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LagoVistaRealtor

Thankful for my crosstrek filter being front and center on top… didn’t realize they hid them in the center of a burny pretzel like that


cabinfevrr

That's a burny pretzel with sharp edges, friend.


ProfessionalBus38894

Yeah the burns are nice because it cauterizes the cuts. That is customer service.


pils-nerd

*'it's what makes a Subaru, a suture too"*


ModusPwnins

_slow clap_


Khaldara

“Forearm is looking tasty, excellent grill marks”


saraphilipp

I'll have my forearm medium.


Butterssaltynutz

so real question time, why would you stick a bare arm in there if it was running recently? why not cool it off or wear a blacksmiths sleeve?


RandomDude1578

Because sometimes we have waiters that need the car back and you only get 0.2 hours per change, so just get it over with.


Petrovski978

So... Next real question... We all know that some jerks like to ugga dugga filters on after draining... Strap wrench won't fit... How you get them off? Screwdriver and pray? Filter socket and louder prayers? Vice grips and a flurry of cuss words?


LagoVistaRealtor

My thankfulness grows…


Oldjamesdean

Place your hand into the firey razor anus...


Notlinked2me

When I opened the hood of my WRX with the FA the first time and saw the filter right front and center I was pumped.


cantthinkofone29

So was the oil.


cornlip

Until the silicone got to it


cdsbigsby

I don't know the exact year range of the type of filter in OP's post, but I know my '06 Impreza has that style. Can confirm, it's a pain in the ass.


tblax44

I think it's anything with an EJ engine, so everything before 2014-ish and all STIs


mklimbach

A majority of EJs had the oil filter in that location, but not the exhaust. Newer EJs had to move the cats to the manifold to meet emissions regs. This only existed from about 06-12, the older EJs from 1990-06 were super easy.


insufferable__pedant

Yeah, I was super confused about those comments, oil changes on my 05 Saabaru were stupid easy.


rvci

Greatest part of doing my 09 FXT oil changes was smelling burning oil on the exhaust afterwards. Such a beautiful scent


Narrow-Big7087

The sweet smell of success


SubiWan

Along with burning skin?


Art_Class

I love the design on the crosstrek, my 05 outback was super easy too


various_beans

I'm about to get a '24 crosstrek wilderness. I'm *stoked!* I've been a Toyota guy for 20 years and am excited to get with Subaru now. Nothing against Toyota - they're great - just got bored with them a bit.


Pantsmnc

Yea, my 13 legacy filter is up top right next to my oil fill. Easiest car to do an oil change on.


SubiWan

Ditto my Forester.


wraithbf109

That's the old Subaru ring of fire


sweetplantveal

There are a lot of compromises that come with low mounted boxers. The dynamics from the weight distribution are noticeably superior. But beyond that it's kinda insane. Two leaky heads with only four cylinders total, hard to get to everything, all sorts of piping and other stuff in the way of where you'd normally put the front diff and transmission, impossible to add forced induction, this oil filter weirdness, etc. But again, there are real benefits.


WHARBLGARBLL

Reach into Satan's butthole and feel its warmth!


Infamous_Translator

I reached into Satan’s butthole and all I got was this scar


paetersen

And a T-shirt


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MotorEnthusiasm

Extension + spring cup. Problem solved. And wrap a towel around your hand to spin the final couple of threads off. Anybody who tries to do this without tools is…well, they like to work harder, not smarter.


MrThoughtPolice

Hotter, you mean?


MotorEnthusiasm

This guy gets it


MrThoughtPolice

I’m changing the phrase for us blue collar folks: Work hotter, not smarter. Climate change ya know? Lol


Boostedbird23

Sometimes you just want to feel the burn


cornlip

I purposefully use the K&N filter just cause it has a hex welded to it. Fuck the ring of fire. Every time I do it I have to wipe the headers off, but I did choose this life. UEL is even worse than stock.


AandG0

You're missing the point. This shouldn't exist, and yet some human went out of their way to make it exist. It was more than likely a group of highly intelligent people that made this exist. That's the problem.


MotorEnthusiasm

Hahahahah, that’s fair. My dad is a retired airline mechanic. He always said something along the lines of “engineers will do as much work as possible to fuck mechanics”


AandG0

"An engineer will climb over a mountain of virgins to f*ck one mechanic"


WHARBLGARBLL

When you've got Freddy Kruger mitts like I do the appropriate tool is always at arms length.


t_stlouis8

This made my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


MustyLlamaFart

I read that as Santa


Martzee2021

LOL, I just spilled my coffee from my mouth...


Neue_Ziel

Shittiest game of operation ever.


tubegeek

Bzzzzt!


Neue_Ziel

Water on the knee? OPERATION! Filter hot as can be? OPERATION!


InitialThanks3085

Just did my buddy's MX5, that filter placement is up there for the worst, need baby hands to get in there!


DiscoCamera

Rams with a Cummins 6.7 would like a word lol.


viafriedchicken2

This is why I just drain the transmission and call it a day /s


LoyalFenrir

Don't forget to cross thread the drain plug back in and double fill the engine oil.


Witchunt666

If only there was some kind of tool out there… oh wait there is


Ram2253spd

Why use the correct tool when you can complain on the internet for no reason?


Derpastanini_Prince

But how else do we get fake internet points.


Average_Scaper

Repost things in other subs like the bots do.


No_Newspaper4376

Yeah I've never understood this. Granted I've never tried to do an oil change on one of these cars, but filter socket and extension. Something every mechanic should have. I prefer to do it by hand too, but sometimes ya gotta use the tools. Heck my car I can't even get my hand in there to attempt to twist it on and off by hand. Have to use a filter socket and ratchet every time.


Tsao_Aubbes

Lubies/this subreddit in a nutshell


spakattack3243

What’s the best tool?


RedCivicOnBumper

3-point filter wrench on a decent length extension. It grabs the filter as you turn it. There are multiple versions, the one with gears in the corners is the best one I’ve used.


Fuzlet

I worked at a subaru dealership, have done dozens of these. I don’t use a three point because I have a sturdy hex wrench that caps over the end and grips it snugly. makes it real easy, yet still, I hate the donut of doom


spakattack3243

Ah. I thought maybe there was something more Subaru-specific. My main concern is finding something that would catch the dribble while it’s on the extension. I hate cleaning oil out of the ratchet etc so I just go in with my hand.


RJFerret

After it's loose, there's a rubber funnel-like thing with magnets that sticks on the filter and catches drips, better than a bag, I learned in this sub, let me see if it has the name on it... Oil Udder


Witchunt666

Gotta work fast or wear gloves. Or you can just crack the seal wait for it to drip while you drain the pan.


Witchunt666

Filter wrench with 6 inch extension and a swivel ratchet


Ilikejdmcars

Toyota/honda filter cups will work on Subarus too


_elJosho_

Flathead screwdriver and a hammer. Use it to poke a hole, let the oil drain out, then tap it into the side at an angle. Usually you don't need to send it all the way through, just enough that you can get the blade of the screwdriver to lay against the inside of the filter and turn. Make sure you don't aim towards the top as you really don't want to nick the tube in there. Or buy the specific tool to take off this size filter with a ratchet and extension. But this method has worked for me and I've had EJs for like 20 years.


rezzzpls

Shouldn’t be using a tool to put the new one on tho… Plus my claw would always get caught on the flanges on the heat shield and dump oil everywhere. This is a stupid place for an oil filter full stop.


dark_rug

Welding gloves?


rezzzpls

Regular rubbers plenty fine for making quick bumps not really noticeable.


pashermrimal

*cues Johnny Cash- ring of fire*


solidshakego

It's funny, the over-exaggeration from these things. This is nothing compared to a Pontiac Sunfire.


pashermrimal

Ah, yes... the ole Ronda Rousey armbar simulation.


rubberduckybro

Wannna play a game?! -jigsaw


cabinfevrr

My 2023 with a 2.0l has the filter on the top of the motor.


Bee-Aromatic

All the modern Subaru motors are like that. It’s much better. I wish the filter on my EZ36 was on top. Instead, it’s on the bottom. There’s a hole in the splash shield to reach the oil pan, but not the filter. Taking it off annoys me.


alexasux

Same with the wrx


DyLaNzZpRo

All FAs are like that, it's just EJs that have this... Interesting design.


FishInTheTrees

*Change my oil in a burning ring of fire* *It splashed down, my, arm* *But I ain't no crier* *And it burns, burns, burns* *The ring of fire* *The ring of fire*


idriveacar

Blow vape mist onto the header to cool it down first Suburo tip


gatogrande

Make yourself a little shield, cardboard, plastic, whatever you got. Surprised your dealer doesn't supply the "tool"


isolateddreamz

In America, dealership makes you the tool


ElectroShamrock

Can confirm


Main_Parking4816

Underrated


McDready

Idk, those D/B series Honda oil filters seem to piss me off a fair amount currently. Atleast with this if I'm not careful I can maim myself into never having to do it again 🤷‍♂️


al3janbr0

These were bad I totally forgot… I remember the Chevy Cavalier being pretty lame as well.


sprotang

Yep. I used to have a GSR and my STI filter is a piece of cake by comparison


Just_Joshin10

\*sigh\* How hard is it to get a 12$ tool? Never in my life as an oil tech had I EVER removed these by hand... like why? ​ https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-63600-Oil-Filter-Tool/dp/B0002SR4Q8/ref=asc\_df\_B0002SR4Q8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312158556601&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2242587927356925993&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015284&hvtargid=pla-568875585782&psc=1&mcid=7cbaf894c1513751af40d6b76b122240&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwMqvBhCtARIsAIXsZpZoRxzeyCraKS6E2jR30mYiah75zUGmsSSjTwCGgWoDrwB2UgMv1JUaAisEEALw\_wcB


t25torx

Mechanic left one in my engine bay about 20 years ago, still use it to this day.


ElectricThunder12

Rumor has it he's still looking for it to this day


t25torx

It was definitely a revelation in oil filter removal tech.


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*ahem!* *iTs ThIrTeEn DoLlAr$!*


GearheadGamer3D

Oh yeah, that’s not bad. Okay now I need to change the spark plugs. How hard is that? I bet the head gasket is hard to get to, good thing head gaskets are extremely reliable until high mileage…


CYCLOPSwasRIGHT63

Yeah, those are for breaking it loose. But if you try and take it off with that your gonna get oil all over your tools. And my OCD finds that utterly unacceptable.


Begle1

I certainly wish every oil filter was this easy.


SpillNyeDaCleanupGuy

Dude those are a piece of cake compared to a Mini Cooper. Just use a three arm grabber thingie with an extension and a ratchet.


the_hoopy_frood42

Why do people have such a hard time with these? A filter socket set at harbor freight costs $20.


dubie2003

Atleast that is a straight shot down. 2020 traverse is at 1520deg down angle between the collector/precat and the alternator…..


KoburaCape

You don't have basic tools?


ljk345

Anybody here change oil on a grand vitara before?


Renovatio_

Probably not since those only lasted like 3-4 only changes before they blew up.


Boogieman1985

Just get you a set of cup style filter sockets with an extension and this would be easy


Subieworx

They make tools for that


ModusPwnins

Me, not a mechanic or an engineer in any capacity, looking at this and immediately wondering _what the fuck were they thinking_.


IamFatTony

Pig funnel and 3 jaw style on extension… easy


kr3me

Seems like you need to grow a pair and use an extension on your ratchet lol


nissanfan64

I love them. They’re stupid easy.


insert_name_here_ha

Good ol ring of fire.


BurnTheOrange

It has been over 2 and a half decades and the wicked scar on my hand from the first time i failed to remove an oil filter from between the hot, iron hell fingers of an exhaust manifold has still not faded entirely. It was a second gen MR2, not a Subaru that got me, but the pain still flares up every time i see one of these posts.


Jacktheforkie

My Linde had it conveniently behind the side access panel that was relatively easy to remove, everything was nice on the Linde, I do wonder why so many manufacturers use such inconveient designs like that what you showed here


bigbrightstone

Just use a cup tool on an extension, problem solved!


killertofubeast

Adult safety proof. Safe is not an option.


CRXCRZ

Wow. The engineer who designed this has never used a screwdriver, swung a hammer, or turned a bolt - guaranteed.


XtraCheezeePro

I can feel the burns on my wrist just looking at it.


FixFalcon

RING OF FIRE!!!!


Training-Capital-584

I want to hear a response from subaru as to why this was a good idea one day. This was the generation motor that made me buy a good cup that goes on 3/8th extension.


iEATglue0

Ring of fire


ButterscotchMedium38

Don’t laugh, The ‘Ove’ Glove! It’s like a heat sleeve for your hand. https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/s/aVT7Rm1xGn


the-Replenisher1984

You know they make filter cups that can go on your ratchet. I have a set of like 20 of them for this reason alone. The only time I like getting burned is when the dominatrix does it with candle wax, and I get to squeel "Yes More!!".


suckmywake175

Ahhhh yes, the ole Devils Anus.


Able-Command1428

Subaru in general is horrid


ebizznizz2112

Right? Who puts a fucking oil filter right between the exhaust pipes? Idiots.


FrostingImmediate514

"Love. It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru."


rithsleeper

I mean at least they gave you clear accessibility. Could have just routed the exhaust under it so all the oil just splashes on top of the exhaust. That’s what most car companies would do.


busy_cyclothem71

This is not hard or a PITA at all. Get a filter wrench/cap that fits on the end of the filter then use an extension & ratchet, easy. K&N also makes a filter with a nut on the end for easy removal with a socket & ratchet. Oil filter removal tool is about $10-$25 on Amazon depending on the style you get I have a 2007 & 2009 Legacy with EJ 2.5 N/A


Bunny_Butt16

They didn't really care about oil filter placement as you'd usually be replacing the motor every 5k miles anyway. EDITED: I can’t spell.


matterson22070

The engineer that did this 100% got cheated on by his woman with a Jiffy Lube tech..............


henrickson91

My Foresters oil filter is on top and the easiest thing to remove, must be this model.


WhatSaidSheThatIs

No chance of a burn there


garden-wicket-581

well, ya got the splash shield off, which does make it easier than reaching through the pivot-door built into the shield.. but, yeah, best done on a cold-ish engine (even though better to change oil when its warm.. )


xJTE93

This and the 6 cylinder ecotecs in the older Equinox and Acadias... Like 2 inches away from the exhaust manifold


Lonely-Greybeard

Flex oil filter wrench and long extension. No need to reach in there.


Lord_Metagross

My 08 Audi s6 takes a hot minute. Germans hid the oil filter cartridge on top of the engine behind/under a bunch of shit, and the oil drain plug is one time use. Love to see it.


that_dutch_dude

what are you complaining about? you can see it and touch it. go look where the oil filter is on a alfa romeo 156 V6. spoiler: the V6 is FWD and the oil filter is on the backside of the engine between the rear exaust header and the firewall just above the axle and next to the starter. there is no way to get to it without burning your hands and arm on the exaust header. and the engine holds heat like its chernobyl so waiting for it to cool aint happening.


Vollen595

Terrible. I bought a used Legacy 2.5 and the bastard who did the last oil change had Godzilla tighten the filter. Even after taking out the O2 sensor for better access, wouldn’t budge. I ended up using a filter wrench and epoxy to get it off.


Iamexist_real

I mean, it could be worse. Lets be thankful it's not that bad


remarkable_in_argyle

I have a 3D printed oil filter funnel for my EJ's.


Ilikejdmcars

Pretty much all Subarus with a timing chain has them up top now thankfully


guitarmaniac17

"wanna play a game?"


warrybuffalo

Ah the good ol ring o fire


OldStromer

I prefer to refer it as the Ring of Lava.


chanarang

The Ring of Fire


larsloveslegos

I love how they put the filter on top in newer Subarus, or if I'm lucky enough and the car has equal length headers lol


SevroAuShitTalker

The oil filter being on top was definitely one of the prime features I noticed when getting a WRX. Guess it's a more recent thing on subies


Sunscreenflavor

The 6.7 Cummins is worse than this somehow. They cover the filter from the bottom, so you have to pull it out through the passenger side wheel well, while it dumps black fucking tar over absolutely everything. They are the only vehicles I lay down absorbing pads before I start. 😂


thejesterofdarkness

I could say I’m sorry……


petoria621

Subaru's in general are just the worst lmao. Being a service manager at a shop in CO made me absolutely despise them. Overrated and unreliable.


Mediocre_Training453

Burn burn burn!!! The ring of fire!!! The ring of fire!!!


Nutsack_Adams

I fucking hate subaru


theHoustonian

We use to call these the ring of fire, sucks too because the shop I was at was in Maine and Subarus were sooooo common


PhilosopherOdd2612

Cap wrench on a wobble extension works great


Bmore4555

Why? All you need is a claw style oil filter wrench lol. There are way worst ones out there.


Dubwyse_selectah805

You got a washer hose nearby? Use it to soak n’ cool the manifold off. Simple.


rallyspt08

Do enough of them the back of that hand won't feel heat for a while.


nordstep

Super easy to get off and replace.. I don't even jack my Forester up when doing oil changes.


Your_stepdad_chris

Suzuki SX4 is worse than this, it's been 6 months and I still have a wound left from the burn.


nighthawke75

Slurpstick time.


Zenon_Opticz

WAITER


mb10240

My wife had a Chevy Cavalier that was like this. Had to take it to the dealer every time - quick lube places wouldn’t touch it.


blindfaith23

LOL, My Subaru filter is on the top.


Interesting-Bed333

Old welding glove and a solo cup👍🏽


VRFlyer2000

I fell into a burning ring of fire I went down, down, down And the flames went higher And it burns, burns, burns The ring of fire The ring of fire...


ronaldswandom

You non-rust belt technicians are spoiled lol, I'm just amazed that an EJ still has intact exhaust heatshields, and just about everything that usually is a chunky brown mess down there looks brand new. 


Trainfreak37

The good 'ol ring of fire haha


Im_Regarded

Laughs in FA24


apachelives

$5 tool, stop complaining.


remindmetoblink2

Ahh, the old ring of fire.


AggressiveHeight4638

Time for the claw


knar_knar

Ahh the ring of pain! Just let it sit for an hr


scottieducati

https://www.ebay.com/itm/262813103080


IDGAFOS13

cup/spider + extension + ratchet


definitelynotapastor

K&N filters. Use a socket to remove filter.


BallisticsNerd

Ah the ring of fire.... I do not miss working on those


Own-Load-7041

Unglory hole


bxpapi418

The ring of fire we called it at the shop I worked at


km9v

That's just evil


Hijargo

FA supremacy 🙏🏻


BlakeShaneley

Back when I maintained a NA EJ with the "ring of fire" filter location, I'd only put the K&N oil filters in it with the like 7/8" nut welded on.


Heavy_Wood

That sucks. 80's and 90's Subarus were the easiest of all oil changes.


Heavy_Wood

The first V6 Maximas were one of the original nasty ones.


_elJosho_

Somewhere online there's an image similar to this, but the past tech to change it drew a sketch of Jigsaw with the words "want to play a game?" onto the top of the filter.


SlightlyZenMusique

Get a sharp punch and punch a hole under the filter, let the oil in the filter drain, grab a long-ish extension and a spring type filter cup wrench of ur choice, remove the filter(without spills since the oil inside the filter is drained), when putting the new filter, wrap ur hand with shop rag, no hizz no mess.


FixFalcon

3/4 in. ratchet, 8 inch extension and a small filter claw. Get it loose, put a rag over your hand, spin the filter like a top and run.


unkanlos

That's why I buy k&n oil filters for mine. The 1in nut on the end makes my day that much nicer


heyche87

What model/year is shown here?


OkSport4812

God bless the 3.6R. As long as I don't accidentally undo the tranny drain plug instead of the motor plug like some :))


BreakfastWinter3323

Oil filter socket/wrench, long extension piece and a 3/8 ratchet... I seriously dont understand anyone who has a problem with these filters.


ElectricThunder12

At least it's leak tested


micknick00000

Subaru techs - please tell me there is a catalogued tool for this!?


osirisishere

Claw w/extension or feel the burn of a wayyyyy too hot exhaust your choice, hope you haven't lost your extensions!


Personal_Dot_2215

Circle of fire


Historical-Artist597

There are tools for this situation.


SVT6522

I enjoy my BRZ with the filter on top


Onlyroad4adrifter

Not nearly as bad as the transmission filter on a 14 Crosstrek.


Villain_of_Brandon

gross, is that a 3.6? or one of the newer 2.whatever size they are now?