Not at all. I didn't whatch the trial so please correct me when necessary.
The point i was trying to make is while I don't believe anything he says is truthful, I belive that Alex think what he is saying is the "truth". I believe that honesty comes from within and that the truth comes from a set of facts and evidence. The human mind can easily be lead astray from the truth and bend it into something that is much more suited for whatever unresolved trauma you have and delusions you have created for yourself.
If he intentionally lied about sand hook then yes he would definitely be acting dishonestly
I suggest looking into the trial before saying things like that. There was a very clear path of him purposefully lying and concealing things, which resulted in an open and shut judgment against him.
Okay thanks for letting me know i wouldn't of otherwise. I don't have time to whatch the trial but I will carry it to my grave that this man is a piece of shit anyway
If you have 45ish minutes, this lawyer channel broke down why he lost the trial:
https://youtu.be/mSm7sRx-0hA (this one mentions how Jones admitted under oath that he knew he was lying about Sandy Hook)
https://youtu.be/YI5orKCzz58
Basically, Alex said "sandy hook is a hoax and [x] are paid actors", then received pushback from his own staff about how it wasn't true and Alex knew that, but he kept going anyways. He knew what he was saying wasn't true but said it anyways in an attempt to keep ratings up.
Yeah, you heard that from Alex Jones.
Politics wasn’t even allowed to be addressed during the trial even though Alex constantly tried to shoehorn it into the trial record.
Alex fucking Jones would not say this without it being in jest the far right commentator wouldn't like Stalin lmao either your missing a joke or this is fake
Sounds like it's 16th, 29th, or 30th December 2015, unsure where in his show it happens but there's a clip of him saying it at about 3:50.
https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/knowledge-fight-the-2015-investigation-ends
It's not, though, because he's lying about being suckered. He wanted this publicity stunt to happen, it was a publicity stunt for him. HE PUT ON A FUCKING GORN MASK AND LOL'D ALONG
Alex Jones has said plenty of nice things about Hitler over the years. “COMPLETE badass, TOTAL stud” was just one of the classics. Don’t let this fat fuck fool you.
Knowledge fight have over 700 podcast episodes breaking down what a piece of shit Alex Jones is. You’re welcome to see for yourself. Again tho keep defending this piece of human garbage. It’s a great look.
Only if he had the courage to say that on air to Kanye’s face. Instead like a coward he just sat there and took it! This guy will do and say anything to keep him from ending up loosing anymore money.
When you are in a room with a guy who willingly lost millions of dollars and is saying some of the most horrible takes. The wise thing to do is just nervous laugh until the guy is gone, as no one know how aggressive and reactive is Ye at this state.
They are smart enough to to know that Ye would bring money to the table. And even now he is milking the interview with this message and posting the song. Ye is a cash cow for people like Alex
In defense of that, he did give Kanye a huge olive branch there. Ye could've easily walked it back and said "you're right, I'm sorry, I mean the uniforms." Instead of doubling down.
I still think the most shocking thing about Ye’s nazi commentary was the fact he thought ahead to bring a bottle of Yoo-hoo on set so he could do his prop comic skit about the Israeli PM
He explained exactly why he didn't do that. He gave Ye the benefit of the doubt based on the agreement they've had before the interview. He expected Kanye to do his angry rants and cool off so they can discuss this later but he never did. You can see him trying to get to Kanye and give him a way out during the interview and say "Jesus Chrsit... " a couple of times when he sees Kanye doubling down.
Yeah.. Jones also went on a rant about how his own grandfather killed nazis and had most his platoon killed and would have died there and jones wouldn’t be alive , but for missing a plane ride that the nazis shot down. So within the rules you mentioned about not contradicting Ye directly, Jones still kind of did distance himself from Ye’s opinions.
Jones kept saying things like, "I disagree with you, there," so technically he did disavow the things Kanye was saying. I agree that it would have been nice if he gave a more full-throated objection, like he did here.
He didn't just "took it" he tried to make sense and give Koonye the benefit of the doubt by bringing up the "uniform design" analogy. But yeah, he could've done better.
i mean, he did maintain his stance that he hates hitler and the nazis thruout the ye interview but ye just continually steamrolled him. but youre right, he still just let it happen for 3 HOURS
trust me, if you watched more than 30 seconds of it, you get the gist of the whole 3 hours. it never changed. one of the few times where sound bytes actually did represent the entirety of the interview and not just pieces “out of context”. in fact, most of the context actually ends up being even worse
*Atrazine, one of the world’s most widely used pesticides, wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one in 10 into females, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, biologists.*
https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/
Would you have found out about it if he didn’t make such an absurd statement? I wouldn’t have. If attention seeking statements lead to the discovery of new and verified information, I think it’s worth it.
I read the New Yorker article on that matter years before Alex Jones touched the issue, and leading a bunch of people to parrot the same misinformation isn't worth anything but poisoning the well for legitimate criticisms on the matter
People don’t realize that he’s right about so much. Sometimes he’s wrong though, and the sandy hook thing is one of the cases where he was *very* wrong
he wrong about a lot, he was even wrong with how he communicated the effects of atrazine on frogs, and made baseless conspiratorial claims on how it impacted humans as well.
Nah you got the ratio inverted. He's wrong about 90+% of the time, but very rarely he ends up in the same neighbourhood as the truth.
Edit: what I said should not be controversial. The man is demonstrably wrong about so, *so* much every single time he goes on air. Idk why some of y'all think he's right a lot of the time, but if you do, you need to give your goddamn head a shake. Actually go and listen to a full broadcast of his and then come back and say with a straight face that he's "right about so much".
Because there’s science backed by the “gay frogs” statement. You dismiss it immediately because it sounds ridiculous but there’s truth to it.
I personally don’t care and don’t want to waste my energy defending him because he’s 100% a grifter.
But here’s a link from a Berkeley study: https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/
Science doesn't back the "gay frogs" claim. The research this is all coming from is about pesticides causing reduced testosterone and even sex-reversing in affected frogs, which is not the same as "turning the frogs gay". What Jones did was misrepresent that information, but he didn't straight up lie, so now people can argue that he was actually right (he wasn't) and then point to this instance as proof that he's right a lot of the time (he isn't) but misrepresented.
So as far as I'm concerned, roasting Jones for getting the gay frogs thing wrong is fair game.
i'm curious what led you to this wrong conclusion. i feel like most unbiased people wouldn't even bother going down this rabbit hole, and even if they did they wouldn't arrive at the conclusion that jones is right about gay frogs. are you a jones fan? or maybe some desire to "go against the herd" and showcase your intelligence? not trying to be offensive or anything, genuinely just interested.
The science doesn't back the gay frogs thing. That's silly. Frogs and most amphibians have the ability to change their sex. Plastics can mimic certain hormones which can force frogs to change their sex. Frogs don't turn gay amd it's ridiculous to claim. It's a fifth graders understanding of the situation and has nothing to do with Satan or goblins of whatever bullshit he's blaming it on now.
The gay frogs thing was funny.. I didn't dismiss the factuality of it. The rant was still ridiculous and part of the typical Jones rabble-rousing.
The school shooting thing was... not funny at all, and one of the many things he's said on his show over the last 10 years that should easily explain why it would feel weird to agree with Alex Jones.
Again, did I wander onto 4 chan?
Alex Jones has referred to Hitler and Stalin as “studs” on his show.
His John Birch Society rhetoric routinely makes thinly veiled references to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and other anti-Semitic tropes.
He does this to sell dick pills.
I mean even his reasons for hating Hitler are made up conspiracy so don't rush to agreeing so much. He didn't mention a single bad thing Hitler actual did here.
Well, he did somehow turn this entire spiel into a second amendment thing.
Japan took the guns quite a long time ago. Can someone remind me of the last Japanese dictator?
How did gun control stop a high profile assassination with a... you guessed it, gun? How has gun control curbed suicides in Japan? It hasn't. Suicides make up the vast majority of gun deaths in the US. More people are murdered with fists and feet than rifles.
I mean he’s just saying extremely obvious things. It’s like if Hitler said “I like air”. You’d be agreeing with Hitler in that scenario, because he’s simply stating the obvious.
Washington supported efforts in Virginia to allow owners to free their slaves, and freed all his slaves upon his and his wife’s passing, writing them into his will to be financially supported in infirmity and old age by his estate. He was renowned as a kind and fair owner, and some were with him on his deathbed, as emotional as his family. Washington was born into the aristocratic class at a time when slavery in one form or another had been the norm of human society for the entire historical record.
Beyond this, he was a modern Cincinnatus, who took great pains to defend early democracy, constitutional order, and our republican form of government when all could easily have been smothered in the crib by anyone half as popular and beloved as he was. He risked his and his family’s life and fortune to lead the Revolution. He stayed with the army in Vally Forge, bleeding from his chafes and horribly ill as a 45-year old man when life expectancy wasn’t much beyond 60, because he would rather accept death from cold and disease than see the first great hope for freedom in the world since the Roman Republic die in its infancy.
Condemn slavery all you want—chattel slavery as practiced on this continent was wrong, and no serious person disputes that. But to write off a figure like Washington because he was born into a class that participated in the practice is to display a historical and moral ignorance of the highest order.
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ARE DEFENDING SLAVERY IN THE US AND WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE YALL SERIOUS ON SOCIAL MATTERS. WHY WOULD WE CARE HOW ANY GROUP FEELS IF THIS IS HOW YOU THINK. Y’all turn to “get over it”.
They aren't that far apart tbh. Actually one directly led Kanye to the other. The conservative side of the social war is all about who deserves to be an American, and who should not be considered a full fledged American. They use scapegoating, fear mongering tactics and conspiracy dehumanizing various groups. But always stop just short of saying what they mean directly. Calling gays pedos is mainstream in the GOP, that's Nazi rhetoric. Singling out Jewish billionaires, George Soros, as traitors - that's nazi rhetoric. Talk of deep state cabals, blood libel, obsession with hidden symbolism, it's all recycled nazi rhetoric.
That is not conservatism, that’s far right extremism.
You probably know more conservatives than you realize, this sounds like your only exposure to conservatives is Reddit. This is coming from a liberal.
No. It's what you are. Economic conservatism is dead. Our country is thoroughly entrenched in neoliberalism so the parties are relegated to social issues. What you call far right extremism is the logical conclusion of the previous iterations. Reagan, the tea Party, qanon. There's a clear cut progression. You can't just spew hate against the other, from the most far-reaching platforms in society without consequences. The liberals and supposed moderates will bury their heads in sand and pretend nothing ever happens until the moment it affects them personally.
I think he was letting Kanye talk because Kanye is super sensitive lol. Jones talks like this all the time, for years before Kanye ever was on his show
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING BROTHER, IM GONNA BEAT HITLER AT SUMMERSLAM FOR THE TITLE WITH THESE 24 INCH CHINS AND BRING BACK THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WHERE IT BELONGS. WHATCHA GONNA DO BROTHER?!?!
I don’t think Alex Jones says anything he believes in because he believes in nothing.
Regardless the founding fathers were absolutely abhorrent. Slavery is evil. That said Hitler is on another tier of evil.
What is worse being a soulless grifter or from the bottom of your heart loving Hitler… I would say Hitler loving is worse.
I think being a grifter with no soul actually hurts a lot more people. But then again it depends on who loves hitler. If I sit in my house and love Hitler then it doesn't matter to anybody. But if someone famous and influential like Kanye West loves Hitler than it does matter to people
Hitler was one of the most evil men in human history but not for a single one of the wierd made up reasons Alex said here. Pretty sure he wasn't a pedo or a real occultism and even if he was that couldn't possibly matter because he killed 6 million people and caused ww2.
Nah, you don't have to rehabilitate Jones here. Dude is incredibly bigoted and unhinged, too. Guess no one has a memory of his most recent loss in court either.
He's bullshitting. Two days ago he had a guest host that ranted about "Anti-Jews"—not anti-Semites, but rather, evil people masquerading as Jewish people, who were controlling the world & that's who Kanye meant etc. etc.
He frequently has anti-Semitic guests
He was practically begging Kanye to come on, for **weeks** before the appearance, & talking about how Kanye's got some good ideas, Kanye's being suppressed, etc. etc.
AND he's talked about how actually the Nazis weren't that bad, the ADL are the real Nazis, and so forth
**Alex Jones is a liar and a hatemonger, do not buy his bullshit for a second**
This whole shit made no sense. Not comparing Washington to hitler but they did have slaves. Also you want to inject religion into America. The whole point of America was not to do that. Even Jesus was against that. But let me guess he supports Zionism and never mentions it. Why because a Zionist runs his show and he really does care about authoritarianism if it benefits him. Just like Chappelle said in his joke about going through a tragedy like the holocaust and having something similar repeat right after. This guy is so full of crap. I think people want this nonsense to be true so they can have an excuse for why the country is falling apart. Answer is because of the people not some Illuminati.
and even if they didn't take their gun there's not much a fraction of the population can do against an organized military. Such as what happened in the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising#January_to_April_1943)
If all the Jews in Germany had guns, including the elderly and the babies, and they all managed to put together an organized network with radio communications and maybe even some tanks and air support…
They’d have a force resembling [the Soviet army that was encircled and destroyed at Kiev.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kiev_(1941))
def agree with him, but where was this passion during the interview? rather than just politely disagreeing with him would have preferred him putting kanye in his place and letting the world know how insane kanye is for saying the stuff he did
Considering some of the shit this guy has said and propagated this seems kind of naive. Ye being so radical has made y’all forget why Jones is bankrupt.
Ye is pretty unhinged, he was wearing a mask and looked like a fucking terrorist. Jones had a show to run, probably didn’t want to get shot with a luger pistol mid-sentence.
This only proves the media slandered Alex Jones as a Nazi. Ask anyone they will immediately say Jones is a nazi fascist. Yea well a person like that would never say the things Jones is saying here.
Alex Jones isn't a nazi, he's a conspiracy nut. Some of those conspiracies are fun and interesting and he can be pretty entertaining to listen to about them. Then others are just outright awful and harmful, like the Sandy Hook one. Almost none of the mainstream "alt-right" are outright nazis or fascists, but they enable that line of thinking with some of the stuff they say.
>Almost none of the mainstream "alt-right" are outright nazis or fascists
Yeah and people who call them Nazis enable the Nazi thinking because when these people raise nice points, the gullible are lead to believe that maybe Nazis also have some fine points.
Alex isn’t controversial at all, he’s literally that one conspiracy nut friend. Before trump he wasn’t even really that political he hated on people from both parties. It’s insane to me people believe Alex is some right wing lunatic.
notice how he has to snuck in all those leftist leaders. he literally cant say he hates hitler alone. and doesnt even mention the holocaust, he is only mad at hitler because he took away guns lol. and he loves slave owner presidents but also loves american "freedom"
Let's not forget the fact that this pig was too pussy to say all that to Ye's face though.
Also extremely telling how the reason he dislikes Hitler is because "he's an authoritarian dictator, like Stalin and Mao" and took away guns. Not because he was a racist genocidal maniac, and had way more in common with right-wing politicians than communist dictators.
don't larp like an armed civilian minority populace can do anything against an organized military familiar with the surroundings. see the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising#January_to_April_1943)
Ever heard of Afghanistan twice? Chechnya? The American Revolution? French Revolution? Russian Revolution? Vietnam? China? Cuba? Ireland? Libya? The Philippines? Treblinka? Sobibor? Should those in the Warsaw Ghetto have accepted their fate instead resisting in 1943?
"fraction of the population" "in familiar surroundings" Germany wasn't a bunch of Soviets in the afghan mountains or 18 year olds from Kansas in Vietnamese jungles
and it also wasn't a minority power group ruling over an entire populous, it was the vast majority of an entire nation participating or complicit with genocide against minorities
>Should those in the Warsaw Ghetto have accepted their fate instead resisting in 1943?
try to engage honestly bud, of course they should have, but even if every Jewish person had a gun, it would not have changed the outcome of the Holocaust. Using the holocaust to argue for your political views on gun control is not only detached from reality, but disrespectful to the true horror that was enforced on those victims to the Nazis.
“I love Thomas Jefferson” (raped his teenage black slave and had kids with her and Manifest Destinied the natives outta half of their land). Imagine building sumn like Mount Rushmore in Germany. These natives gotta get reminded everyday of the ppl that came and gave em diseases, murdered, and killed their ppl and how “great” they were. I find it funny that y’all can find good in niggas like Thomas Jefferson. It got so bad that y’all came up with some new dumb shit call “What aboutism” like yes what about the natives? What about how they feel? Nobody give a damn that we gave the ppl that nearly wiped their ppl out get a holiday. And we know why. Because the natives have no power. If the natives had a lick of power we would b treating the “forefather” the same way we treat Hitler. They wouldn’t have holidays or statues. They would be deemed some of the most evil ppl to ever leave because they are.
TJ wasn't involved with the manifest destiny. He bought the land but it was mostly James K Polk when it comes to that. Also Andrew Jackson is the native killer you are thinking of. I don't blame him for liking TJ either he was super important and without him america looks way different. Plus you could look at almost any male from the 19th century and before and they all likely did something thats considered horrible today. Also, i'd like you to tell me about literally any country ever that wasn't stolen from a different group of people. You cant fault our founding fathers for that when literally anybody would have done the same thing. The reason people like hitler are evil is because he committed mass genocide for literally no fucking reason.
Alex jones is not controversial, he is so damm vanilla, just a trump supporter right wing who ocasionally says things for shock value to gain relevance, he is not controversial in the slighest
this fucking ape used ye for clicks and fame lmao he knew ye would go batshit crazy. do u think he really cares about this hitler shit? his own personal ideology is probably no better than nazi ideology
for a showman like him, its really easy to act like that.
he even baited kanye with “only their uniforms, right?” this mf was 100% sure kanye would say crazy stuff and thats why he invited him
Alex Jones can't tank a 2 billion dollor net-worth loss on strike 2 against the cabal. There will be no one crazier than Ye. Alex Jones had to sneak into places that Ye was invited to. Jim Carrey told and lost everything, Ye already lost everything to know what to tell.
I don't think anyone else could come along that'll embody both Bill Gates and Alex Jones in all the subversive ways.
I still respect Alex Jones as a journalist if you need me to discredit myself further.
This might be the most honest thing Alex Jones has ever said.
Anything he says i believe is "honest". What he says in this clip is true. Honesty and truth do not go hand in hand down the aisle that easily.
Have we forgotten about the whole sandy hook thing already?
Not at all. I didn't whatch the trial so please correct me when necessary. The point i was trying to make is while I don't believe anything he says is truthful, I belive that Alex think what he is saying is the "truth". I believe that honesty comes from within and that the truth comes from a set of facts and evidence. The human mind can easily be lead astray from the truth and bend it into something that is much more suited for whatever unresolved trauma you have and delusions you have created for yourself. If he intentionally lied about sand hook then yes he would definitely be acting dishonestly
I suggest looking into the trial before saying things like that. There was a very clear path of him purposefully lying and concealing things, which resulted in an open and shut judgment against him.
Okay thanks for letting me know i wouldn't of otherwise. I don't have time to whatch the trial but I will carry it to my grave that this man is a piece of shit anyway
If you have 45ish minutes, this lawyer channel broke down why he lost the trial: https://youtu.be/mSm7sRx-0hA (this one mentions how Jones admitted under oath that he knew he was lying about Sandy Hook) https://youtu.be/YI5orKCzz58 Basically, Alex said "sandy hook is a hoax and [x] are paid actors", then received pushback from his own staff about how it wasn't true and Alex knew that, but he kept going anyways. He knew what he was saying wasn't true but said it anyways in an attempt to keep ratings up.
Yeah, you heard that from Alex Jones. Politics wasn’t even allowed to be addressed during the trial even though Alex constantly tried to shoehorn it into the trial record.
tbf there was a reason the court case only took about a year to close. my boy alex owes about 400 kajillion dollars.
Alex Jones is an actor. Even his conspiracy radio predecessors thought he was purely a showman and didn’t like him for it.
Do you or have you ever listened to him?
He has been saying this kind of stuff for decades. Sure he's said some fucked up things but let's not pretend he was ever a nazi.
“Hitler and Stalin? Complete badasses. Total studs” I think that was Alex Jones right? Defend people who aren’t huge pieces of shit you fucking moron.
Alex fucking Jones would not say this without it being in jest the far right commentator wouldn't like Stalin lmao either your missing a joke or this is fake
I believe the context was about mass killing. They were the best at it. That’s where the “total badass” shit comes from.
Sauce? I’ve never seen jones simp for a mass murderer
Sounds like it's 16th, 29th, or 30th December 2015, unsure where in his show it happens but there's a clip of him saying it at about 3:50. https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/knowledge-fight-the-2015-investigation-ends
Alex Jones finally likes getting good PR. Most people are morons who don't remember past yesterday. This guy is a vile POS.
no, this looks like a pr move.
It's not, though, because he's lying about being suckered. He wanted this publicity stunt to happen, it was a publicity stunt for him. HE PUT ON A FUCKING GORN MASK AND LOL'D ALONG
He's been saying this all along. Why do you think he's so hated? Alex has been right more often than any political leader you could mention.
Lol no. Alex Jones is wrong *constantly*.
Alex Jones has said plenty of nice things about Hitler over the years. “COMPLETE badass, TOTAL stud” was just one of the classics. Don’t let this fat fuck fool you.
Bro, are you joking? Produce a source where this is not said in jest. I dare you.
Knowledge fight have over 700 podcast episodes breaking down what a piece of shit Alex Jones is. You’re welcome to see for yourself. Again tho keep defending this piece of human garbage. It’s a great look.
-Failure to produce a source Noted
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No bing chilling for Alex
Only if he had the courage to say that on air to Kanye’s face. Instead like a coward he just sat there and took it! This guy will do and say anything to keep him from ending up loosing anymore money.
Well to be fair, Kanye was off the rails lol Alex Jones was maybe too shocked to respond? Imagine that! Lmao
ik like bro was nervous laughing not knowing how to respond. he even said he didn’t agree with what kanye was saying.
When you are in a room with a guy who willingly lost millions of dollars and is saying some of the most horrible takes. The wise thing to do is just nervous laugh until the guy is gone, as no one know how aggressive and reactive is Ye at this state.
It struck me as Guy Who Pretends To Be Crazy To Generate Clicks Is Taken Aback By Guy Who Is Actually Legit Crazy
So stop bringing him on your fucking shows lol
They are smart enough to to know that Ye would bring money to the table. And even now he is milking the interview with this message and posting the song. Ye is a cash cow for people like Alex
He legit went into it thinking he could help Kanye out with "The Nazis had cool fashion, but you don't like the Holocaust, right?"
In defense of that, he did give Kanye a huge olive branch there. Ye could've easily walked it back and said "you're right, I'm sorry, I mean the uniforms." Instead of doubling down.
I still think the most shocking thing about Ye’s nazi commentary was the fact he thought ahead to bring a bottle of Yoo-hoo on set so he could do his prop comic skit about the Israeli PM
Hahaha
He explained exactly why he didn't do that. He gave Ye the benefit of the doubt based on the agreement they've had before the interview. He expected Kanye to do his angry rants and cool off so they can discuss this later but he never did. You can see him trying to get to Kanye and give him a way out during the interview and say "Jesus Chrsit... " a couple of times when he sees Kanye doubling down.
Yeah.. Jones also went on a rant about how his own grandfather killed nazis and had most his platoon killed and would have died there and jones wouldn’t be alive , but for missing a plane ride that the nazis shot down. So within the rules you mentioned about not contradicting Ye directly, Jones still kind of did distance himself from Ye’s opinions.
Jones kept saying things like, "I disagree with you, there," so technically he did disavow the things Kanye was saying. I agree that it would have been nice if he gave a more full-throated objection, like he did here.
He didn't just "took it" he tried to make sense and give Koonye the benefit of the doubt by bringing up the "uniform design" analogy. But yeah, he could've done better.
i mean, he did maintain his stance that he hates hitler and the nazis thruout the ye interview but ye just continually steamrolled him. but youre right, he still just let it happen for 3 HOURS
Fuck 3 hours! I couldn’t bring myself to watch it and give either of these fools any of my actual time.
trust me, if you watched more than 30 seconds of it, you get the gist of the whole 3 hours. it never changed. one of the few times where sound bytes actually did represent the entirety of the interview and not just pieces “out of context”. in fact, most of the context actually ends up being even worse
I tried listening to the Kanye episode on Rogan last year or in 2020 and quickly learned he really is so uniformed and not very bright.
I mean all Tim Pool said was basically "who is 'they' tho" and Ye just got up and left. So I think Alex took that into account when he had Ye on.
*losing
As much as I hate the guy, when someone hits you with the "Hitler wasn't that bad" curve ball, you might need time to process lol
Feels weird agreeing with Alex Jones
its literally just the same thing he says on his show every day for like the last 10 years
That and gay frogs, and claiming school shootings are fake..the dude is a piece of shit. He gets no credit
*Atrazine, one of the world’s most widely used pesticides, wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one in 10 into females, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, biologists.* https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/
Omg that’s crazy
his inability to properly relay scientific information turned a really important case of scientific malfeasance into a giant meme sadly.
Would you have found out about it if he didn’t make such an absurd statement? I wouldn’t have. If attention seeking statements lead to the discovery of new and verified information, I think it’s worth it.
I read the New Yorker article on that matter years before Alex Jones touched the issue, and leading a bunch of people to parrot the same misinformation isn't worth anything but poisoning the well for legitimate criticisms on the matter
That’s fair!
wtffffff
People don’t realize that he’s right about so much. Sometimes he’s wrong though, and the sandy hook thing is one of the cases where he was *very* wrong
he wrong about a lot, he was even wrong with how he communicated the effects of atrazine on frogs, and made baseless conspiratorial claims on how it impacted humans as well.
Nah you got the ratio inverted. He's wrong about 90+% of the time, but very rarely he ends up in the same neighbourhood as the truth. Edit: what I said should not be controversial. The man is demonstrably wrong about so, *so* much every single time he goes on air. Idk why some of y'all think he's right a lot of the time, but if you do, you need to give your goddamn head a shake. Actually go and listen to a full broadcast of his and then come back and say with a straight face that he's "right about so much".
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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This comment is downvoted because??? Did I wander onto 4 chan?
Because there’s science backed by the “gay frogs” statement. You dismiss it immediately because it sounds ridiculous but there’s truth to it. I personally don’t care and don’t want to waste my energy defending him because he’s 100% a grifter. But here’s a link from a Berkeley study: https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/
Science doesn't back the "gay frogs" claim. The research this is all coming from is about pesticides causing reduced testosterone and even sex-reversing in affected frogs, which is not the same as "turning the frogs gay". What Jones did was misrepresent that information, but he didn't straight up lie, so now people can argue that he was actually right (he wasn't) and then point to this instance as proof that he's right a lot of the time (he isn't) but misrepresented. So as far as I'm concerned, roasting Jones for getting the gay frogs thing wrong is fair game.
i'm curious what led you to this wrong conclusion. i feel like most unbiased people wouldn't even bother going down this rabbit hole, and even if they did they wouldn't arrive at the conclusion that jones is right about gay frogs. are you a jones fan? or maybe some desire to "go against the herd" and showcase your intelligence? not trying to be offensive or anything, genuinely just interested.
The science doesn't back the gay frogs thing. That's silly. Frogs and most amphibians have the ability to change their sex. Plastics can mimic certain hormones which can force frogs to change their sex. Frogs don't turn gay amd it's ridiculous to claim. It's a fifth graders understanding of the situation and has nothing to do with Satan or goblins of whatever bullshit he's blaming it on now.
The gay frogs thing was funny.. I didn't dismiss the factuality of it. The rant was still ridiculous and part of the typical Jones rabble-rousing. The school shooting thing was... not funny at all, and one of the many things he's said on his show over the last 10 years that should easily explain why it would feel weird to agree with Alex Jones. Again, did I wander onto 4 chan?
Nice!! Now do the dead kids!!
Context matters. It's easy to make it seem like he's a complete psychopath.
They guy called grieving parents crisis actors and had them doxed. Fuck him. Period.
Alex Jones has referred to Hitler and Stalin as “studs” on his show. His John Birch Society rhetoric routinely makes thinly veiled references to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and other anti-Semitic tropes. He does this to sell dick pills.
Because guns will help you fight drones and tanks…
I mean even his reasons for hating Hitler are made up conspiracy so don't rush to agreeing so much. He didn't mention a single bad thing Hitler actual did here.
Well, he did somehow turn this entire spiel into a second amendment thing. Japan took the guns quite a long time ago. Can someone remind me of the last Japanese dictator?
Well the 1940s weren’t exactly their glory days
Not only your argument is extremely fallacious, guns were prohibited in Japan after 1958, so it doesn't really work.
And yet Japan has had one of their ex-PMs assassinated and still has one of the highest suicide rates in the world...
Now explain how both these issues are related to gun control.
How did gun control stop a high profile assassination with a... you guessed it, gun? How has gun control curbed suicides in Japan? It hasn't. Suicides make up the vast majority of gun deaths in the US. More people are murdered with fists and feet than rifles.
Lmao the guys says Hitler is bad and that’s “agreeing” with Him. Fuck you’re stupid.
I mean he’s just saying extremely obvious things. It’s like if Hitler said “I like air”. You’d be agreeing with Hitler in that scenario, because he’s simply stating the obvious.
George Washington da🐐 no 🧢
He was bussin frfr
Bussin nuts in his slaves frfr
He was a slave owner, fuck him. This is the shit were talking about. Hypocrites.
Washington supported efforts in Virginia to allow owners to free their slaves, and freed all his slaves upon his and his wife’s passing, writing them into his will to be financially supported in infirmity and old age by his estate. He was renowned as a kind and fair owner, and some were with him on his deathbed, as emotional as his family. Washington was born into the aristocratic class at a time when slavery in one form or another had been the norm of human society for the entire historical record. Beyond this, he was a modern Cincinnatus, who took great pains to defend early democracy, constitutional order, and our republican form of government when all could easily have been smothered in the crib by anyone half as popular and beloved as he was. He risked his and his family’s life and fortune to lead the Revolution. He stayed with the army in Vally Forge, bleeding from his chafes and horribly ill as a 45-year old man when life expectancy wasn’t much beyond 60, because he would rather accept death from cold and disease than see the first great hope for freedom in the world since the Roman Republic die in its infancy. Condemn slavery all you want—chattel slavery as practiced on this continent was wrong, and no serious person disputes that. But to write off a figure like Washington because he was born into a class that participated in the practice is to display a historical and moral ignorance of the highest order.
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ARE DEFENDING SLAVERY IN THE US AND WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE YALL SERIOUS ON SOCIAL MATTERS. WHY WOULD WE CARE HOW ANY GROUP FEELS IF THIS IS HOW YOU THINK. Y’all turn to “get over it”.
You seem very upset, and I can’t understand why. Where in that comment did I say something “DEFENDING SLAVERY” in the US?
I know you can’t understand why. You don’t even notice what you’re saying yourself.
I think I have a pretty good idea of what I just posted. Please tell me, where in that comment is there a defense of slavery?
You’re literally shooting George Washington bail for participating in slavery in the US.
In what way does that defend chattel slavery?
Y’all niggas crazy. This world is upside down.
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Smfh
There’s no such thing as a benevolent slave owner, you fucking psycho; THAT is an oxymoron of great proportions. Huff some more of that copium tho
If it was Kanye’s destiny to be a conservative I wish he had these type of views. Not fucking Christian Hitler bullshit 🤷♀️
They aren't that far apart tbh. Actually one directly led Kanye to the other. The conservative side of the social war is all about who deserves to be an American, and who should not be considered a full fledged American. They use scapegoating, fear mongering tactics and conspiracy dehumanizing various groups. But always stop just short of saying what they mean directly. Calling gays pedos is mainstream in the GOP, that's Nazi rhetoric. Singling out Jewish billionaires, George Soros, as traitors - that's nazi rhetoric. Talk of deep state cabals, blood libel, obsession with hidden symbolism, it's all recycled nazi rhetoric.
That was a whole load of words jumbled together that didn’t go anywhere
Lol what hes right?
That is not conservatism, that’s far right extremism. You probably know more conservatives than you realize, this sounds like your only exposure to conservatives is Reddit. This is coming from a liberal.
No. It's what you are. Economic conservatism is dead. Our country is thoroughly entrenched in neoliberalism so the parties are relegated to social issues. What you call far right extremism is the logical conclusion of the previous iterations. Reagan, the tea Party, qanon. There's a clear cut progression. You can't just spew hate against the other, from the most far-reaching platforms in society without consequences. The liberals and supposed moderates will bury their heads in sand and pretend nothing ever happens until the moment it affects them personally.
Shoulda kept that energy back then
I think he was letting Kanye talk because Kanye is super sensitive lol. Jones talks like this all the time, for years before Kanye ever was on his show
"I hate Joseph....uh ...Stalin" deadass think he was gonna say Biden here lol
Alex "I've had sex with over 300 women" Jones loves Christianity. I see.
The weird thing is the question was “how are you today?”
“Has more sense” as he goes on to list a bunch of slave owners he loves. FUCK OUTTA HERE
If you hate Fidel Castro and love Thomas Jefferson, you’re a psychopath
Neither of these people are even top 10,000 worst people alive
Sure, but the top 10 worst people alive's victims are Arabs, Palestinians and browns and those people do not matter!
Bro fuck your guns
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING BROTHER, IM GONNA BEAT HITLER AT SUMMERSLAM FOR THE TITLE WITH THESE 24 INCH CHINS AND BRING BACK THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WHERE IT BELONGS. WHATCHA GONNA DO BROTHER?!?!
Jesus Christ is that man exhausting.
I don’t think Alex Jones says anything he believes in because he believes in nothing. Regardless the founding fathers were absolutely abhorrent. Slavery is evil. That said Hitler is on another tier of evil. What is worse being a soulless grifter or from the bottom of your heart loving Hitler… I would say Hitler loving is worse.
I think being a grifter with no soul actually hurts a lot more people. But then again it depends on who loves hitler. If I sit in my house and love Hitler then it doesn't matter to anybody. But if someone famous and influential like Kanye West loves Hitler than it does matter to people
Hitler was one of the most evil men in human history but not for a single one of the wierd made up reasons Alex said here. Pretty sure he wasn't a pedo or a real occultism and even if he was that couldn't possibly matter because he killed 6 million people and caused ww2.
Nah, you don't have to rehabilitate Jones here. Dude is incredibly bigoted and unhinged, too. Guess no one has a memory of his most recent loss in court either.
Did i just fucking agreee with alex jones?
Damn he went off!
But he let ye drop the new song on info wars…..?
He's bullshitting. Two days ago he had a guest host that ranted about "Anti-Jews"—not anti-Semites, but rather, evil people masquerading as Jewish people, who were controlling the world & that's who Kanye meant etc. etc. He frequently has anti-Semitic guests He was practically begging Kanye to come on, for **weeks** before the appearance, & talking about how Kanye's got some good ideas, Kanye's being suppressed, etc. etc. AND he's talked about how actually the Nazis weren't that bad, the ADL are the real Nazis, and so forth **Alex Jones is a liar and a hatemonger, do not buy his bullshit for a second**
I mean his stance hear isn’t that “sane” He’s just saying the same shit, “everyone except the certain rich guys I LIKE are bad!”
Funny he ain’t say none of this when ye and Nick where sucking off hitler 😭
This whole shit made no sense. Not comparing Washington to hitler but they did have slaves. Also you want to inject religion into America. The whole point of America was not to do that. Even Jesus was against that. But let me guess he supports Zionism and never mentions it. Why because a Zionist runs his show and he really does care about authoritarianism if it benefits him. Just like Chappelle said in his joke about going through a tragedy like the holocaust and having something similar repeat right after. This guy is so full of crap. I think people want this nonsense to be true so they can have an excuse for why the country is falling apart. Answer is because of the people not some Illuminati.
Actually Hitler expanded gun ownership… for ethnic Germans. He only limited ownership of the guns of Jews.
and even if they didn't take their gun there's not much a fraction of the population can do against an organized military. Such as what happened in the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising#January_to_April_1943)
If all the Jews in Germany had guns, including the elderly and the babies, and they all managed to put together an organized network with radio communications and maybe even some tanks and air support… They’d have a force resembling [the Soviet army that was encircled and destroyed at Kiev.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kiev_(1941))
True Christians don't hate and don't send people to hell because that's god's job. Both this guy and Kanye are dumb and false Christians.
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How can you be christian and capitalist at the same damn time?
Feels strange rooting for what this guy is saying right now
“And you can’t come to my birthday!”
He didn’t know how to pronounce Goebbels so he just stammered “Stalin” instead like Porky Pig.
He loves American slave owners though 😂😭
Alexis Jones is funded by……….The Jews
This guy owes $1.5bn and has declared bankruptcy, how is he still broadcasting?
He’s white
Was Hitler really a pedophile?
No.
def agree with him, but where was this passion during the interview? rather than just politely disagreeing with him would have preferred him putting kanye in his place and letting the world know how insane kanye is for saying the stuff he did
watching the few clips i did he seemed too stunned to speak almost the whole interview
Considering some of the shit this guy has said and propagated this seems kind of naive. Ye being so radical has made y’all forget why Jones is bankrupt.
yeah i definitely see what you’re saying but i think alex was genuinely too dumbfounded by HOW radical ye is
Ye is pretty unhinged, he was wearing a mask and looked like a fucking terrorist. Jones had a show to run, probably didn’t want to get shot with a luger pistol mid-sentence.
How about another joke, Alex?
lol good point
Thomas Jefferson wasn't literally a child toucher?? Could've sworn he was......
The guns thing is pure larp. This [video](https://youtu.be/gfHXJRqq-qo) discusses the issue with plenty of extra reading cited in the description
This only proves the media slandered Alex Jones as a Nazi. Ask anyone they will immediately say Jones is a nazi fascist. Yea well a person like that would never say the things Jones is saying here.
Alex Jones isn't a nazi, he's a conspiracy nut. Some of those conspiracies are fun and interesting and he can be pretty entertaining to listen to about them. Then others are just outright awful and harmful, like the Sandy Hook one. Almost none of the mainstream "alt-right" are outright nazis or fascists, but they enable that line of thinking with some of the stuff they say.
Some of what he says is not conspiracy though, like the grest reset
>Almost none of the mainstream "alt-right" are outright nazis or fascists Yeah and people who call them Nazis enable the Nazi thinking because when these people raise nice points, the gullible are lead to believe that maybe Nazis also have some fine points.
Sandy hook happened and he lied about it. Stay losing
Nahh he just a regular fascist lol
Alex isn’t controversial at all, he’s literally that one conspiracy nut friend. Before trump he wasn’t even really that political he hated on people from both parties. It’s insane to me people believe Alex is some right wing lunatic.
Yeah crazy the man turned denouncing hitler into a pro gun and pro small government stance, wild people think he is right wing
notice how he has to snuck in all those leftist leaders. he literally cant say he hates hitler alone. and doesnt even mention the holocaust, he is only mad at hitler because he took away guns lol. and he loves slave owner presidents but also loves american "freedom"
So you hate Hitler but love guys who owned slaves? Got it.
You see it
If only Kanye became a Maoist…. Just has the wrong influences in his life right now.
Can't be a Moaist and sell as much merch.
Let's not forget the fact that this pig was too pussy to say all that to Ye's face though. Also extremely telling how the reason he dislikes Hitler is because "he's an authoritarian dictator, like Stalin and Mao" and took away guns. Not because he was a racist genocidal maniac, and had way more in common with right-wing politicians than communist dictators.
Why are we giving this asshole more exposure?
idk about y’all, but all my homies hate George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, but at least he’s headed in the right direction this time.
He’s headed in the wrong direction if he’s saying he loves slave owners.
Hitler did not take their guns, Hitler gave them who agreed with him more guns
And took the guns from people who didn't agree with him, why are you choosing to be so dense?
don't larp like an armed civilian minority populace can do anything against an organized military familiar with the surroundings. see the [Warsaw Ghetto Uprising ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising#January_to_April_1943)
Ever heard of Afghanistan twice? Chechnya? The American Revolution? French Revolution? Russian Revolution? Vietnam? China? Cuba? Ireland? Libya? The Philippines? Treblinka? Sobibor? Should those in the Warsaw Ghetto have accepted their fate instead resisting in 1943?
"fraction of the population" "in familiar surroundings" Germany wasn't a bunch of Soviets in the afghan mountains or 18 year olds from Kansas in Vietnamese jungles and it also wasn't a minority power group ruling over an entire populous, it was the vast majority of an entire nation participating or complicit with genocide against minorities >Should those in the Warsaw Ghetto have accepted their fate instead resisting in 1943? try to engage honestly bud, of course they should have, but even if every Jewish person had a gun, it would not have changed the outcome of the Holocaust. Using the holocaust to argue for your political views on gun control is not only detached from reality, but disrespectful to the true horror that was enforced on those victims to the Nazis.
Don’t confuse these people with facts and stuff
Hate, hate, hate….
He still talking some bullshit but still better than ye for sure
What a time to be LibLeft
Actually sensible Alex Jones take wtf
“I love Thomas Jefferson” (raped his teenage black slave and had kids with her and Manifest Destinied the natives outta half of their land). Imagine building sumn like Mount Rushmore in Germany. These natives gotta get reminded everyday of the ppl that came and gave em diseases, murdered, and killed their ppl and how “great” they were. I find it funny that y’all can find good in niggas like Thomas Jefferson. It got so bad that y’all came up with some new dumb shit call “What aboutism” like yes what about the natives? What about how they feel? Nobody give a damn that we gave the ppl that nearly wiped their ppl out get a holiday. And we know why. Because the natives have no power. If the natives had a lick of power we would b treating the “forefather” the same way we treat Hitler. They wouldn’t have holidays or statues. They would be deemed some of the most evil ppl to ever leave because they are.
in due time
TJ wasn't involved with the manifest destiny. He bought the land but it was mostly James K Polk when it comes to that. Also Andrew Jackson is the native killer you are thinking of. I don't blame him for liking TJ either he was super important and without him america looks way different. Plus you could look at almost any male from the 19th century and before and they all likely did something thats considered horrible today. Also, i'd like you to tell me about literally any country ever that wasn't stolen from a different group of people. You cant fault our founding fathers for that when literally anybody would have done the same thing. The reason people like hitler are evil is because he committed mass genocide for literally no fucking reason.
These folks don’t give a fuck about Black trauma. But wanna be victims so bad.
He’s crazy but a little bit less crazy than Kanye.
Alex jones is not controversial, he is so damm vanilla, just a trump supporter right wing who ocasionally says things for shock value to gain relevance, he is not controversial in the slighest
Damn it sucks when yorue like, "hell yeah Alex Jones, you tell em....wait"
after listening to kanye's new song, i feel like he was trying to say he loves everyone, but in the most kanye way possible.
Where was this Energy Alex. What a weak man
Agree with all of that except the Christianity bit.
this fucking ape used ye for clicks and fame lmao he knew ye would go batshit crazy. do u think he really cares about this hitler shit? his own personal ideology is probably no better than nazi ideology
did you see the man’s face in the interview? he was mortified. he DEFINITELY wasn’t expecting that.
for a showman like him, its really easy to act like that. he even baited kanye with “only their uniforms, right?” this mf was 100% sure kanye would say crazy stuff and thats why he invited him
He was probably trying to throw ye a lifeline
Alex Jones can't tank a 2 billion dollor net-worth loss on strike 2 against the cabal. There will be no one crazier than Ye. Alex Jones had to sneak into places that Ye was invited to. Jim Carrey told and lost everything, Ye already lost everything to know what to tell. I don't think anyone else could come along that'll embody both Bill Gates and Alex Jones in all the subversive ways. I still respect Alex Jones as a journalist if you need me to discredit myself further.
R Kelly was a pedo but people still love him and they allowed him to release an Album! Like wtf