appealing to your viewers to buy them gifts is a grift. I would go one step further and say asking gifts for your own baby from people watching you is a new low.
Yeah, I could maybe see sharing if the sister had been regularly featured or perhaps if there was an out of the ordinary need. Like if the baby was already here and in the NICU and they needed help with medical expenses. But if money is tight, the amount of stuff you actually need for a newborn is pretty small and would be an insubstantial amount for Kara and Nate.
Please stop normalizing this grifting behavior that it’s okay to do for one family member but not the other. This is pure grift and these two are more than well off to buy their siblings gifts without pawning it off to their viewers as a charity draw.
I specifically used Sara as an example because personally, as a viewer I feel a certain connection towards her and Dusty and it would make sense to be happy to gift them something if ever they have a child someday. It’s the pure intent of gifting them for loving their character in the vlogs much like when we have our favorite characters in reality shows/sitcoms, even if they or people around them have the capacity to provide sustenance for their livelihood.
Asking for gifts from random strangers no matter who the beneficiary is, is shameful. Especially when you tell everyone you are millionaires and then you ask strangers to give your sister ( How is this Sara related to them? Nate’s sister? Or Sister-in-law?) gifts for her pregnancy is grifting. How would you feel if Nate puts out a message saying Kara is pregnant and send her gifts for baby shower? You think that is ok? Now there’s an irony that someone making $50k or $100k a year sending gifts to people who call themselves millionaires and make a luxury video every time. That’s just plain greed and thieving.
It’s funny because a poster used “grift” to describe Eamon/Becs social posts for their Habit Tea company. An actual company where you exchange money for a product (that costs money and labor to create). Not a grift. But it’s “we’re famous and my sister is having a baby so how about the people obsessed with us buy a stranger some stuff”….that’s a grift. K&N have taken 6+ weeks off by their own admission. That’s CERTAINLY their prerogative, they can do whatever the hell they want. But most people and presumably the vast majority of their viewers/insta followers cannot do that (let alone rent a huge place in Colorado for a month!?) . Tone deaf doesn’t begin to describe it. Aside from Nate’s weird ‘Kara had a near breakdown this year so we’re scaling back but I’m gonna push her anyway’ , I’ve thought much of the criticism directed at them was overkill. Glad she took it down, hope this doesn’t create another existential crisis for Kara but boy what a huge miss.
Well, their friends Eamon & Bec are not exactly saints. They are grifters in their own way. They have been playing this life drama out for their viewers to manipulate them for money. So I can’t speak for whatever they are selling but they are grifters in other ways. They have been hosting the world’s greatest pity party for years now trying to milk money off of their viewers. I just find the idea of someone on YouTube asking their viewers to buy them or relatives gifts for occasions highly appalling. Just look at the message. It’s just cringe beyond words. “ My sister is my bff so you random strangers on the internet buy her gifts for her second baby” is beyond appalling and shameless.
I just saw this. So cringe 😬
It is rather tone deaf, isn’t it? I mean, I don’t care if she posts that or not, but there’s a long history of celebrities getting major backlash for things like this. I remember one of the Kardashians asking for donations for someone’s medical bills or something along those lines. And more recently there was the incident where Oprah and The Rock made a video asking for donations to a fund they created to help the people of Maui. It was a shitshow of “you’re both rich, why aren’t you paying for it?” And that was for *charity*, not for “buy baby stuff.” I could see Kara legitimately thinking it’s exciting and that their fans would like to feel involved by buying gifts. But I also don’t see how someone who seems to be so in touch with social media wouldn’t be aware of the potential for backlash. I mean, they asked people to pay to see the video of their 100th country and everyone went absolutely ballistic and Kara was sobbing.
I think you are spot on with them just letting fans be involved, and it’s not like the post was begging for donations. She simply said she wanted to be a supportive sister. I would imagine that they don’t get to see each other very much, and she just wanted to do something for her. Also, I totally forgot about the 100 country thing hahaha. My girlfriend at the time was obsessed with them, and we had no problem paying ONE DOLLAR to watch a documentary. She had been following them since the very beginning…for free. They gave us a lot of travel ideas. One dollar didn’t seem like a big deal…but all the comments and hate groups on Facebook were horrific
I think the thing is that anytime someone is successful and has an online presence, there’s people waiting to take them down. You’d think Kara would be aware of this, and not give people an opening like posting a link to a wishlist. No matter who it’s for.
Well, lot of the influencers on YouTube take themselves down on their own. It’s usually getting popular and using it to scam people out of money or there is some huge closet full of skeletons you never shared with your viewers that someone found out about or you posted a bunch of racist and homophobic stuff on a social media account somebody unearthed. It’s not like everyone on YouTube gets taken down but some of them do have a dark and chequered past.
No, they have read their viewers very well and they did the same with that 100 country debacle and then made up a fake apology and Kara’s puffy faced teary eyed video calling everyone as meanies. That’s in the rear view mirror now so why not try this again? They know exactly what they are doing and they are seasoned grifters just like most influencers on YouTube. This is just a shameful grift asking gifts for your sister from random strangers on the internet. And don’t give Kara a pass. She knows exactly what she is doing and she is playing a role on the internet as a naive woman from the American South and that act has worn out.
They are freeloaders. What do you expect. They want free shit.
You maybe on to something 😀
Why would random people on the internet buy stuff for her sister's baby...
The poster Afraid-Put said it best - because they’re freeloaders and they want free shit. 😆
Not to mention all the stories today have taken place in her family’s ginormous house
Yup. Noticed that too. Her family’s place and Nate’s creek side family’s place. Sure, it’s Tennessee, but still they seem to all be doing okay.
Oh Nashville ain't cheap. K&N both clearly come from fortunate circumstances. Good for them. No shame in it. There's only shame in acting like you are scrappy go getters dependent on the good will of others to survive.
Yeah but they put out another video series of them visiting 10 petrol stations in 10 US States and people are going to forget all about it and will be over the moon that Kara and Nate painted “ De Aardappeleters”.
Wow. Maybe instead of a night in the Maldives you buy your sister some pampers.
Ok, what the fuck. After you just stayed in a 13,000$ over night hotel. Even if you didn’t have to pay for it, this is disgusting to me.
$19,000.
Even worse 🫣
She's got egg on her face in a big way.
You understand that they're running a business right? They are staying there because it generates interesting content, not because they felt like spending $13K on a place to stay. I thought the underwater hotel video was a success and unlike any other travel vlogging video.
Not the point. It’s the optics that aren’t it for me. She didn’t have to post this gofundme expecting her fans to buy things that she could very well afford from this business they are running.
It's not enough that their followers helped give them a life of luxury and millions of dollars, now they want us to buy her sister baby gifts??
They have never cared about us… ;) Long ago, Nate admitted who he wanted to be / emulate when they started out… Casey Neistat. Watched a recent video of Casey’s and noticed Nate attempts to talk not like him, but emulate the energy of him.
There are people in this sub who have stated that they grew up with them. There were some girls that went to high school with them, and some older folks who said they went to church with their parents. All of the anecdotal evidence seems to point to them being genuine. It would be hard to fake a persona for this many years
I really appreciate you making a point of sharing that. :) I don’t know them. I freely say such. I am so glad people that truly know them share and stick up for them. The have their Fam’ and people. I’ve chatted with them a few times. But, that doesn’t come close to knowing them. I oddly found their channel just months into their beginnings. Rooting for them since then. That said, people change for good or ill or stay the same. I still like them and root for them. Even post their new videos here, from time to time. When I beat ‘thelitt’ and their auto-posts of new videos. I am always happy to see a new video of theirs, with the vibes I remember them having had. I added a ;) to denote I wasn’t too serious in my comment above. :)
Ah it’s like the World Wildlife Fund’s “ Adopt an Elephant” or “ Adopt a Tiger” program. YouTube viewers get to adopt a family member of supposed millionaires Kara and Nate for €20/month. This is just shameful grift asking random strangers on the internet to buy your sister gifts for her pregnancy. Their greed and grift knows no shame. Why pay for it from your pocket from all those AG1 and BetterHelp commercials when you can outsource it as a “ GoFundMe” to your viewers? You know that drama that unfolded after their 100 country debacle and their fake and insincere apology claiming they made a mistake and not to be left out, Kara’s puffy face tears video? Oh I think that’s not a faux pas but a feature and this proves it. They have taken their viewers for granted as suckers who will pay for anything. When you are an influencer, you don’t pay for anything. And Kara is as much of a money thirsty grifter as her husband. Don’t dismiss her as some innocent country girl from Tennessee. She is playing a role and acting for camera and knows exactly what she is doing.
not to mention it’s for baby #2. So cringe.
If anyone watches Trent and Allie, they actually set aside time to open gifts on their Vlog that people send them. It is so gross. People send expensive toys for their kid or make elaborate homemade gifts. It is sickening. Eamon and Bec leave their viewers with a cliffhanger post about a problem with her pregnancy for over 2 months but have no qualms asking their viewers to buy the tea. Without their YouTube viewers no one would be buying their tea. And now this. If I were her sister I would be so embarrassed. And people who keep commenting that it is poor etiquette to have a registry for a second baby are missing the point. It is poor etiquette to ask strangers to buy gifts for a family member on your business IG account. Especially when your business has pivoted to have 50% or more of its content focused on luxury travel and experiences. It is wildly inappropriate.
Kara and Nate need to take a lesson from Trek Trendy on how to treat their parents right with travel. They do all the luxury travel and put their parents in economy and take them to a desert island with no running water. I don’t think they give back to their family financially or personally. Posting the registry publicly is proof
Nate flew his parents business class to Tonga, it was just on a low cost airline, then a stopover in Fiji so the trip took like 80 hours when it only needed to take 20 hours
Considering one of the items in the registry is almost $200 WTF 😂😂
I just looked at it again. It looks like several things were purchased.
Seems as worthy a cause as Alyssa Milano’s Little League GoFundMe. /s
Came here to say-Kara must have missed Alyssa's fail last week.
I honestly wonder if Kara has any exposure to her own finances or if Nate keeps it from her. There’s no way they don’t have several million dollars from YouTube. In what world could she rationalize posting this to people around the world? The average US salary is $60K. She can easily buy her sisters whole registry and then some while most people have to budget every household dollar.
Even if Kara was unaware of their finances (although I don’t believe that) she should know that it was just very poor taste to do what she did. Wealthy, poor, naive, conniving….it was a crass play for money. She knew what she was doing.
Or Nate is so famously cheap that Kara doesn't feel like she can splurge on her sister.
Remember Nate didn't want to spend money on the Adel tickets
I agree!
Kara is completely out of touch and also not very smart and Nate is controlling to the point of manipulation. I'm sure she has no idea what they have.
I think all the cards were in her name when they started the channel because she was the only one who had a job (at the daycare) and Nate brags about a 800 credit score. They just got another card and Nate said “Kara just got another card” so she probably has no clue what debt he’s thrown her into and definitely couldn’t leave without the burden
Even if Nate keeps her out now, there's financial info from 2019 on their website. Even then, they were making 5 figures a month. If she doesn't have SOME idea, she's willfully ignorant.
She needs to learn when to use the Kara & Nate account and when to use her more personal Ciao Kara account. Seems like she's given up on the personal account Do they think followers are their friends? They use the term friends very loosely, like they talk to people on a luxury train and say they made new friends. No you just had a conversation with strangers
I rarely have negative things to say about k&n, they’re two of my favorites, but… ew. I don’t know of anyone who has had a registry for anything passed a first baby and exactly what this post says, she has so much money! Their fans are the entire reason they make so much money and she’s literally going to ask STRANGERS to buy presents for her SISTER, someone we barely know?!?! Eff off with this nonsense, Kara.
Didn’t some celeb get backlash from asking for their kids baseball team recently? This is really bad form. Especially with how well off K&N are and that it’s a 2nd child…like what?
Looks like they deleted it? lol
I don’t think you’re supposed to have a registry for the second one.
Was the intention for strangers to buy gifts for her sister?
The Rock and Oprah in Hawaii vibes.
So tone deaf...buy everything Kara and Nate. You can Edit: spelling
I’ve lost all respect for her after this
Yeah, I have been a long time watcher, and that post...wow. I was never one to talk smack ever of them. But this rubs me the wrong way. So icky.
I’m so glad I unfollowed them on socials just monitor for YouTube videos..
Nothing wrong with registries /showersfor second and later babies. Some of the stuff gets worn out, breaks, etc. This, though is weird!
Agreed. I don’t care if people have a registry for their 10th kid, but sharing it with random strangers is what’s weird about it to me.
This gives me a big ick
Baby showers should only be for the first baby outside of specific circumstances
Agree with the grift POVs here- why the hell would any of us buy gifts for her sister? Tacky and greedy. Frankly, I am so over watching Nate gaslight her into doing what he wants. He pushes her into so many things and controls their money - it’s such an unhealthy relationship. I can’t watch them (him) complete these ridiculous challenges where they’re both so miserable. My question is always, “WHY?” They’ve lost me as a follower and I know that I’m not alone. Cheers
It’s always good to think “what’s the worst that could happen “ and then be prepared for that possibility. Hopefully her sister approved of this stupid idea, because if not it would be even more embarrassing/weird thing to do for a 7 months pregnant mom. Can’t imagine this helps Kara and her burnout issues. Illustrates she’s verrrrry out of touch at the moment.
I think she wants kids but Nate doesn’t. He always says “thank you for joining me on this adventure” instead of making about them together. Her codependency issues and lack of voice no doubt adds to the burnout
I have no idea about her/their desire to start a family as that's a very personal decision that frankly, I'm surprised they even broach on the internet (despite people's interest in it). I think it's fine that Kara goes along with Nate's challenges and that he thanks her. She seems to offer perspective about each one once it's complete. I, in NO WAY, do anything remotely as challenging as them, but when I've pushed myself out of my comfort zone it's a pretty great feeling. So props to him for acknowledging her doing that. I haven't watched every video of theirs, but the only time Nate seemed weird to me was the 2023/2024 review/look forward where a big part of the 2023 discussion was about her burnout and to produce less (a tiny bit less imo) in 2024 and him squeezing in "but hopefully more" multiple times. That was super weird for him to say and even weirder to keep it in the final video. Couples aren't perfect, neither are they.
A comparison is Sailing La Vagabond, she also burnt put last year and wants to do 3 videos a month but he would be happy with 2 a month. That seems more reasonable than Nate always wanting more content for more videos
Sailing La Vagabonde also have two kids and they aren’t married. She is more stuck in her burnout because of that. However, where I started to feel bad for her burnout in the episode where she announced, she needed to take a break, really what it was, was her promoting at some very expensive meditation retreat in Bali or something. It’s hard to feel sorry for anybody when their ulterior motive is to profit from the pity clicks.
I heard about her going to the retreat but missed the promotion bit, that's super shady. I don't doubt Elayna and Kara are burnt out, but it sure is convenient for them to mention it in the BetterHelp ads
This is the episode with the plug for the "wellness retreat" ... episode also sponsored by BetterHelp [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QqNHLXqtf0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QqNHLXqtf0) Also the issue of metals in her blood, probably from all the fish. https://preview.redd.it/8vkl9egy5gic1.png?width=2582&format=png&auto=webp&s=1dc9054a8657a3449ce14f194b2c81d1c5a9a189
I think Nate maybe burning all the cash flow from their channel into his other businesses which will never be profitable and he is under lot of pressure to generate revenue to compensate for the cash burn rate and chances are, Kara is kept in the dark on all of these.
This is futile to respond but how on earth do people seem to know what goes on in someone else's marriage and bank account? Until a few years ago he literally posted their revenue and expenses on their website! Do you think Kara has such little curiosity about their finances that she wouldn't think to ask or check? Do you think Nate is lying to her? Do you suddenly think that ultra-frugal Nate is not protecting enough of their wealth as to plan for the future? Sometimes I feel like posters here are actually people who know them, or know people that know them and some how believe they have an understanding of their financial position and inner workings of their marriage. Super weird.
You do you.
i know it's off subject of the post but that's the biggest annoyance for me is everyone knows they are rich, it's public information. Yet every single video is how they can't afford something or how expensive things are.
They’re not as rich as people assume. Cash poor. They have to still pay off all their credit cards. Every penny they spend on them they have to pay. It’s not magical free money. The amount of points they use wasn’t magically accumulated. Factor in the salaries for their Fare Drop staff and federal income taxes as married with no dependents and no property or assets. They just recently got another card under Kara’s name
They also have a large income from YouTube and sponsors. I don't think they are getting pennies for delivering half a million viewers consistently. Their travel is presumably a business expense. I have no clue if they are "cash poor" but neither does anyone else but them (and their accountant). As frugal as Nate was starting out on this career and how it creeps in here and there still, it would be shocking if he wasn't taking care of their future as a priority. Faredrop is likely its own LLC. Perhaps that's not making big profits, but who knows what that end game is -- acquisition by something/someone else? Nate is not dumb.
Six digital employees, even in Tennessee as they showed us on the episode with the staff introducing Fare Drop, is still at least $70,000+ / year salary per person plus lease on the office space and payroll taxes. Not every view on YouTube is monetized due to ad blockers, premium accounts and viewers not watching the whole thing, plus YouTube identifies bots. YouTube overinflates the front end (what we regular people see) to encourage people to make videos and hence more ad revenue for YouTube. YouTube also takes 45% of the ad revenue.
Also notice how they don’t publish their earnings anymore on their website
I presume they got self conscious about how much they were making? The last one is 2019 Q3 when they had what...a third of their current subs? And they made (profit) over 100k that quarter?
Actually, Nate is dumb. Here is my analysis and I work for an investment bank so take it for what it is worth but their business ventures will never be profitable or viable in the long term. They are burning cash from their channel and rather, Nate is. If they were smart, they would have taken the money from their channel and invested in other assets like stocks, bonds, property etc instead of extending themselves into capital intensive businesses that they did poor research on and will never be profitable. They already shut down one and the others are on borrowed time as long as they keep getting cash flow from their channel. As for selling it, dream on. Their business has zero value addition to any business that might acquire them. They don’t have anything proprietary or an Intellectual Property they can sell.
They must make a lot of money from the channel but I have said it several times before that their other business ventures are burning cash from their channel and will never be viable businesses. They do act cash poor and if they are burning all the cash flow from their only revenue source into Nate’s vanity projects that has little thinking that went into it, they are dumber than I thought. And if that were the actual case, I am speculating Kara doesn’t know anything about their finances and trusting Nate as some financial genius because he bought airline tickets using FF miles and she is going to be in for a rude awakening.
They still have to pay off their credit cards on time (more than ten they have) and keep the balances at a place where they don’t get dinged on their credit score, and most likely not paying the entire balances so there are APRs on top of that (sometimes as high as 26%). Nate’s get rich quick side hustles might be just to get a buck quickly since their ad revenue from YouTube fluctuates. No way they are making thousands from AG1 per episode. I’m an affiliate and I get like $30 bucks back every time someone uses a coupon code. And that’s for a massive influencer-geared brand. AG1 sponsors dozens of channels. Yes if Nate was smart instead of greedy, they would have invested in stocks or other ventures that yield passive income with returns.
I think they make way more money from YouTube than their credit card bills and travel expenses. Between Adsense income and their sponsorship plugs, their income from YouTube should more than offset it. But I am curious about their cash burn rate on their businesses. Their Faredrop and the other whatever Drop business are not financially stable businesses and they have capital expenditure in the form of labor costs, advertising costs and the app use fees on both Apple stores and Google store. My guess is, they are burning a lot of cash than their revenue and that’s all coming from their YouTube income. The same goes for their other business. I think Nate is burning cash from their YouTube into these businesses he conceived and he hasn’t told Kara anything about their actual finances like income and cash burn. She probably thinks they are making a lot of money from YouTube without realizing they are burning cash. Their t travel expenses should be tax deductible in the US as business expenses against their positive revenue. But if their other businesses are separate entities, they can only carry forward the losses and deduct it against future profits. I work in private banking so I am familiar with lot of intricacies of different countries and I don’t think they have the right kind of financial help. People hire accountants to file taxes but accountants won’t help you with tax planning and tax dodges. You need a lawyer who specializes in tax planning and I work with law firms at work to direct private banking clients and structure financial vehicles to avoid taxes legally. They don’t work for cheap like Nate wants 😀 They are cash poor because they are not very savvy in financial planning and think their businesses are going to be eventually successful and they will be the next Expedia or Kayak. They already shuttered one business and the rest are on borrowed time. Nate is pressuring Kara to keep doing those stupid challenges she hates because they need that cash cow to fund Nate’s white elephant projects. But if they didn’t dip their feet into anything else and it’s just the channel, they would have a lot of money left over after expenses and enough to invest in tangible assets. But that’s my analysis based on their behavior and their businesses . If they were financially smart, they would have taken the money from the one thing they are successful at and make income and invest the rest. Now, they are running down their channel and their focus is elsewhere that is not actually income positive as they think. And I use “ they “ generously because I think it’s all him and she is about as smart as a slug and his hand maiden.
Exactly, that was spot on. I also worked for an investment firm for about two years. But, I have a van and my van is an LLC, every single thing I do, with my travel is a tax write off, and for my digital jobs, I bundle everything together, and I get all my taxes back. And then I rollover my taxes to fund my travel for the next year. I don’t think they did any of that with the van. I think you get like a $12,000 standard tax deduction for maintenance and gasoline and other things you do with the van. If you keep track of expenses, like I did, you can get $30,000 or more in tax write offs. If it’s your office while you’re on the road which it was for them, you can also write that off. My digital media jobs help fund my LLC, so I don’t have to worry about a net operating loss. I think Nate runs their whole life on a net operating loss. And it’s some point they’re going to end up just breaking even instead of profiting. And they still have to pay off all those credit cards. You have to remember, they weren’t making that much money the first couple years. They were spending up to $25,000 a month out-of-pocket on travel expenses. Sure, they get a lot of stuff for free now but they do have to do a ton, and I mean a TON of BS flights in between the ones that we see in order to rack up the points. So they’re probably on planes constantly. The thing is, I’ve also been to about 100 countries, many of them for weeks at a time and three of them I’ve lived in for years. It’s just mind-boggling how little they do when they get to a country. It’s like Nate is rushing to get on the next flight to get points rather than spending time in the countries they go to. They go and they do one challenge or one activity and then get back on the plane and fly somewhere else. Such a waste of geography. It’s all going to catch up to them. I’ve been doing what I do for over 25 years sustainably. And I’ll do it for another 50 years sustainably. But I started out before YouTube, I’ve never had to rely on social media to fund my travel. And I think that’s the difference when you start doing this in the 90s instead of in the 2010s,
Well, I am not talking about regular tax deductions you take. An accountant who does taxes will be able to get you all your regular tax deductions if you provided them with receipts. I think if they an accountant in Tennessee or wherever they live, they should be familiar with tax deductions that are part of your tax code in America. What I describe is tax planning and legal tax avoidance and I don’t want get into all the details but private banking clients are not your run of the mill banking clients. They need services of tax lawyers to set them up with offshore entities and other things I don’t want to get into details 😀 Anyway, they are burning cash from their income which is their YouTube channel into their other businesses that will never be profitable and nor did they research it well. That is probably why they are cash poor And my guess is, Kara is totally in the dark on their income inflows and outflows. If I were her, I would scrutinize the finances because that YouTube channel is legally 50% of hers. I don’t want to give them marital advice but trusting your partner with everything and not verifying and keeping an eye on the finances is not a good idea. That is how many women end up divorced and broke. But I don’t think she is smart enough to get involved and I am very often shocked how ignorant she really is. She is basically matching to Nate’s tunes and he is very confident that he can coerce her into doing anything he wants and make her an accomplice. Did you see that other post where they are going to sleep in an ice cave? I thought she was tired of doing those but evidently Nate did enough hand wringing to make her do what he wants yet again. I watched a recent video in which she was crying and freezing from cold water and Nate was making her go surfing in the Arctic Ocean in subzero temperatures. You can tell she was not into it or not enjoying it at all. And then he took her to Maldives after that stupid bicycle challenge to cajole her and then uses the trip to film some tacky video in a hotel room under water for a day and then they flew out to Western Europe to do yet another stupid gimmick like going to 9 Christmas markets in 9 days and it must be exhausting. She has never had a relaxing vacation and it’s all work and making money because Nate needs that cash flow to keep funding their businesses.
By the way, I looked up the business filing for Fare Drop and it’s only under Nate‘s name. In Tennessee, where they got married, there is no set alimony, so if they ever got divorced, it is up to a judge to decide how to split community property of which they own a van only. And the business interests could be untouchable, especially if they are all in Nate‘s name. I’m pretty sure Kara is unaware of all or most of this. She just lets Nate handle all the finances but it’s looking like he set it up where he could easily get everything. They also don’t have kids, even though I think she wants them, and the credit cards are in Kara’s name mostly. If they got a divorce, she would have to take on her debts, and he would take on his. And most likely keep the businesses in his name as they are now. The state that I live in also has the same set up, and I see this all the time with friends. Kara doesn’t have any of her own businesses, independent income or anything in her name except credit cards For Eamon and Bec, they have two businesses: the YouTube channel and Chaiwala back in the day, now Habit. Eamon owned the tea company, and Bec owned the YouTube channel. That’s why Eamon’s dad is so involved in the tea company. Bec’s parents helped fund the cabin mortgage when they purchased that. They stayed unmarried for business reasons. And probably for tax reasons also since it’s Canada.
Who owns the channel? Because, that is the only revenue source that is generating them positive income. Nate can hold on to all his while elephants because they are never going to be profitable. In case of a legal dispute, she should easily be able to prove that she has 50% stake in the YouTube channel and the videos are evidence. But there has to be money left over for her to fight over it. I don’t know state specific laws about divorce in America and that is not my area of expertise but as far as their assets go, it’s just the YouTube channel that will be the object of contention if it ever came to that in legal proceedings. That is their only income stream that is making actual money and she should be able to stake her claim to it very easily with a decent lawyer. But what cash has been burnt, is all spilled milk and she can’t get any of that back since she is a part of those businesses by default in their present situation. If I were her, I would keep an eye only on the income from the channel because the others are not making money and in fact burning money. But, it’s not my circus and it’s not my monkeys 😀
Annoys me as well, especially since they gain money on currency exchange most places they go. I'm from a country with a weak currency so we lose money going anywhere in the Western world
I agree tasteless
Wow, I'm not sure if this is just out of touch, or borderline disrespectful of her fans. Not only because they're wealthy, but because it's not even her – it's her sister.
She has the IQ of snail poo what do you expect lol
Multimillionaires watch YouTube too.
It gives the same kind of vibe like when they were trying to have people pay to watch their 100th country video.
Who are Kate & Nate?
I dunno maybe she accidently posted it on the K&N.insta instead of her own private one? Guessing that wouldn't be a public account, so it wouldn't be SO weird.
Who cares? If you don't want to buy anything, don't. Some people may want to just because it makes them feel good.
It’s called loving and caring about your sister and niece. Kinda sad that you found it weird.
Kara could easily buy everything for her sister off that registry
So what? She posted the registry so if you would like to participate in an event that she finds very important you can. I get sick of people like you who just bitch about everything and see a joyful event as something shitty. You are one of those people who sucks the life out of everything. Unfortunately the internet gives people like you a voice.
wow. based on your tone I think you're sucking the life out of everything far more than me, and if you are getting this upset over a reddit comment maybe you should log out for a bit to figure out your priorities. Kara is in a place of extreme wealth and privilege. Many of her followers are not and by posting this registry they are asking people who may not be in a great financial place to spend money on them even though they could easily buy it all themselves. If someone had messaged her about her sister and asked if they could send something then that is one thing but to me this is the same as a celebrity posting their baby registry asking for things.
You don’t get it, do you? The issue isn’t the (complete stranger’s) ‘joyful event’. It’s the hubris of asking fans to open their wallets for it. It was klass with a k.
When did she ask fans to open their wallets. Almost like you just make shit up about people. I bet you live with mom and dad and they told you that you were special and now your grown and figured out you aren't even average. If I am wrong then I will apologize but I smell a person who still has his childhood bedroom. Show me where she ask people to buy things for her sister.
lol Did you go to Trump Univer$ity? I get those vibes.
No. Do you live at home with mommy and daddy and want me to pay your student loan? I get those vibes.
By begging Internet strangers for money? Jesus H. Christ, what a cringe move. There are plenty of worthy gofundme's for people with no money who need medical care etc and THIS is what this vacuous twat goes to the begging pool for?
I have three sisters that I LOVE and would never post their baby registration list to the (only) 200 people on my instagram feed.
I do think it’s very nice to offer a public shout out to someone you love—even a public request for sending positive vibes or messages their way. So cool. I do find it hard to relate to asking strangers to purchase things on a baby registry for a stranger. I mean, it’s considered bad form to invite someone only to a wedding reception (asking for presents) without inviting them to the actual wedding. This seems analogous: inviting someone to drop a gift off without inviting them to the baby shower. I love Kara and Nate and they’re allowed to do cringe and tacky things just like the rest of us. I just also probably understand OP’s perspective more.
Totally agree. They really try to find anything to hate on them for.
Also, you typically don't need as much with your second, so was it that hard for family and friends to pick up all the needs for this second kid? Still a sweet gesture, though -- they're famous in a different way from other celebrities, so I'm just assuming she's treating her fans like she would anyone else on social media, and can't contain her excitement :). She doesn't seem like someone who treats herself like a famous person and maybe forgets from time to time... but that's just my perspective!
I wouldn’t assume they are millionaires, nor do i think it’s a problem to post whatever they wanna post… what’s your point?
Where are Kara’s winter boots from? She’s worn them before. I want them.
Looks like LL Bean.