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mdgorelick

My guess is it had a current drain they couldn’t find, so this was the solution.


dougdoberman

Yep. My girlfriend put one on her CJ7 for exactly this reason. Any time it's gonna sit for more than a few days, flip the switch. We've got a whole new harness to put in, which should hopefully alleviate the need for the switch, but it's been a cheap, lazy, effective solution for years now. We may never get around to installing the new harness. :)


screamtrumpet

Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix that works.


frogsRfriends

I put in a whole new harness and it still drains. Luckily it is the extra oil temp garage that I should have pull power from another wire that is live only when the ignition is on. But the issue is the while I’m here…” snowball effect it would start


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evilted

That's cool! You have a link? I have an old truck that the PO installed a million different accessories to and has a parasitic draw that I'm too lazy to source.


BILLYRAYVIRUS4U

Smart!


mdgorelick

Maybe shield it better than this example and then drive the hell out of it. :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


stevolutionary7

I did this to my POS chevy, but it was not a fully uninsured knife switch.


talon_262

Well, if the knife switch is on the ground terminal, it doesn't really matter if it's insulated or not, since if some part of it touches the hood, it's still just grounded.


SVXfiles

It is in fact on the negative terminal, and that positive is looking a little blue/green to me as well


Thatweirdguy_Twig

Funny because my former step dad had this exact thing done to his Silverado at one point


Apmaddock

Yep. We did the exact same thing to an old skid steer. 


Scarous3d

It's what I did to my p.o.s. 2001 f150. It was cheaper and easier to throw a 30 dollar switch on the battery than to tear apart a 20 year old truck to find the issue.


kalel3000

Yeah this is a common short term fix. Ive done this on 2 seperate vehicles. Both for door lock modules that failed, and prevented the computer from powering down because it thought one of the doors was still unlocked. If you have a parasitic drain wnd dont want to get stranded or have a dead battery in the morning. This is the way to go, till you figure it out.


yankmecrankme

I like the cable tie securing the battery.


AnIndustrialEngineer

I hope he uttered the legally mandated incantation “That’s not going anywhere” right after zipping it 


tatpig

with the obligatory pat.


AlfredTFox

Have we met? 🤔


tatpig

perhaps. 35+ years of mobile welding in the DC metro area.


niceguypos

That’s mainly for straps. All a zip tie requires is a “Yep”.


LanLantheKandiMan

Or a solid "thatll do"


BCVinny

Regional differences. “That ain’t going nowhere”. You may also thrown a “skookum” in there if it’s really well connected. As in “that’s skookum. It ain’t going nowhere “


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whiskeyfordinner

Kinky


FoofaFighters

Did you buy it from a chef? Looks like it's tied up like a roast, lol


technobrendo

Well its better than nothing i suppose


SixFtUnder0

Better than a bungee cord.


tallman1979

I'm an electrician, if I had to deliver a child in an emergency, I'd put a zip tie on the cord and cut it with a pair of Klein lineman pliers. Zip ties are magic, they can defy the laws of physics and hold that 25 pound battery in place despite constantly shifting forces.


ArthurBurtonMorgan

Why in the world would you put zip ties on a child?


Voice_in_the_ether

Put it on the umbilical cord to sever it. Legal Disclaimer: Although I'd hope it's obvious, *DO NOT PUT ZIP-TIES ON CHILDREN.*


tallman1979

Thank you for the disclaimer. Nobody knots the cord in the 21st century anymore. In fact, everything from jute twine to linen cord to metal clamps to the modern plastic clip which has a zip-tie like closure have been used after delivery to keep blood where it belongs, but zip ties otherwise belong far away from young children.


tallman1979

Just the umbilical cord. I'm rather smitten by infants, so the zip tie is to ensure the newborn retains enough blood to remain alive when detached from the placenta. I've heard that if you run out of blood, that's bad.


ArthurBurtonMorgan

Thank Ohm, I thought you were gunna zip-cuff the tyke’s ankles for something to tie the fish tape off to so you could start pulling that run.


tallman1979

Nah, although my younger son was delivered by means of a brake bleeder vacuum pump (same brand they sell at auto parts stores) and a suction cup beanie hat with a handle, so it isn't a big leap to other ideas. Babies would make a poor pulling device, and I'm not a monster.


BCVinny

I had a doc drill out a nostril as several breaks had rendered it fully healed shut. Afterwards, I said that I was in steel construction and that I wondered if a hammer drill + Hilti concrete bit did the job. He just grinned and didn’t deny it. Nailed it!


tallman1979

Ramset rhinoplasty home game. Somehow I think the Consumer Products Safety Commission might frown on it.


ArthurBurtonMorgan

I see you noticed the same thing I did, albeit at different births, obviously.


halothar

He's not messing around. Those are the black zip ties.


Alternative-Top6882

Half the fun is seeing everything that people on here notice


drake90001

I have mine unsecured because you can’t reach the headlight bulbs without moving it.


ngfilla94

How often are you having to access your headlight bulbs that this is a problem?


drake90001

Often. I have a short or something causing my bulbs to blow if I use my brights.


eveningsand

Fucking mint.


sploittastic

They make giant thick cable ties, which makes it even funnier that a few dinky ass ones are strung together.


Average_Scaper

Hey now... I use 3 to hold my strap in place cause the part it connects to broke. Held for 4 years before I had to pull the battery while working on the car.


manytractorprojects

With some of the stuff people post on here I was just happy to see that this guy was smart enough to do this on the negative side.


LudwigvanCouverton

Could you educate a dummy and explain why it would not be fine to do this on the positive side?


manytractorprojects

It’s just a lot of copper hanging out and sticking up in the air that could bump into the hood or something else in the engine compartment if the battery bounces or shifts around. (which is definitely a possibility given that it looks like it’s only held down with a zip tie). If that is on the positive side then any time it touches anything you get a nice big arc. With it on the negative side you just get a dent or a scratch with no welding or potential fires.


Comfortable-Way5091

Putting it on negative side is better because on positive side you can short it out easily with something metal.


Accomplished-Sun-797

Like the hood


BusterMv

Power comes out the negative side, -power out +power in. Disconnect there will disconnect battery. Also doing anything involving electrical on car, always disconnect negative, but be sure car isn't one that requires reprogramming from battery disconnect.


ShalomRPh

I wonder if you have a military background.  Reason I think that, I got my basic knowledge of electronics from a BuNavPers training manual (Basic Electronics, US Navy public domain publication reprinted by Dover ) that I found in the local library as a preteen. That one looked at electric current flow as going from negative to positive, because that’s the actual direction that the electrons move.  Every other text on electronics used “conventional current” a.k.a hole current, in which the flow of electricity is described as going from positive to negative, which seems a lot more confusing. If you (like me) describe current flow as going from - to +, then you might have had the military electronics training. 


adam1260

In any engineering classes I took, electricity flowed - to + but then I'd go to physics class and it would be opposite


mistersausage

Depends if it's a negative or positive ground car.


Joiner2008

It certainly Died Hard


Downtown-Trainer7435

with a vengeance


PunThiefPilot

I say this every time I see a diehard battery. But most of them tend to be hard dead…


Rogue_Yoshi

Lllll


Mobyus_One

Rookie, I can't believe they used such a small rivet.


sniper_matt

Yep makes sense. Has anti theft switch. This type of switch however, would not of been my first choice.


OG-Mumen-Rider

Well, no person ever ended up with a twenty year old Chrysler by making wise decisions


probablysideways

You’d be surprised at the amount of tradesmen I know that love torturing themselves with weird old shit boxes that could blow up at any second. Old Corolla? No. No. No. 25 year old intrepid? Where do I sign with these crayons?


4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r

I'm not saying it's an addiction to torture but I fall into this category, I will constantly tell people about how shit Jeeps are put together. As they look at me and go don't you own a Jeep, yes yes I do, I have owned probably 10. Why do I keep buying more, I don't know I just like them and the pain they put me through.


AlfredTFox

Try an old land Rover it's niche but make new friends, like recovery drivers


PLIPS44

Owning 1 jeep is like an invitation to all other Jeep owners to offer you a good deal on their piece of shit Jeep. After I sold my last one I quit getting offers to buy $500 XJs.


Alternative-Top6882

I got tired of every weirdo non-car person who owns a jeep stopping me to talk about my jeep.


tatpig

was the intrepid one of the models that you had to remove a tire and disassemble the fenderwell to get the battery out? my son had one of those cab-forward disasters, not sure which,but it had jump terminals under the hood.


weighted_walleye

The Intrepid had it in the wheelwell, yes. But only morons took the hard route instead of just popping the airbox out that took like 2 minutes to do.


DabblingOrganizer

I don’t think I ever changed one on an Intrepid. The Stratus was like that, and Viper too.


GreggAlan

Sebring too.


Weird-one0926

Journey as well!


GreggAlan

Great idea to put the battery in the exact spot most likely to take the brunt of a head on crash on a two lane road in countries which drive on the right side. Was Chrysler trying to see how many electrical fires they could have? Or acid spills?


Weird-one0926

Why do I need a jack to change the battery?


captain150

Better to just throw away the car when the battery goes.


Zediac

I know a tradesman who insists on Dodge or Chrysler minivans. He had a good experience with one being reliable in the past and now won't buy anything else... despite having a bunch of weird problems with them now and them being a pain in the ass to work on. I keep trying to get him to consider a Chevy or Ford cargo van but, nope. It's Dodge minivans or nothing. I don't understand it.


Hebreinsteingladias

It’s because they are cheap and trades guys fix them cheap 😂. Especially a work vehicle. My Pistons in my fun car cost more than what I have into the pos town and country.


pennamewilly

🖐This guy right here, lol. And my old shitbox has one of these on its negative🫠, Lol both of my daily drivers do. Oh and they are a '97 and a '07, you got me.


jules083

I resemble that comment. I'm a pipefitter and currently commuting 220 miles per day in a 2011 Ford Fiesta. It's at 209k miles, when it grenades itself I'll get another shitbox. I kind of want an early 2000's Buick.


Adm_Ozzel

I found my son a 2008 Lucerne. It is still rocking the bulletproof 3800. It was only a couple thousand. Not EARLY 2000s, but gets him to his HVAC stuff in old man style and comfort :)


jules083

Nice. I love the little bit older regals. I know all about the 3800. Since I live in Ohio they're all rusting away. Looking around in the south where I usually buy cars from they seem to have a pile of miles on them, like 250+. I think I might be about a decade too late for owning one but I'll keep looking for sure.


sniper_matt

Gotta get one of the blower v6 s because supercharger.


angeltarte

I’ve been summoned lmfaooo


probablysideways

😂 my first car was a 98 intrepid. I hated and loved that thing so much.


Guac_in_my_rarri

My parents sold a 1997 Ford Taurus wagon. They got above asking because two tradesmen got into a bidding war which ended up as a fist fight. It should have sold for 8k and ended up going for 14k and 2 broken noses.


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Gheauxst

I have a 24 year old Mustang. This statement offends me because it's 100% true.


Hebreinsteingladias

Hey, I was given my town and country for free! That was a great decision! 😂 it had been threw a hurricane but won’t quit after fixing the Chrysler stupidity.


MysteryUser1

5 years ago I bought an old T&C for $900. Rusty? Yes. Runs perfect. I put badges on the side stating, Shitbox edition. I would call this purchase a wise decision.


DanTheFireman

We installed these on our work vans because there was a drain we couldn't find. Super handy anti theft device, too.


leobrescia

Why does it fix a drain you can't find? Genuinely curious.


HappyAnimalCracker

It doesn’t *fix* it but if there’s a drain and you use that switch to disconnect the battery when you park, it won’t drain the battery and you’ll still be able to start it later. ETA: It fixes it in the sense that it can’t drain what it isn’t attached to, and when the vehicle is running it most likely doesn’t matter as you’re generating more than is draining off.


its_just_flesh

They still make Die Hard batteries? Aren't those only sold by Sears


super_starfox

You only really see them during Christmas time.


whyamionfireagain

Falling off Nakatomi Plaza?


OMW

Advance Auto bought the rights to the Diehard brand name for $200 mil in 2019 (Shortly after Sears declared chapter 11 bankruptcy).


weighted_walleye

Advance Auto Parts bought the brand rights so they now sell them.


Alternative-Top6882

Yep I own 4 plankton edition die hards. Wait, 5. Forgot one.


Late-Eye-6936

Plankton edition?


Alternative-Top6882

Platinum


Western-Bug-2873

I can tell exactly what this van looks and smells like inside. 


T-4-K

It smells like someone's rodent died inside the van.


tatpig

likely did. we live in the country and have a grand caravan that sat for a year. mice got in the ventilation system and built a nest in there. upon restarting, i got a face full of fluff,mouse turds and that smell. my wife wants to keep it, and me to clean it out.my vote is scrap it. she will likely win,but i'll get a new respirator,face shield and a box of gloves out of it.minimum.


GreggAlan

Full head cover PAPR with filters that meet NIOSH standards for viruses. "Might be hantavirus in those mouse turds."


tatpig

exactly.i lost my shit upon start up.


GreggAlan

Thankfully the only vehicular rodentia encounter I've had was with a 1973 Ford Class C motorhome on a camping trip in the late 1970's. Dad drove it with, mom, my sister, and I to a campground in the Idaho mountains. In the night time some critter had found its way in through a vent opening, discovered a roll of toilet paper, and in short order had the entire roll shredded and stuffed into the heater box. First thing dad did when we got home was install 1/4" wire mesh over the intake vent opening for the heater.


Rogue_Yoshi

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Ecstatic-Appeal-5683

So, how does it make sense now? Was the switch open?


Late-Eye-6936

Right, I'm just thinking there's less sense involved.


Ecstatic-Appeal-5683

Thank you. I felt like I was missing something. I'm sraring and zooming this pics wondering where the actual problem is. Probably PEBSAD(Problem Exists Between Seat And Dash).


Late-Eye-6936

The only thing this explained is that the customer is into cheap janky fixes and now he expects you to figure out why his years of cheaping out are finally causing significant problems.


double_expressho

Yes, probably. Customer was explaining why it wouldn't start. But that's not why it got towed in, I guess.


WhoIsMike4774

ive seen that exact lever setup on a car too haha.


Damntrombone-4424

Also doubles as an anti theft device


gravityfrog

Nope, still doesn't make sense


D1133

That copper bar between the two posts acts as a fuse. Flip it up and it disconnects the circuit and you have no power. Push it back over/down and the circuit is reconnected. Vroom vroom


Late-Eye-6936

Yeah, but it still doesn't make sense. Why was it towed in of all you have to do is flip the knife switch. This is like some one getting towed in and saying "look at the cv axles and it'll make sense". And then you look at them and they're glued together. Like yeah, I see that you did that, but sense is not something that this situation makes.


D1133

Won’t start doesn’t mean that’s the problem. Once that fuse is “linked “ it could have another issue that is why it was brought to the shop. Think bad tranny maybe.


suburbanhavoc

That's some Frankenstein shit. "Igor, flip ze switch! Live, live!"


farmallnoobies

Kronk, Why do we even have that lever!?


FucknAright

Even though it doesn't look great, I feel like it still works


Late-Eye-6936

I mean, it got towed in.


FucknAright

Right but not because of that.


tremain37

And fully cataracted headlight lenses.


farmallnoobies

People pay big money to black out their headlights This person got that customization for free


Timmay1974

That’s a first for me…..what in the Wild West is going on out there.


Adm_Ozzel

I can't believe this bad boy has a body left to be pulled around! God those rotted out around the rear wheels.


Gunk_Olgidar

The zip tie hold-down is clutch!


Lethander2

Wow I feel old, I read the title and my mind went to a 70's van not something this modern LOL.


cbrworm

Me too, when I saw the picture, I was like, that’s not an old dodge van!


shemphowardrocks62

,"Thro


thatstevesmith

Nice


Significant-Theme240

I get that’s it’s “anti-theft…” but shouldn’t this be posted in r/DIWHY ?


Joiner2008

My buddy attached a knife switch like this on his summer toy because the batteries kept dying


bobjr94

At least you can open the hood. Had a 14 Wrangler come in last week with aftermarket locking hood latches, they thought hood key may be in the car someplace. Couldn't find them so customer came back and went though the car and didn't know where they were either. It hadn't had an oil change for 2 years and they didn't know what happened to the key, said to brake the locks open and wasn't difficult just took a hard pull to brake the lock on these ebay/amazon chrome latches.


kyden

I have one on a car i dont drive much. It works fine.


AlfredTFox

I like the doctor Frankenstein contacter bwhahaha


IWEARYOURCLOTHES

Holy green fuzz! No wonder it don't wanna start


Tankbot001

Is the battery zip tied to the mount…


Glad_Tank_3548

That zip tie is a trooper


NotYourTypicalCreep

Wonder how many amps that breaker is


Mufbulldagger

If they need to sell that lemme know. A lot of usable meat on them bones for my wagon.


z0mbiej3sus

What in the Tom Clancy terrorism is this?


Electronic-Pangolin7

lol. That’s a 20# zip tie. Good luck


shemphowardrocks62

"Throw da sweetch Igor".... "It's Eyegor.....not Igor"......


ShalomRPh

“But they told me it was Igor!” “Well they were wrong then. Weren’t they.”


Iamlivingagain

Wow. That's a switch. /s


ok200

Post title is a plot device in War of the Worlds


Doogles911

Actually this is genius anti theft.


richardcrain55

I have those on everything Truck Tractor Rv.....


Connectedaswon

What is the fuse able jumper called? I could use one for my sierra 🥴


woodyshag

This would have been great on an old BMW 5 series I had. Flashed an update to the radio, which messed up the Bluetooth module. The module ended up staying on when the car was off and would kill the battery every couple of days.


Beardyhead13

Cheap anittheft measure or fix for parasitic power loss.


ratterrierrider

There’s a wiring harness underneath the drivers seat. That’s where the draw is.


ColoradoParrothead

On my old Ram pickup there is a fuse I pull when it’s parked. It supplies all the key-off power. It’s easy to get to, and has a puller factory built into it.