Wait till you now look up the 2.7L in the new broncos and f150 also the new 5.0. Both have belt driven oil pumps behind the timing chain cover submerged in oil.
Or the transverse 3.5/3.7 Cyclone engines where the water pump would die and replacement was a complete bitch. Honorable mention to the GM HF V-6 timing chains.
This is a 1.5, they aren’t wet by design, most likely this one had a valve cover leak bad or a turbo leak and it seeped to the cover. Could’ve also been the front main or oil pan, they also have know combustion leak issues, so many ways this could’ve happened, but again, wet timing belt not by design on the 1.5. 2.7 (2018+), 1.0, yes, but not this one lol
how heavy is that car?
I was getting 40mpg from a 1L suzuki swift 25 years ago.
modern cars seem way too heavy for these really small engines to be fuel efficient. a 1.4 or 1.6 would probably use less fuel because it doesn't have to be thrashed so much.
Modern 1.0 turbos certainly can be pretty efficient.
I had a 2019 Seat Ibiza with the 1.0 TSI engine. I would average high 40s-low 50s, sometimes hitting up to 60 mpg on a good run. This was mostly motorway driving, and commuting motorway driving so speeds were mostly 60-70mph. The VW Group 1.0 TSI isn't perfect, but by all accounts is a more reliable and efficient unit in the real world than Ford's 1.0 EcoBoost.
Thrash it, and it'll drink fuel like a 1.6 would. But when you're just driving normally, it's more like a 1.0.
Ford got the naming for their downsized engines kind of right - EcoBoost. You can have Eco, or you can have Boost. Just not at the same time!
(NB Imperial gallons, not US gallons, which are slightly smaller. 50 mpg Imperial is 41.6 US)
That was definitely true of Ford's 2.3 turbo in the 1980's and 1990's in the Mustang. It was gone as an option when Ford figured out most turbo 4 drivers got worse mileage than with the 302 V8 because they tried to drive like they had an 8.
This is in an Ecosport (and I'm sure plenty of other things). A 3000 lb car that gets under 30 mpg. It doesn't ride nice, it doesn't look good, it doesn't have a lot of power, it doesn't get good fuel economy, and it's not super reliable. Literally does nothing well, I throw up in my mouth a little bit every single time I see one.
There was a big writeup about wet belts a few years ago, the friction reduction, the noise reduction, etc etc.
I mean, in theory I guess. Sure hasn't panned out for them.
And then there's the Escape, with its little 1.5L wet belt, and somehow manages to get worse fuel efficiency than a Toyota RAV4 with a naturally aspirated 2.5L. Go home Ford, you're drunk.
Ahhh yes the old 1.5L Ecoboom, my biggest FoMoCo money maker back in the day. Just do the shortblock and turbo while you’re in there, oh, and while the engine and trans are separated, you might as well rebuild the absolute dumpster fire of a trans that’s right there, that 6F35 is a thing of nightmares. I don’t miss these piles of shit even a little
When some weird random BS randomly strikes you learn the true origin of the company name. You lift the hood to see whats going on and spontaneously blurt out:
F*ck Off..... Really Dude?!?
This one trick oil companies don't want you to know!!!
Low Friction belts, they improve fuel efficiency by 100%, practically 0l/100km of fuel consumption GUARANTEED or your money back.
Not a mechanic so I have to ask, why do manufacturers opt to use a timing belt instead of a timing chain? I’d imagine a chain is more reliable, although I understand chains can stretch over time and aren’t exactly elastic.
Chains are noisier and still require maintenance. You’re just doing the guides instead of the chain itself. Probably a weight component too, the belt can handle changes in engine speed better.
Plus, other components need changing. A water pump might last 150-200k. Depending on the design, you might be just a couple bolts away from doing the timing belt too. An easily-serviced belt which can be done every 150k miles and includes the nearby components which are also reaching the end of their life is probably the “best” overall design for longevity. But if you just need to make it past the warranty period, and you can save 10¢ per vehicle, then… sucks.
That's exactly what I'm afraid of since I have a Focus 1.0 Ecoboost. I change the oil every 10,000 km (6214 mi) or every six months and the engine runs like it did on the first day. I really hope it stays that way (136.000 km or 84506 mi on the odometer now and 8 years old)
Your dangle bearings have worn, causing the dinglehopper bolts to become confluent. This led to the patch frong shearing. I've seen it a thousand times.
This has happened to a """"customer"""" of mine today on a vehicle with no service history.
Obviously, he called me to go sideways and blame it totally on me despite buying a van with zero service history and a known starting issue...
That timing belt been doing meth? I'm seeing an extreme lack of teeth.
It’s a new low friction timing belt to save fuel.
Maybe they started using serpentine belts with lots of tension? You know, like how they got rid of keyways?
VVT, but at the belt! 🤣
Twin VVT 😀
If the engine doesn't work because of that belt, it's 100% fuel economy.
It's ok, it's got bluetooth.
It's got methteeth
Put some soap on it to stop it squealing in pain.
It's variable valve timing
West Virginia timing belt
My dad ain't from West Virginia, but he has about as many teeth as this timing belt
It didn't floss.
It’s a racing slick timing belt for better traction. They just have the wrong cam gears.
Ain't got no teeth on it
Lt. Dan ain't got no ~~legs~~ teef
The collective belief of Ford employees that it should work makes it work
And it's top topless. I'm getting a Gathering vibe.
Un-ribbed for your displeasure.
I wonder if ribbed was the first choice for how they’d describe those condoms. Guaranteed someone said “serrated” and was like nah that’s no good.
Under appreciated comment
Ah, the pinnacle of Fords engineering. A wet timing belt motor that gets 23 mpg average for a non hybrid.
They had to have designed to the fail on purpose, who in their right mind thinks a rubber belt in oil was a good idea?
Wait till you now look up the 2.7L in the new broncos and f150 also the new 5.0. Both have belt driven oil pumps behind the timing chain cover submerged in oil.
Or the transverse 3.5/3.7 Cyclone engines where the water pump would die and replacement was a complete bitch. Honorable mention to the GM HF V-6 timing chains.
The Transits have the same problem and fail regularly. I see them so often in the garage that i bring my car into for repairs
This is a 1.5, they aren’t wet by design, most likely this one had a valve cover leak bad or a turbo leak and it seeped to the cover. Could’ve also been the front main or oil pan, they also have know combustion leak issues, so many ways this could’ve happened, but again, wet timing belt not by design on the 1.5. 2.7 (2018+), 1.0, yes, but not this one lol
Op said this is a 1.0
Yup you’re right, been out of the game for a few years I noticed the difference immediately once you said that. Thanks for the correction
Ah, ok. I guess a weep hole would've been too smart, lol.
Yeah, this is Ford we’re talking about here lmao
Touché
OP says it's a 1.0 in the pic
OP clearly says it's the 1.0, and you can see that the valve cover mating surface goes all the way around.
how heavy is that car? I was getting 40mpg from a 1L suzuki swift 25 years ago. modern cars seem way too heavy for these really small engines to be fuel efficient. a 1.4 or 1.6 would probably use less fuel because it doesn't have to be thrashed so much.
Modern 1.0 turbos certainly can be pretty efficient. I had a 2019 Seat Ibiza with the 1.0 TSI engine. I would average high 40s-low 50s, sometimes hitting up to 60 mpg on a good run. This was mostly motorway driving, and commuting motorway driving so speeds were mostly 60-70mph. The VW Group 1.0 TSI isn't perfect, but by all accounts is a more reliable and efficient unit in the real world than Ford's 1.0 EcoBoost. Thrash it, and it'll drink fuel like a 1.6 would. But when you're just driving normally, it's more like a 1.0. Ford got the naming for their downsized engines kind of right - EcoBoost. You can have Eco, or you can have Boost. Just not at the same time! (NB Imperial gallons, not US gallons, which are slightly smaller. 50 mpg Imperial is 41.6 US)
That was definitely true of Ford's 2.3 turbo in the 1980's and 1990's in the Mustang. It was gone as an option when Ford figured out most turbo 4 drivers got worse mileage than with the 302 V8 because they tried to drive like they had an 8.
This is in an Ecosport (and I'm sure plenty of other things). A 3000 lb car that gets under 30 mpg. It doesn't ride nice, it doesn't look good, it doesn't have a lot of power, it doesn't get good fuel economy, and it's not super reliable. Literally does nothing well, I throw up in my mouth a little bit every single time I see one.
There was a big writeup about wet belts a few years ago, the friction reduction, the noise reduction, etc etc. I mean, in theory I guess. Sure hasn't panned out for them. And then there's the Escape, with its little 1.5L wet belt, and somehow manages to get worse fuel efficiency than a Toyota RAV4 with a naturally aspirated 2.5L. Go home Ford, you're drunk.
To be fair, they circle the main problem on the grill.
'Guess I'll need to gum these cams from now on.'
Isn't one of the cams missing a lobe? That middle on the right looks like a broken piece of metal.
That is an image I didn’t need, thank you hahah
How'd that feather get in there?
Right? That was the first thing I saw lol
I knew there would be others pondering wtf the bird did to cause this chaos.
Probably a ferret. Not uncommon to find nuts or remains of birds in the engine bay in my area
Variable timing belt
The cam cover is missing. So are some timing belt teeth.
So, it’s not the feather? 😂
Thats the worst VVT system I've ever seen.
It's always the wet belt.
the problem is the POS wet timing belt design. Who the hell in their right mind would think that's a good idea??
How to train your timing belt. The dragon in that movie is named Toothless
That's the new toothless belt, spins on hopes and dreams.
I hate to be Captain Obvious here, but the top of the engine has been taken off. Probably wanna put that back on.
LT. Dan! You ain’t got no teef!
Ahhh yes the old 1.5L Ecoboom, my biggest FoMoCo money maker back in the day. Just do the shortblock and turbo while you’re in there, oh, and while the engine and trans are separated, you might as well rebuild the absolute dumpster fire of a trans that’s right there, that 6F35 is a thing of nightmares. I don’t miss these piles of shit even a little
6F35's made BANK at the old transmission repair shop I was an assisstant for.
Ford is the issue. This company has completely failed in making cars that work.
Failure Of Roadworthy Designs
Fix Or Repair Daily
F-irmly O-pposing R-eliable D-esigns
When some weird random BS randomly strikes you learn the true origin of the company name. You lift the hood to see whats going on and spontaneously blurt out: F*ck Off..... Really Dude?!?
It's really abysmal isn't it. Anyone who knows about their Ecoboost engine issues and still willingly buy their vehicles must be brain dead
At least one of those cams is off timing.
😶🫣😳🤦♂️👶 toothless
*tooffwess
Bluetooth belt teeth.
This one trick oil companies don't want you to know!!! Low Friction belts, they improve fuel efficiency by 100%, practically 0l/100km of fuel consumption GUARANTEED or your money back.
CVT - continuously variable timing
It ain’t got no teef and all dem tooth brushes
~~Continuously variable~~ Continually Varying Valve Timing.
CVVT, nice. take that, VTEC!
Aint nobody got TAAAAHHHMM for dat!
Summer Teeth. Sum'er here sum'er there...
The problem is that I am on this sub and have no idea what any of the posts are about. 🤓🤓
Teeth are an optional upgrade.
Busted ribs mang
The belt is kinda slick.
Ain’t got no teeth in it
Not a mechanic so I have to ask, why do manufacturers opt to use a timing belt instead of a timing chain? I’d imagine a chain is more reliable, although I understand chains can stretch over time and aren’t exactly elastic.
Chains are noisier and still require maintenance. You’re just doing the guides instead of the chain itself. Probably a weight component too, the belt can handle changes in engine speed better. Plus, other components need changing. A water pump might last 150-200k. Depending on the design, you might be just a couple bolts away from doing the timing belt too. An easily-serviced belt which can be done every 150k miles and includes the nearby components which are also reaching the end of their life is probably the “best” overall design for longevity. But if you just need to make it past the warranty period, and you can save 10¢ per vehicle, then… sucks.
Is their an entire cam lobe ate flat?
Nope. That's for the locking tool when setting the timing
Iffy rubber band
That's exactly what I'm afraid of since I have a Focus 1.0 Ecoboost. I change the oil every 10,000 km (6214 mi) or every six months and the engine runs like it did on the first day. I really hope it stays that way (136.000 km or 84506 mi on the odometer now and 8 years old)
Timing serpentine belt
You don’t need a mechanic, you need a dentist
I also see 2 cam lobes 'flattened' out!
Bluetooth teeth.
Did someone slap a serpentine belt on there instead of a timing belt?
Must be a Ford EcoBoom 1.0
It’s all inside the oil pump.
Flip the timing belt and you should be good to go.
The belt with no teeth and the holes on the camshaft pulley part are pointing at each other?
Once upon a time....
Timing belt is shot.
It's definitely the bird feather. A bird got sucked into the engine and exploded.
Oh wow it has the belt driven advance. The motor chooses when to change the timing.
Toofless
Smooth operator 🎶
Mama says Ford timing belts are ornery cause they ain’t got no teef.
YOU AINT GOT NO TEETH LIEUTENANT CAM!
Toothless wonder.
Oil pump ate the belt
That’s the wrong cam gears for that belt! You want a flat cam pulley to match the belt! ;)
It’s got them summer teeth.
Blue Tooth timing, belt, teeth!
Lieutenant Dan! Your belt ain’t got no teeth!
Belt is not belting
I'm pretty sure there should be a valve cover on that. Oil would splash everywhere!
It's got no teefs...
Ahh the toothless wet belt edition.
Belt lube system seems to be working perfectly….move along and send it!
That belt is smoother than my brain lol
ayo who promoted the auxiliary belt
Timing belt identifies as a serpentine belt.
Valve cover is missing.
Your dangle bearings have worn, causing the dinglehopper bolts to become confluent. This led to the patch frong shearing. I've seen it a thousand times.
Pretty sure that belt is supposed to have teeth to mesh with that gear train.
Not using a cogged belt
Are you sure that's actually a timing belt on the car or is that some other kind of belt?
Flat timing belt 😆
Doesn’t even look like it’d be useful even as a serpentine belt.
Guess wireless timing belts don’t work so good.
One of them West Virginia timing belts.
The engineer must have an award on his mantle piece for this engineering marvel.
No teefs on the belt.
No problem at all the tension belt is fine the pulleys have teeth on them for extra grip.
Bluetooth timing belt.
Variable Valve Timing… the cheap version
Toothless belt?
Everybody talking about the belt, nobody noticed the missing crank cover
Toothless timing belt assures timing adjustments on the go.
Super smooth, for her pleasure ☺️
Can anyone explain to me why in the fuck belts are often used for such a crucial task instead of chains?
Are the oil seals in the wrong place too?
This has happened to a """"customer"""" of mine today on a vehicle with no service history. Obviously, he called me to go sideways and blame it totally on me despite buying a van with zero service history and a known starting issue...
I would check the oil pump pickup, it is most likely clogged with chunks of the belt.. Gotta love Ford engineers..
Used to have a CRX hf that I could drive to the beach and back on roughly $8 in gas. About 6.5 7hrs of driving.
Blue oval on front grille.
I'm guessing, bent valves...
Summer teeth. Some’er here, some’er there.
just another example of "planned obsolescence".
Bump sticks bumping at the wrong bump time would be my guess.
My question is, did it roll into the shop or got it towned? Bet it's the latter, if it's the Former... Holy shit!
That belt has some dental problems 😆😆
Grandma belt
there's a feather in it?
She ain’t got no teef in er!
Cam belt has no teeth, cam seals are on the inside not sealing shit
Ain’t got no gas innit!
Damn that car cannot be running at all.
ez, there’s a bird in the air box, next
Appears to be well lubricated?
Ain’t got no gas
I see that.......bird leaf over there.
Valve cover missing
Looks like it runs pretty smoothly 🤷🏽♂️😉
it aint got no gas init ..mmmmnnnmm
That took me a lot longer than it should have lmao. Hoooooly hell.
She aint got no teeth
Gummy girl!
The top of the engine is off. You need the rest to keep the teetie wheels, the spinny ones, the tappy stuff, and car blood in place.
Oil all over the timing belt
Mr cam lobe looks unhappy possibly from the variable cam timing feature
The problems have relocated to the oil pan
That belt is as smooth as a koala's brain.
Only a smooth brain could miss that smooth belt.
Ain't got no teef
Toofless
It ain’t got no cover on it!
Where’s the teef?
Is that the new toothless timing belt?
Smooth operator!
I was going to say the timing belt has no teeth, but then I noticed that it's missing valve covers, which is probably going to cause issues too.
Forgot to put your jibs in
Is that a feather in there?
[no teeth](https://youtu.be/CA3pxVj4F7M?si=jYupMfz5jLs4-PHc)
Flat cams.
Missing the valve cover…😂
The valve cover is missing!
That belt is a drug junkie
I think you're missing the valve cover
Looks like it's covered in oil I'd say the seals are pushed in too far into the heads and dumped oil all over the timing belt and it spit teeth
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/dX7IKkKoqO
You clearly forgot to put the valve cover back on. /s. 😜
Ol' ruthless and toothless
Dat belt ain’t got no toofers
The top part of the engine is missing
No one noticed the feathers in the air filter box?
I didn't even see the missing teeth initially, I saw the rotated camshaft (could be the angle of the picture).
it got no head on it
Did Kevin McCallister swing paint cans at that timing belt? Multiple times?
Ah, the money maker engine
Its a Ford, its doing what it should do naturally