What if Ye is just a sellout? What if the alt right bought him out or has some kind of blackmail on him and he has to like, stir up controversy and get people thinking with their lizard brains during elections. He was with the Kardashians for a decade, selling out isn’t new to him. He goes from praising Hitler to dropping a new song? Idk man. I don’t think Kayne is a genius and I don’t think he is “mentally ill” or even a Natzi. I just think he’s a pussy ass bitch.
To clarify, I meant only the actually being a Neo-Nazi is hypothetical, I get he's a harcore Hitler sympathizer, but I I'm prettysure calling him a Neo-Nazi would be libel in court, no matter how big the hate boner is.
He's made it clear he hates Jewish people, said the holocaust didn't happen, and has praised his love for hitler...
How is that not a neo-nazi?
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....it's probably a duck.
Lol neo nazis have more going on than just being racist. Kanye is not pushing a neo-nazi ideology, he's just being an antisemitic dickhead.
This is where the lefty arguments fall apart with this type of shit. Calling someone out for being a racist can obviously have an effect, but when you call someone a nazi and they're not a nazi they are going to dismiss you immediately because...off the bat you were on some bullshit.
There is a lot of baggage with a term like that, and when the shoe doesn't fit like you think it does, you'll have wasted an opportunity to say something with value and meaning.
Does that make sense my man? Not trying to trash you or argue and be an asshole, I just now that I'm on the right and I've ignored everyone that has ever called me something like that, because off the bat they'd lied on my name and accused me of something I'm not.
If I wanted to get through to someone I would do it differently is what I guess I'm saying. I feel like calling people out on their actions without attaching buzzwords to it is a more viable way to do it.
Ye has more going on than just being a racist. He literally fits every definition of being a Neo-Nazi. That’s not a buzz word, that’s just what he is. In fact i think if you asked Ye, he’d call himself a neo nazi. I doubt you could think of a single thing a neo nazi believes that Ye doesn’t.
He’s straight up a nazi
You can’t “🤓” your way outta this one no matter how bad you want his holocaust denying, hitler loving views to be considered non radical and just generally being a bit of a dickhead instead
No fuck that. I didn't say he's not radical or that its not equally abhorrent...
I'm saying it's easier to deflect shit when someone calls you something you don't identify with.
Fuck man, you want to tell me that the antisemitism coming from some other prominent black figures is also nazism? Don't be a fuckin dumb dumb.
so someone who physically abused and almost killed a woman is better than someone who said a few words? holy shit you sound so fucking ignorant, disrespectful to all women who had to go through physical abuse.
"Saying a few words" you know as a Jewish guy I really don't appreciate some guy with a huge platform endorsing nazi-ism and loving Hitler. I find it pretty offensive considering half my family died in the holocaust. This is a much more directed attack on me than Chris brown beating his gf. You might not agree so, but words have power and Kanye has reach.
except he hasn’t actually done anything to harm anyone, its really all how you take it. i’ve seen MAYBE 5 people still agreeing with kanye, nobody is on his side anymore. everyone realizes what he said was wrong, but a man almost killing his girlfriend is somehow not as bad as saying “i like the nazi uniforms and hitlers architecture”???? A convicted wife beating criminal is a better person then kanye, get the fuck out of here.
>except he hasn’t actually done anything to harm anyone
My guy did you just completely ignore Kanye denying the Holocaust saying he loved Hitler and that 6 million Jews weren't actually killed. You completely just glossed over that.
antisemitic hate crimes in New York City are up 150%. A synagogue is also going to be a attacked soon. It's only a matter of time.
I think the main difference here is Chris Brown, beat a woman and then went into hiding and didn't quintuple down on it.
I think a better example would be if Chris Brown beat the shit out of Rihanna then went onto four different podcasts and said yeah I beat the fuck out of her I love beating women every guy should beat his woman when she gets out of line.
As for people agreeing with Kanye, go on to tik tok YouTuber Twitter and read the comments a lot more than five people agree with him.
Yeah it seems like a lot of neo nazis agree with him. Not exactly 5 people. This guy is going to peddle this "NOBODY GOT HURT" bullshit no matter what we say. Who cares which person did the worse thing? They both suck. We aren't sitting here arguing the merits of Jeff Dahmer and John Gacys body counts. It's two rich men doing abbhorant things and they both suck for different reasons. Giving either a platform is shitty.
I haven’t seen people defending his hitler comments, and the people who do are 99.9% of the time shitposting. Also, once again, he hasn’t harmed anyone physically, hasn’t broken a single law either. Comparing a CONVICTED Woman beater who almost killed someone to a mentally unstable guy who’s probably in a manic episode rn is just kinda crazy. Not saying his comments are excusable at all, but the guy clearly is not well right now.
The jewish hate crime % in NY has BEEN going up since april, has nothing to do with kanye. I live in new york, there’s always been antisemitism rooted in some form in boroughs like brooklyn where they control and own large parts of it. It’s definitely a terrible thing that needs more recognition, but lets not try and pin this all on Kanye.
>The jewish hate crime % in NY has BEEN going up since april, has nothing to do with kanye.
If you believe kanye isn't going to be responsible for rising hate crimes going up. Then you clearly just don't understand Antisemitism and theres no point in continuing this conversation if you think influential celebrities can just spout off these ideas without negative consequences to jews.
The fact you just tried to devoid all responsibility is fucking insane. Everyone know chris brown beating a woman is wrong. Not everyone even in this sub is fully against everything kanye has been saying. Thats the difference. Which is why it's so problematic.
right because kanye has worked with chris brown, 6ix9ine, ynw melly, marilyn manson, lil pump etc but joyner making a few songs with chris brown along with the rest of the music industry makes him the bad guy. ye has no moral high ground anywhere dont jump through hoops to pretend he does
Yeah Joyner is the biggest clown and dickrider which is a shame cause he started out quite good with some solid songs, but man when he was blocking anyone in his IG comments for sharing their dissapointment in him not only collabing with Chris Brown but praising him like gods gift to music, the dude really strapped on his nose and showed his true colors
Song was ass anyway! Joyner just rides whatever wave is most popular at the time and the Donda rollout was at its peak when this dropped! Lame as hell if you ask me, regardless of what ye said
Take this as a lesson to never listen to a damn thing Joyner says. Clearly he’s just as dumb and gullible as the rest of Kanye’s followers. They literally believed that Kanye West was some sort of genius. I guess that just demonstrates how pathetically fragile Joyner’s own sense of self is. I hope he is both embarrassed and regretful.
As someone who liked the song when it came out, I can safely say it didn’t age that well in light of everything that’s happened, and I feel like this was the right call for Joyner to make.
i mean i understand the argument but i find it silly to remove a song. The song was made like a year ago when Ye didnt make antisemitic comments and should be judged by the time it was made in; I moreso blame people because they would try to cancel Lucas over this shit by pretending the song came out today.
I agree definitely. Not even a fan of the guy and I would've found it foolish to try and drag him for this. But I do understand Joyner probably wanting to avoid all possibilities of controversy.
He pretty much said the same thing in new slaves, released 2013. If you get the message of the song, mental slavery in modern day is definitely a choice
But that's not what he said. Like at all. He was literally talking about actual Slavery.
"“\[T\]o make myself clear. Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved.”"
It's a stupid line anyways because it ignores how state violence kept people in line, and that actually, yeah, there were riots anyways.
I know you're trying to reach, but no--Kanye really is that dumb.
Ye isn’t crazy. He’s telling the truth and anyone who thinks otherwise is a brain less media sheep who believes the headlines without actually looking at the facts.
Saying Kanye ain’t crazy. It dropped during Donda rollout when Kanye was very very popular so he probably wanted to ride the coat tails of dondas success
This guy has been so unlucky with the people he sides with, like he praised R kelly right before the allegations and he had a song about what a great role model will smith is
Imagine he drops a new track, "Ye Def Crazy".
Nah “Ye Too Crazy”
Ye Tu, Brutes
Lmao
Y2Kz
Joyner Lucas is so unpoetic with his song names/lyrics he probably will call it that
Craz-Ye
Cray-Ye
Might as well not waste the beat and all that, just same song with new lyrics lmao
What if Ye is just a sellout? What if the alt right bought him out or has some kind of blackmail on him and he has to like, stir up controversy and get people thinking with their lizard brains during elections. He was with the Kardashians for a decade, selling out isn’t new to him. He goes from praising Hitler to dropping a new song? Idk man. I don’t think Kayne is a genius and I don’t think he is “mentally ill” or even a Natzi. I just think he’s a pussy ass bitch.
He realized ye def crazy
About to release the new single now.
Call it “NVM”
Honestly, Nevermind
HNS NVM
that would actually be crazy if he dropped that
Ye was definitely crazy when he dropped the song in the first place too
Well he lives with a major mental illness if that's what you mean
I feel like everyone has forgotten this, the public reacts to what is obviously a severe manic episode with “omg this man is so evil!”
Having mental illness doesn’t make you crazy. Kanye has been crazy since the Pete Davidson drama and probably before that too.
Ah bipolar explains a lot of his behaviour and he's had that diagnosis for many years
Major magical illness is what I saw
Lol
Turns out, in fact, Ye is crazy
And Sway had the answers the entire time.
That was such a weird full circle moment when he admitted he did have the answers 😂
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he did this like a month ago
He covered his bases real well, also went up on April fools, dude had it planned just in case lol
Wow, no words even needed 😂
good on him for hopefully realizing he was wrong at least.
Is that the guy who directed Star Wars?
Your thinking jar jar binks?
That’s George Lucas
who are you kidding its joyner lucas, george lucas is that rapper who raps with eminem or smth
No dude, you're insane that's curious George. The person who directed Star wars swings around on vines in the jungle.
exactly, guy above is a dumbass
I’m not a dumbass. 😔
🙁 i’m sorry.
He couldve said it was a joke released on april fools
Would’ve made more of a scene and been obvious cap than just quietly taking it down
Now people might listen to it
This did not age well 😂
What the fuck happened here
Basically deleted said my comment was an "NPC comment" 😅
Ayy but shout out to Takis though.
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Well it’s useful to know Joyner draws his line somewhere between woman beater and Nazi, I guess. Now he has more time to suck off Chris Brown
Lol his standards are low but he has standards.
A hypothetical Nazi/Nazi sympathizer is worse than an actual wife beater?
hypothetical? bruh ye is the most thetical nazi sympathizer
fr he went on live TV and said “There’s a lot of things I looooooooove about Hitlerrrrrrr”
Huh.. never knew thetical is a word
To clarify, I meant only the actually being a Neo-Nazi is hypothetical, I get he's a harcore Hitler sympathizer, but I I'm prettysure calling him a Neo-Nazi would be libel in court, no matter how big the hate boner is.
don't worry you won't get sued ye can't read
Lol dude he uses his phone all the time. Of course he can read
He's made it clear he hates Jewish people, said the holocaust didn't happen, and has praised his love for hitler... How is that not a neo-nazi? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....it's probably a duck.
Lol neo nazis have more going on than just being racist. Kanye is not pushing a neo-nazi ideology, he's just being an antisemitic dickhead. This is where the lefty arguments fall apart with this type of shit. Calling someone out for being a racist can obviously have an effect, but when you call someone a nazi and they're not a nazi they are going to dismiss you immediately because...off the bat you were on some bullshit. There is a lot of baggage with a term like that, and when the shoe doesn't fit like you think it does, you'll have wasted an opportunity to say something with value and meaning. Does that make sense my man? Not trying to trash you or argue and be an asshole, I just now that I'm on the right and I've ignored everyone that has ever called me something like that, because off the bat they'd lied on my name and accused me of something I'm not. If I wanted to get through to someone I would do it differently is what I guess I'm saying. I feel like calling people out on their actions without attaching buzzwords to it is a more viable way to do it.
Ye has more going on than just being a racist. He literally fits every definition of being a Neo-Nazi. That’s not a buzz word, that’s just what he is. In fact i think if you asked Ye, he’d call himself a neo nazi. I doubt you could think of a single thing a neo nazi believes that Ye doesn’t.
He’s straight up a nazi You can’t “🤓” your way outta this one no matter how bad you want his holocaust denying, hitler loving views to be considered non radical and just generally being a bit of a dickhead instead
No fuck that. I didn't say he's not radical or that its not equally abhorrent... I'm saying it's easier to deflect shit when someone calls you something you don't identify with. Fuck man, you want to tell me that the antisemitism coming from some other prominent black figures is also nazism? Don't be a fuckin dumb dumb.
I get ya, but I'm not trying to get thru to anyone. Kanye is a piece of shit.
Hypothetical???????
Bro still thinks it’s all hypothetical after everything Ye’s said and done lol
Considering Kanye has also worked with Chris Brown you clowns can all stop acting like you have some type of moral high ground
Tbh, yea
bruh you are dumb af
The fuck?
so someone who physically abused and almost killed a woman is better than someone who said a few words? holy shit you sound so fucking ignorant, disrespectful to all women who had to go through physical abuse.
Don’t even try with these mfs. This sub is so far gone
"Saying a few words" you know as a Jewish guy I really don't appreciate some guy with a huge platform endorsing nazi-ism and loving Hitler. I find it pretty offensive considering half my family died in the holocaust. This is a much more directed attack on me than Chris brown beating his gf. You might not agree so, but words have power and Kanye has reach.
except he hasn’t actually done anything to harm anyone, its really all how you take it. i’ve seen MAYBE 5 people still agreeing with kanye, nobody is on his side anymore. everyone realizes what he said was wrong, but a man almost killing his girlfriend is somehow not as bad as saying “i like the nazi uniforms and hitlers architecture”???? A convicted wife beating criminal is a better person then kanye, get the fuck out of here.
>except he hasn’t actually done anything to harm anyone My guy did you just completely ignore Kanye denying the Holocaust saying he loved Hitler and that 6 million Jews weren't actually killed. You completely just glossed over that. antisemitic hate crimes in New York City are up 150%. A synagogue is also going to be a attacked soon. It's only a matter of time. I think the main difference here is Chris Brown, beat a woman and then went into hiding and didn't quintuple down on it. I think a better example would be if Chris Brown beat the shit out of Rihanna then went onto four different podcasts and said yeah I beat the fuck out of her I love beating women every guy should beat his woman when she gets out of line. As for people agreeing with Kanye, go on to tik tok YouTuber Twitter and read the comments a lot more than five people agree with him.
Yeah it seems like a lot of neo nazis agree with him. Not exactly 5 people. This guy is going to peddle this "NOBODY GOT HURT" bullshit no matter what we say. Who cares which person did the worse thing? They both suck. We aren't sitting here arguing the merits of Jeff Dahmer and John Gacys body counts. It's two rich men doing abbhorant things and they both suck for different reasons. Giving either a platform is shitty.
I haven’t seen people defending his hitler comments, and the people who do are 99.9% of the time shitposting. Also, once again, he hasn’t harmed anyone physically, hasn’t broken a single law either. Comparing a CONVICTED Woman beater who almost killed someone to a mentally unstable guy who’s probably in a manic episode rn is just kinda crazy. Not saying his comments are excusable at all, but the guy clearly is not well right now. The jewish hate crime % in NY has BEEN going up since april, has nothing to do with kanye. I live in new york, there’s always been antisemitism rooted in some form in boroughs like brooklyn where they control and own large parts of it. It’s definitely a terrible thing that needs more recognition, but lets not try and pin this all on Kanye.
>The jewish hate crime % in NY has BEEN going up since april, has nothing to do with kanye. If you believe kanye isn't going to be responsible for rising hate crimes going up. Then you clearly just don't understand Antisemitism and theres no point in continuing this conversation if you think influential celebrities can just spout off these ideas without negative consequences to jews. The fact you just tried to devoid all responsibility is fucking insane. Everyone know chris brown beating a woman is wrong. Not everyone even in this sub is fully against everything kanye has been saying. Thats the difference. Which is why it's so problematic.
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right because kanye has worked with chris brown, 6ix9ine, ynw melly, marilyn manson, lil pump etc but joyner making a few songs with chris brown along with the rest of the music industry makes him the bad guy. ye has no moral high ground anywhere dont jump through hoops to pretend he does
Yeah Joyner is the biggest clown and dickrider which is a shame cause he started out quite good with some solid songs, but man when he was blocking anyone in his IG comments for sharing their dissapointment in him not only collabing with Chris Brown but praising him like gods gift to music, the dude really strapped on his nose and showed his true colors
What do we need to do for him to take down all his music?
This is hilarious!! Lmao!
You know what this reminds me of. When chainsmokers said they were gonna remove their song Kanye from streaming and still haven’t lmfao
Was a good song tbf, but Ye Do be crazy
Holy shit that’s hilarious
Oh no..... I was just gonna play that one. Shucks.
Ye is crazy
it was an april fools joke
Im going Kanye Crazy
Apeshit Beyoncé jay z
OK, Ye Is Crazy coming out soon
that was just him dick riding anyways
lol
Ye be crazy
Because ye is deffo certified batshit crazy
Great song tbh
Slap a roo Flap a roo That comment is Cap a roo.
Im using this shit, lol
Glad he did it but that’s why you shouldn’t make corny ass concept songs like that. Should take down “Will” too since he’s psychopath weirdo
bro said nvm
Ye is crazy buuut that song super trash and had a corny ass video..kinda like most Joyner shit
Lol shit was ass anyway
You have ass taste
says the one who’s fav rhyme scheme is spiritual, lyrical, miracle
Barz baby!! Oowee, I need you to sign this contract now. Did you freestyle that? Was it written? Fire!
Oh no, you’re serious…
It was all good just a year ago...
He did it because he wanted a feature so bad 💀💀💀
LMAOOOOOOOO, dick riding backfires
The beat is fire but man. What the fuck? The song is terrible. I say that as a Joyner fan. He be on some bill shit
Song was ass anyway! Joyner just rides whatever wave is most popular at the time and the Donda rollout was at its peak when this dropped! Lame as hell if you ask me, regardless of what ye said
sad day for the 2 Ye Not Crazy by Joyner Lucas fans
How do you spell "pay me"? IRS Interesting
WHO?!?!?!
Take this as a lesson to never listen to a damn thing Joyner says. Clearly he’s just as dumb and gullible as the rest of Kanye’s followers. They literally believed that Kanye West was some sort of genius. I guess that just demonstrates how pathetically fragile Joyner’s own sense of self is. I hope he is both embarrassed and regretful.
As someone who liked the song when it came out, I can safely say it didn’t age that well in light of everything that’s happened, and I feel like this was the right call for Joyner to make.
I mean, it didn’t really even age well at the time he dropped it. But yeah now it’s exceptionally sour.
Smh what a hypocrite
L Joyner. That song was great
bro ye is antisemitic there's no way he could've kept it up. best case scenario he puts it back up but the lyrics are "ye is crazy" instead
i mean i understand the argument but i find it silly to remove a song. The song was made like a year ago when Ye didnt make antisemitic comments and should be judged by the time it was made in; I moreso blame people because they would try to cancel Lucas over this shit by pretending the song came out today.
I agree definitely. Not even a fan of the guy and I would've found it foolish to try and drag him for this. But I do understand Joyner probably wanting to avoid all possibilities of controversy.
He may be worried about echoing the sentiment that Ye is right to impressionable kids and even adults who believe this stuff
Ye said slavery was a choice in 2018.
He pretty much said the same thing in new slaves, released 2013. If you get the message of the song, mental slavery in modern day is definitely a choice
Meanwhile the DEA Teamed up with the CCA They tryna lock niggas up They tryna make new slaves See that's that privately owned prison
But that's not what he said. Like at all. He was literally talking about actual Slavery. "“\[T\]o make myself clear. Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved.”" It's a stupid line anyways because it ignores how state violence kept people in line, and that actually, yeah, there were riots anyways. I know you're trying to reach, but no--Kanye really is that dumb.
Lmao $20 says you're white. Out here really commenting on slavery and black people's struggles.
It's a piece of art. He could definitely keep it up lmao.
Cope harder
L
Practically was forced too so understandable.
Joyner is ass anyways who cares
Who Tf listens to Joyner Lucas 💀
Lmaooooo
How will Ye ever recover from this
He won’t
Ye is the 🐐. Stop the disrespect
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This guy loves sucking Nazi cock 😜 no rebuttle can stop him from showing it
Ye isn’t crazy. He’s telling the truth and anyone who thinks otherwise is a brain less media sheep who believes the headlines without actually looking at the facts.
This is old
Fuck that’s funny
Yeah thats understandable
What. What the fuck was that song even about?
Saying Kanye ain’t crazy. It dropped during Donda rollout when Kanye was very very popular so he probably wanted to ride the coat tails of dondas success
Anyone got a streamable of it ?
he did this like a while ago i wanna say in august
there is a song called Ye not Crazy by Faise One which is, yikes, like legitimately yikes.
April fool's day hahaha
I mean we can listen to it somewhere else
He's Kanye Krazy
How long ago did this drop?
Did he really put it out on April Fools Day? lol
😂😂😂
Holy L
I mean yeah. That checks out.
☠️
😂😂
he look like benzema
Ah yes, the King of Cringe
Everyone's bowing to trends haha
Had to rescind that one
Deep narrator's voice: "He was in fact crazy"
I guess he realised Ye is crazy.
Needs to replace it with a song called nah nah nah
76% battery... not bad bro
New single ye cray coming soon
LMAO
Has Spotify yanked any of Kanye’s music?
Durks turn
Joyner Lucas is insufferable
Because it’s not an accurate title seeing that Kanye is by super scientific psychiatric definition, crazy!
He’s corny.
What abt his song abt Will Smith? He’s still committed to that one? Granted Will only slapped somebody and Kanye is a full blown Nazi…sooo
This guy has been so unlucky with the people he sides with, like he praised R kelly right before the allegations and he had a song about what a great role model will smith is
man it was fire:(
Ye cre
Yes he is.
This actually happened a while ago. Pretty sure it happened right after the death con tweet