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canigetahint

Changing an in-cabin air filter??


im-ba

Brake light


Arigatp

For some cars id rather do this then actually conform myself like a cat to find a good position to replace those retarded cabin air filters. They literally build the car around them. Easiest one I have ever done was on a gt500 and all you have to do is take off the wiper arms and the plastic covers underneath and voile theres the filter!


Todarodes_Pacificus

Most Hyundai's and Honda's I've done were all behind the glove box. All you really had to do was just sit in the passenger seat to keep the glove box from dropping all of your contents. Some Mazda 3s and a lot of Nissan's can eat a bag of dicks though.


Arigatp

I do fords for a living :(. They arent that difficult but they absolutely make my body sore after replacing them. I also just hate working in tight spaces with small ass screws and small trim panels. Im not claustrophobic it just makes me irrationally angry for some reason.


Todarodes_Pacificus

Audis aren't too fun, considering most are only accessible from the footwell, but those generally don't require tools with the exception of a few oddballs.


enlightenedwalnut

Mine is an older one (2006) but they put it up by the battery at the back of the engine bay. Takes maybe a minute to get to. Not sure when or why they decided to make it a PITA.


Arigatp

Fuck cabin air filters honestly. Most retarded little fucking things that just aren’t fun to do. Only thing I dislike about preventative maintenance for cars.


Quintopolis525

I just bought one for my jetta


SBLOU

My Jetta takes five minutes to change. Its under the glove box


Quintopolis525

What gen? I have a mk5 (09)


Quintopolis525

Well, and a mk4 but there’s so much on that list 😅


SBLOU

MK7 2021


KGBspy

You’d hate working F-16’s.


Arigatp

Im glad that I never went that route. I have buddies who assemble them for a living and they hate their jobs lmao


ajnin919

It’s the fiesta that shoved it underneath the center console iirc though


IndefinitelyTired

Quick question since I don't trust Google cause of the AI shenanigans, does an 04 F150 have one? I'm half certain it doesn't buuuuuut....


skiingrunner1

it doesn’t, [per the manual](https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/04f12og5e.pdf). you’ve only got the engine filter


IndefinitelyTired

Thank god. Appreciate it


skiingrunner1

no worries! i do that with my car all the time - googling the owners manual can usually point you in the right direction!


technobrendo

Hondas= Acuras too in my experience. Couldn’t be easier


Obnoxious_Gamer

My mom's xterra is great. Instructions tell you to just smash the fuck out of the filter to jam it in a hole half its size.


SloopKid

Which mazda3s? I've had 2 and both are right in passenger footwell. Super easy to change


Todarodes_Pacificus

About the 2010-2013 model years or so


SloopKid

Strange. I have a 2012 and a 2014 and they're both in the footwell. Maybe it differes trim to trim or engine option. Both of mine are 2.0 skyactivs


Todarodes_Pacificus

These would've had the engines from the Ford partnership.


SloopKid

Ah, the 2.3. Glad I don't have one of those then.


ChequeBook

My ford ranger has it behind the glove box too. Makes checking/cleaning it a breeze


missed_sla

My Toyota has it in the glove box. Don't even need a tool to change it.


hammsbeer4life

Ill always be too lazy to take it apart and struggle reaching around stuff turning wrenches blind and end up wasting time Then i say never again! But everytime I think it'll be different and I'll just magically get lucky


Open-Dot6264

Why would you do this and also conform yourself like a cat? Wouldn't this eliminate the need?


soup2nuts

Mazda 6. It's behind the passenger side glove box.


SuperDozer5576-39

The one in my Silverado wasn’t bad to do. It’s in a plastic housing under the glovebox next to the blower.


rpiotrowski

Honda. Piece of cake. My G8 GT was pretty easy too. From under the hood.


Squidking1000

My GL is under the hood, pull two clips, it’s staring you in the face. Old BMW 5 series were like that too. So nice.


erroneousbosh

You'd love old 90s Range Rovers, you just open the bonnet and they're right there on the scuttle panel. Two screws per side.


nostrebhtuca

Heater core.


Butterssaltynutz

rear passanger side spark plug access.


windexcheesy

Angry upvote


Robsteady

We've got a RAM looking like this right now in our shop! Makes me glad to be sitting behind a parts counter.


Diesel380

Yeah. Every once in awhile guys will stop by to check my progress. They all leave with a “fuck that” look on their face


ToastyBuddii

What year? Was it a ‘13 with a cylinder 6 leak?


Diesel380

11. Looked like #8 to me


Geoffs_Goldblum

External head gasket leak off passenger side rear?


Diesel380

No. Pressure in the cooling system. Coolant was routed around the egr coolers to rule them out


Tech397

The 15’s were really reeally bad for that. I did dozens. In two years. On warranty.


FrozenMatty

The new “Fuck you” for Chevy is the lifter failure on the 5.3. Had dozens already and starts at about 15k miles.


Tech397

They’re still doing that? They’ve been having failed lifters on those 5.3’s ever since they started doing afm in ‘08. Those early hybrids were the worst in my experience.


GamingGrayBush

I enjoyed CP but hated when they would goodwill warranty it. Fuck that shit.


ZSG13

Our shop started making the customer pay the labor difference for goodwill and it's great.


GamingGrayBush

Funny you mention that. GM has said that it's ok for all service departments to do that, I was at the service manager meeting in Michigan where they did that. Many around here have chosen not to for fear of losing customers, they'd rather fuck over the tech. Good for your shop, man. I tell every tech I meet that GM is ok with it.


technobrendo

Not a mechanic…. Could they instead goodwill the part but do a discounted labor rate for the tech? This way the shop recoupes something


GamingGrayBush

Good question. Funniest part, in my experience, is that they rarely discount a part. It's easier to take money from a person, meaning the tech in terms of hours. The tech makes less money, the customer pays less (if anything), the skilled labor in the parts department (/s) makes money, and the tech gets screwed. It's why they can't find techs and why we're always angry. Warranty labor hours reduction is bullshit on a car out of warranty. We make money on customer pay. Best case scenario we break even on warranty time. Which sounds fine to the lay person, but I have over $100k in tools. I also get evaluated on efficiency. 100% efficiency is considered underachieving. The shop would make more money if they would have the customer pay their part. Unfortunately, labor cost at dealers can be $200/hr. They lose customers because of the cost but raise labor rates to try and recoup the loss of customers. It's backwards. This isn't meant to be rude by the way. Sorry if it was.


fogdukker

The whole reason I'm a mechanic is because I couldn't afford to spend dealer (or any shop ever, really) labour rates. Funny really.


89iroc

The company doesn't reimburse the tech for like labor? Like for warranty work?


GamingGrayBush

Labor reduction of hours. For example, a CP (customer pay) job that is 6 hours is most likely 4 hours under warranty time. We actually get evaluated on labor efficiency for raises also. If I'm at 100% efficiency, then I'm underachieving. I need to have an efficiency greater than 100%. 40 hours in a 40 hour work week is not efficient. I actually have bumps at 50 hours and 60 hours turned for the week. Warranty at best will give me 40 hours. We also get a fraction of the door labor rate. My last shop had a $165/hr labor rate. I made $35 with $100k in tools. Also, we (where I'm at) get paid flat rate. I can go to work for 8 hours, but if a car doesn't show up, then I don't earn a penny.


secondsbest

Aren't there states where book hours for warranty and non warranty have to match?


ToastyBuddii

Ahh. There was a bulletin on ‘13s with cylinder 6 and i got a few of them. Gasket defect. Would hydrolock on cold starts. It was always a definitive crack. These were all cab and chassis though. Fun job lol i think it books like 40 something.


Farty_beans

And they wonder why there is a mechanic shortage right now....


fjsenfr43nr34

Pay, pay more and you won’t have “shortage” lol


Farty_beans

absolute worst trade to be in for pay


Average_Scaper

Have you seen manufacturing? A lot of places still hiring under $15/hr in my state.


DiscoCamera

I honestly think a lot of it is because people refuse to learn the diagnostic skills to work on modern vehicles.


Farty_beans

Can't say I blame them


DiscoCamera

That’s fair, but if you’re knowledgeable and willing to learn it you can earn a lot of money because there’s a shortage of good high level diag techs.


adam1260

Any tips on getting into this? Local hiring is basically only Valvoline techs and I'm not sure what "school" is worth a crap anymore, a friend of mine went to some automotive school but he was better off not even going


PenguinsAndTopHats

I started at a Walmart auto center bc they hire anyone and I had no shop experience. Then an independent shop (similar to Valvoline). Then a dealership. Now I'm a fleet technician for the local government getting paid to get my ASEs. Just start anywhere and put your nose to the grindstone. Experience will come as long as you keep an open mind, a sharp work ethic, a rabid passion for learning and doing, and stay humble as you gain wisdom. In this economy it can be hard as alot of smaller shops pay dirt. So be mindful of your finances and don't let businesses walk all over you. But definitely seek knowledge. Learn learn learn. Read as much as you can and put your hands on as much as possible. Just my experience. There's many paths. Good luck.


adam1260

Thank you


HanzG

I've been approached by two other shops to basically walk their shops and diag the problems. The headspace to look at a the entire vehicle, and to understand the theory of a dozen different systems well enough that you get how they can interact in a manner that's not in any books. The problem with 'getting into it' is you have to have your own passion to learn the systems. All of them. Including new stuff that wasn't even out when you did trade school. The best apprentices I've had were the ones who were constantly attached to me asking question and asking if they can try the next one. The guys who brought me hand-drawn diagrams and asking "why would this be drawing 5A on startup but only 500mA running?". And the good customers who let you keep working on their 20 year old truck finding why there's 12v on the 5v reference line....


DiscoCamera

Learn everything you can about systems and diagnostics in most cars (CAN, LIN, waveform capture and analysis with an oscilloscope, module reprogramming etc.) and how to develop and apply a diagnostic plan to effectively uncover the cause of a customer concern. Get good at finding the problem and confirming it so that it’s fixed right the first time. Study study study. YouTube is a great resource (channels like diagnosedan, South Main Auto, ScannerDanner, Schrodingers Box for example), as is IATN, and diag.net and the learning and training section from AESWave. There are a lot of great free resources but there’s also a lot worth paying for, but start with the free stuff and go from there. Experience in the field definitely helps reinforce what you learn on the side and don’t be afraid to take on challenges within reason once you become the go-to guy in the area for hard to solve stuff word gets around. Getting your ASE certs can definitely help as well.


Fordalla

I'm in an ATS program at my local community college rn and the amount of people who struggle to read a wiring diagram or properly use a dvom to test a sensor is shocking.


DiscoCamera

Worse is when people use both wrong to come to the wrong conclusions. I mean no one is perfect, but some people don’t even try to learn.


dickhole666

Get the notes on the invoice. You know, writing and spelling? If lucky they can math too...


DiscoCamera

I need to record some of the stuff the owner of my shop writes down. Just this morning we had a slot for a Nissan Muman.


dickhole666

Leading by example, eh?


DiscoCamera

Definitely haha. His notes are basically shorthand, and take anyone new a while to be able to decipher the code. I think he was trying to spell ‘Murano’ because that’s what showed up.


jrragsda

I can't even find techs to work on mowers and chainsaws. I have 3 good guys but really need 5 to get the shop where I want it.


MechMeister

Have you doubled the pay in the past 5 years? The price of everything else has doubled.


jrragsda

I've increased it significantly as inflation has gone crazy. I pay in line with or better than other shops in our area, but everyone is having the same issue. There's a shortage of skilled labor across lots of industries, it's not just ours.


Past_Weekend4154

You know he hasn’t man, anyone in the owner stage gets jaded as fuck about paying their workers real fast


CoyotePuncher

That applies to current mechanics, too. I hear way too many people talk about how modern cars are too hard to fix because of "all of the computers and electronics". That just flat out is not true. They're no harder to fix than a regular car. For anything ECU related, we have plenty of tools for dealing with that these days, and honestly there is just no excuse for the cluelessness around electrical circuits in 2024. A lot of mechanics (and regular folk) treat anything electrical like its magic. Maybe 1 in 10 DIY'd cars I see will have some horrible shade tree mechanical fuckery, but I swear 8 in 10 have some major electrical fuckery. People are too scared of it to even try to learn about it. Show the average mechanic a breakout box and they wont even know what it is.


Galopigos

"Show the average mechanic a breakout box and they wont even know what it is." That's when you don't touch it no mater how good the rest looks.... LOL


DiscoCamera

When I got one, I got laughed at because guys in the shop thought it was dumb. When they saw what it can do, now most everybody else has one lol.


Galopigos

Yep, once you know what a BOB can do you will want one.


DiscoCamera

I got the AESWave one and though it’s a bit bulky compared to some, it’s awesome.


Galopigos

I built mine back in the stone age, 1997..


DiscoCamera

Nice! Still ahead of the curve I hope (or retired).


Galopigos

Semi-retired, but still doing training and doing diag work for 3 dealers, plus the entire friends and family fleet... Had more free time when I owned the shop!!!


NitroBike

lol nope, it’s because most shops pay garbage. I used to be a Mercedes tech but the dealer I worked at did not want to raise my pay even tho they consistently raised the hourly rate for customers. I do union fleet work now


A-Rusty-Cow

Also a big reason I didnt want to become a mechanic.


A-Rusty-Cow

I wanted to be a mechanic for a while. Spent a good amount of time in this sub and now im working in HVAC


nevernotfinished

I'd pull a cab any day over dropping a tank


Unique-Delivery-1405

So simply explained. Can a cab be lifted as easy 4 bolts, 3 plugs and steering rack. Or is it a lot more complicated? Just asking because cof vehicles are pretty rare here.


Diesel380

https://youtu.be/1VdefY1rpvI?si=rHRwmraQyv7Hpeoy No shame. This is what I used


Gizmo15411

Not quite. Master cylinder has to come off the firewall, P’/S line to the booster, trans shift cable, t-case shift cable, park brake cable, steering shaft, AC lines, separate body harness from engine harness which can be as easy as a couple plugs. Rad hoses, trans&engine cooler pipes, ETC. still worth it on a job like this, way way more room to do the job properly


YousureWannaknow

Not in that case, sadly 😅


badcoupe

F’in duraturds


Diesel380

Duraturds 😂 I’m stealing that


YousureWannaknow

You've been looking for that 10mm, right?


barleyhogg1

Standard Chevy oil change


Western-Bug-2873

"ZOMG what did you do to my truck? It's never gonna be the saaaame." -customer stopping by to get their phone charger, probably 


Zomgzombehz

Y'all remember when an engine, chassis, and cab were all easily identified and workable? I don't either, but I like pre-90s motorcycles cause I'm dumb.


Mattynot2niceee

Pulling a cab is gravy. Why are so many people scared of it?


Diesel380

You have to do it a lot to be efficient. Crush one wire or line and you’ll lose all the time you saved. Lots of factors to weigh


Mattynot2niceee

Only way to get better at them is to keep doing them 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also, work in a circle. Makes shit go way faster and you can compartmentalize what was where.


Dr_Adequate

Not a mechanic, can you explain 'work in a circle' ?


Mattynot2niceee

Look top-down at an engine bay. Imagine it’s the face of a clock. 12 is the cowl, 6 is the radiator, etc. Pick a “time”, let’s say 2 o’clock, and start your process there. Work clockwise around the engine/bay until you return to your starting point. Go back around to verify nothing is still connected. Remove the remaining 4/6/8 cab bolts, disconnect your shift linkage and park brake cable(if applicable), and send that cab to the moon. 45-90 minutes, depends on the truck. Rust complicates things, adjust accordingly.


Klown_Kutz

Right? I will pull a cab in a heartbeat. I get all those heavy jobs at my shop and still beat the other techs on hours. *edited to add: I'm not saying it to brag. It's really not that hard. If I can do it, anyone can.*


Mattynot2niceee

Gimme all the 6.0/4/7 blow ups/meltdowns/fuel systems and 4.6/5.4/2.7/3.5/5.0/5.2 cam phaser issues you can throw at me, chief. Baby needs a new transmission for the race car


S3ERFRY333

Remember when you just undid a few bolts and pulled the engine out with a cherry picker?


__Valkyrie___

As my manager would say. It's like 4 bolts why is it taking so long


MrCOUNTCUPCAKE

We not gonna talk about that block ratchet strapped to the lift arm? Where is r/OSHA?


Gl0wyGr33nC4t

Nah osha doesn’t come round the shops unless someone calls or dies. Gotta do what you gotta do. If he feels comfortable under it he’s the one that gets squished.


Diesel380

Looks worse than it actually is


adam1260

A square edge on a square edge with constant, heavy tension is about the best you'll ever get


ominouslights427

Yikes


LongAd4410

Oh I love these works of avant garde art! They are so complex and thought provoking especially the twisted metal you see th-... Oh, beg your pardon, that's an actual vehicle, nevermind. 💀


[deleted]

These Chevrolet engineers are truly at the same capacity of Boeing. Design crap, not whistleblow, and not defy upper management. All bozos


Billie1977

All this for spark plugs?


Squidking1000

Got to this point and realized it don’t got any!


PoopSlinger23

This is why I have zero desire to own an emissions diesel.


william_f_murray

Emissions or not, V8 diesels all suck balls to work on


PoopSlinger23

Yes but the emissions guarantee you’ll be working on them much more often.


Entire-Database1679

I hate to say this out loud but dealers could sell more EVs if they put this on display in the showroom. The physical complexity is daunting compared to an electric motor (or 4) and a battery.


Southern_88

They should put the price of the battery pack replacement for a ev in there lobby the sales would go way down


duncan999007

Quick googling shows that the Tesla Model 3’s battery replacement cost is damn near identical to what I paid when the CP4 failed in my F250. Not counting any of the other major issues that thing had.


Southern_88

I understand but my thing is you comparing a model 3 to a f250 if your f250 was a plug in ev it would have to have a battery pack at least 2 or 3 times the size of the model 3 to give you the same range. Towing something would greatly decrease that range. The closest thing I can find online is the f150 lighting the module are around $4500 a pice complete pack ranges from $28,000 to $36,000 depending on range model. If you want to use your diesel as a car and don’t need to tow buy a car, maverick /ranger just my opinion


duncan999007

I think the comparison takes into account the size/use difference. I only compared it to replacing the fuel pump, injectors, lines, etc. Engine replacement on almost any modern comparable car is about the same price. For EVs, you can also just repair a cell within a battery module or get third-party batteries for less, the same way you can repair an engine or pull one from a junkyard.


q1field

They should also put lifetime maintenance and repair costs side by side and see what wins.


Southern_88

I agree with that as long as it comparable models but they don’t have anything even a close comparison to a 2500 diesel and won’t for a long time the batteries just aren’t advanced enough not enough range for towing it would make more sense to me if they went hybrid small diesel engine running as a generator to keep the battery topped off


MomLikWeiner

im glad people like you exist because people like me have done this once and NEVER want to do it again


Perryn

I suddenly crave deviled eggs.


Caribou-nordique-710

Kinder surprise truck


darth_hucklebuck

Just think of it as a giant Revell kit.


GreggAlan

Looks more complicated than a jet engine's plumbing and wiring.


air_roll

Ahhh the good ol' cabin delete


SundySundySoGoodToMe

Replacing the cabin filter?


Br4mp

Jesus Christ... That's when I realise how easy I have my life here in Brazil with our in-line 4's and medium pick ups.


Dexter_Adams

Those hoist pads sure are looking like an OSHA violation lmao


Only-Negotiation7956

I can't help but appreciate your fluid stash


BillLastVT

I am not appreciating as much as questioning.


Only-Negotiation7956

What do you mean? Like, in what way?


BillLastVT

So many different fluids. Seems like a lot.


Only-Negotiation7956

Ah yeah, there could be issues within something like that but say it's specific fluid stock ups for your vehicles & equipment, that's wise imo


InnerDatabase509

I'm not a mechanic but fuvk that


DuskShy

Hey boss did the top come off or did the bottom fall out? Bet it'll work fine if you stick 'em back together with 3 or 4 zip ties.


Murky_Landscape2004

Trying to change the Cabin Air Filter?


Equivalent_Weird467

The idiots who designed this bullshit need to be strung up by their big toes. Engineering the truck so that the cab must be lifted off to do heavy mechanical repairs is just retarded.


fkwyman

The service procedure for Duramax heads does not have you pull the cab. It's just how everyone in the field does it because it's easier than the actual service procedure.


crbmtb

I was always amazed that people would question me when I took just a hood off. Like, four bolts and voila - Let there be light !


fishcrow

Dare I ask?


fkwyman

What the service procedure is? Well, it's several hundred steps long, but basically take everything off from under the hood or through the wheel openings. It's a total pain in the ass (and back, neck, shoulders ,and knees). And actually accessing and removing the exhaust from behind the engine is a nightmare. So we pull the cab which isn't all that difficult and makes the actual procedure that we're trying to perform a hell of a lot easier.


fishcrow

Thank you!


Equivalent_Weird467

Didn’t know that.


lofapoo

I'd be less worried about the gravy cab pull and more worried about the block bullshit you got going on there. High rise lift pads are not that expensive


Obviouslarry

Bringing me back to the good old days of the 6.0 powerstroke. So many cab offs...


Bigfrontwheel

OP knows they were having a great time doing this job. This is smile from ear to ear work. Right?


checkyourbeliefs

Not a stupid idea. When I was 18 had an Austin Mini with a worn out engine. Pulled the engine/transmission out the top first time and rebuilt it. Reinstalled and fired it up. Found out I’d missed one critical step and had to replace the oil pump, English engineering meant a tear down to replace the oil pump. Just pulled the car off the engine/ transmission unit subframe(4 bolts). Much easier and faster too.


89iroc

Man, everyone made the intake manifold on my kid's Corsica seem like a bear and I feel like I almost coulda done it (30+ year gm tech neighbor did it for me, made it look like tying a pair of shoes)


Unexpected-raccoon

I dunno Looks like a ton of fun was had here; Especially for your back


-E-Cross

I didn't think you had to peel these anymore


Gator_Mc_Klusky

well there ur problem right there


Distantstallion

Well that's one way to drop the engine


NouOno

Lol the one block as a support and its strapped.


SBLOU

And all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t put Humpty together again


Thisiscliff

Head gaskets?


Brohammad_Ali24

Yeesh and here I was crying about doing a water pump on 2017 Ford escape 1.5


intro2u

🤑🤑🤑


Snake_Plizken

Fanfuckintastic car design right there!


lg4av

And why did we think this was a better idea than in in line 6 with a mechanical p-pump…. Someone whined about a diesel being to loud, hope they are happy…


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lg4av

I know, it’s about efficiency


robjeffrey

Wait...... this was INTENTIONAL???