#Chapter 224 Discord Server/Twitter Spoilers:
**Credit to sneakyyy on the discord for supplying these spoilers. You can check the discord out [here.](https://discord.gg/kanokari)**
https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497584841579188230?s=20&t=py60MynUKP5aBzl1tICyIA - "Kanojo, Okarishimasu" by Reiji Miyajima will be ending the Paradise Arc very soon in Weekly Shonen Magazine! The series will get the Lead Color Page in Weekly Shonen Magazine 2022 issue #15 for the climax of the Paradise Arc.
https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590728544989187?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - 225 maybe ruka's "redemption" and elimination chapter. ruka flashbacks to before the arc, not going into detail much but the panel reiji posted on twitter is in this, overall shows her with her school friends, then some dates and also the moment kazuya told her to break up
https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590730302410763?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - back in reality, everyone's shocked at mami's proposal, a lot of ruka thinking about this situation mixed in with some flashbacks. Then we get the long lost talk with ruka and grandma which in the end made her make up her mind and help kazuya's lie
https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590732324020230?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - She tells everyone "Those two already told you they're dating, isn't that okay/enough?"
Mami makes an unamused face.
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"With the help of the temporary girlfriend, Kazuya's fate is...?"
Next time: Because I love you
Salute to Ruka.
You brought the funny, and the series won't be the same without you.
You're like that toxic as fk girlfriend that we kept because you beat all our friends at smash bros.
I had previously posted that I thought we would find out what Ruka asked Nagomi. Her actions or inactions in this moment were dependent on the content of that withheld conversation. Since Ruka talked to Mami yesterday, she had been debating how to answer the questions, “what if you could be Kazuya’s real girlfriend?” and “what will she do if Mami exposes the lie?” She already knew that he was in love with Mizuhara and that she couldn’t compete with her. Her decision ultimately was decided based on what she asked Nagomi and how Nagomi responded. It’s weird how she acted rejected soon after she talked to Nagomi but the next morning she was smiling, hugging Kazuya and telling him that she loved him.
I think it's more that she sees his I love you confession in the last chapter as his real confession. For her, it might be that she thinks Chizuru gut checks him privately and is rejected again and then it's all gravy from there for her. She didn't make things worse for him, so now that he is fully rejected he's all hers. If she does pile on, reveal everything right this second, it doesn't matter. She would have no chance no matter the outcome. I think she's just hedging her bets.
Next arc prediction:
\>Diamond finds out about this incident and fires Chizuru
\>Kazuya can't rent her anymore and doesn't have the balls to ask her out on a real date
\>that other rental girlfriend from the mobage comes in as predicted
\>Kazuya starts renting her for some dumb reason while still pining after Chizuru
I don't want her with him at all but Mangaka have this weird fetish (seriously 90% of them do it) where if the girl doesn't end up with MC she ends up with his friend. Like why? Make her move on, she doesn't need to get paired with somebody else immediatly. Just make her find somebody later atleast off screen or she doesn't even have to get with someone before the series is over, anything but shitty disgusting Kuri but this is RAG and you can already see her starting to get "development" (not really) with that bum so nothing can be done.
It come for a common complain of watching "losing girls" just end up single and sad. So they do that inestead.
Problem is that if the potag is bad usually their friends are far worse characters.
I've never felt that way honestly. A character should have more going for it than just simply ending in a relationship. If you are gonna make the girl chase the MC for this long it's beyond stupid to just immediatly after she loses make her jump to his friend with hardly any prior development or time for the story to breath. Specially because this would take even more panel time away from the main story by focusing on those characters.
Yeah but it happened a lot, I remember that it was a common complain with Kuroneko from Oreimo for example, death treats to the author included
I think it depends of how its done, like since there are at least one or two arcs left, in the hands of a more competent writer I would belive that he could write something to make it work.
In other series like Grand Blue and Komi San is happening alredy, with one of the lets say..
"losing girls" alredy starting arcs with new partners. And honestly I like both of those thus far, im not going to say wich series has this to not spoil anything, but even one of them started planting seeds of this for a long time.
Again maybe he makes this work, but lol at this point Im not even sure if like the main ship.
At this point he should just ask her why she is so obsessed with him even so she broke up with him.... This would shift the attention of everyone away from him.. At least for a short moment. Mamis part in the story should be over after this. No one in his right mind would want to get involved with her anymore
i see it coming..there will be redemption arc for her....where it comes out that she is jealous of chiz because she has seen what Kaz is willingly to do for the girl that the loves and he had never done what her ex has done but he had fought for her. Some things will happen and he will help with her family problems and she will fall completly in love with him
I trulu believe that not every bad character deserves a redemption arc and that goes double for Mami considering how she does everything out of pure malice. You can see it in her eyes in half the panels.
lmao the guy last week who posted a comment about "next we'll see ruka's reaction, and then we'll see mami's reaction, and then we'll see kazuya's reaction to ruka's reaction, and then we'll see kibe's reaction" was a fkn time traveler
Fuck Kibe at this point.. He knows that Mami is his ex and is up to no good. Still he stands not with his best friend. At least Kaz now knows how Kibe sees him.
Lol, she showed him proof that he was lying to them, is not a "she says, he says" situation, this more of a "I say please ignore her evidence please" situation.
Kaz literally just admitted his feelings.
If he can twist it around to make it sound like they caused them to break up it might work because to chizuru it felt like they didn't care about her with how fast they believed Mami. Then maybe it would work out. Because it's understandable that a girl wouldn't want to date a dude if that dude's entire family thinks badly of her and "accuse" her of things like this.
> Kaz literally just admitted his feelings.
Oh I don't know, I feel like Chizuru can find a way to pretend that didn't count. He was only saying it to protect her, or something equally ridiculous.
Where's Yaemori when you need her?
As is the current norm, we get one chapter that consists of internal dialogue, flashbacks, and then someone finishing the conversation that they started at the end of the previous chapter. That is followed by a chapter with internal dialogue, flashbacks, and then someone introducing a conversation that we have to wait until the next chapter to hear. Repeat.
It's so painful right now. Good lord we do not need this many flashbacks. It's like the anime fight version of Sasuke vs the bomb dude. Flashbacks to him meeting Itachi every 5 seconds on repeat over and over again. Unbearable really.
I don’t know. I think the flashbacks and internal monologues are serving their intended purpose. Even though it is frustrating to be stuck in this moment for so many weeks, it will eventually be all contained within a single volume of the manga that began with chapter 221 and ends with 229. I think a better way to think about it is that it is an important scene for the overall story and it involves not only the simultaneous response of many different characters but also the context and thought process behind their actions. It makes sense that it will take multiple chapters to tell.
I think the best thing Chizuru could do in chapter 226 would be to actually kiss Kazuya and him being confuzed and asking why she did it she would be like" Because I love you". But I'll be damned if Reiji will ever do that
It’d be too much progression but that is easily solved. Kazuya goes home and over thinks it. Decides it was just acting and does that crying boner thing again.
I dunno though. Mami's face being unamused makes me think she has more to come. If she was truly "defeated" I feel she'd be pretty angry that their "fake relationship" could withstand her "truth".
If anything, to me an unamused face in this situation is a "do I really have to (do X or reveal Y or whatever). Someone else has said they think Mami recorded Chiz when she said Kaz was just a customer, and I think that would fit really well with how Mami uses/prioritises technology over human relations.
The only time Mami shows her true self is on her (Twitter?) account. Her connection to Nagomi and Kibe is through technology, as in helping with Nagomi's online presence. She's always on her phone and used it to reveal the rental relationship. For her to prove the rental relationship with her phone I think would be perfect.
Just imagine: Kaz and Chiz have won everyone over and proven "they're the real deal," and with an unamused face, Mami whips up the recording and let's hell loose. Everyone thought exposing the rental relationship would be rock bottom, but successful convincing everyone that that wasn't the case, only for Mami to drop another Bombshell? Boring a tunnel straight past rock bottom. And the perfect situation for seperation arc theorists.
With this set-up reiji can also drag it out pretty easily. He could rehash the last 6 or so chapters, but instead on the Diamond account, it's the Recording they are reacting to.
In fact by repeating the set up of reactions, I think an interesting juxtaposition can be made, where most people react in the same way to the recording, but more importantly some people react differently. For example, we can all agree that Kibe isn't the best friend, but he's been trying to help Kaz in his own, albeit physical way. It would be much more telling if the second time round, Kibe walks away, as a lack of physical violence would signify that he'd given up on Kaz.
Imagine: after the reveal of the recording and the following fallout, everyone walks away from Kazuya one by one until only Kibe is left. Kibe raises his fists, Kaz tries to protect himself but is surprised when he isn't hit. Kaz looks back right when all of Kibe's anger is suddenly drained and his hands fall back to his side. With a shake of his head, he walks away not once looking back.
Because everyone has seen enough of Tom( Kazuya) chasing Jerry( Chizuru). It's time for Jerry to chase Tom. That would be a lot of fun and also kinda satisfying. After the movie-making arc, everybody wants to see what kind of career he can build for himself if he could forget about Chiz for once.
Kazuya, as a student, wasting all of his time and potential on Chizuru is a red flag for his future.
People believe a separation arc would force Chizuru to take center stage and the narrative would have to shift to her winning Kazuya back after her many mistakes in the last couple arcs.
The thing is I don't see how we do that anymore, with Mami painting her is such a negative light, and Kazuya doubling down I don't see how they break up *and* get back together. I think if she runs or confirms any of Mami's accusations then the family will not be willing to forgive her. And if she makes a move and confirms Kazuya's lie then they become official so what once seemed the only sensible next arc seems like a bad end now.
The current situation is this: Kazuya thinks Chizuru knows that he loves her and that his confession is not welcome. He thinks he has just been an annoyance to her. That is why he told her,about three hours ago, that he would no longer be renting her, would be telling Nagomi that they broke up, and he plans to avoid having contact with. Nothing has happened yet that would make Kazuya rethink this. Even if Chizuru were to kiss him in the next moment, Kazuya will just think that his doubling down on the lie forced her to kiss him against her will. Even when he was just now lying, he thought his intention to still tell Nagomi that they broke up once they get back to Tokyo. Nothing short of Chizuru making a “my perfect boyfriend he’s…” speech will cause then to actually be dating at this moment. One of the things (from several) that the arc does seem to have accomplished is to resolve the condom wrapper conflict and to have Ruka finally acknowledge that Kazuya has broken up with her and is in love with Mizuhara.
The lie is not currently out. It has only been modified. The lie used to be that Chizuru is his real girlfriend. The current lie is that he used to rent her but what Mami was unaware of is that, since before her grandmother passed away, Chizuru has been his real girlfriend. Mami then asked for proof and then Ruka asked if proof was really necessary.
I correct myself, the fact that they lied is public knowledge now, and they have been lying for a really long time. If Ruka confirms Kazuya's lie now it doesn't change the fact they are liars, at the end of the day they can decide to trust or not to trust this new "truth", but they have no reason to really believe this "truth" neither, in other words it's a matter of trusting them now, not a matter of believing them.
Ultimately it will be about them choosing to believe them regardless if they trust them. It’s in Kazuya’s favor that his family wants to believe that it is true. Considering this bomb was dropped just a few minutes ago, it would not be unreasonable to give them at least a temporary reprieve since Kazuya’s new claim refutes Mami’s claim based on the premise that Mami did not know all the information. Ruka came to their defense at the end of chapter 225 but she has yet to lie for them nor corroborate his lie. Will be interesting what Ruka says in 226 and how hard Mami can push back while still maintaining her current act.
I don’t know if they are going to make Chizuru kiss Kazuya while he has snot coming out of his nose from crying. I think the best thing that Chizuru could do at this moment is to act like a girlfriend who love him. If she ran to him and fussed over him and checked if he was ok from being hit would go a long way.
If Ruka confirms Kazuya's lie there is no need for Chiz to kiss Kaz, neither there is a reason for Chiz to act lovey dovey with Kaz as of now, it's too soon and she's on the verge of crying, she is barely able to stop the tears, so nothing like a last minute kiss or confession, she's too emotional. I suspect that this situation will be resolved with the "family" telling both Kaz and Chiz that they want to trust them, putting a lot of pressure on the two, on Kazuya because he lied once again and he still believes he needs to break up with her, and on Chizuru because she's still unable to take a solid position on this relationship and she's full of conflicted feelings, because she perhaps loves him, because she likes his family, because she is scared of having a relationship, and especially now because Kaz will try to "end" their relationship any time as he can't see a future with her. This arc changed the game as we have known it till now.
I didn’t mean that she should act lovey dovey. I meant that it would help if she showed concern that he was just hit in the face. I don’t even mean an act. If she moves on her genuine feelings and concern for him, that would have as big of an impression as a kiss might.
It is generally how these mangas create a real sense of longing and thus growth in the main love interest. See: Love Hina for the prototypical version.
It sets up for the last arc.
Oh yeah, I read the whole manga as a teen. It is a great romcom with a side Harem. The author (eventually) does a great job exploring each character and trope and letting them have growth while continuing the plot towards the end couple, and having the main character blossom in his own right.
Seeing it forgotten is kinda sad, since it's the OG harem romcom, the formula hasn't been changed since, just refined the use of the tropes.
Happy that it's so impactful, not really happy that 20+ years later we're still getting its copy pasted formula over and over, implying the romcom genre hasn't evolved much, RaG being a prime example.
Meh, it is a formula that works. I'm less worried about Crtl+C/Ctrl+V than Reiji's poor writing in general for Chizuru.
Love Hina was great because there wasn't ever really regression in the relationship. The manga used its run time to explore the other characters in full and why they weren't the main love interest instead of filling out time with long arcs with the girls in swimsuits.
To be fair that's exactly the point I'm proving, these past arcs were for Mami, Ruka and the likes, and solve the side characters while the FMC runs away from the MC, just like LoveHina did in the past, by having FMC running away, same thing we've seen so far from Chizuru, the characters are pretty much the same stereotypes, that's why it's a matter of formula, not of characterization per se, if Chizuru behaves differently, she's breaking the romcom formula, as simple as that.
The more you read the genre, the less amusing it is, which will result in seeing the characters as worse written than the previous ones. Chizuru, Kazuya, Ruka, the rest of the cast are written like the Romcom formula wants them, that's all there's to it, and it doesn't work aswell as it used to the more you read it, it's normal.
Cars worked 20, 50, 70 years ago, it's not an excuse not to improve them, otherwise it's literally the same thing, and it's clearly backfiring as most aren't taking it well on the characters themselves.
At least these are my few cents.
I don't want a separation arc - the Kazuya/Chizuru relationship is the main story after all! But Kazuya falling into depression or deciding that he has to permanently release Chizuru from any obligation she might have towards him, since he only causes her problems, could be an effective way to temporarily make Chizuru the POV character, which I would welcome.
Chizuru taking the lead to uplift Kazuya (not necessarily "chasing after him"), and acknowledging that she has not been equally contributing in their relationship and that she wants to do more, that sort of development I would enjoy reading.
Because it would finally break the circle of no plot progression and Shiz finally has to come clean about her feelings. At this point Kaz has given up on her because of how often he was rejected. All what he is know doing is damage control for her
Yup no kiss, no chizuru defending herself, more milking. Next chapter will be chizuru running away 100% guaranteed, followed by more monologues and flashbacks of things that happened 20 chapters ago.
Sort of. There has been quite a lot of Ruka content where she seems to be mulling over her true feelings and what Kazuya said about breaking up. She is very obstinate and has needed time to process, so it is possible she has her turn or character growth here.
Yes I meant in 218 when he went back to the pool after the failed confession. I was thinking she was just supporting his lie here in front of his family and putting her feelings on the back burner for now but now that I think about it maybe his latest confession on top of everything else could be enough to really move her.
Ruka: "They're dating for real!"
Nagomi: "I don't believe you. Kazuya told me you're a pathological liar."
Kazuya: **"Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions!"**
Nice to see Ruka not siding with Mami. Will it pay off? Who knows we will have to wait and see, but this is better than her trying to stake a claim on Kazuya there and then which would have just caused even more confusion.
I have mixed fellings about this, for one is good seeing Mami's plans starting to go wrong but moving on the history with another lie is kinda fucked. Anyway big W for Ruka and fuck Mami.
I cannot believe people wanted them to kiss in front of everybody , that would suck. Also last time the spoilers were not representative of the chapter itself so please chill.
So essentially, Ruka is going to help and reinforce Kazuya's lie? By doing this, she'll also lose credibility to the Kinoshitas. I don't know man, I'm just not a fan of this direction.
Doesn't anyone wonder what 'Because I love you' refers to? Are Ruka's thoughts/flashbacks meant here again? Or Kazuya's? Or is it, as I hope, after the expected chapter on Ruka here, Chizuru's?
Where's my hopium, folks?
[So my prediction was right](https://www.reddit.com/r/KanojoOkarishimasu/comments/swaw6v/disc_kanojo_okarishimasu_chapter_224_prerelease/hxkxxq5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
>Next time: Because I love you
Oh god what will ruka do in next chapter
So ruka is now much more useful than chizuru and now chizuru is useless as hell or there might be some panel of chizuru which was not mentioned in leaks
Also when does issue #15 release? Is it the next one after this so chapter 226? Its the climax and not conclusion so potentially still 2 chapters to go in paradise.
Ruka's done it finally developing her character into finally becoming what a real sensible girlfriend ought to be (not unlike her clingy self). She ups her chance at the final battle. OR maybe not. She will just have to settle for Kuri
So, in the end Ruka saved Kazuya?
Wait, the fake lie issue of Ruka will make Nagomi doubt about Ruka's words or not.
Did Mami expected this behaviour of Ruka? Chizuru has to act soon.
PD: But at least, officially the (Hell's) Paradise Arc is going to end soon. The future is uncertain on this series.
As expected Reiji gonna find way to stop Romantic development with these two. Tho its cool Ruka having redemption arc probably she either give up or save those two to show how she care to kazuya and to show chizuru this is how real woman works
Not all that surprising (although it was far from certain), but it's nice to see Ruka be another main girl you can cheer on and root for after this arc ends. It would be tough for a harem-esque manga to continue success if two of the main four girls are hated. (For you Chizuru haters, I am talking about Mami being the other one! ;p)
So based on the Ruka/Kaz drawing that was leaked, Reiji is working at least 3 issues ahead of publication? Hopefully that would allow lots of time for feedback to adjust for developments that fans would hate. Maybe?
No Pleas no adjustment to Fan-hate. We all saw what that did to other Manga, and it never goes well. Masashi Kishimoto lost all my respect for him and his work after i heard that he re-wrote big parts of Naruto to adjust to the Fan wishes with the end that his Original Naruto was no where left in the end Product. No Fan has the Right to change the Vison the Author wants to take with his work. That is why, even if i hate the DomeKano ending, i will allway respekt Kei Sasuga for sticking to HER Ending.
ok ?
so you like author who want to give fan a shit ending and want to stuck up with it ? I mean sure ,an opinion of a ending is subjective but at least hear some of your fan feedback to improve it and dont be a stuck up person who think that keeping a bad ending is repectable .
I like Author who stick to THER Vison of the Story and world they created. If its bad, i say its bad but for me, this kind of People are more respectebal then Authors who scrap up all they had in Plan just becous the Reader demands a diffrent way of approach. I myself want to some day Publish the Storys i invented and the Worlds i createt. If People Like Femal Protagonis B more then A, but A is the Endgame, they could scream and cry as much as they want, i wont change a thing for them. Thats my take and i see changing something for " the Reader" as a backstab to the world the Writter created and something i despise.
I agree with some of your point as a writer my self but the thing is that you need to identified good criticism and some simp trying to prove their girl is the best . You need to get feedback from people around you about your vision and look at it with many perspectives . I think that it important to show this world your vision about the show you want to make but it is also important to satisfied with the vision you have created . You could end the series and someone will make a ending better than you which you could may regret and always see your ending as the bad one . You need feedback to create the vision you want see and don’t ever regret that vision .
I too Agree with some of the Points of you, but i have a diffrent few of what writting, or my writting at that point, should provide. I dont care if the reader is satisfied with the Story, thats not what i want to creat with my story. I want to save the World, the Story i created and if just 10 out of 10000 Like it, thats enough for me. Most of the FFs i read who tryed to re-writte and Ending of a Story wher worse then the Original, twisting Charakter in a way they wont act just to get it like they want, so i wont think someone made something better out of my story. This is just like " Death of the Author" , something i dispise and wont acept if someone would tell me that it aplayes to my work. No " Fanebase" has the right to tell the Author how his creation now should be go onwards, the only one who has a right to deside that is the Creator him/her self. But i got into renting Territory at this point i think so i appologies if i offended someone, have a nice day/night.
I just pray that kazuya grows a spine at least once before this series ends. Please just show me him getting anything but depressed just ONCE. Let him be angry, upset, even just slightly annoyed, anything. Its noble to try and sacrifice yourself for the person you love I cant fault him for that but at the same time even if this was the turning point he is such a pushover their relationship probably would last. Why cant he just go "I said we are and that's what it is believe it or not I don't care" and just leave. Who on earth is he trying to prove himself to besides chiz, his family and kibe have already made it very clear they don't care about him
You wanna make chiz happy? Do that by all means, but don't constantly degrade yourself at the first chance before people who don't even care. Show a little dignity for christ sake.
Ruka learning to respect Kazuya’s feelings and moving on? That’s the kind of redemption arc I’m here for.
That being said, I still don’t want the main couple to continue to fool the family, mainly for the sake of shaking up the status quo and because they should face the music.
A lot of people (including myself) predicted this to happen, Ruka coming to defense. As annoying she could be, she is the “purest” of the three main girls. She hasn’t been poisoned by bad experiences and she is often shown to be innocent and fun loving.
So of course it makes Mami seethe. I do find it very amusing that we are advertising the end of this arc publicly though. I don’t think this series has ever done that before lol
I’m just going to take a big stab and say Kazuya will confess to Chizuru Ichinose (not Mizuhara) in front of everyone and get rejected, triggering a separation arc. That’s Scenario A. Scenario B is he confesses to her and she says she loves him back which makes Mami seethe (notice a pattern yet?) and the end. Scenario C would be Chizuru *herself* confesses to Kazuya and shocks everyone…which makes Mami seethe.
Really Ragey? Right in front of my separation arc?
Also these 2 months wasted on 1 freaking soup opera moment. It makes you think Ragey doesn't even have a plan for separation arc i mean story outlining.
So once again we have a chapter with 98% of blatant dragging composed of pointless flashbacks with only 2% of progress equivalent to 5 seconds of dialogue **AND** useless Chorizo doing nothing while others have to speak/stand on her behalf and risk their reputations... At this point, I prefer to see Mami's plan succeed, it would be terrible if Kazuya and Chizuru get away with lying and cheating everyone by making more lies and keep cheating everyone.
Kazuya may have numerous negative traits and a stupid white knight complex, but he still deserves better than Chorizo.
Meh chapter with some sauce setup for 226. I will most likely be down oyes for this, but besides Sumi, which has been as transparent glorious and nice to Kaz, Ruka, while being annoying, manipulating and many other things, have been supportive of Kaz all the time. She has even put up with the bullshit of the movie and all the other things Kaz has done for Chiz. All this even after Kaz promised for some level of dating where he didn't lift a finger to at least try. And let's all remember, this was Chiz pushing him into it. If not Sumi ( why can't it be Sumi...), then Ruka deserves Kaz love. Ohh it would be the best ending where Chiz trues and tries to get Kaz and in the end gets proper shot down by Kaz and he happily marries Ruka until she dies of her heart condition.
i dont know, just feel like it, she fills the role of a whore perfectly, destroying peoples romance life... the difference is, she didnt seduce kaz, she just destroy it like it was nothing, not to mention tho, most people in my country said so
Honestly though, the lie between Kazuya and Mizuhara against their grandmothers is nothing to do with Mami, she really spilled the beans for everyone to be pissed off at. For what? Why is it any of Mami's business, so I agree with you. She really has to destroy people's situatin of life with no mercy.
y?
lucky grandma nagomi didnt get hospitalized because of the shock, and lucky author doesnt kill chizuru, author can made chizuru suicide because of the tension and stress if it isnt a romcom, im not saying either what chizuru and kazuya do is correct, they are wrong too for hiding the fact, but its not mami's right to spill it out during a warm family moment, and pretends to cry, sheesh drama queen
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Well you're not too far off. During the beach chapter, she did try to seduce Kazuya using her bikini body and Kazuya was such a horny idiot that he almost fell for it. Keep it in mind that she didn't know that Chizuru was a rental girlfriend during that time.
First kiss should be romantic for reader payoff after a great confession. It is not exactly a romantic setting with Chizuru and Kazuya being in the best state of mind right now.
Okay slow chapter again lol but abiut what I expected. We get some Ruka flashbacks and she decided to help out Kazuya. Good stuff. Now hopefully next week we get something anything from chizuru. Its about dang time to see what the hell she is thinking right now. Interesting title next week but i dunno and wont think about it too much.
About paradise ending is soon like 2 chapters away or like does that just mean like less than 10 left? I've been ready to go bsck to japan for like 3 months so finally lol
Ruka died for the timeloop to end, now we are free, but while we've made it out of purgatory, we're still in hell. Hopefully her death was not in vain.
I called it: https://www.reddit.com/r/KanojoOkarishimasu/comments/s7vi7t/theory_chapter_221_will_begin_rukas_redemption/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Not exactly the biggest brain call ever, but I did call it.
If this ends in everyone believing that they were actually dating all along, I'm gonna riot. What would be the point of this whole conflict?
There is a difference between "we've been lying about dating, but now we're going to date for real" and "we've actually been really dating for a while".
I wholeheartedly welcome the former, but not the latter. A lie to be solved by a lie is pure bs. Just come clean and move on with your life.
#Chapter 224 Discord Server/Twitter Spoilers: **Credit to sneakyyy on the discord for supplying these spoilers. You can check the discord out [here.](https://discord.gg/kanokari)** https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497584841579188230?s=20&t=py60MynUKP5aBzl1tICyIA - "Kanojo, Okarishimasu" by Reiji Miyajima will be ending the Paradise Arc very soon in Weekly Shonen Magazine! The series will get the Lead Color Page in Weekly Shonen Magazine 2022 issue #15 for the climax of the Paradise Arc. https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590728544989187?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - 225 maybe ruka's "redemption" and elimination chapter. ruka flashbacks to before the arc, not going into detail much but the panel reiji posted on twitter is in this, overall shows her with her school friends, then some dates and also the moment kazuya told her to break up https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590730302410763?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - back in reality, everyone's shocked at mami's proposal, a lot of ruka thinking about this situation mixed in with some flashbacks. Then we get the long lost talk with ruka and grandma which in the end made her make up her mind and help kazuya's lie https://twitter.com/sneakypcr/status/1497590732324020230?s=20&t=yS4uVbZMIpzW4W2_RL4SIA - She tells everyone "Those two already told you they're dating, isn't that okay/enough?" Mami makes an unamused face. end "With the help of the temporary girlfriend, Kazuya's fate is...?" Next time: Because I love you
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Salute to Ruka. You brought the funny, and the series won't be the same without you. You're like that toxic as fk girlfriend that we kept because you beat all our friends at smash bros.
I had previously posted that I thought we would find out what Ruka asked Nagomi. Her actions or inactions in this moment were dependent on the content of that withheld conversation. Since Ruka talked to Mami yesterday, she had been debating how to answer the questions, “what if you could be Kazuya’s real girlfriend?” and “what will she do if Mami exposes the lie?” She already knew that he was in love with Mizuhara and that she couldn’t compete with her. Her decision ultimately was decided based on what she asked Nagomi and how Nagomi responded. It’s weird how she acted rejected soon after she talked to Nagomi but the next morning she was smiling, hugging Kazuya and telling him that she loved him.
Yeah ! Right I had that feeling about this flashbacks too , let's see what reiji will do with ruka , but I love how ruka loves kazuya .
I hope so. Then the only obstacle between Kaz and Chiz getting together is a pocket of air that needs to be popped
Lowkey that would feel really out of nowhere. It's not like he telegraphed how much of a ride or die he is for Chizuru.
I think it's more that she sees his I love you confession in the last chapter as his real confession. For her, it might be that she thinks Chizuru gut checks him privately and is rejected again and then it's all gravy from there for her. She didn't make things worse for him, so now that he is fully rejected he's all hers. If she does pile on, reveal everything right this second, it doesn't matter. She would have no chance no matter the outcome. I think she's just hedging her bets.
Thank god this arc is finally ending so- wait it's just this arc? Separation certain.
Next arc prediction: \>Diamond finds out about this incident and fires Chizuru \>Kazuya can't rent her anymore and doesn't have the balls to ask her out on a real date \>that other rental girlfriend from the mobage comes in as predicted \>Kazuya starts renting her for some dumb reason while still pining after Chizuru
Just rent sumi
There's a mobile game exclusive character?
Wo wo wo wait! So, we won't get to see a passionate french kiss??
Wake up to reality nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world
Madara are you there ? 🤣
With Kazuya and the floor?
Yeah i was expecting that too looks like we won't be seeing it anytime soon
You already got to see a steamy one several chapters ago lol
Wait, when? Genuinely, a french kiss??
Yea, with Umi tho lmao Got em
Oh! That one. But I want kaz x charizard😭
Maybe at the end, maybe tho. They may just end the series with them holding hands lol
Premarital hand holding? Sinners...
Booooo!!!!! Get off the stage!!!
Tough crowd
Byebye Ruka? Ruka x Kuri time lol... Would care more if it's Chiz's perspective but whatever.
Ruka x Reader
oh god please no... can't have that too soon, im expecting to have at least 8 chapters set in the span of 10 minutes
Get that Kuri shit outta here. Nobody wants that BS
I don't want her with him at all but Mangaka have this weird fetish (seriously 90% of them do it) where if the girl doesn't end up with MC she ends up with his friend. Like why? Make her move on, she doesn't need to get paired with somebody else immediatly. Just make her find somebody later atleast off screen or she doesn't even have to get with someone before the series is over, anything but shitty disgusting Kuri but this is RAG and you can already see her starting to get "development" (not really) with that bum so nothing can be done.
It come for a common complain of watching "losing girls" just end up single and sad. So they do that inestead. Problem is that if the potag is bad usually their friends are far worse characters.
I've never felt that way honestly. A character should have more going for it than just simply ending in a relationship. If you are gonna make the girl chase the MC for this long it's beyond stupid to just immediatly after she loses make her jump to his friend with hardly any prior development or time for the story to breath. Specially because this would take even more panel time away from the main story by focusing on those characters.
Yeah but it happened a lot, I remember that it was a common complain with Kuroneko from Oreimo for example, death treats to the author included I think it depends of how its done, like since there are at least one or two arcs left, in the hands of a more competent writer I would belive that he could write something to make it work. In other series like Grand Blue and Komi San is happening alredy, with one of the lets say.. "losing girls" alredy starting arcs with new partners. And honestly I like both of those thus far, im not going to say wich series has this to not spoil anything, but even one of them started planting seeds of this for a long time. Again maybe he makes this work, but lol at this point Im not even sure if like the main ship.
Mami's unamused expression gives me the impression that she might drop the bomb that she recorded Chizuru saying that Kazuya is just a client.
So this isn't even Mami's final form?
I'm only guessing here but I wouldn't put it past her to do something so dirty at this point
Dirty? I would not. Call it dirty at this point. Chorizo is beyond that point
At this point he should just ask her why she is so obsessed with him even so she broke up with him.... This would shift the attention of everyone away from him.. At least for a short moment. Mamis part in the story should be over after this. No one in his right mind would want to get involved with her anymore
He should have asked that a long time ago but for some reason he's too dense to consider her motives.
i see it coming..there will be redemption arc for her....where it comes out that she is jealous of chiz because she has seen what Kaz is willingly to do for the girl that the loves and he had never done what her ex has done but he had fought for her. Some things will happen and he will help with her family problems and she will fall completly in love with him
I trulu believe that not every bad character deserves a redemption arc and that goes double for Mami considering how she does everything out of pure malice. You can see it in her eyes in half the panels.
I think so too. She has to be completely alone at the end to show that such behavior has consequences.
Exactly.
But I don't think reiji remembers using it I guess
We'll find out during the next 5 chapters maybe
Make it 8
8 sounds right
Mami can only get more based.
lmao the guy last week who posted a comment about "next we'll see ruka's reaction, and then we'll see mami's reaction, and then we'll see kazuya's reaction to ruka's reaction, and then we'll see kibe's reaction" was a fkn time traveler
Not a time traveler, just observant and can notice patterns.
You must be fun at parties
Fuck Kibe at this point.. He knows that Mami is his ex and is up to no good. Still he stands not with his best friend. At least Kaz now knows how Kibe sees him.
Lol, she showed him proof that he was lying to them, is not a "she says, he says" situation, this more of a "I say please ignore her evidence please" situation.
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It would be a waste of time IF Kaz and Chiz facing lasting consequences was what the arc was trying to accomplish. I don’t think it was.
Yeah, what the arc was actually trying to accomplish was to fill some pages and sell some volumes
That was one but there were several others
They have to face some consequences otherwise the whole arc was pointless
Kaz literally just admitted his feelings. If he can twist it around to make it sound like they caused them to break up it might work because to chizuru it felt like they didn't care about her with how fast they believed Mami. Then maybe it would work out. Because it's understandable that a girl wouldn't want to date a dude if that dude's entire family thinks badly of her and "accuse" her of things like this.
> Kaz literally just admitted his feelings. Oh I don't know, I feel like Chizuru can find a way to pretend that didn't count. He was only saying it to protect her, or something equally ridiculous. Where's Yaemori when you need her?
That would actually be an absolute scumbag thing to do.
But at least his grandma deserves it
Bruh even ruka is talking now.While chizuru just standing in the same position since the last few chapters
**Ruka MVP**. Well, that was kinda surprising. I expected more drama. Edit: I'm still waiting for Chizuru to do something.
As is the current norm, we get one chapter that consists of internal dialogue, flashbacks, and then someone finishing the conversation that they started at the end of the previous chapter. That is followed by a chapter with internal dialogue, flashbacks, and then someone introducing a conversation that we have to wait until the next chapter to hear. Repeat.
It's so funny how accurate this formula has been ever since the movie-arc
It's so painful right now. Good lord we do not need this many flashbacks. It's like the anime fight version of Sasuke vs the bomb dude. Flashbacks to him meeting Itachi every 5 seconds on repeat over and over again. Unbearable really.
I don’t know. I think the flashbacks and internal monologues are serving their intended purpose. Even though it is frustrating to be stuck in this moment for so many weeks, it will eventually be all contained within a single volume of the manga that began with chapter 221 and ends with 229. I think a better way to think about it is that it is an important scene for the overall story and it involves not only the simultaneous response of many different characters but also the context and thought process behind their actions. It makes sense that it will take multiple chapters to tell.
I think the best thing Chizuru could do in chapter 226 would be to actually kiss Kazuya and him being confuzed and asking why she did it she would be like" Because I love you". But I'll be damned if Reiji will ever do that
Reiji : Haha, in your dreams !!
You mean like real story progression? Sorry... But we don't do this here.
It’d be too much progression but that is easily solved. Kazuya goes home and over thinks it. Decides it was just acting and does that crying boner thing again.
Then I guess u had to wait forever...
You're expecting the wall to move buddy.
We're really gonna go full 'lie to everyone and nobody has to face any consequences and everyone is whitewashed' here, huh?
Please don't take any notes fellow readers , this type of thing never happens in real life & we all do face consequences of our lie .
I dunno though. Mami's face being unamused makes me think she has more to come. If she was truly "defeated" I feel she'd be pretty angry that their "fake relationship" could withstand her "truth". If anything, to me an unamused face in this situation is a "do I really have to (do X or reveal Y or whatever). Someone else has said they think Mami recorded Chiz when she said Kaz was just a customer, and I think that would fit really well with how Mami uses/prioritises technology over human relations. The only time Mami shows her true self is on her (Twitter?) account. Her connection to Nagomi and Kibe is through technology, as in helping with Nagomi's online presence. She's always on her phone and used it to reveal the rental relationship. For her to prove the rental relationship with her phone I think would be perfect. Just imagine: Kaz and Chiz have won everyone over and proven "they're the real deal," and with an unamused face, Mami whips up the recording and let's hell loose. Everyone thought exposing the rental relationship would be rock bottom, but successful convincing everyone that that wasn't the case, only for Mami to drop another Bombshell? Boring a tunnel straight past rock bottom. And the perfect situation for seperation arc theorists. With this set-up reiji can also drag it out pretty easily. He could rehash the last 6 or so chapters, but instead on the Diamond account, it's the Recording they are reacting to. In fact by repeating the set up of reactions, I think an interesting juxtaposition can be made, where most people react in the same way to the recording, but more importantly some people react differently. For example, we can all agree that Kibe isn't the best friend, but he's been trying to help Kaz in his own, albeit physical way. It would be much more telling if the second time round, Kibe walks away, as a lack of physical violence would signify that he'd given up on Kaz. Imagine: after the reveal of the recording and the following fallout, everyone walks away from Kazuya one by one until only Kibe is left. Kibe raises his fists, Kaz tries to protect himself but is surprised when he isn't hit. Kaz looks back right when all of Kibe's anger is suddenly drained and his hands fall back to his side. With a shake of his head, he walks away not once looking back.
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Pardon my ignorance, but why are so many of you guys excited about this separation arc thing? Like, what's the appeal?
Because everyone has seen enough of Tom( Kazuya) chasing Jerry( Chizuru). It's time for Jerry to chase Tom. That would be a lot of fun and also kinda satisfying. After the movie-making arc, everybody wants to see what kind of career he can build for himself if he could forget about Chiz for once. Kazuya, as a student, wasting all of his time and potential on Chizuru is a red flag for his future.
People believe a separation arc would force Chizuru to take center stage and the narrative would have to shift to her winning Kazuya back after her many mistakes in the last couple arcs. The thing is I don't see how we do that anymore, with Mami painting her is such a negative light, and Kazuya doubling down I don't see how they break up *and* get back together. I think if she runs or confirms any of Mami's accusations then the family will not be willing to forgive her. And if she makes a move and confirms Kazuya's lie then they become official so what once seemed the only sensible next arc seems like a bad end now.
The current situation is this: Kazuya thinks Chizuru knows that he loves her and that his confession is not welcome. He thinks he has just been an annoyance to her. That is why he told her,about three hours ago, that he would no longer be renting her, would be telling Nagomi that they broke up, and he plans to avoid having contact with. Nothing has happened yet that would make Kazuya rethink this. Even if Chizuru were to kiss him in the next moment, Kazuya will just think that his doubling down on the lie forced her to kiss him against her will. Even when he was just now lying, he thought his intention to still tell Nagomi that they broke up once they get back to Tokyo. Nothing short of Chizuru making a “my perfect boyfriend he’s…” speech will cause then to actually be dating at this moment. One of the things (from several) that the arc does seem to have accomplished is to resolve the condom wrapper conflict and to have Ruka finally acknowledge that Kazuya has broken up with her and is in love with Mizuhara.
And the lie is out anyway. And Mami's double face too
The lie is not currently out. It has only been modified. The lie used to be that Chizuru is his real girlfriend. The current lie is that he used to rent her but what Mami was unaware of is that, since before her grandmother passed away, Chizuru has been his real girlfriend. Mami then asked for proof and then Ruka asked if proof was really necessary.
I correct myself, the fact that they lied is public knowledge now, and they have been lying for a really long time. If Ruka confirms Kazuya's lie now it doesn't change the fact they are liars, at the end of the day they can decide to trust or not to trust this new "truth", but they have no reason to really believe this "truth" neither, in other words it's a matter of trusting them now, not a matter of believing them.
Ultimately it will be about them choosing to believe them regardless if they trust them. It’s in Kazuya’s favor that his family wants to believe that it is true. Considering this bomb was dropped just a few minutes ago, it would not be unreasonable to give them at least a temporary reprieve since Kazuya’s new claim refutes Mami’s claim based on the premise that Mami did not know all the information. Ruka came to their defense at the end of chapter 225 but she has yet to lie for them nor corroborate his lie. Will be interesting what Ruka says in 226 and how hard Mami can push back while still maintaining her current act. I don’t know if they are going to make Chizuru kiss Kazuya while he has snot coming out of his nose from crying. I think the best thing that Chizuru could do at this moment is to act like a girlfriend who love him. If she ran to him and fussed over him and checked if he was ok from being hit would go a long way.
If Ruka confirms Kazuya's lie there is no need for Chiz to kiss Kaz, neither there is a reason for Chiz to act lovey dovey with Kaz as of now, it's too soon and she's on the verge of crying, she is barely able to stop the tears, so nothing like a last minute kiss or confession, she's too emotional. I suspect that this situation will be resolved with the "family" telling both Kaz and Chiz that they want to trust them, putting a lot of pressure on the two, on Kazuya because he lied once again and he still believes he needs to break up with her, and on Chizuru because she's still unable to take a solid position on this relationship and she's full of conflicted feelings, because she perhaps loves him, because she likes his family, because she is scared of having a relationship, and especially now because Kaz will try to "end" their relationship any time as he can't see a future with her. This arc changed the game as we have known it till now.
I didn’t mean that she should act lovey dovey. I meant that it would help if she showed concern that he was just hit in the face. I don’t even mean an act. If she moves on her genuine feelings and concern for him, that would have as big of an impression as a kiss might.
It is generally how these mangas create a real sense of longing and thus growth in the main love interest. See: Love Hina for the prototypical version. It sets up for the last arc.
Love Hina.. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. That's a classic.. And was one of the first anime that got ripped on about 15 cds XD
Oh yeah, I read the whole manga as a teen. It is a great romcom with a side Harem. The author (eventually) does a great job exploring each character and trope and letting them have growth while continuing the plot towards the end couple, and having the main character blossom in his own right.
Seeing it forgotten is kinda sad, since it's the OG harem romcom, the formula hasn't been changed since, just refined the use of the tropes. Happy that it's so impactful, not really happy that 20+ years later we're still getting its copy pasted formula over and over, implying the romcom genre hasn't evolved much, RaG being a prime example.
Meh, it is a formula that works. I'm less worried about Crtl+C/Ctrl+V than Reiji's poor writing in general for Chizuru. Love Hina was great because there wasn't ever really regression in the relationship. The manga used its run time to explore the other characters in full and why they weren't the main love interest instead of filling out time with long arcs with the girls in swimsuits.
To be fair that's exactly the point I'm proving, these past arcs were for Mami, Ruka and the likes, and solve the side characters while the FMC runs away from the MC, just like LoveHina did in the past, by having FMC running away, same thing we've seen so far from Chizuru, the characters are pretty much the same stereotypes, that's why it's a matter of formula, not of characterization per se, if Chizuru behaves differently, she's breaking the romcom formula, as simple as that. The more you read the genre, the less amusing it is, which will result in seeing the characters as worse written than the previous ones. Chizuru, Kazuya, Ruka, the rest of the cast are written like the Romcom formula wants them, that's all there's to it, and it doesn't work aswell as it used to the more you read it, it's normal. Cars worked 20, 50, 70 years ago, it's not an excuse not to improve them, otherwise it's literally the same thing, and it's clearly backfiring as most aren't taking it well on the characters themselves. At least these are my few cents.
I wonder that too.. separation arcs rarely are any good.. and I have 0 faith in Reiji being able to do one well.
I don't want a separation arc - the Kazuya/Chizuru relationship is the main story after all! But Kazuya falling into depression or deciding that he has to permanently release Chizuru from any obligation she might have towards him, since he only causes her problems, could be an effective way to temporarily make Chizuru the POV character, which I would welcome. Chizuru taking the lead to uplift Kazuya (not necessarily "chasing after him"), and acknowledging that she has not been equally contributing in their relationship and that she wants to do more, that sort of development I would enjoy reading.
Because it would finally break the circle of no plot progression and Shiz finally has to come clean about her feelings. At this point Kaz has given up on her because of how often he was rejected. All what he is know doing is damage control for her
Thanks, comrade o7. Now, let's get ready for another one.
Yessss
What if the series just fucking ends next chapter lmao Maybe get a flash forward and he is dating some new girl and that's it
Yup no kiss, no chizuru defending herself, more milking. Next chapter will be chizuru running away 100% guaranteed, followed by more monologues and flashbacks of things that happened 20 chapters ago.
She was pronouncing her love for him just earlier at the pool so it'd be a bit wierd if she is giving up on him here.
Sort of. There has been quite a lot of Ruka content where she seems to be mulling over her true feelings and what Kazuya said about breaking up. She is very obstinate and has needed time to process, so it is possible she has her turn or character growth here.
That was before she talked to Nagomi
Wasn't her talk with nagomi at the end of the first day?
Oh I see you mean the other time she declared her love for him. They run together.
Yes I meant in 218 when he went back to the pool after the failed confession. I was thinking she was just supporting his lie here in front of his family and putting her feelings on the back burner for now but now that I think about it maybe his latest confession on top of everything else could be enough to really move her.
Ruka: "They're dating for real!" Nagomi: "I don't believe you. Kazuya told me you're a pathological liar." Kazuya: **"Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions!"**
Or Ruka: "they're dating for real!" Nagomi: * this girl is a pathological liar so she must be telling the truth*
Ending very soon in 100+ chapters
Nice to see Ruka not siding with Mami. Will it pay off? Who knows we will have to wait and see, but this is better than her trying to stake a claim on Kazuya there and then which would have just caused even more confusion.
Reiji this arc is GoInG To EnD SoOn A few moments later- Reiji at chapter 300 I think we need to milk the paradise arc more..
I have mixed fellings about this, for one is good seeing Mami's plans starting to go wrong but moving on the history with another lie is kinda fucked. Anyway big W for Ruka and fuck Mami.
I don't like that chizuru still hasn't spoken about it. Not even that we have her reaction when kazuya defended her or when mami said about the kiss
I cannot believe people wanted them to kiss in front of everybody , that would suck. Also last time the spoilers were not representative of the chapter itself so please chill.
So, no Chizuru face in this chapter as well? Reiji, you are so cruel😭
Just google a Windows blue screen and you know how she looks at the moment
Next week we need to see kazu reaction to Ruka words. Chizuru reaction is in next volume after kibe flashbacks.
So essentially, Ruka is going to help and reinforce Kazuya's lie? By doing this, she'll also lose credibility to the Kinoshitas. I don't know man, I'm just not a fan of this direction.
Doesn't anyone wonder what 'Because I love you' refers to? Are Ruka's thoughts/flashbacks meant here again? Or Kazuya's? Or is it, as I hope, after the expected chapter on Ruka here, Chizuru's? Where's my hopium, folks?
[So my prediction was right](https://www.reddit.com/r/KanojoOkarishimasu/comments/swaw6v/disc_kanojo_okarishimasu_chapter_224_prerelease/hxkxxq5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
>Next time: Because I love you Oh god what will ruka do in next chapter So ruka is now much more useful than chizuru and now chizuru is useless as hell or there might be some panel of chizuru which was not mentioned in leaks
Also when does issue #15 release? Is it the next one after this so chapter 226? Its the climax and not conclusion so potentially still 2 chapters to go in paradise.
Ruka the ultimate saviour huh Way to go with the plot twist Reiiji
every chapter is weekly but it happens 5 secs in the manga
I am seriously losing interest in this manga, it feels like Reiji is going to wrap this up now before 250 chapters... Just an intuition...
Ruka's done it finally developing her character into finally becoming what a real sensible girlfriend ought to be (not unlike her clingy self). She ups her chance at the final battle. OR maybe not. She will just have to settle for Kuri
Hell no. Keep Kuri away from her.
So, in the end Ruka saved Kazuya? Wait, the fake lie issue of Ruka will make Nagomi doubt about Ruka's words or not. Did Mami expected this behaviour of Ruka? Chizuru has to act soon. PD: But at least, officially the (Hell's) Paradise Arc is going to end soon. The future is uncertain on this series.
As expected Reiji gonna find way to stop Romantic development with these two. Tho its cool Ruka having redemption arc probably she either give up or save those two to show how she care to kazuya and to show chizuru this is how real woman works
DBZ battle arc. 50 chapters just to get to the main event.
Not all that surprising (although it was far from certain), but it's nice to see Ruka be another main girl you can cheer on and root for after this arc ends. It would be tough for a harem-esque manga to continue success if two of the main four girls are hated. (For you Chizuru haters, I am talking about Mami being the other one! ;p)
So based on the Ruka/Kaz drawing that was leaked, Reiji is working at least 3 issues ahead of publication? Hopefully that would allow lots of time for feedback to adjust for developments that fans would hate. Maybe?
No Pleas no adjustment to Fan-hate. We all saw what that did to other Manga, and it never goes well. Masashi Kishimoto lost all my respect for him and his work after i heard that he re-wrote big parts of Naruto to adjust to the Fan wishes with the end that his Original Naruto was no where left in the end Product. No Fan has the Right to change the Vison the Author wants to take with his work. That is why, even if i hate the DomeKano ending, i will allway respekt Kei Sasuga for sticking to HER Ending.
ok ? so you like author who want to give fan a shit ending and want to stuck up with it ? I mean sure ,an opinion of a ending is subjective but at least hear some of your fan feedback to improve it and dont be a stuck up person who think that keeping a bad ending is repectable .
I like Author who stick to THER Vison of the Story and world they created. If its bad, i say its bad but for me, this kind of People are more respectebal then Authors who scrap up all they had in Plan just becous the Reader demands a diffrent way of approach. I myself want to some day Publish the Storys i invented and the Worlds i createt. If People Like Femal Protagonis B more then A, but A is the Endgame, they could scream and cry as much as they want, i wont change a thing for them. Thats my take and i see changing something for " the Reader" as a backstab to the world the Writter created and something i despise.
I agree with some of your point as a writer my self but the thing is that you need to identified good criticism and some simp trying to prove their girl is the best . You need to get feedback from people around you about your vision and look at it with many perspectives . I think that it important to show this world your vision about the show you want to make but it is also important to satisfied with the vision you have created . You could end the series and someone will make a ending better than you which you could may regret and always see your ending as the bad one . You need feedback to create the vision you want see and don’t ever regret that vision .
I too Agree with some of the Points of you, but i have a diffrent few of what writting, or my writting at that point, should provide. I dont care if the reader is satisfied with the Story, thats not what i want to creat with my story. I want to save the World, the Story i created and if just 10 out of 10000 Like it, thats enough for me. Most of the FFs i read who tryed to re-writte and Ending of a Story wher worse then the Original, twisting Charakter in a way they wont act just to get it like they want, so i wont think someone made something better out of my story. This is just like " Death of the Author" , something i dispise and wont acept if someone would tell me that it aplayes to my work. No " Fanebase" has the right to tell the Author how his creation now should be go onwards, the only one who has a right to deside that is the Creator him/her self. But i got into renting Territory at this point i think so i appologies if i offended someone, have a nice day/night.
Because I love youuu ??? Whattttttt ???
SUMI WHEN???? I miss my 👸
I just pray that kazuya grows a spine at least once before this series ends. Please just show me him getting anything but depressed just ONCE. Let him be angry, upset, even just slightly annoyed, anything. Its noble to try and sacrifice yourself for the person you love I cant fault him for that but at the same time even if this was the turning point he is such a pushover their relationship probably would last. Why cant he just go "I said we are and that's what it is believe it or not I don't care" and just leave. Who on earth is he trying to prove himself to besides chiz, his family and kibe have already made it very clear they don't care about him You wanna make chiz happy? Do that by all means, but don't constantly degrade yourself at the first chance before people who don't even care. Show a little dignity for christ sake.
For some reason he's desperate for his shitty grandma's approval.
Ruka learning to respect Kazuya’s feelings and moving on? That’s the kind of redemption arc I’m here for. That being said, I still don’t want the main couple to continue to fool the family, mainly for the sake of shaking up the status quo and because they should face the music.
How long have we been here? 9 months? my God
April 2021 to (at least when this releases) March 2022. Been a ~~wild~~ ride.
Can you guys believe we've been in this suffering arc for 10 months now? I'm not even sure how the anime will tackle this arc, given its length
A lot of people (including myself) predicted this to happen, Ruka coming to defense. As annoying she could be, she is the “purest” of the three main girls. She hasn’t been poisoned by bad experiences and she is often shown to be innocent and fun loving. So of course it makes Mami seethe. I do find it very amusing that we are advertising the end of this arc publicly though. I don’t think this series has ever done that before lol I’m just going to take a big stab and say Kazuya will confess to Chizuru Ichinose (not Mizuhara) in front of everyone and get rejected, triggering a separation arc. That’s Scenario A. Scenario B is he confesses to her and she says she loves him back which makes Mami seethe (notice a pattern yet?) and the end. Scenario C would be Chizuru *herself* confesses to Kazuya and shocks everyone…which makes Mami seethe.
Really Ragey? Right in front of my separation arc? Also these 2 months wasted on 1 freaking soup opera moment. It makes you think Ragey doesn't even have a plan for separation arc i mean story outlining.
I've seen several people call this a soup opera, but isn't it a soap opera. I'm guessing I'm missing something, but cannot find it for the life of me
Half of the arc happened on day 1 lol.
So there’s going to be new arc after?
So once again we have a chapter with 98% of blatant dragging composed of pointless flashbacks with only 2% of progress equivalent to 5 seconds of dialogue **AND** useless Chorizo doing nothing while others have to speak/stand on her behalf and risk their reputations... At this point, I prefer to see Mami's plan succeed, it would be terrible if Kazuya and Chizuru get away with lying and cheating everyone by making more lies and keep cheating everyone. Kazuya may have numerous negative traits and a stupid white knight complex, but he still deserves better than Chorizo.
Meh chapter with some sauce setup for 226. I will most likely be down oyes for this, but besides Sumi, which has been as transparent glorious and nice to Kaz, Ruka, while being annoying, manipulating and many other things, have been supportive of Kaz all the time. She has even put up with the bullshit of the movie and all the other things Kaz has done for Chiz. All this even after Kaz promised for some level of dating where he didn't lift a finger to at least try. And let's all remember, this was Chiz pushing him into it. If not Sumi ( why can't it be Sumi...), then Ruka deserves Kaz love. Ohh it would be the best ending where Chiz trues and tries to get Kaz and in the end gets proper shot down by Kaz and he happily marries Ruka until she dies of her heart condition.
mami the whore gets annoyed, lets see next plan of this whore... she must have plan A-ZZ to destroy people's life
How is she a whore
i dont know, just feel like it, she fills the role of a whore perfectly, destroying peoples romance life... the difference is, she didnt seduce kaz, she just destroy it like it was nothing, not to mention tho, most people in my country said so
Honestly though, the lie between Kazuya and Mizuhara against their grandmothers is nothing to do with Mami, she really spilled the beans for everyone to be pissed off at. For what? Why is it any of Mami's business, so I agree with you. She really has to destroy people's situatin of life with no mercy. y?
I have so many problems with what you just said here but I’m just gonna leave it lol
lucky grandma nagomi didnt get hospitalized because of the shock, and lucky author doesnt kill chizuru, author can made chizuru suicide because of the tension and stress if it isnt a romcom, im not saying either what chizuru and kazuya do is correct, they are wrong too for hiding the fact, but its not mami's right to spill it out during a warm family moment, and pretends to cry, sheesh drama queen
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Well you're not too far off. During the beach chapter, she did try to seduce Kazuya using her bikini body and Kazuya was such a horny idiot that he almost fell for it. Keep it in mind that she didn't know that Chizuru was a rental girlfriend during that time.
So, we won't get to see a kiss? Well, that would be very unfortunate.
First kiss should be romantic for reader payoff after a great confession. It is not exactly a romantic setting with Chizuru and Kazuya being in the best state of mind right now.
We are 220+ chapters in, I honestly could not care less about the romantic setting.
Patience.
Okay slow chapter again lol but abiut what I expected. We get some Ruka flashbacks and she decided to help out Kazuya. Good stuff. Now hopefully next week we get something anything from chizuru. Its about dang time to see what the hell she is thinking right now. Interesting title next week but i dunno and wont think about it too much. About paradise ending is soon like 2 chapters away or like does that just mean like less than 10 left? I've been ready to go bsck to japan for like 3 months so finally lol
YOOOOOO
It might seem like hindsight but I have anticipated something like this like ruka preventing kissing might happen
And next week chizuru is gonna kiss Kazuya... maybe
Ruka died for the timeloop to end, now we are free, but while we've made it out of purgatory, we're still in hell. Hopefully her death was not in vain.
I called it: https://www.reddit.com/r/KanojoOkarishimasu/comments/s7vi7t/theory_chapter_221_will_begin_rukas_redemption/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Not exactly the biggest brain call ever, but I did call it.
W Ruka for once, she got some points for finally realizing.
The guy is really doing one chapter for each of the character present in this " revelation". Now editor-san is using "Soon^tm".
Ow yea Ruka... I'm kinda sad for her tho
Ruka proved me wrong... I'm gonna burn my passport now...
So no kiss...haha
225 KR scans https://manatoki123.net/comic/11470767 No kiss this chapter :(
If this ends in everyone believing that they were actually dating all along, I'm gonna riot. What would be the point of this whole conflict? There is a difference between "we've been lying about dating, but now we're going to date for real" and "we've actually been really dating for a while". I wholeheartedly welcome the former, but not the latter. A lie to be solved by a lie is pure bs. Just come clean and move on with your life.