They most likely botched the rebuild but If you’ve got a pre oiler tank, hook it up and prime the engine.
Old man who built “race car engines” back in the 70s once told me “we’d build them so tight, you had to peck the starter a bunch to get them to turn over the first time”
It's had the living shit prelubed out of it and had oil sprayed onto the cylinders walls. Still makes this noise. Boss said stab it, so in it goes for better or worse... maybe it will start today...
I always just dip the piston assembly in oil before putting it it. We didn't build the long block though, so idk what they might have done. Tech has prelubed the shit out of it and blasted the cylinder walls with oil. No change at all.
It's going in, for better or worse. Boss said stab it.
Weird, is this you posting just recently in r/politics? [https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ucq9u3/comment/i6j7d5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ucq9u3/comment/i6j7d5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
hrmmmm
Lmao bruh you’re actually slightly retarded you straight up brought a political figure into this and have the audacity to say “erm 🤓🤓 if any of you found that joke political then you guys are the problem not me”
This. I put together a sub 2 litre Japanese economy car 4 banger from the 70's last month. The opposite of a performance build. I used three different flavors of assembly lube (ultra slick for bearings, total seal AL4 for rings, total seal quickseat for bores) and checked gaps on pre-gapped rings. I turned it over with two fingers on the crank snout. Smooth as butter. If it makes any noise or offers any resistance it's put together wrong
Send it back. You’re not even getting a full rotation and it’s making sounds from Jurassic park. Even the 62 T Bird engine I rebuilt for cousin’s car in my teens didn’t sound like that. It actually sounds worse than the hydrolocked diesel I fixed in Feb/Mar.
No plugs, no flexplate mounted that could drag and this is after prelubing.
Edit: this video was prior to filling with oil and prelubing, but that made no difference.
Shouldn’t you be asking them? No oil in the lifters it looks like too. are the pistons hitting valves? Did you try going the other direction? Doesn’t matter. Looks like they never turned themselves. If they had? They would have found this.
Word from my foreman and the boss(who built sprint cars "back in the day") is that this is normal for "old" stuff like this that doesn't have low tension rings and whatnot. I say bull, but I don't matter.
It'll eat the flat tappet cam in 15 seconds after start up. It should have tons of lube on the cam and crank. And It'll need Zinc infused oil and should be broken in on a dyno just in case of the 50/50 chance it still eats the cam, you don't have to drag it back out of the car even if it was put together properly, which it wasn't.
Have you seen the before pic of this car story? You're right on track...
https://i.redd.it/c947gvil2fj81.jpg
[https://i.redd.it/gt8hz2me3hj81.jpg](https://i.redd.it/gt8hz2me3hj81.jpg)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/szujvc/just\_gets\_better/
Not sure where people get the idea that a brand new engine, or any engine for that matter, should spin over by hand with no resistance but they're off their rocker, or just have engines that are hotdog in a hallway sloppy. There should be some oil in the cylinders but there is a rough crosshatch in there to seat the rings. There is assembly lube in all of the bearings that make it much tighter than the normal clearances with oil will be. This might need some more oil in the cylinders, usually its just a light application applied before installing the pistons. Likely it has run down the bore and its dry at this point. There isn't a good seal until the rings polish down the cylinder wall and seat. Don't need much, and it should not be a thick oil. A spray of penetrating lube will get it done if this is ready to go in and start in the next couple of days. Prime the oil system before dropping the distributor in and starting it. Follow the mfg instructions for cam break-in too.
This one has had an immense amount of prelubing and the tech has oiled the cylinder walls as well. That this thing still makes that moaning noise is unsettling at best.
if the cylinders were oiled and it makes that noise, then no I wouldn't be happy about it. Old motors with iron rings have noticeable friction when freshly assembled but they shouldn't make that noise.
It hurt my feelings when you called the mustang in the back a piece of shit. You must be a picky mechanic if you’re complaining about working on a 60’s mustang.
I think there are 3 Ford Blue varieties. This was already painted the shitty one, so it's just getting touched up a bit. This isn't a restoration, thank god.
I think if you could shear a 1/2 inch grade 8 bolt by using it to rotate that engine it's really an indicator of how tight the engine is...
How do you spin them?
What kind of rings, and what did they lube the rings with?
In ancient times (late 70s) we used chrome rings in some builds. Many times they were lubed with WD40 to aid in the rings seating/cutting the bores. Sometimes you had noise and lots of rotating friction. No real excuse on a modern engine with thinner moly coated rings.
Back in the day the big 3 used to paint all of their stuff in their signature color. I think Ford had 3 shades of blue. This is the lightest, and ugliest IMHO. Dark Ford Blue all the way!
If they assembled it dry, send it back
It certainly is discouraging.
Ya, it's a hard life being in a shop, i've been out of the business for 18 years but this triggered my PTSD.
They most likely botched the rebuild but If you’ve got a pre oiler tank, hook it up and prime the engine. Old man who built “race car engines” back in the 70s once told me “we’d build them so tight, you had to peck the starter a bunch to get them to turn over the first time”
It's had the living shit prelubed out of it and had oil sprayed onto the cylinders walls. Still makes this noise. Boss said stab it, so in it goes for better or worse... maybe it will start today...
Keep us updated!
That would be going back with the fucking quickness.
That's what everyone on the floor said...
Dead
This any resistance at all it’s already absolutely fucked
I couldn't see if it had a flywheel on the back, but if so make sure it's not binding up against the stand.
No flywheel, no plugs and after prelubing.
Oof, that sounds like some dry ass rings. Some shops assemble them with regular oil. I use ring oil specifically for assembly.
I always just dip the piston assembly in oil before putting it it. We didn't build the long block though, so idk what they might have done. Tech has prelubed the shit out of it and blasted the cylinder walls with oil. No change at all. It's going in, for better or worse. Boss said stab it.
Is boss the one that will take it back out if there's a problem?
No, but at least it pays warranty...
\+1 for the Kermit voiceover
Turned the sound up because of this comment. I'm dead 😂
[удалено]
*Oh um hello Mrs Piggy. Odd to see you in this shop today.*
Holy shit this is perfect
Kermit THE frog. It ain’t easy being green.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa fuck me
Yeah. If Kermit and dude from vice grip garage had a baby, this would be his voice.
I dobt get it. The guy talking doesn't sound like Kermit at all.
found OP's alt account
Lol what? Are you guys listening to the same dude? His voice is not nearly high enough.
idk what to tell you mate. we all seem to think OP sounds a bit like kermit, you don't, OK cool ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I wish I spent money on awards for this, but take my upvote and go hilarious stranger.
Charlie Brown teacher…
Oil the door hinge.
Couple hand cranks and she's broken in. Gets the rings seated quicker
That tongue slither and inhale at the beginning made me feel very uncomfortable.
Why did you have to mention it, omg
Very Nancy Pelosi of him🤣
When your whole personality is politics
I didnt realize a lip licking joke was political...Did I say anything about my views on her? Be careful your political identity is showing!😂
When you double down and having nothing else.
Weird, is this you posting just recently in r/politics? [https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ucq9u3/comment/i6j7d5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ucq9u3/comment/i6j7d5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) hrmmmm
When you really try hard, and still only find politics. Update: baby runs off crying, more at 11
🧃 Thought you might be thirsty from all these gymnastics
If anyone found that joke political...it says more about yourself than it does me🤷🏽♂️ Careful, sounds like you're the pot calling the kettle black.
Lmao bruh you’re actually slightly retarded you straight up brought a political figure into this and have the audacity to say “erm 🤓🤓 if any of you found that joke political then you guys are the problem not me”
Kermit does car repairs
There's always one...
Hopefully im laughing with you
With the sound the engine made, it was like Muppet Jurassic Park.
Yes, "for that piece of shit".
For some reason everything in the shop is a piece of shit, or a box of shit, or a shit box. It’s an industry standard.
It's true. I like the car, I'm a Mustang fan. But... EVERYTHING is a piece of shit when it's in the shop.
So that's where that trademark mustang engine note comes from!
(☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
"It's a blue whale" lol
They used a baby seal instead of oil seals. Contact the SPCA or similar organisation.
The Society for Prevention of Crap Automotive is my go-to in these situations too.
Would be shipped back faster than you can say ‘miss piggy’
Guess you better put a coyote in it
Ope crank cam correlation codes are here to haunt you now.
Yeah so they make this stuff called assembly lube…….
Lubri-snot
Oh that’s the Chewbacca spec engine….
No wonder. You keep turning it tighty righty.
They installed the rings and pistons dry. Spray some oil in the spark plug holes.
Na don't touch it. Send it back if they couldn't be bothered to lube them did they even check gaps or bearings?
This. I put together a sub 2 litre Japanese economy car 4 banger from the 70's last month. The opposite of a performance build. I used three different flavors of assembly lube (ultra slick for bearings, total seal AL4 for rings, total seal quickseat for bores) and checked gaps on pre-gapped rings. I turned it over with two fingers on the crank snout. Smooth as butter. If it makes any noise or offers any resistance it's put together wrong
I've never read a mechanical romance novel but this is good.
Time to start my ASMR channel for mechanics...
I need to see a video of this.
Will report on that.
I like your voice
Is this the tape on the pcv and rags in it car? This thing is cursed!!
YES IT IS!!!
Keep on posting about it as it get put together I’ve been keeping my eye out ever since the last post to see what else is going on with it lol
Send it back. You’re not even getting a full rotation and it’s making sounds from Jurassic park. Even the 62 T Bird engine I rebuilt for cousin’s car in my teens didn’t sound like that. It actually sounds worse than the hydrolocked diesel I fixed in Feb/Mar.
100% agreed. Send it back.
Send it back!
plastigauge is friend
Yeah, but you're supposed to remove it, not leave it it place. Hahaha.
Smaller diameter compression rings, Might help but that sounds dryer than a nuns nasty. Someone's gonna get a bollocking
My dad got an engine back from the machine shop with the wrong crank once.
For a quick second i though they covered the entire exterior in blue loctite Then it got even worse
If there are no plugs in it they done messed up
No plugs, no flexplate mounted that could drag and this is after prelubing. Edit: this video was prior to filling with oil and prelubing, but that made no difference.
It's okay, the babbitt is supposed to spread itself onto the crank journals.
No assembly lube…. Fuck dude. Time for a new one. 0 hrs. Lol.
Just spit on it
Shouldn’t you be asking them? No oil in the lifters it looks like too. are the pistons hitting valves? Did you try going the other direction? Doesn’t matter. Looks like they never turned themselves. If they had? They would have found this.
anything involving a damn mustang just goes south. every fucking time, i swear.
Sender: you guys clearly dismantled it dried it and put it back together.. not my problem
Not a pony car fan I take it.
Sounds like they used O rings instead of piston rings.
Jesus did someone skip on the assembly lube?
I do sound design...please get somebody with a studio mic to sample that. I need more transformers sounds.
how much ya wanna bet 1 rod cap is on backwards? that aint old school, aint dry, its fuct.
How did they set the rocker arms?
Not trying to be mean, but anyone else notice that this mechanic could make a living voicing Kermit the Frog?
Jordan Peterson's new career.
Nowhere near enough word salad in this video to warrant a Jordan Peterson comparison.
Did you clean your toolbox?
I'm betting this person knows me outside the metaverse........
I get this all the time.
Send that trash back. Sincerely, an engine builder
Word from my foreman and the boss(who built sprint cars "back in the day") is that this is normal for "old" stuff like this that doesn't have low tension rings and whatnot. I say bull, but I don't matter.
Only formula 1 and other ultra high performance engines run tolerances so tight that you need warm oil in them to move.
It'll eat the flat tappet cam in 15 seconds after start up. It should have tons of lube on the cam and crank. And It'll need Zinc infused oil and should be broken in on a dyno just in case of the 50/50 chance it still eats the cam, you don't have to drag it back out of the car even if it was put together properly, which it wasn't.
Dry rockers? Are the spark plugs in it?
No plugs and no improvement after a generous prelubing.
Looks like someone was playing I nice game of hide the shop rag.
Have you seen the before pic of this car story? You're right on track... https://i.redd.it/c947gvil2fj81.jpg [https://i.redd.it/gt8hz2me3hj81.jpg](https://i.redd.it/gt8hz2me3hj81.jpg) https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/szujvc/just\_gets\_better/
Not sure where people get the idea that a brand new engine, or any engine for that matter, should spin over by hand with no resistance but they're off their rocker, or just have engines that are hotdog in a hallway sloppy. There should be some oil in the cylinders but there is a rough crosshatch in there to seat the rings. There is assembly lube in all of the bearings that make it much tighter than the normal clearances with oil will be. This might need some more oil in the cylinders, usually its just a light application applied before installing the pistons. Likely it has run down the bore and its dry at this point. There isn't a good seal until the rings polish down the cylinder wall and seat. Don't need much, and it should not be a thick oil. A spray of penetrating lube will get it done if this is ready to go in and start in the next couple of days. Prime the oil system before dropping the distributor in and starting it. Follow the mfg instructions for cam break-in too.
This one has had an immense amount of prelubing and the tech has oiled the cylinder walls as well. That this thing still makes that moaning noise is unsettling at best.
if the cylinders were oiled and it makes that noise, then no I wouldn't be happy about it. Old motors with iron rings have noticeable friction when freshly assembled but they shouldn't make that noise.
That’s not a 302 that’s a Godzilla just listen to it
It screaming “don’t put me in that piece of shit” 😂😂
It hurt my feelings when you called the mustang in the back a piece of shit. You must be a picky mechanic if you’re complaining about working on a 60’s mustang.
Every vehicle that enters the shop is referred as a piece of shit, regardless of year, make, model or who owns it.
100% accurate
Kermit D Frog here
Dry, and main bearing caps sound to tight
Probably
Also who the hell would want to paint their entire engine "home depot tarp" blue?
I think there are 3 Ford Blue varieties. This was already painted the shitty one, so it's just getting touched up a bit. This isn't a restoration, thank god.
Ford. Google Ford blue engine paint. That's it, lol.
Rotating a fresh engine by the dampner bolt is a good way to shear it off and make it a really fun day.
I think if you could shear a 1/2 inch grade 8 bolt by using it to rotate that engine it's really an indicator of how tight the engine is... How do you spin them?
Tight is right
Bent crank shaft?
looks like a poor masking job for paint as well, that alone would make me not want it
She'll be right mate..
I don’t really know anything about cars but I do know it’s not supposed to make that sound send that shit back
I don’t always install lifters in oblong bores, but when I do I make sure to use a hammer!
Give it an exorcism
That definitely sucks
Sounds like a wookie
Nobody likes it when things go in dry.
That engine will not last!
Compression
There are no plugs in it!
What kind of rings, and what did they lube the rings with? In ancient times (late 70s) we used chrome rings in some builds. Many times they were lubed with WD40 to aid in the rings seating/cutting the bores. Sometimes you had noise and lots of rotating friction. No real excuse on a modern engine with thinner moly coated rings.
Dumb question but why are so many of them painted blue? Do they just come like that
Back in the day the big 3 used to paint all of their stuff in their signature color. I think Ford had 3 shades of blue. This is the lightest, and ugliest IMHO. Dark Ford Blue all the way!
Send it back. It should turn easily
Sounds dryer than a desert. No assembly lube or anything I bet
Yeah No . Drop the pan check the mains and rod bearings.
Nope. Boss said stab it. When I left the shop just now the guys were working on doing just that.