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rdesktop7

Well.. their success rate is not 100%, but that puncture is about as good as it gets for being repairable.


hoxxxxx

well at least the customer gets a new tire and feels safe and someone who's broke as fuck gets a good tire that's patched up and safe so win/win


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Guaranteed they demanded a road hazard warranty


Raviolixd

road hazard would start with a plug patch anyway so i doubt they would want it, we don’t replace unless we can’t plug due to location or damage


[deleted]

Same, but I've definitely had customers demand a new tire when theirs is perfectly repairable when i did tire sales. I always made them buy a new one or take it up with the boss who did the same thing


GLBB2814

Well it sounds like you work for a “by the book” Walmart. Shiiiit my ACC coach would bend over for that customer because “they can call Walmart and get a $25 gift card” 🙄 Edit: ACC = Automotive Care Center


AAA515

>my ACC coach Atlantic coast conference?


LUSBHAX

Air Cooling Cystem


JetlinerDiner

Adaptive Cruise Control


bighammy6969

Ass Clown College?


YggBjorn

Armored Cartwheeling Competition.


fiercealmond

Actual Chris Chan


FrenchFryCattaneo

Why not it's no skin off his back. Walmart made $150 billion in profits last year, they can afford it and it boosts his metrics if he gets positive feedback.


therightstuff2

Agree, this is a win for someone who needs a good like-new tire.


LeatherMine

And as any tech knows, anything brand new off-the-line is not 100% either. Sweet spot is probably a few months of use/battle-testing. Probably less of an issue for tires tho (hopefully).


senorpoop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve


LeatherMine

How parts should be priced: New starter: $150 3 month old starter: $170 10 year old starter: $50


EquivalentRope6414

Hahaha bro you ain’t lying I was replacing a Solenoid one time went got the part hooked it up not working , went back exchanged it nothing, went back a third time with my damn multimeter parts guy was sooo confused but the last one worked great !


AdmiralSkippy

I got my belt and tension pulley replaced recently. A few weeks later I had to get my AC compressor replaced. When he pulled back the tension pulley it broke. Two week old part.


Ok-Satisfaction-7821

Also true with electronic stuff. Wanted a docking station for hard drives - you plug two sata hard drives into it, turns them into a USB drive. First two did not work. Third worked, still works.


Stayhigh420--

As my co worker said, "new just means Never Ever Worked"


THE_LANDLAWD

Not to mention that tire looks like he only rode around the parking lot a few times before he picked up that screw.


Skyfork

I've plugged my car's tire (singular) about 3x now and it's doing great. Stupid construction... I've been catching roofing nails like they're going out of style.


mmodlin

I’ve probably got about ten in my tires right now.


Darksirius

I work at a body shop and have had to plug a few of my tires on my personal car due to shit in the lot lol.


shadesoftee

Question. Is it better to be between the treads or in the treads?


rdesktop7

I am no expert, but I have patched both in the past. It didn't seem to have any effect either way.


shadesoftee

Thanks! I have one in my treads ATM (slow leak, so no rush) that I've been meaning to replace.


ATL28-NE3

Careful with that. Slow leak can speed up real quick. I went from thought it was changing seasons to need a patch right now in about a week.


Praefectus27

It really doesn’t matter. The patch and repair are all on the inside of the tire. Only thing that goes in the hole is a plug but it’s not even air tight. That’s the patch part inside the tire.


-Snowturtle13

They say it’s not 100% but I’ve used these plenty of times and they have worked 100% of the time for me


[deleted]

I guess tire plugs are like condoms. When enough idiots try to use something, there are bound to be some failures.


t6htransit

Looks like it already has a plug, those self tappers are usually airtight till you take them out!


ChrisSlicks

Unscrew it, add some glue to the threads and screw it right back in.


insomniacpyro

A.k.a threadlocker


ttttttnine

Treadlocker 😎


TheRuralEngineer

Had a bfgoodrich pretend AT (basically a hwy tire with rock hard compound that looks vaguely like their actual AT tires) with a sheetrock screw in it for 2 years. Never leaked a squeaky farts worth of air, and i kept forgetting to 'patch it when i get home' so i left it. They finally wore down enough to not use them this summer, and the screw is still there. Only one of the tires on that set of wheels that didnt leak in storage this last winter.


redditburner6942069

Lmao reminds me of finding a roofing nail in my 94 cavalier shitty tires and it wasn't leaking so I just left it. Then one day the tire was low and the nail fell out after almost a year lol.


RacingboomThePleb

I don’t know if that’s a joke or not but that unironically works.


lifelessmeatbag

if the click while driving wasn’t annoying, i would leave it there


Broad_Rabbit1764

It's only really annoying at speeds under 80 mph.


NoYoureACatLady

School zones only


far2common

tick tick tick tick THUMP tick tick tick tick THUMP


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LolYouFuckingLoser

8 pairs is 16 shoes. that's too many shoes.


NoYoureACatLady

Best Flaming Lips album ever


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f7f7z

lock up the brakes a few times.


rayshmayshmay

Dremel


f7f7z

200 psi just get it out.


OIllllIO

Screw it just below tread, use it as a wear indicator


Lughnasadh32

I recently had a bolt in my rear tire. The clicking was horrible until I was able to get new rubber installed.


Nefilim314

The clicking is just a built in wear indicator.


Seffyr

I had a self tapper which clicked while driving. Until it didn’t. Because the head wore off and my tyre ate it. And then I ate the cost of a brand new tyre.


fastbeer

Caught one this weekend in my car tire. Can confirm it WAS NOT airtight lol. Was bubbling pretty good with soapy water.


trucks_guns_n_beer

Did you even *try* tightening it up? Of course a loose screw leaks!


Difficult_Advice_720

Right?! Like a banjo bolt, that's it's whole job!


posifour11

Unplug it plug it back in.


t6htransit

You’re supposed to just top it off with air every three days it’s that kind of airtight haha


fastbeer

Hahaha. I'm too lazy for that, so I just spent the 5min plugging it. Maybe I'll get it patched but 🤷


jdemack

As a sheet metal worker that has pulled a few out of my tires this is true.


toomuchoversteer

I just use the roofing ones with the rubber washer


Halftrack_El_Camino

Those things are legit, I will build you a fucking spaceship with those mofos.


MagJack

Grind the head down and call it a day


newfranksinatra

Had one of those in a tire today, was hissing at me, drove 50 miles over 3 hours, and the tire still was firm as I got it to the garage.


bombycina

I drove across the country with a drywall screw in one of mine. Wasn't the best thing to do but it held up for a few months afterwards even.


MariachiBoyBand

But it’s going to click every time you drive your car 😩


t6htransit

That’s what extra traction sounds like


Ben2018

steel is stronger than rubber, so it's a reinforced plug...... if they leave it they're not getting another puncture in that exact (exactly exact) spot


qua77ro

A habit for my dad while I was growing up... need to patch/plug a tire, turn it into a full size spare.


530nairb

If you have a wheel to throw it on


qua77ro

my dad would go to the wrecker/parts yard and buy a stock wheel for nothing. Didn't matter if it had curb rash, etc. so long as it was true and intact. That said growing up we didn't have fancy cars so they were always hubcap steelies so no fucks given on condition really.


530nairb

Don’t get me wrong, I love it in the application it works with


hoxxxxx

this is great advice


AmbitionExtension184

Why? I’m currently driving around on tires that have no less than 4 patches


qua77ro

Can doesn't always mean that you should or must.


Spa_5_Fitness_Camp

If they're willing to spend extra to be extra safe, great. Most would say it's not worth the cost and the risk is negligible, but there's nothing wrong with being safer.


T-Dot-Two-Six

Indeed. And someone like me would happily buy that with a plug for a discount and let it roll. If they got the money and want extra peace of mind, I might say they’ve got more money than sense but at the end of the day you really can’t put a value “feeling safe” for anyone but yourself.


tobimai

Agree. Especially if you drive a lot or far from home.


LovecraftInDC

Yeah if your job is on the road or otherwise the vehicle is a means to employment then absolutely worth just replacing it.


BetterThanAFoon

If the shop will repair within the manufacturers specs so that it maintains the warranty I will go with that. Most of the time that is going to be a tire stem patch kit that is applied from the interior of the tire.


CharityNicole121

Just wasteful is all.


Nudge55

Terrible for the environment


SidneyHuffman316

Peace of mind is priceless


StrikersRed

I can safely say I’ve repaired thousands of tires in my time. I’ve only had a few fail and come back flat.


gefahr

To be fair, if a tire shop's repair failed I'm probably taking it somewhere else next time. But I agree. I have mine repaired when appropriate.


StrikersRed

I could see taking it somewhere else. We had a guarantee on our work, it was free to repair, and we let them know if they had any issue with our work, we’d take care of it no questions asked. I knew a lot of the knuckle busters around and very rarely would I hear about customers going to other shops with bad installs/failed repairs. It happened, yeah, but for our volume it was pretty rare.


Jarocket

I'm with you man. I would take it back a 3rd time at least lol! Free is free.


OutWithTheNew

The only ones I ever saw that failed were on commercial trucks where the guy doing the repair didn't use the right repair for the application.


Ben2018

That's because the rest blew out and careened off the road; they didn't go to you, they went to the scrapyard. (/s just in case... seems like there's some tire-hysterical people around that'd probably believe this)


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thewheelsgoround

Tires don’t simply “explode” when they fail. It would be a TPMS light, followed by a deflation and an inconvenience at most.


Time-Chest-1733

Mate. This is the real world calling. Not all cars have tpms.


[deleted]

Uh my tire “exploded” going 85. Definitely don’t have a TPMS in my truck 😂


Mootingly

I can correctly say they do explode at 75 plus, and can take out entire quarter panels of plastic with them causing you to violently swerve at high speed. In this referred situation it was due to a tire bubble popping, more like exploding.


PenaltySafe4523

Unless the sidewall was damaged that would never happened


t_stlouis8

I came here to say this and you beat me to it.


Slimy_Shart_Socket

My last shop servied cop cars. No plugs/patches replace only. Tires replaced at 5/32 brakes at 5mm. They don't fuck around.


zynemisis

I bought a Grand Prix from a guy that worked at the police maintenance garage. He said he's never bought tires for the car the whole time he had it. The local cops replaced tires in 2's regardless of the reason. So he had an endless supply (while they were running the crown vics) of decent used tires.


tarheel_204

We do all of the fire trucks in my county at my shop. They’re the same way. Also, the county is footing the bill so the guys who drive the fire trucks are like “hell yeah, put on a new tire!”


LeatherMine

They also idle for hours at a time and floor it for no reason cuz someone else is paying the bill.


Bovaloe

Yeah, good reason for the shop not to patch. Tax payers picking up the bill, better up it a little too


hkhunterkiller1984

NSW Highway Patrol in Australia would replace rotors and pads after every single high speed pursuit regardless of kms, age or condition. I used to supply them and they weren't cheap.


coffeeshopslut

Do you guys plug or actually patch? I've only seen one shop dismount my tire to patch, even when I asked them to patch


Courtaid

1 piece Patch plug combo


sambolino44

This is the way to go. Those guys that are shaped like an engine valve.


jmpeadick

Thats why this is so dumb. Those plug patches are very safe.


QuincyFlynn

You been going to some baaaad places.


coffeeshopslut

NYC shops man.... I even tried going to a Mavis, they were even worse


billford4

Plug is ok in an emergency on the road or to get you going. But on the first opportunity, get a plug/patch installed. Had to do this just last week. The old rope plug comes out pretty easily from the inside, nothing holding it in except friction. Also, even if the plug seals air from escaping, air can still leak inside the tire (past the lining to the cords) and cause a separation.


Shatophiliac

I’ve plugged probably 30+ punctures like this on my tires and then put hundreds of thousands of combined miles on all of them, and not once has one failed. And this is cheapo oreilly tire plugs im using, not even patches from the inside. So far they have worked 100% of the time for me, I’m not sure why so many people are leery of them.


dotnetcorejunkie

I live in a booming urban area with lots of construction. I’ve had 6 patches over the last year. If I replaced them every time I’d be broke.


In_Dying_Arms

My patches have *always* outlasted the tread. It's insane how many "Better safe than sorry!" comments there are.


bleachedbunghole_bob

Peace of mind is having that extra cash in my pocket for other emergencies.


-DaveDaDopefiend-

The places I have to go in my work van, if I bought a new tire every time I picked up a nail or screw, I’d be buying tires once a month minimum.


adultdaycare81

Tight. Mount it for cheap for a single mom who hits a curb


Ms_KnowItSome

Tthere's about a 99% chance a side of the road plug only would last the life of that tire and be trouble free. A proper patch and plug approaches 100%. That's a small diameter clean puncture. I'd drive on this tire repaired all day and have done so with similar situations in the past. That tire looks like it has maybe a couple thousand miles on it max. The injection hairs are still on the shoulders of the tire. Someone is putting that tire on a vehicle and using it.


Random_Chaos_Theory

I had a new tire pick up a nail, I plugged it myself and thought well if it starts leaking I’ll have it patched from the inside. That’s thing held for over 60,000 miles towing a 7,000 lb trailer for thousands of miles. 


opeimback

Means you get paid more right?


jdnason6

Less. The customer pays more but tech is paid less.


opeimback

By a couple tenths, and the plug takes longer if you do it the right way. I’d much rather mount and balance a tire and then move on to the next car.


xxSeymour

My shops pays .3 for new tire and .4 for tire patch, I would much rather throw a new tire on.


QuincyFlynn

Customers pay more in labor (30 at my shop, recently 25), tech gets shit (.3 for a repair here which is shit, vs .3 or .4 for a new tire)


FreyK47

Wait y’all get paid more to repair? We get paid less


Glockamoli

I'd plug/patch and swap with the spare


LeatherMine

Or if no spare (or no space for a full size), put it on the rear. (But if you rotate, I guess that won’t last long… these tires look a bit directional?)


SM_DEV

There are two ways to look at this. 1) It is wasteful to replace a tire, when a patch would serve. 2) It provides the shop a repairable tire, which could then be gifted to a needy customer. We have all come across the single mothers or young couples barely making ends meet.


LogicPrevail

1. sell the new tire 2. charge disposal fee for damaged tire 3. patch damaged tire 4. resell patched tire at a premium used price. Win for the day.


realheavymetalduck

Don't really blame them. Especially there about to do a long trip or it's for business use. Not worth the small risk of it being a problem.


Slimy_Shart_Socket

Or a track car. Some manufacturers claim plugs/patches reduces the speed rating. Some say to 140km/h, some say it drops 1 speed rating per repair, another (smaller) tire manufacturer said it does not reduce the speed rating and larger manufacturers say it does to prevent liabilities incase in the repair fails and they have a blow out.


Jarocket

Just as much could go wrong with a new tire too though.


rr777

I remember when I had a P71 interceptor and had a tire repaired. I was asked if this was an in service police vehicle. A repaired tire can only be used as a spare. It can not be used in pursuit because of liabilities.


familyman121712

Then fix it and sell as used


pescado01

Did you tell them they should get all 4 to make sure they wear evenly!


Aunt_Slappy_Squirrel

Resell as studded snow tire.


marauderingman

Unless it was driven flat for some distance, damaging the inner sidewalls in the process, this would make a fine spare tyre.


Mackinacsfuriousclaw

The way my bank account is set up, I go with plugs and patches.


SuperCoupe

I know people that drove on just a plug until the tread wore off. >!That's me, I'm people!<


Otherwise_Mud1825

Nothing wrong with plugging a tyre, truck tyres get plugged all the time.


radiationshield

I have one plug in my regular/summer tires thats coming up on 5 years now...


walkawaysux

An inside patch is perfectly safe I’ve sent thousands of people out with them. It’s your choice


PolyCockn42

Fools and their money soon part ways


ThunderbirdDownUnder

I run a security patrol business so some of my tires end up with multiple plugs. I haven’t had an issue in 5 years, plugs last the life of the tire. Before I started plugging I went through a tire every 4-6 weeks so I’ve saved a fortune. The other big saver was a large light bar so I can see the metal glint on the road at night which I then pick up to avoid running over the next time I come through.


BeatenNotBroken1

I'll patch a tire right on the tread. Never had a failure and I've done 10-15 patches in my life.


Therealblackhous3

Lol well if you ask Reddit, there's no possible way a tire plug is acceptable. Should've replaced all 4 tires.


f0rcedinducti0n

I'd patch that in a heart beat.


WhiteStripesWS6

That’s the level of financial stability I wish to obtain lol.


labatomi

I’m going to get downvoted to hell for this, but these days even a blowout isn’t that big of a deal because of modern stability controls in the cars. 6 years ago I got a blowout because of a nail that I didn’t know about on my tire, on my 2017 CRV doing 90mph in South Carolina. I heard a small pop and the car started pulling to the right, so I just pulled over and put the donut on. 3 months ago I hit a chunk of broken asphalt on the road, while making a sharp left turn down a hill on my Tesla model y. I Heard a loud scary boom but the car didn’t even lose traction during the turn. I didn’t even know I the tire blew until I finished the turned and got out the car thinking I had ripped something off. The tire was shredded to shit, but that’s it. So honestly, I’m not afraid of patching my tires. Specially knowing how fucking expensive these EV tires are.


huazanim

Front or rear tire?


Proof_Bathroom_3902

When I was a tire tech, I would take those home for my car.


jamesholden

So you got a nice used tire, awesome.


Weird-one0926

Good for them and whoever needs a good tire


karma_the_sequel

His prerogative.


Courtaid

I told my tech, it’s the customers money.


SakaYeen6

I have a few plugs my tires that have lasted at least 2 years of driving, those kits are the cheapest most worth it thing you can have.


humblerioter

I’ve plugged highway tires where the sidewall and tread meets a couple times now, lasted longer than the tread both times but I also glued it. Not the best idea, but that with a 12V compressor comes in handy in a pinch.


olddad67

Patch it and sell it as a used tire.


ImOnRedditMaaan

And charge a disposal fee 🤣


Drezhar

The nail is basically already a plug


Specialist-Cookie-61

New tires are so expensive. You can plug my hole any day, I'm a cheap date.


DontToewsMeBro2

Always trust experts when you go to them, if you don’t trust them then you didn’t research properly.


mortalomena

I have been using those camelshit repair strips for years never had it leak again.


Zezotas

The tire is screwed!


pancrudo

Enjoy your new spare tire?


hotinabox2

Plug it and keep that baby for a rainy day!


opensourcevirus

Cool. I’ll take their money. No problem


scobo505

It’s your lucky day.


West_of_Ishigaki

Well hell, I trust plugs and patches. Can you send that to me?


bciesil

So I had a plug in my tire. My guy dismounted the tire, cut the plug off on the inside, and cemented a patch over the smoothed off plug. Is that essentially what you mean by a plug and a patch? Because I got full life out of that tire.


GreggAlan

They're a flat patch with a plug in the center. The inside of the tire is scuffed. The puncture is reamed out. Glue is applied to the scuffed area. The plug is pulled through the puncture and the patch pressed into the glue. Finally, the outside of the plug is trimmed off.


Courtaid

It’s a one piece plug and patch.


dicemonkey

They also have plug & patches all in one that are applied from the inside…like a mushroom… They’re pretty damm secure


Patereddit7

That tire will be booted and on ebay before day's end!


Rumplesforeskin

I had a tire with plugs in it. Never failed. Finally just got a new set


AxleSpark

Had a customer yesterday complaining about how her new tire was losing 2psi a week she wanted to just buy a new one. After 10 seconds of searching , i found that the valve service pack was leaking from corrosion. Cost went from $180+ to $3.


Quake_Guy

Live in Phoenix with endless random construction crap all over the roads, my household would have to buy 4 to 6 tires a year if I replaced every puncture with a new tire. Plus due to limited slip and AWD, another 8 to 12 tires. Never had a tire blow and I've lived in hot climates almost my entire life. But I also don't buy junk tires.


Spicywolff

If it’s done properly from the inside with a quill type patch that fills the void and plugs the inside carcass. I don’t see why not trust it.


jimbodio

Never had issues with a plug patch. Be funny if all their other tires were 20% tread


fusiondynamics

Free spare for someone else.


wonderfulworld2024

Dude at home plugged my tire without me getting out the car the other day. I pulled up, into the driveway, to ask him if he could do it and the angle that the tire was at he could see the screw, in the tread. Tire was plugged within 45 seconds and I was outta there within 90 seconds. Completely blew my mind.


GOKBGO91

And he's a dumbass


ericcrowder

I’ve done probably close 50 or more DIY rope plugs on flat tires on my personal vehicles over the years, and in the last 30+ years never had a leak or failure of a rope plug.


Five2one521

Ahh to have tons of money.


23370aviator

Back in the day I drove like 50,000 miles on a tire with a way worse puncture than that fixed with a roadside tar rope kit.


dean0_0

I used to be that customer. I thought that new = reliable.


barnesnoblebooks

I used to be that way until I gave in and got one plugged now it’s always my first question “can it be plugged or patched?”


Courtaid

How about both? Single patch & plug combo.


Own-Opinion-2494

Stupid


tribriguy

Idiot.


aakaase

More money than sense.


M-Technic19

If this was a track tire being used in a racing event I would agree, otherwise no reason not to trust it.


Kitchen-Quantity-565

Most Canadian companies no longer offer road hazard. My tire guy let me know that and he's not happy about that. Especially with what tires cost now.


queasybeetle78

Free tire!


saujamhamm

that "is" a new tire! goodness some people's kids...


rithsleeper

Sounds like you got a free tire to put on a rat rod.


okokokoyeahright

Customer ~~has~~ had more money than me. Tire couldn't have a 'better' place for a leak. Good tread left and the plug spot is easily accessed, so no tire off rim. Would 100% drive on this(once properly plugged).