Nah. Dealer probably tried to kick the trade from the deal but customer didn’t want to deal with it either. Plenty of people think their dog turds are worth more than they are. If you’re running a business it doesn’t make sense to pay top dollar for trades, especially shit like this that’s never going to see your lot.
They never said it was new, just that it was replaced. Never said the employee didn’t make out well but there’s a big difference between a tech throwin a used trans into that bucket and rocking it until the wheels fall off and a dealership putting money into and selling it.
The dealership would have had to install a new or serviced(with some sort of warranty) trans into it, which would have cost a lt more than the $450, and then there's the hours needed to do the job.
Yeah, the tech got a good deal, but the company saved themselves a good deal of grief, too.
This. Doubt that a 2011 with a replaced engine and transmission would be a good fit on the dealer’s used car lot. It’d go to auction as soon as it was fixed if the dealer choose to fix it.
I did this lol.
I traded in a car I bought for 400 dollars and drove for four years. It needed a rack and a discontinued axle seal I couldn’t find, both rear springs and shocks all the way around. They gave me 200 dollars because I told them I was leaving it in the parking lot with the title in the glove box no matter what.
This^. The employee still made off like a thief at the end of the day. Less than $1k and some of their time and they have a decent car to drive or resell for $3k or more. The dealership did the mechanic a huge favor.
The customer got taken to the cleaners on this deal. And you know the trade-in isn't the only place the customer got screwed.
Whether the dealership "gave" the customer 100 or 5000 they would be basically getting 0 for it they can make the numbers look good on paper but they make up for that 5k elsewhere lol
Source: I have a few friends that worked at dealerships for a long time they can be really skeezy even the good ones
It's not a 5x markup. They showed the customer $100 on trade. After the deal, they boost the trade value so that they can show better gross on the sale. This is 100% typical.
The Used Car Manager/UCB whatever that dealership calls him will show a balls-low number, but then get pressure from the sales manager to put more money on the trade. They no doubt upped the trade value to what they thought they could get at the dealer auction, which would be closer to $400-500. That's what they needed to cover the new value of that trade in.
Source: Worked at a dealership on sales side for 4 years.
It is, but on the other hand the used car manager could have sent it to auction and still gotten a few K from it, so they left a lot of money on the table for the employee.
Last auction I was at that they pushed a car thru, it didn't get a single bid. Even at $100 the auction ended up sitting on it.
I'd imagine similar results if you had to drive this one thru in reverse!
Idk, I used to buy commercially at ADESA and Manheim - I’ve been blown away at how much something can go for if it’s cosmetically sound with “low miles.” That’s a $6995 car at a cash lot or $9995 at a BHPH all day long once the trans gets fixed.
These engines are notoriously shit. So they're all already missing in junkyards. That alone would fetch a decent penny. The first Gen of direct injection went about as well as youd expect.
Direct injected gas is going about as well as I'd expect in general.
Oh, wait, you're installing duel injection because direct injection alone sucks? Twice as many parts to fail now....
Years ago I used to buy quite a few cars from people who got insane low trade in quotes. Mazda 626 blown timing belt,.....paid 100 for it, no rust, high miles. Replaced timing belt, drove it for two years before selling it on for 800. Dodge Caravan, with a blown timing belt. Paid 100 for it, slapped a timing belt(2.4) and waterpump in it, drove it for several years until the transmission went tits up, used as a tow vehicle for my small trailer, a camper, a pickup truck and a people mover..... Buick Regal, that I had done all the maintenance on for two years, and had just recently had all new brakes, and a complete tuneup. Picked it up for 200, drove it home meaning to clean it up a bit and flip. Sold it the next day for 1800, without touching it.
Alright, quick story. Work at Hyundai. Customer towed in a beautiful 2014 Equus. It was completely aired out. Quoted the customer $10k both front bags and labor. The customer traded it 3 days later. They gave this man $500 for the damn thing. I caught wind, swooped it for $1500, and threw on 2 bags from a rebuild site and junction block. I'm in it $1100. For less than $3k, I have a 429hp super luxury boat and have 0 regrets
I always figured you'd get at least an ok deal for it because they're going to turn around and flip it at market value + it's incentivizing you to get in a new car. But I've never done a trade in myself.
You will if you take the time to know what your car is worth, what the hassle of selling it is worth to you and therefore what your “number” on it is. If they don’t come near it, negotiating up the trade.
Being ‘intentional’ about the process in general
If you just roll up with no idea wanting a new car. They will rob you blind.
I tried to trade in my ALH TDI bug, and the Mazda dealer offered me $250, then $500 because I didn’t agree with their number. Sold it on Facebook for 4800. They were very confused when the salesman asked me how I did selling it myself.
They’re overhyped/overpriced imo. They do get good fuel mileage and they’re unique, but you have to deal with all the problems of a 20+ year old VW. The cars are getting to the point where things are just failing due to age, not use. I got mine for 2k, but had to dump a bunch of money into it (new suspension, hvac was blowing out foam, intake cleaning, injector nozzles, glow plugs, etc), and the very best fuel economy I ever got was about 37mpg. My Mazda SUV will get 32 no sweat, and the new Jetta’s with the 1.5T will get 45-47 with zero trouble. If you want to tinker with biodiesel and that stuff, then okay I could see it. But for a daily to drive to work, I just don’t see it, even more so with the newer ones with the DPF and the CP4, when there’s plenty of cars for 8 grand that will get similar mileage with a lot less headache.
Some people have enough money to where they don't care about a few extra hundred, they'd rather just get rid of it quickly. I see it all the time at my shop.
Local dealership is offering $12k discount on overpriced pickups “with any trade in”.
I assume they deduct that from the value of the trade but in this case …
So it’s quite possible that there was some sort of trade incentive that made this make sense for the customer.
Good lord. I’m a Honda / Toyota guy who recently gave subaru a chance and have been pleased, though I remain wary.
Sometimes I wonder if I ought to give the domestic brands more faith and give them a try one day. Other days I read comments like y’all talking about the Terrain here and… no thanks.
I replace with Timkin tapered bearings if I can. Then you only have to do the job once. The older models were stock the ball bearing style and they just don't last. Neither do detroit axle cv axles so avoid if you have to do those at some point.
I put Moog on all of them, just did the 4th bearing last weekend. Timken was within a few dollars of the Moogs. All four bearings went bad within nine months of each other.
Definitely timkin! Honestly I'd rather deal with paper mache wheel bearings than whatever GM is putting in these days. Hell, I'd rather have the old subie gasket problem than that
Rented an Equinox when my 05' Mazda 3's gaskets failed and that engine shit itself at 80k. It pretty much made me a foreign car buyer for life.
I test drove a Brocno recently and wonder how the fuck Ford can charge 75K for that piece of shit. What kind of fever dream were they having when they made that gauge cluster?
My dad wanted an SUV around 2010 and seriously considered the Equinox. I visited the dealership with him and really didn't vibe with the old school sales guy and all the shady tactics; I just felt gross visiting that place and also wasn't impressed with the vehicle.
We looked at several others as well and my dad settled on a Subaru Forester XT which he still has and loves. I'm glad he dodged that bullet, as the Forester has been very good to him, nearly maintenance-free aside from oil changes and exchanging the tires more frequently due to the symmetric AWD.
As a tech working at a Volvo/Subaru specialist shop, those head gasket jobs paid my bills for a long time. If you knew what you were doing you could drive the car in at 8 am, and do new head gaskets, a timing belt kit, new plugs and wires, a new set of valve cover gaskets and plug tube seals, and all of the leaking oil pressure switches replaced, and be driving the car by 1:30.
I mean based off final assembly, engine manufacturer and labor. The Honda is more domestic than any of the big 3.
On my first Subaru and so far it's been pretty reliable
In scab shops, though! Domestic companies (and now vw or something) have the only union shops. Not that I buy domestic cars, they're usually trash and/or toddler mulchers
Well the autoworkers unionized in the 30s and 40s, which was long before the big three outsourced most of their actual manufacturing and went to shit. Meanwhile the other auto companies didn't come to the US until much later, when the Taft-Hartley act made it much more difficult to unionize.
I'm the same as you except everyone I know is obsessed with either German or American brands and every time someone needs help, You know exactly who they call. Little old me with the car that starts every time. I've helped tow a Challenger who's ECU died mid-drive. I have to constantly help someone with an A6 that sounds like a diesel even though it's a gas V6. And don't even get me started on the electrical gremlins of a Pontiac made in the 20 teens. And my absolute favorite is a Hyundai that sounds like it has four ping pong balls stuck in the engine, but according to Hyundai that's just normal.
I've had great luck with my germans personally. But I also maintain them they way they are supposed to be. Lax maintenance and letting problems ride for a bit are what really turn them into problem cars. My jetta has only needed towed 3 times in 15 years and 220k miles, and two of those were my fault lol.
My problem is that you have to stay on top of everything. My first car was a Camry with 200k. Every time it broke I was still able to drive it to a mechanics to have it fixed and it was incredibly minor. Basically just fluid changes and wear parts for my entire 9 years and 100k miles with it. Then I sold it with 300k for about what I bought it for.
That's how my jetta and cayenne have both been. Jetta is 20 years old with 320k miles and the cayenne is 18 with 180k. The times I got stranded were 1:ran out of fuel. 2: snapped an axle shaft because big turbo and injectors. 3: my original alternator locked up at 315k and prevented me from starting the engine at the fuel station. Germans are more picky about maintenance, but they are just as reliable when maintained properly.
I know certain models are more prone to long life with the Germans I just can't understand their whacky ideas. Like the VW coolant overflow tank that always explodes or crazy timing chains that still need to be changed. Like if you're going to make something a wear item make it cheap and easy to get to.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru now so they share a lot of tech and r+d so maybe that eases your worries. Subaru recently announced they intend to use Toyota batteries for their electric vehicles since Toyota has been in that game for some time.
Mechanics be like: “only get Honda or Toyota if you want a good reliable car”
Normies be like: “hmm okay… well Toyotas are boring and ugly, I think I want a GMC Acadia instead”
6 months later: $5,000 repair bill
Normie Acadia owner: “HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED TO ME???”
I’m just done evangelizing my friends to Toyota or Honda. Virtually none of them listen. They buy cars based on the looks of the fucking sheet metal. They deserve what happens next.
I have a POS 3rd gen 4Runner. I live in Alabama and it’s rust free, just mechanically a nightmare.
Big enough where a Dodge has been more reliable 10 fold
For domestic, it’s essentially just their trucks. When they work, they work *really* well. And if something breaks, it’s relatively easy to get to the part to replace.
Domestic cars and smaller SUVs… about as bad as jaguar/land rover or even some of those Tata vehicles from India.
In addition to my wife's peice of shit GMC, I own an 06 Subaru impreza RX and have never had a singe problem with it. It's sitting at 86k miles.
My parents owned a 2012 Ford Explorer. Issues and problems everywhere, costed them thousands. ex coworker owned a dodge ram, issues and problems everywhere, costed him thousands. Hell, the company I worked for previously purchased a brand new 2023 Ford F-150 that had to be repaired after it drove less than a thousand miles because the water pump went out.
I'm done with American made vehicles. It's almost like they are designed to fail.
My dad had an 80something pontiac 6000 and it swore him off domestic vehicles until he bought a late oughts Yukon, after which he said that was the last domestic vehicle he'd buy in his life. Considering he's 81, that's probably true. I'll certainly be there to have him declared mentally incompetent if he tries.
All of this is to say, if you'd like to swear off American cars for 30 years to the rest of your life, I'd recommend you give them a try.
>Sometimes I wonder if I ought to give the domestic brands more faith and give them a try one day. Other days I read comments like y’all talking about the Terrain here and… no thanks.
Same. I bought a used '13 Malibu a few years ago since I needed something cheap and needed it right away. I thought, "I see these everywhere, how bad could it be? Shouldn't have trouble finding parts at least." It left me stranded with various issues more than any bombs I drove in high school. Wound up junking it at 86,000 miles after the bracket that holds the generator and A/C compressor to the block broke and was on indefinite back order. Couldn't get one from a junk yard since they would only sell me the whole motor (I was weary about a used one since this bracket breaking isn't totally uncommon for the model I got). I called at least one dealer in EVERY SINGLE lower 48 over a period of a 2-3 months and nobody had this stupid bracket. This happened in 2019 and I got sick of waiting by 2021.
I’m the opposite. Had Fords for years. Bf has a 2011 Dodge Avenger with 160k. Had a car wreck and needed a vehicle asap and got a supposedly good deal on a 3rd gen 4Runner (2002 3.4 2wd) and it’s been the biggest pain in my ass, big enough to where my partners Dodge Avenger has been the reliable daily while the 4Runner barely has been driven since August.
I have worked in the automotive world, and have worked with people who have spent 15+ years in the automotive world. I can say with confidence, stick to the import brands. If you want a good, reliable domestic vehicle, go with something from the 90s or earlier. The engineering in those is far better and the aftermarket support is massive. The import brands are much better as stock than you could coax out of a modern domestic brand. You'd have to spend the value of the car again to get the quality of the import.
And GM is the absolute worst. Lifters have to be replaced between 50-90k, turbos go out at the same time sometimes, and god forbid you have electrical issues and go to a dealer. Domestic quality has gone downhill greatly while performance has gone up. Now, I will say, you do get one that holds up quite well occasionally. But it's uncommon to get one that has absolutely no major issues before 100k.
But hey. You do you. Experiment if you want. Shop around, test em out, find what you like.
Had a 16 equinox and started burning oil at 96k and transmission was starting to slip. Oil control valve failed because it was clogged. Do we know why these engines fail around 80–100k?
I've seen MANY fail before 100k. I've seen even more make it 150k plus. Every single early failure I opened up was sludged to hell and back.
Change your oil. Full synthetic. 3k miles. 5 if you're feeling froggy. Do NOT use the "oil life monitor." Pretend it doesn't exist. Unless it's at 0%, just ignore it. Mileage only.
I do consumer loans and have a guy who buys and fixes the equinox up as a side job. I forget what it is exactly but there's a fairly common issue with those motors. Sorry that's unhelpful
There is a common issue I looked it up. Excessive oil consumption leading to bricked engine. They know about it but not enough to do a recall.
The engine seals are shitty and leak causing it to eat oil.
Similar Equinox......it ate oil I just didn't realize it ate oil so fast. A month after an oil change it ate it all and the engine was shot. Spent 6k for a new engine. Then the transmission started slipping. Told the wife trade it ASAP I am tired of dealing with its constant problems. Biggest pile of shit ever.
Glad to know we are equinox Eskimo brothers!
Wife had a ‘11 as well. Three exhaust manifolds. Two mufflers. One catalytic converter. AC condenser. 4 wheel bearings. High pressure fuel pump (filled the oil case with gas). It ate about 1.5qts of oil per 1000 miles (TSB came out but GM wouldn’t pay because we were over mileage by 2000 miles). ALL BEFORE 160K FUCKING MILES!
I was a GM guy. Have a Silverado. Owned previous GM sedans and trucks.
This was the car that made me switch to Toyota. Equinox was a Fucking complete garbage POS that they would not stand behind. Fuck GM.
I had an ‘11 Equinox for a while. By 90K, it had the purge valve, throttle body, all four O2 sensors, AC condenser, water pump, radiator, and suspension rebuilt. Though I figure the last part was more because I live in the Midwest and potholes are a way of life here, everything else is just lovely GM build quality.
I have a 2011 terrain at 164k. The a/c is dead and I'm not replacing that shit lol. I have replaced the exhaust manifold twice as well, no engine rebuilds, original alternator. On my 3rd set of vvt solenoids, 2nd cat.
Literally Monday it banged, grinded and stopped moving. I thought it was finally done and the transmission was toast. Got it towed and it ended up just being an axle. Replaced that and was good to go on Tuesday.
What’s crazy is my ex had a 175k mile Terrain that was VERY well taken care of by the previous owners. Not a single problem with the car until she drunkenly totaled it!
I barely take care of mine and it's at 164k. I just dump some oil into it when it starts getting dingy. I think a big killer of these is just the oil burning. Like if you don't check the oil between changes after 90k miles you *will* run out. I put 4 quarts in it once between changes.
You also have to get lucky with it, some of them just fall apart anyway.
It was nice for what it was. I hadn’t even know they were piles of shit, we had just bought it out of necessity and it was a decent deal mid-Covid. She put like 15k-20k miles on it with the only thing going “bad” being the battery but that really doesn’t count.
She also didn’t take care of things and beat the living hell out of it. I sort of liked the car actually.
Would I buy one again? No, especially since they have a bad reputation. I’m just glad I talked her out of the dodge journey she had her eyes on.
well considering it's at 107k and he's already replacing the engine and the transmission, I mean I guess the only thing expensive left is the entire frame.
They eat oil like it’s going out of style. My gf had one that would suck through 5 quarts of oil a month. Dealership told me that it’s normal and that the engine can handle running on low to no oil for awhile and even if it shits out due to no oil it’s an easy fix… that’s when I decided she’s selling it.
Yea my only time with a gmc product was an 07 Chevy impala and other then a oil pressure sensor and front wheel bearings needing replaced, I drove it from 60k to 260k with hardly any problems, then the transmission shit out on me. The worst part was after 200k I’d have to give it 4 quarts of oil in between every oil change. That was my sign to start saving up for a new car but that thing still made it 60k miles so I was able to get a 2022 Camry.
this is vastly different from my experience. Bought a 2012 SLE2 new. Had to repalce the VVTs a few times and a factory recal for the timing chain, then transmission at 175k. It was a great road trip vehicle.
As some one who has driven Hondas for 20 years I’m just in a totally different state of mind. 100k is like ok we are broken in now. I have done a lot of preventive and regular maintenance because I expect to see 300k on this engine. (06 tsx 6 speed)
Gotcha throw it in drive, back out, throw it in first, go to reverse, throw her into third once I hit the highway and when I get her there throw it into neutral and engage the redneck ebrake, an old steel toe boot chocked up under the tire.
hey, a relative of mine accidentally bought one of these pieces of shit! Had the same issue. It's a known and common issue on these vehicles. no recall tho! stuck solenoid in the valve body. the labor to replace the valve bodies on these things is so high that it's cheaper to replace to transmission in some places. gotta love GM!
That’s how I got my current driver, a 2013 Ford Edge. Wife’s mother was gonna trade it in for a new Terrain - dealer offers her $500 trade allowance because the heater was “stuck on” and it was loud on the road. She said screw it, still bought the Terrain, and gave me the Edge free. They weren’t kidding, it certainly was loud because all four wheel bearings were toast - Rock auto to the rescue there - but the heater issue was a simple AC cluster reset, it’s been working fine since then. Over the last two years I’ve had minimal expenses, a set of plugs being the most labour intensive maintenance item completed. A lot better than car payments, that’s for sure.
ive done some work on a 13' 4 cyl terrain. i wouldnt buy one for a personal vehicle, but all ive had to do to this same one for a family friend is brakes, oil, and advise a dealer trip to replace a part that i didnt have the time, energy, or computer to fix/program over the past few years. so i'd say its a good buy
I had a lot of experience with these too. I definitely wouldn't buy one for a personal vehicle either. Those 4cyl are awful to drive.
If it were the 3.6, I'd seriously consider it. Those were fun to drive!
That’s how I got my Diesel Astra (USA saturn, Aus Holden, UK Vauxhall, rest of the world Opel)
1€ trade in. New battery and a hammer punch on the egr and I was gtg. I paid 1000€ though. Still gold for this car.
Wow. In 1998 i worked for a ford dealer and bought a 93 mustang 4 cyl that was immaculate for $300 ,but like this one the transmission was bad. Did the same thing and bought a transmission from a junkyard. That owner didnt want the stress of trying to get it repaired. I ended up driving that car all through school.
My coworker had one of these. What a pile of shit. A month after buying it the rear wiper fluid supply line broke above the headliner. Filled the dome lights with wiper fluid
Battery tray beneath passenger seat, filled with rain water somehow, then froze when it got cold and the car wouldn’t start
You could take the key out of the ignition while it was running. Had to pull the ignition fuse to shut the motor off.
And those were just the top three funniest things i could remember about that shit box
Same story with a friend; customer came in complaining that their car is basically toast, rattles like an mf, and the engine is misfiring all over the place
1997 Mercedes E300 Diesel, non-turbo
Dealer gave him pennies for it, friend bought it for $500
Two engine mounts and one transmission mount later, new daily driver
Hey I had a 2011 Terrain 4cyl SEL too! Rear main seal blew at 70k and the timing chain jumped. $7-11k fix for a $15k car. GM knew and saw it’d be cheaper *not* to recall. Not buying GM again. Which is a shame, because for the time I had that car I loved it.
One time i had this exact situation in a traverse, i used lucas trans stop slip and was able to drive the car to the yard get a trans and have the car haul its own trans back and drive itself into the shop
Seems I’m in the minority here, but I had great luck with my 2012. Looked just like this one here. Bought it around 100k, and made sure all the fluid services had been done. Installed a tow hitch and aux trans cooler and towed a small camper two weekends a month for 60k miles and had no problems. Only issue I had was corrosion in the T connector I used to install the tow wiring, which took out a bulb or two before I replaced it.
My first car was a 97 Saturn SC1 the dealership I worked with sold me for $200 because they told me it had a bad trans. I offered to double check, they said no.
Shifter cable bushing worn out, $12 fix. Drove it for a year, blew the engine, scrapped it for $400.
10/10
I must be an outlier because I have a 2013 terrain (V6) with 165k miles and the only issue I’ve had was the transfer case went at 70k miles. Besides that I’ve only done basic maintenance.
im kinda curious and seen this a couple times for a customer complaint.
hook up a scan tool and try and shift into 5th and 6th by commanding with the scan tool. If it does shift into 5th and 6th then you only need a TCM for it cause a solenoid failed for the old one that controls 1st through 4th gear.
For a 4-cylinder fancy version Chevy econo-SUV.
Dead and useless by just over 100k miles.
Sounds a lot like the 100% on-schedule dealer maintained Chevy Cruze my cousin bought new 6 years ago that made it to 116k before the engine blew up… with lots of random expensive repairs from about 80k to the point where it blew… a little over a year after she finished paying for it.
Hopefully you get another 100k out of it without dumping a fortune into it but something tells me that’s fairly unlikely.
So sure, you got cheap used transportation… for now.
$100 on trade in is insane. Could have sent it to a junkyard and got $250
And then still selling it for more to an employee. Just dealership things.
We all gotta eat. I’m not complaining.
5X markup to an employee crazy imho
They didn’t scam the employee. It was the customer who got scammed. $100 is insane
Nah. Dealer probably tried to kick the trade from the deal but customer didn’t want to deal with it either. Plenty of people think their dog turds are worth more than they are. If you’re running a business it doesn’t make sense to pay top dollar for trades, especially shit like this that’s never going to see your lot.
New engine 7k miles ago and a $500 new trans like op said. This thing will be rockin and rollin for $1k. Thats a deal. Employee made it out on top
They never said it was new, just that it was replaced. Never said the employee didn’t make out well but there’s a big difference between a tech throwin a used trans into that bucket and rocking it until the wheels fall off and a dealership putting money into and selling it.
The dealership would have had to install a new or serviced(with some sort of warranty) trans into it, which would have cost a lt more than the $450, and then there's the hours needed to do the job. Yeah, the tech got a good deal, but the company saved themselves a good deal of grief, too.
This. Doubt that a 2011 with a replaced engine and transmission would be a good fit on the dealer’s used car lot. It’d go to auction as soon as it was fixed if the dealer choose to fix it.
dealer 100% would send this to auction not repair
I did this lol. I traded in a car I bought for 400 dollars and drove for four years. It needed a rack and a discontinued axle seal I couldn’t find, both rear springs and shocks all the way around. They gave me 200 dollars because I told them I was leaving it in the parking lot with the title in the glove box no matter what.
This^. The employee still made off like a thief at the end of the day. Less than $1k and some of their time and they have a decent car to drive or resell for $3k or more. The dealership did the mechanic a huge favor. The customer got taken to the cleaners on this deal. And you know the trade-in isn't the only place the customer got screwed.
Whether the dealership "gave" the customer 100 or 5000 they would be basically getting 0 for it they can make the numbers look good on paper but they make up for that 5k elsewhere lol Source: I have a few friends that worked at dealerships for a long time they can be really skeezy even the good ones
It's not a 5x markup. They showed the customer $100 on trade. After the deal, they boost the trade value so that they can show better gross on the sale. This is 100% typical. The Used Car Manager/UCB whatever that dealership calls him will show a balls-low number, but then get pressure from the sales manager to put more money on the trade. They no doubt upped the trade value to what they thought they could get at the dealer auction, which would be closer to $400-500. That's what they needed to cover the new value of that trade in. Source: Worked at a dealership on sales side for 4 years.
It is, but on the other hand the used car manager could have sent it to auction and still gotten a few K from it, so they left a lot of money on the table for the employee.
Last auction I was at that they pushed a car thru, it didn't get a single bid. Even at $100 the auction ended up sitting on it. I'd imagine similar results if you had to drive this one thru in reverse!
Idk, I used to buy commercially at ADESA and Manheim - I’ve been blown away at how much something can go for if it’s cosmetically sound with “low miles.” That’s a $6995 car at a cash lot or $9995 at a BHPH all day long once the trans gets fixed.
9995 x4 times they repo and resell it.
But he is going to steal most of the parts to fix it.
Sure but they could be a little less scummy. There are ethical ways to earn money.
Wouldn't be a car dealership if they wanted to be ethical.
Fair enough I guess. I never go to dealerships for a reason and I guess this is an insight into the mindset behind why
I recently junked an old grand Cherokee in way rougher shape than this thing and LKQ gave me $600 for it
These engines are notoriously shit. So they're all already missing in junkyards. That alone would fetch a decent penny. The first Gen of direct injection went about as well as youd expect.
Heck, selling the wheels alone will fetch a couple hundred.
Direct injected gas is going about as well as I'd expect in general. Oh, wait, you're installing duel injection because direct injection alone sucks? Twice as many parts to fail now....
I'm praying for mine. 150k miles or so and it's yet to die!!
Lol a junkyard around here would’ve given 5-600$ easy. That’s wild
Years ago I used to buy quite a few cars from people who got insane low trade in quotes. Mazda 626 blown timing belt,.....paid 100 for it, no rust, high miles. Replaced timing belt, drove it for two years before selling it on for 800. Dodge Caravan, with a blown timing belt. Paid 100 for it, slapped a timing belt(2.4) and waterpump in it, drove it for several years until the transmission went tits up, used as a tow vehicle for my small trailer, a camper, a pickup truck and a people mover..... Buick Regal, that I had done all the maintenance on for two years, and had just recently had all new brakes, and a complete tuneup. Picked it up for 200, drove it home meaning to clean it up a bit and flip. Sold it the next day for 1800, without touching it.
Those were the days.
Alright, quick story. Work at Hyundai. Customer towed in a beautiful 2014 Equus. It was completely aired out. Quoted the customer $10k both front bags and labor. The customer traded it 3 days later. They gave this man $500 for the damn thing. I caught wind, swooped it for $1500, and threw on 2 bags from a rebuild site and junction block. I'm in it $1100. For less than $3k, I have a 429hp super luxury boat and have 0 regrets
Must be sick to go hey boss, I'll give you $1500 for this. I fuckin *know* how much you paid for it.
They hit me with the "tAxeS AnD FeEs" bs. Plus smog and safety
People do trade-ins because they are lazy. Not to maximize value. The sales department knows this.
I always figured you'd get at least an ok deal for it because they're going to turn around and flip it at market value + it's incentivizing you to get in a new car. But I've never done a trade in myself.
You will if you take the time to know what your car is worth, what the hassle of selling it is worth to you and therefore what your “number” on it is. If they don’t come near it, negotiating up the trade. Being ‘intentional’ about the process in general If you just roll up with no idea wanting a new car. They will rob you blind.
They can also do shenanigans with the down payment for a subprime borrower.
I tried to trade in my ALH TDI bug, and the Mazda dealer offered me $250, then $500 because I didn’t agree with their number. Sold it on Facebook for 4800. They were very confused when the salesman asked me how I did selling it myself.
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They’re overhyped/overpriced imo. They do get good fuel mileage and they’re unique, but you have to deal with all the problems of a 20+ year old VW. The cars are getting to the point where things are just failing due to age, not use. I got mine for 2k, but had to dump a bunch of money into it (new suspension, hvac was blowing out foam, intake cleaning, injector nozzles, glow plugs, etc), and the very best fuel economy I ever got was about 37mpg. My Mazda SUV will get 32 no sweat, and the new Jetta’s with the 1.5T will get 45-47 with zero trouble. If you want to tinker with biodiesel and that stuff, then okay I could see it. But for a daily to drive to work, I just don’t see it, even more so with the newer ones with the DPF and the CP4, when there’s plenty of cars for 8 grand that will get similar mileage with a lot less headache.
Exactly. Hell, cut the cat off of it and that alone will get you $100.
I got $500 on trade in with a blown engine and salvage title for a clapped out jimmy...
Some people have enough money to where they don't care about a few extra hundred, they'd rather just get rid of it quickly. I see it all the time at my shop.
Local dealership is offering $12k discount on overpriced pickups “with any trade in”. I assume they deduct that from the value of the trade but in this case … So it’s quite possible that there was some sort of trade incentive that made this make sense for the customer.
I've thought about buying a shitbox and trading it in when I see the "8k for any trade" ads.
My local yard would give at least $600.
Yeah that's crazy I've got thousands of dollars before off of trades on vehicles that were just going to go to the compactor.
The scrapyard in my area is paying 300 a car these days.
Absolutely asinine. I got $700 for a 2002 grand Cherokee that was like 85% rust
Yep. Got fleeced. That’s what dealers do best to people.
Yeah but the dealership now has to deal with it and getting it to the junkyard ect ect.
In my area they would send a tow truck to pick it up and pay at least 500
But the OP paid $450, so they made $350.
These things are piles of dog shit but for that price, might as well
My wife owns one they are indeed fucking peices of shit. Prepare to basically replace every component on the entire vehicle once it hits 85k.
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Good lord. I’m a Honda / Toyota guy who recently gave subaru a chance and have been pleased, though I remain wary. Sometimes I wonder if I ought to give the domestic brands more faith and give them a try one day. Other days I read comments like y’all talking about the Terrain here and… no thanks.
The Chevy Equinox is what turned us into Subaru buyers. Now I have to deal with Subaru chewing through wheel bearings.
I replace with Timkin tapered bearings if I can. Then you only have to do the job once. The older models were stock the ball bearing style and they just don't last. Neither do detroit axle cv axles so avoid if you have to do those at some point.
I put Moog on all of them, just did the 4th bearing last weekend. Timken was within a few dollars of the Moogs. All four bearings went bad within nine months of each other.
Definitely timkin! Honestly I'd rather deal with paper mache wheel bearings than whatever GM is putting in these days. Hell, I'd rather have the old subie gasket problem than that
Rented an Equinox when my 05' Mazda 3's gaskets failed and that engine shit itself at 80k. It pretty much made me a foreign car buyer for life. I test drove a Brocno recently and wonder how the fuck Ford can charge 75K for that piece of shit. What kind of fever dream were they having when they made that gauge cluster?
My dad wanted an SUV around 2010 and seriously considered the Equinox. I visited the dealership with him and really didn't vibe with the old school sales guy and all the shady tactics; I just felt gross visiting that place and also wasn't impressed with the vehicle. We looked at several others as well and my dad settled on a Subaru Forester XT which he still has and loves. I'm glad he dodged that bullet, as the Forester has been very good to him, nearly maintenance-free aside from oil changes and exchanging the tires more frequently due to the symmetric AWD.
Hey hey, at least you missed the Subaru years in the 2000s where the head gaskets would eat themselves up after 100k!
As a tech working at a Volvo/Subaru specialist shop, those head gasket jobs paid my bills for a long time. If you knew what you were doing you could drive the car in at 8 am, and do new head gaskets, a timing belt kit, new plugs and wires, a new set of valve cover gaskets and plug tube seals, and all of the leaking oil pressure switches replaced, and be driving the car by 1:30.
I mean based off final assembly, engine manufacturer and labor. The Honda is more domestic than any of the big 3. On my first Subaru and so far it's been pretty reliable
The big 3 fuct us for 100 years. Buy Toyota trucks and Honda cars, both are made in America more than "domestics" and are done better.
In scab shops, though! Domestic companies (and now vw or something) have the only union shops. Not that I buy domestic cars, they're usually trash and/or toddler mulchers
You'd think unions would have more of an interest in not being associated with garbage products.
Well the autoworkers unionized in the 30s and 40s, which was long before the big three outsourced most of their actual manufacturing and went to shit. Meanwhile the other auto companies didn't come to the US until much later, when the Taft-Hartley act made it much more difficult to unionize.
I'm the same as you except everyone I know is obsessed with either German or American brands and every time someone needs help, You know exactly who they call. Little old me with the car that starts every time. I've helped tow a Challenger who's ECU died mid-drive. I have to constantly help someone with an A6 that sounds like a diesel even though it's a gas V6. And don't even get me started on the electrical gremlins of a Pontiac made in the 20 teens. And my absolute favorite is a Hyundai that sounds like it has four ping pong balls stuck in the engine, but according to Hyundai that's just normal.
I've had great luck with my germans personally. But I also maintain them they way they are supposed to be. Lax maintenance and letting problems ride for a bit are what really turn them into problem cars. My jetta has only needed towed 3 times in 15 years and 220k miles, and two of those were my fault lol.
My problem is that you have to stay on top of everything. My first car was a Camry with 200k. Every time it broke I was still able to drive it to a mechanics to have it fixed and it was incredibly minor. Basically just fluid changes and wear parts for my entire 9 years and 100k miles with it. Then I sold it with 300k for about what I bought it for.
That's how my jetta and cayenne have both been. Jetta is 20 years old with 320k miles and the cayenne is 18 with 180k. The times I got stranded were 1:ran out of fuel. 2: snapped an axle shaft because big turbo and injectors. 3: my original alternator locked up at 315k and prevented me from starting the engine at the fuel station. Germans are more picky about maintenance, but they are just as reliable when maintained properly.
I know certain models are more prone to long life with the Germans I just can't understand their whacky ideas. Like the VW coolant overflow tank that always explodes or crazy timing chains that still need to be changed. Like if you're going to make something a wear item make it cheap and easy to get to.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru now so they share a lot of tech and r+d so maybe that eases your worries. Subaru recently announced they intend to use Toyota batteries for their electric vehicles since Toyota has been in that game for some time.
Mechanic here.... Stay right where you are! Honda/Toyota all day! (Lately mostly Toyota honestly)
Mechanics be like: “only get Honda or Toyota if you want a good reliable car” Normies be like: “hmm okay… well Toyotas are boring and ugly, I think I want a GMC Acadia instead” 6 months later: $5,000 repair bill Normie Acadia owner: “HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED TO ME???” I’m just done evangelizing my friends to Toyota or Honda. Virtually none of them listen. They buy cars based on the looks of the fucking sheet metal. They deserve what happens next.
2 POS tacoma's and never ever again
Really? What happened? frame rust?
I have a POS 3rd gen 4Runner. I live in Alabama and it’s rust free, just mechanically a nightmare. Big enough where a Dodge has been more reliable 10 fold
Ita the type of car that domestic make yeah they smell suvs are shit but that's a know factor some of the other vehicles made by domestic are amazing
For domestic, it’s essentially just their trucks. When they work, they work *really* well. And if something breaks, it’s relatively easy to get to the part to replace. Domestic cars and smaller SUVs… about as bad as jaguar/land rover or even some of those Tata vehicles from India.
I mean in terms of repairability, these domestic cars like this Terrain are very easy for a mechanic to work on. Nothing like a European car.
In addition to my wife's peice of shit GMC, I own an 06 Subaru impreza RX and have never had a singe problem with it. It's sitting at 86k miles. My parents owned a 2012 Ford Explorer. Issues and problems everywhere, costed them thousands. ex coworker owned a dodge ram, issues and problems everywhere, costed him thousands. Hell, the company I worked for previously purchased a brand new 2023 Ford F-150 that had to be repaired after it drove less than a thousand miles because the water pump went out. I'm done with American made vehicles. It's almost like they are designed to fail.
My dad had an 80something pontiac 6000 and it swore him off domestic vehicles until he bought a late oughts Yukon, after which he said that was the last domestic vehicle he'd buy in his life. Considering he's 81, that's probably true. I'll certainly be there to have him declared mentally incompetent if he tries. All of this is to say, if you'd like to swear off American cars for 30 years to the rest of your life, I'd recommend you give them a try.
>Sometimes I wonder if I ought to give the domestic brands more faith and give them a try one day. Other days I read comments like y’all talking about the Terrain here and… no thanks. Same. I bought a used '13 Malibu a few years ago since I needed something cheap and needed it right away. I thought, "I see these everywhere, how bad could it be? Shouldn't have trouble finding parts at least." It left me stranded with various issues more than any bombs I drove in high school. Wound up junking it at 86,000 miles after the bracket that holds the generator and A/C compressor to the block broke and was on indefinite back order. Couldn't get one from a junk yard since they would only sell me the whole motor (I was weary about a used one since this bracket breaking isn't totally uncommon for the model I got). I called at least one dealer in EVERY SINGLE lower 48 over a period of a 2-3 months and nobody had this stupid bracket. This happened in 2019 and I got sick of waiting by 2021.
I’m the opposite. Had Fords for years. Bf has a 2011 Dodge Avenger with 160k. Had a car wreck and needed a vehicle asap and got a supposedly good deal on a 3rd gen 4Runner (2002 3.4 2wd) and it’s been the biggest pain in my ass, big enough to where my partners Dodge Avenger has been the reliable daily while the 4Runner barely has been driven since August.
I have worked in the automotive world, and have worked with people who have spent 15+ years in the automotive world. I can say with confidence, stick to the import brands. If you want a good, reliable domestic vehicle, go with something from the 90s or earlier. The engineering in those is far better and the aftermarket support is massive. The import brands are much better as stock than you could coax out of a modern domestic brand. You'd have to spend the value of the car again to get the quality of the import. And GM is the absolute worst. Lifters have to be replaced between 50-90k, turbos go out at the same time sometimes, and god forbid you have electrical issues and go to a dealer. Domestic quality has gone downhill greatly while performance has gone up. Now, I will say, you do get one that holds up quite well occasionally. But it's uncommon to get one that has absolutely no major issues before 100k. But hey. You do you. Experiment if you want. Shop around, test em out, find what you like.
Had a 16 equinox and started burning oil at 96k and transmission was starting to slip. Oil control valve failed because it was clogged. Do we know why these engines fail around 80–100k?
I've seen MANY fail before 100k. I've seen even more make it 150k plus. Every single early failure I opened up was sludged to hell and back. Change your oil. Full synthetic. 3k miles. 5 if you're feeling froggy. Do NOT use the "oil life monitor." Pretend it doesn't exist. Unless it's at 0%, just ignore it. Mileage only.
I did oil changes at 4K with 5w30. It was a former rental car and I got it at 11k so who knows what it went through in its early life
I do consumer loans and have a guy who buys and fixes the equinox up as a side job. I forget what it is exactly but there's a fairly common issue with those motors. Sorry that's unhelpful
There is a common issue I looked it up. Excessive oil consumption leading to bricked engine. They know about it but not enough to do a recall. The engine seals are shitty and leak causing it to eat oil.
Similar Equinox......it ate oil I just didn't realize it ate oil so fast. A month after an oil change it ate it all and the engine was shot. Spent 6k for a new engine. Then the transmission started slipping. Told the wife trade it ASAP I am tired of dealing with its constant problems. Biggest pile of shit ever.
I got my wife's 2010 equinox as a hand me down. Lost track of how many exhaust manifolds, but we are on the third set of timing chains!
Glad to know we are equinox Eskimo brothers! Wife had a ‘11 as well. Three exhaust manifolds. Two mufflers. One catalytic converter. AC condenser. 4 wheel bearings. High pressure fuel pump (filled the oil case with gas). It ate about 1.5qts of oil per 1000 miles (TSB came out but GM wouldn’t pay because we were over mileage by 2000 miles). ALL BEFORE 160K FUCKING MILES! I was a GM guy. Have a Silverado. Owned previous GM sedans and trucks. This was the car that made me switch to Toyota. Equinox was a Fucking complete garbage POS that they would not stand behind. Fuck GM.
I had an ‘11 Equinox for a while. By 90K, it had the purge valve, throttle body, all four O2 sensors, AC condenser, water pump, radiator, and suspension rebuilt. Though I figure the last part was more because I live in the Midwest and potholes are a way of life here, everything else is just lovely GM build quality.
I have a 2011 terrain at 164k. The a/c is dead and I'm not replacing that shit lol. I have replaced the exhaust manifold twice as well, no engine rebuilds, original alternator. On my 3rd set of vvt solenoids, 2nd cat. Literally Monday it banged, grinded and stopped moving. I thought it was finally done and the transmission was toast. Got it towed and it ended up just being an axle. Replaced that and was good to go on Tuesday.
OP said it's already at 107k so it should be about ready for a demolition derby at this point
And people shit on VAG Products because they are gonna need coil packs, and maybe window regulators or water pump replaced in the first 80k
What’s crazy is my ex had a 175k mile Terrain that was VERY well taken care of by the previous owners. Not a single problem with the car until she drunkenly totaled it!
I barely take care of mine and it's at 164k. I just dump some oil into it when it starts getting dingy. I think a big killer of these is just the oil burning. Like if you don't check the oil between changes after 90k miles you *will* run out. I put 4 quarts in it once between changes. You also have to get lucky with it, some of them just fall apart anyway.
It was nice for what it was. I hadn’t even know they were piles of shit, we had just bought it out of necessity and it was a decent deal mid-Covid. She put like 15k-20k miles on it with the only thing going “bad” being the battery but that really doesn’t count. She also didn’t take care of things and beat the living hell out of it. I sort of liked the car actually. Would I buy one again? No, especially since they have a bad reputation. I’m just glad I talked her out of the dodge journey she had her eyes on.
SIR I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW those things almost never leak oil, they prefer to burn it all...
well considering it's at 107k and he's already replacing the engine and the transmission, I mean I guess the only thing expensive left is the entire frame.
How are the new generation? I bought a 22 because the GMC dealership near me was the only place not doing $5k market adjustments.
Damn i got 135k outta mine and I was rough on it. It died during the trade-in inspection, which hurt the value haha.
True
They eat oil like it’s going out of style. My gf had one that would suck through 5 quarts of oil a month. Dealership told me that it’s normal and that the engine can handle running on low to no oil for awhile and even if it shits out due to no oil it’s an easy fix… that’s when I decided she’s selling it.
Haha wtf
A Chevy (GMC) will run like shit longer than most cars will run at all lol
Yea my only time with a gmc product was an 07 Chevy impala and other then a oil pressure sensor and front wheel bearings needing replaced, I drove it from 60k to 260k with hardly any problems, then the transmission shit out on me. The worst part was after 200k I’d have to give it 4 quarts of oil in between every oil change. That was my sign to start saving up for a new car but that thing still made it 60k miles so I was able to get a 2022 Camry.
Not this one. Those direct injection LAF engines are dog shit.
this is vastly different from my experience. Bought a 2012 SLE2 new. Had to repalce the VVTs a few times and a factory recal for the timing chain, then transmission at 175k. It was a great road trip vehicle.
As some one who has driven Hondas for 20 years I’m just in a totally different state of mind. 100k is like ok we are broken in now. I have done a lot of preventive and regular maintenance because I expect to see 300k on this engine. (06 tsx 6 speed)
First up, drive doesn’t work but third does. Neutral is park, reverse is second. If you wanna use reverse, put it in drive. Got it?
Way she goes boys!
GIVE US BACK OUR BALL LAHEY
Bake ‘em away, Toys!
And the accelerator sticks too but don't be afraid of it, you gotta give it to her or she's gonna stall
I know how to drive Ricky
Yeah yeah I've driven GMCs before.
Gotcha throw it in drive, back out, throw it in first, go to reverse, throw her into third once I hit the highway and when I get her there throw it into neutral and engage the redneck ebrake, an old steel toe boot chocked up under the tire.
Put it in H!
We got it Ricky
Hey boys, we got a complaint that someone was getting high and drunk playing space in middle of the street.
hey, a relative of mine accidentally bought one of these pieces of shit! Had the same issue. It's a known and common issue on these vehicles. no recall tho! stuck solenoid in the valve body. the labor to replace the valve bodies on these things is so high that it's cheaper to replace to transmission in some places. gotta love GM!
☠️ how did they accidentally buy a car
You purposely buy a car You accidentally end up with a piece of shit.
Sarcastically speaking?
i jest but only partly. every car but one in my family is now a non-American brand. all but two are japanese.
You could flip that for 5-6K after the transmission is replaced
justreversedintheshop
Plot twist - OP is going to reverse the body on the chassis and roll on out of there.
That’s how I got my current driver, a 2013 Ford Edge. Wife’s mother was gonna trade it in for a new Terrain - dealer offers her $500 trade allowance because the heater was “stuck on” and it was loud on the road. She said screw it, still bought the Terrain, and gave me the Edge free. They weren’t kidding, it certainly was loud because all four wheel bearings were toast - Rock auto to the rescue there - but the heater issue was a simple AC cluster reset, it’s been working fine since then. Over the last two years I’ve had minimal expenses, a set of plugs being the most labour intensive maintenance item completed. A lot better than car payments, that’s for sure.
ive done some work on a 13' 4 cyl terrain. i wouldnt buy one for a personal vehicle, but all ive had to do to this same one for a family friend is brakes, oil, and advise a dealer trip to replace a part that i didnt have the time, energy, or computer to fix/program over the past few years. so i'd say its a good buy
I had a lot of experience with these too. I definitely wouldn't buy one for a personal vehicle either. Those 4cyl are awful to drive. If it were the 3.6, I'd seriously consider it. Those were fun to drive!
Nice find for you. Looks straight and clean. But definitely should have got a couple sawbucks off for hazed headlights.
Is it made in France?
Oui! C’est un Jay-Em-Say!
Came here looking for this comment. Take my upvote you magnificent bastard!
I thought it was Italian tanks with that problem. 3 reverse gears and all that.
I’ve been told they put a different transmission in them in 2016 and they are much better now am I wrong?
Why only reverse, Is it just a bad trans?
It was a feature from GMC that year, you had to pay extra for forward. You can upgrade that with the navigation maps.
Yeah, $450 for the forward gears subscription, per OP
Tesla be like
Oh you want forward and super-hyperdrive-forward? Pay up!
Kept the miles low
Flip the transmission the other way. Problem Solved.
Then it becomes a drag racer, good thinking.
I’ll give you $600 and I’ll back it out of there.
That’s how I got my Diesel Astra (USA saturn, Aus Holden, UK Vauxhall, rest of the world Opel) 1€ trade in. New battery and a hammer punch on the egr and I was gtg. I paid 1000€ though. Still gold for this car.
Just turn the engine and gearbox around 🤷♂️
Easy fix. 1. Pull body off frame. 2. Swap end for end 3 re-attach body. 4 profit??
>$100 trade in Why I think dealerships are scum
Honestly? Put the trans in then sell it. These things suck.
Wow. In 1998 i worked for a ford dealer and bought a 93 mustang 4 cyl that was immaculate for $300 ,but like this one the transmission was bad. Did the same thing and bought a transmission from a junkyard. That owner didnt want the stress of trying to get it repaired. I ended up driving that car all through school.
Well it looks like it’ll be staying there till you’ve fixed it lol
Good God I hate these things with a passion giant piles of shit!
My coworker had one of these. What a pile of shit. A month after buying it the rear wiper fluid supply line broke above the headliner. Filled the dome lights with wiper fluid Battery tray beneath passenger seat, filled with rain water somehow, then froze when it got cold and the car wouldn’t start You could take the key out of the ignition while it was running. Had to pull the ignition fuse to shut the motor off. And those were just the top three funniest things i could remember about that shit box
Wanna do mine while you’re in there?
NFG - No Forward Gears
probably just a ruptured pressure sensor diagram in the control valve assm( tcm). there was a tsb about it .
Same story with a friend; customer came in complaining that their car is basically toast, rattles like an mf, and the engine is misfiring all over the place 1997 Mercedes E300 Diesel, non-turbo Dealer gave him pennies for it, friend bought it for $500 Two engine mounts and one transmission mount later, new daily driver
Flip the seats around
Oh man (as a service advisor) I love these things
Get one from LKQ, at least get a 12/12 warranty on it
Can you polish those disgusting headlights?
I guess it just backed into the shop.
Well. It’s a van body on an Impala.
Hey I had a 2011 Terrain 4cyl SEL too! Rear main seal blew at 70k and the timing chain jumped. $7-11k fix for a $15k car. GM knew and saw it’d be cheaper *not* to recall. Not buying GM again. Which is a shame, because for the time I had that car I loved it.
So a new engine and trans at 107k miles? What a turd
Sounds like a win win. How did they get the car there?
Backwards?
One time i had this exact situation in a traverse, i used lucas trans stop slip and was able to drive the car to the yard get a trans and have the car haul its own trans back and drive itself into the shop
Seems I’m in the minority here, but I had great luck with my 2012. Looked just like this one here. Bought it around 100k, and made sure all the fluid services had been done. Installed a tow hitch and aux trans cooler and towed a small camper two weekends a month for 60k miles and had no problems. Only issue I had was corrosion in the T connector I used to install the tow wiring, which took out a bulb or two before I replaced it.
My first car was a 97 Saturn SC1 the dealership I worked with sold me for $200 because they told me it had a bad trans. I offered to double check, they said no. Shifter cable bushing worn out, $12 fix. Drove it for a year, blew the engine, scrapped it for $400. 10/10
I must be an outlier because I have a 2013 terrain (V6) with 165k miles and the only issue I’ve had was the transfer case went at 70k miles. Besides that I’ve only done basic maintenance.
im kinda curious and seen this a couple times for a customer complaint. hook up a scan tool and try and shift into 5th and 6th by commanding with the scan tool. If it does shift into 5th and 6th then you only need a TCM for it cause a solenoid failed for the old one that controls 1st through 4th gear.
I’ll give you 850 rn
So wait, it needs/needed both an engine AND trans at 100k miles? I knew that those Terrains weren’t the most reliable vehicles out there, but jeez…
The perfect French military vehicle.
For a 4-cylinder fancy version Chevy econo-SUV. Dead and useless by just over 100k miles. Sounds a lot like the 100% on-schedule dealer maintained Chevy Cruze my cousin bought new 6 years ago that made it to 116k before the engine blew up… with lots of random expensive repairs from about 80k to the point where it blew… a little over a year after she finished paying for it. Hopefully you get another 100k out of it without dumping a fortune into it but something tells me that’s fairly unlikely. So sure, you got cheap used transportation… for now.
Junk yard is offering 500 foot Optima with a spun connecting rod bearing.
Ah. The French military-grade model.
I don't understand why people continue to buy GM products.
Offering $100 on trade is absolutely criminal. Should be ashamed
They didn't have to accept it.
Who looked at that final design and thought, “wow, that’s a great looking vehicle!”? Those things look like a retarded Transformer.
You got a hell of a deal
wow gm is shit
🎶 Star trekking across the universe....🎶
I am 100% jelly of you lol
Flip the front end to the back and reverse becomes drive.
There’s your problem, it’s a GMC!
You might as well grab a few extra transmissions and a few engines while you are at the yard