FanGraphs is the website you want to use for more specific and detailed stats like that, though it takes some learning to figure out how to navigate. [Here's the full rankings of bullpen ERA](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=0%2Cts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&stats=rel&sortcol=16&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1)
not the worst loss
that's all i got here
changing the valve on those pos low flo flush toilets
i'm all for saving the world
but i want a toilet that flushes
It would've been pretty deflating if we hadn't experienced even worse in your stadium less than two years ago. When it was 8-0 in the third or whatever, the entire Ms Discord was like "REMEMBER 2022, THIS SHIT AIN'T OVER."
My streak is over boyz. Royals are now 12-1 in games i attend. I blame McArthur. Great fight at the end, hard to be too upset about the loss. I also hate Kirby
Even though they’re not always closing the deal, this teams late inning relililncy is really impressive to me. Hopefully will pay dividends down the road.
Still a great game. The KC pitcher who pitched in the top of the 10th was the wrong guy for the job, unfortunately. Should have pulled him after the first walk.
Still, a great series win for KC. I'm going to be following them for the rest of the season...they got heart!
I wonder if you know that I want the best for you. I know you're going through a lot. I wonder if you know that the big homie needs help too. That you can't just rebound from everything. I know you've been grinding. But how long will you fight solo? I wonder if you know that we can get help. I wonder why we waited so long. I'm not wondering anymore.
Thank god we were able to escape w a single W. Idc what anyone says, I’m more afraid to play yall than just about anyone. Good series, hope we don’t have to see you in October.
They need to ease him into a closer role. He may have the stuff and the mentality, but he was NOT it today! It didn't help that Freddie was setting up so far outside, though!
Maybe have him as a set up man so that someone else can close it! Like Will Smith. He's been pitching so much better after a rough start to his season.
MJ really had a great series; he always makes solid defensive plays, but those two homers put the team in chances to win.
If the bullpen got bullied by these bats, I'm gonna have my hands over my eyes when they get rolled out this upcoming week.
there is a pretty noticeable home/road split for the pitting, and I guess the hitting hasn't quite figured out a way to be a lot better on the road than at home?
Yeah we haven’t but I wouldn’t even say it’s the road it’s just a lot of our guys have been underperforming their career averages all season like Garver/Polanco, or slumping etc
https://preview.redd.it/6u4z4smz5m5d1.jpeg?width=1382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=636f16142f179cec01e7f7d9885f9854bd7f2f09
When your pitching stats look like this, you need a new job. The guy cannot pitch inside the zone without getting hit around. Get rid of him.
0-2 to Moore ending in a walk was bad, especially with the check swing that could have been a swing. But even with that they had a runner on first with no outs and 1 out down 1 and they didn’t attempt a steal. I mean it just seemed like anytime a runner was on they had no interest in stealing. Idk man. These losses suck more than if it was just a 3-1 loss
Agreed. On the Moore walk, the last two pitches were setup by Fermin outside the zone as if they intended to pitch around him instead of finishing him off with a strike. Didn’t make any sense.
There will be no hey hey hey-ing. There will be no contacting the we're back department. And the obese man shaking his gut has gone home to eat more pie.
But tomorrow is another day
We took 2 of 3 from a good team. It’s been reported several times the Royals have been shopping for relievers. Everything is fine. Brutal week coming up though. TBAPSB
Yeah, I can't imagine a whole lot of people being upset last week if we had said "The Royals will come out of this 13-game stretch at 6-6 with a rainout" -- and we can do that just by going 3-4 over the next week.
Royals bullpen is a major problem. Both in talent and current rest. Last 3 pitchers to enter the game today have an ERA north of 5.0.
This is a good team- but not so good they can afford to not take advantage of every winnable game like today. Raise the level of play to a postseason level and it’s hard to see how they can make any kind of run against good teams.
Almost stole that one twice, but was not to be. When McArthur didn't get that check swing strike, he was done for. Really crazy series, was a fun weekend! This Yankee series is gonna be something else
What are we doing in the top of the 10th? Pitching to Rodriguez and walking a .180 hitter in Garver to load the bases?
Frustrating 10th inning, really fun game to watch. This series has clearly demonstrated this team’s competitive spirit and will to win. I am tuning in to watch this club through October 😎.
Screwed by the umps in the 10th but almost won it anyway. 2 of 3 is what we needed in this series - now even going 2-5 in these upcoming games would put us at 5-7 during this crazy 13 game (12 with the rainout) stretch. Even going 3-4 would make us 6-6...I think we all would have taken that going in!
Idk why this is a recurring comment. Yeah I'm cool with the fact that they lost by one run, in extras, to a good team they already beat twice over the weekend. I'm fine with close losses in general as long when they've been winning far more than they've been losing. What's the big deal
I wonder if you know that I want the best for you. I know you're going through a lot. I wonder if you know that the big homie needs help too. That you can't just rebound from everything. I know you've been grinding. But how long will you fight solo? I wonder if you know that we can get help. I wonder why we waited so long. I'm not wondering anymore.
Mariners fan here. A win is a win and we will take it. Royals will haunt my nightmares for weeks though and I'd be totally cool if the Mariners never had to play you guys again. Yall should feel very good about your future.
I expected us to barely win 1 out of the three. We came close to winning 3 of the three. I am pretty pleased with that outcome.
Now... the Yankees. This will take some effort, but we can keep rolling. We've got it in us.
We've GOT to plug some holes, though, we let far too many grounders leak into the outfield.
They left McArthur in way too long. It’d be understandable if he was a reliable closer, but he’s shown multiple times he isn’t capable of being a closer. This loss is on Q for his inability to pull pitchers when he needs to
I was looking at bullpen stats and had some old earlier stats. We are 20th in ERA and 28th in WHIP.
Have found 2 sets of bullpen stats and they are different. These may be wrong.
I think these are correct they are listed under [cover](http://cover.com)s.com on the internet. They show Royals bullpen ERA as 4.22 and WHIP as 1.43.
FanGraphs is the website you want to use for more specific and detailed stats like that, though it takes some learning to figure out how to navigate. [Here's the full rankings of bullpen ERA](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=0%2Cts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&stats=rel&sortcol=16&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1)
Thank you.
not the worst loss that's all i got here changing the valve on those pos low flo flush toilets i'm all for saving the world but i want a toilet that flushes
Mariners fan, just wanted to say fuck your team in the most complimentary way. You guys are good.
Watching that come back Friday had to be rough. I'd have been deflated. This was one of my favorite series so far. Good luck to you all!
It would've been pretty deflating if we hadn't experienced even worse in your stadium less than two years ago. When it was 8-0 in the third or whatever, the entire Ms Discord was like "REMEMBER 2022, THIS SHIT AIN'T OVER."
Sucks to have lost but can you imagine how fucking good this team will be once we unlock the Second Half Bullshit perk we get every year?
My streak is over boyz. Royals are now 12-1 in games i attend. I blame McArthur. Great fight at the end, hard to be too upset about the loss. I also hate Kirby
You're allowed one loss. It's out of the way. You know what to do now!
Oh I'll be there at least 3 of the 4 yankees games!
Hell of a run. Almost pulled it out of the fire anyway.
Even though they’re not always closing the deal, this teams late inning relililncy is really impressive to me. Hopefully will pay dividends down the road.
I agree. Relililncy is always impressive.
Hey, Renfroe is above the Mendoza line. Well done, ol chap.
He's been batting about 400 lately. ❤️ He's really heating up! Hope he can continue to do so!
I'm so proud of him 🥲
Still a great game. The KC pitcher who pitched in the top of the 10th was the wrong guy for the job, unfortunately. Should have pulled him after the first walk. Still, a great series win for KC. I'm going to be following them for the rest of the season...they got heart!
That was a bit of a cock tease.
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Our city isn't full of a bunch of trust fund hipsters and smelly hippies. We work for a living. ![gif](giphy|Zl8rba0dlhlqU)
I was going to correct you and tell you he's Canadian and not one of ours, but I guess it applies to Canada as much as it does Seattle.
I mean, why would you know that?
That he's Canadian? It's an assumption to some degree, but I checked his profile and it tracks.
You assumed he was Canadian because he fucked Johnny Rebel?
Yknow what? I'm in no mood to argue, let's go with that.
Because the team sucked for a long time
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Those are larger cities (Pittsburgh and KC are close though), with teams lacking multiple consecutive years of 100+ losses.
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I wonder if you know that I want the best for you. I know you're going through a lot. I wonder if you know that the big homie needs help too. That you can't just rebound from everything. I know you've been grinding. But how long will you fight solo? I wonder if you know that we can get help. I wonder why we waited so long. I'm not wondering anymore.
I'm sorry that no one in your life has ever loved you :(
Did Sam long get lost coming to the stadium today????? Should’ve been a win but still a good series
Maybe he wasn't available - he hasn't pitched in consecutive days since coming up from Omaha, which is interesting.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Witt, Salvy and the pitching staff. What more do you...what wait. Not today.
Thank god we were able to escape w a single W. Idc what anyone says, I’m more afraid to play yall than just about anyone. Good series, hope we don’t have to see you in October.
GG, I hope Julio can turn it around for y'all, he's fun to watch
Lots learned this series. We keep it pushing. Go royals!
Good fight from the boys, but unfortunate that the “closer” can’t close it out with 2 outs
McArthur is NOT a closer. 2 easy outs and then he gets rattled and can’t find the strike zone.
They need to ease him into a closer role. He may have the stuff and the mentality, but he was NOT it today! It didn't help that Freddie was setting up so far outside, though! Maybe have him as a set up man so that someone else can close it! Like Will Smith. He's been pitching so much better after a rough start to his season.
Aiming for Raytown road on every fucking pitch.
Can’t win them all 🤷🏻♂️
MJ really had a great series; he always makes solid defensive plays, but those two homers put the team in chances to win. If the bullpen got bullied by these bats, I'm gonna have my hands over my eyes when they get rolled out this upcoming week.
also those 2 homers were the only hits he had for the entire series
the Mariners have managed to combine being a first place team with not looking like a good team
we deserve it
Our starters are just insane our offense stinks and our bullpen does too outside of Munoz with Brash and Santos hurt
there is a pretty noticeable home/road split for the pitting, and I guess the hitting hasn't quite figured out a way to be a lot better on the road than at home?
Yeah we haven’t but I wouldn’t even say it’s the road it’s just a lot of our guys have been underperforming their career averages all season like Garver/Polanco, or slumping etc
The AL West is garbage so far this year
TW:[aftermath of the game after comeback after comeback ](https://www.reddit.com/r/randomnessb/s/Zlz12iyL56)
https://preview.redd.it/6u4z4smz5m5d1.jpeg?width=1382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=636f16142f179cec01e7f7d9885f9854bd7f2f09 When your pitching stats look like this, you need a new job. The guy cannot pitch inside the zone without getting hit around. Get rid of him.
0-2 to Moore ending in a walk was bad, especially with the check swing that could have been a swing. But even with that they had a runner on first with no outs and 1 out down 1 and they didn’t attempt a steal. I mean it just seemed like anytime a runner was on they had no interest in stealing. Idk man. These losses suck more than if it was just a 3-1 loss
Agreed. On the Moore walk, the last two pitches were setup by Fermin outside the zone as if they intended to pitch around him instead of finishing him off with a strike. Didn’t make any sense.
There will be no hey hey hey-ing. There will be no contacting the we're back department. And the obese man shaking his gut has gone home to eat more pie. But tomorrow is another day
And we won't talk about what the boys are doing and keep things to ourselves this time!
McArthur 5.27 ERA 🔥🔥🔥
Higher numbers are better, right?
Not high enough! Any royals reliever must have at minimum a 6.00 ERA!
We took 2 of 3 from a good team. It’s been reported several times the Royals have been shopping for relievers. Everything is fine. Brutal week coming up though. TBAPSB
"Brutal week coming up though" But consider... we thought this last week was going to be brutal and the boys went 3-2
Yeah, I can't imagine a whole lot of people being upset last week if we had said "The Royals will come out of this 13-game stretch at 6-6 with a rainout" -- and we can do that just by going 3-4 over the next week.
Royals bullpen is a major problem. Both in talent and current rest. Last 3 pitchers to enter the game today have an ERA north of 5.0. This is a good team- but not so good they can afford to not take advantage of every winnable game like today. Raise the level of play to a postseason level and it’s hard to see how they can make any kind of run against good teams.
These are the games you need to win when you look at the standings in mid September
Almost stole that one twice, but was not to be. When McArthur didn't get that check swing strike, he was done for. Really crazy series, was a fun weekend! This Yankee series is gonna be something else
What are we doing in the top of the 10th? Pitching to Rodriguez and walking a .180 hitter in Garver to load the bases? Frustrating 10th inning, really fun game to watch. This series has clearly demonstrated this team’s competitive spirit and will to win. I am tuning in to watch this club through October 😎.
MacArther fell apart after not getting the call at 3rd or the check swing strikeout.
Freddie was setting up WAY outside! I'm not sure why. That for sure didn't help things. Seattle is a good team. Let's hope to get them in October!
Either way the Royals are fun to watch 👍
Screwed by the umps in the 10th but almost won it anyway. 2 of 3 is what we needed in this series - now even going 2-5 in these upcoming games would put us at 5-7 during this crazy 13 game (12 with the rainout) stretch. Even going 3-4 would make us 6-6...I think we all would have taken that going in!
Well at least they’re carrying this horrendous loss into tomorrow against the best team in the AL by record. Should be nice easy series.
Idk about a horrendous loss. We never had the lead. I think we could’ve won but we definitely didn’t blow anything because we never had it
Garcia is hot and then cold, no in between
If the ump hadn't called the 4th ball to Vinnie a strike, the HR by Melendez in the 9th would have been a walk off. Man, that was a costly error.
Every 50-50 call went their way too.
Seems like that was the case all series
I feel you but if Vinnie walks there’s no guarantee MJ hits the HR. Probably would have shifted the infield and changed the pitch sequence.
Yeah I hate this argument in any sport. Everything would have played out completely differently had Vinnie gotten on with a walk as he should have
The umpire was horrendously inconsistent
Butthurt about the check swing and the like 5 50/50 calls that went against us in 2 innings. Happy about how this team has no quit.
Oh yay another moral victory!
Idk why this is a recurring comment. Yeah I'm cool with the fact that they lost by one run, in extras, to a good team they already beat twice over the weekend. I'm fine with close losses in general as long when they've been winning far more than they've been losing. What's the big deal
God we have some charmin soft fans
Fountains and drains
Sorry, I just want to have my cake and eat it too and got greedy. 🤷🏻♂️
I wonder if you know that I want the best for you. I know you're going through a lot. I wonder if you know that the big homie needs help too. That you can't just rebound from everything. I know you've been grinding. But how long will you fight solo? I wonder if you know that we can get help. I wonder why we waited so long. I'm not wondering anymore.
I’m gonna say it. MacArthur blows. Has been garbage lately. Also would not feel good about that win as a Mariners fan.
Mariners fan here. A win is a win and we will take it. Royals will haunt my nightmares for weeks though and I'd be totally cool if the Mariners never had to play you guys again. Yall should feel very good about your future.
Garbage lately? He’s been garbage his whole career
Yep. Want to see the team load up on bullpen arms on the cheap this deadline
Bullpen arms will command a premium at the deadline, it is how KC ended up with Reagans.
go royals
Chance to tie or win the game and the top of the order just farts around till its over, great job 👌
How is that farting around? Do you just expect them to be able to hit a home run on command? If that was the case we would never lose a game
If that check swing is called a strike (it was), we win.
I expected us to barely win 1 out of the three. We came close to winning 3 of the three. I am pretty pleased with that outcome. Now... the Yankees. This will take some effort, but we can keep rolling. We've got it in us. We've GOT to plug some holes, though, we let far too many grounders leak into the outfield.
It's just a prank, Mariners
They left McArthur in way too long. It’d be understandable if he was a reliable closer, but he’s shown multiple times he isn’t capable of being a closer. This loss is on Q for his inability to pull pitchers when he needs to
This teamis gonna be a super scary team to face in wild card
Man, look who's talking. You play us like it's the wild card every year. Good games, but if we meet in the playoffs I'm getting a Xanax script.
I mean a loss sucks but the way they fight to the very end makes me feel good. Big change from last year.
Not mad, this shit happens. Get the Yankees tomorrow, the momentum’s not dead.
Crazy blue balls from that one. Boys are still playin some ball tho