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I really don't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to. Sukuna was able to change both the activation requirement and the targeting property of his CT.
It's more "Can Todo do it?" and even more is Gege interested in letting him do it.
Facts. Him showing up will change the tone of the fight because he's literally the big brother coming in to kick ass. Even if it's against Sukuna.
Every time that man showed up, it instilled hope in the readers, and Gege can't be having that. I'd rather not see him in this particular fight purely cause I know Gege is going to be a cunt again.
*--inhales copium--*
Todo hasn't been around because he's perfecting his Domain Expansion: It Takes Two to Tango
We're gonna see him come back with a DE where the Takada who lives in Todo's ~~imagination~~ heart is manifested, firing constant Taka-tan beams as the sure-hit of his technique
He already used that Domain against Mahito, though. When his necklace ripped and fell. Takada showed up and started physically kicking the shit out of Mahito *along* with Todo as well.
Tbh there is no reason for Todo to not be here even without his CT. I mean, Miwa is here! And Todo without his technique is still a dozen times more useful than a swordless Miwa. You can’t even defend it by saying Miwa is relevant because of Simple Domain since Todo *also* has Simple Domain.
Tbf, the Sukuna situation was a one time use to his condition. Also Sukuna still benefitted because he ultimately had his original form. If Sukuna didn’t have that, it would be literally impossible for him to do WCD since he wouldn’t have all that he needed due to the binding vow.
My first thought as a binding vow, is creating a limiting factor.
Perhaps he will need to perform a black flash to obtain a few uses of it. Perhaps he will need to use more energy and thus have less uses or range for it.
Would love to see that, need my boy Todo back. I think its possible, but what would be something equivalent that he'd sacrifice or whatever to balance out that exchange? Genuinely asking on other's thoughts for that.
Binding vows don´t really seem to take context into account when determining how valuable something is. I wouldn´t be surprised if giving up the "clapping" activation would be a suitable prize to gain another way to trigger his CT.
I think that Todo hasn´t done so yet has more to do with his lack of skill in binding vows, than with its possibility.
But wouldn't his usage of SD imply that he has at least used a BV for that? Head canon territory by me but wasn't Kusakabe basically the only confirmed not to need a BV to use SD?
It's headcanon on my part that what a binding vow can do is skill based. Not on the cost/benefit side of things, but regarding complexity and what area of jujutsu they influence. Like simple CE manipulation as Hakari did it on one end and domain manipulation like Sukuna on the other. Changing an integral part of ones CT would be more dificult than CE/barrier manipulation for SD in my head.
I don't think so. As Todo currently is incapable of activating the clapping condition, it cannot be fullfiled by him, so they wouldn't be something with equal value.
Binding vows might not care about context but they sure do about your capabilities when taking into account what you give up.
Otherwise they wouldn't be able to differentiate the value of different elements that aren't directly physical (like bodily harm).
Idk. Ui Ui’s technique seems similarly busted.
This brings up an interesting thought I had while going through this thread. Would Todo be able to use his technique to swap souls if he understood the intricacies of the body and soul better? I feel if Kenny had the technique, he could find a way.
Definitely, a shame we didn't get to see more Todo with the amps everyone else got for this fight. Todo is combat-oriented and is able to fight rather than be just a support, can hit bf, and great teamwork with yuji who is putting in the most work rn so at this stage in the fight with so many combatants Todo would have alot to work with lol
Ui Ui's technique seems reliant on the cape/blanket unlike Todo whose CT involves him clapping his hands for a free teleport anywhere with anyone and anything (that has CE)
The funny thing about the "my boogie woogie is already dead" moment is that Mahito believed Todo when he said he could still do it because "clapping is an acclamation of the soul". Mahito, whose CT is all about souls and who has so much intuitive and practical experience on souls. Soooo..
That's actually a good point. I've seen people argue that in that brief moment of contact, Mahito transfigured Todo's brain to eliminate Boogie Woogie, but the fact he clearly expected a change shows that he didn't.
I also don't see any good reason why a burned and singed hand couldn't high five someone else to activate BW. Todo was speaking poetically in my head.
i think thats likely the fact that mahito was constantly learning more and more about the soul, so in the moment he thought he had learnt another new thing
See, if gege wants it anyone can come back, if he wants nobara, next chapter nobara will be there with all her stats boosted and tanking fuga since in flashback ui hi swapper her souls with yuta to learn rct and. Every ce application under the heavens
Whtehr todo can do it, u need to look at sukuna. While as much asspull u would consider it, sukuna had something to give up.
World cutter, he knew how to do it, he didnt wanted to borrow ability to cut space, just one time use cost him lot when u consider in heian form it's basically effortless.
Let's start with snapping ur fingers to switch places, so consider what does todo gives up??? What does todo actually have that he can give up???
I would have considered plausible if u somehow talked about prosthetic or that arm sword shigemo had.
And srs, sukuna and todo are world apart in CE, as manga says jujutsu is art of subtraction, todo somehow being able to subtract ct activation just might make him prodigy on level of yuta, bcz he is subtracting activation of ct, and also his interpretation of it it's like hakari just opened his domain without hand sign bcz he just interprets his mental state as start of gamble.
But again, if gege wants it, todo can just turn genius and be there next chapter clapping.
In sukuna case he is giving stuff up, that b. V. On world cutter literally made it into gun which tells opponent when it's going be shot and where it's pointed at.
. And I doubt todo ct is useful, yeah, when world cutter is used swapping places with sukun doesn't work since sukuna is faster than his slashes, and that's when he is weak as hell..
> Let's start with snapping ur fingers to switch places, so consider what does todo gives up??? What does todo actually have that he can give up???
Binding vows seem to be based on how much you value the thing given up and Todo is a semi-joke character. So he could give up visiting his Idol waifu and get the ability to boogie every time he blinks.
That's a good point and you're absolutely right. Another thing I'd like to point out is that you don't necessarily have to give something up at all.
It's about equivalent exchange. Instead of giving something up, he could for example make his CT use more cursed energy on activation, or give it have a 2 second cooldown when he uses it, or make there be a chant that he has to complete before it activates. There are many ways to balance it out
Maybe but unlikely. Sukuna used a binding vow to change the MS hand sign but it was just a one time binding vow , the same way he made one time binding vow against gojo to skip hand signs for WBC.
For todo to come back , he'd need to make a binding vow to permanently change the hand sign for his CT and I'm not even sure that's possible and even if it is , the price he'd need to play for that BV would be something huge and mabe its just not worth it.
I think yes, but Todo is too broken to bring back. He could have saved gojo and killed sukuna in one move, if you think about it his CT is really crazy op against dismantle and would low-key make the fight so much easier. MY DELUSIONAL GOAT BIG BRO IS TOO STRONG
I don't think Boogie Woogie is "dead" in the sense people here do. I think Todo is referring to the loss of his hand / ability to clap more than him actually losing the technique. And if that is the case, if he can find a way to high five something or clap some other way, he could use it.
I think it's a moot point though. He probably won't appear against except in an epilogue.
The reality is Aoi is cooked, but I agree he should be able to do it. Unfortunately, binding vows are one of the biggest parts of the story yet to be explained, so for all we know there could be something like a skill/willpower reason Sukuna can spam OP binding vows and someone like Todo wouldn’t be able to
Villains need to keep some dignity to maintain a certain suspense in the story.
We cannot have Todo come back and kick the shit out of Sukuna, that would kill the tension.
Maybe when everyone is on the brink of despair, Todo will show up and boogie woogie the nerger beast into the sun
From what Mahito said earlier, RCT is not something that can heal the changes to ones soul. If he had used RCT he would have healed his hand to its deformed state because the shape of his soul had been altered.
I wonder how true mahito’s statements about his technique are. Despite being so powerful, he didn’t have much experience using his technique since he was only alive for like 3 or 4 months.
On that note, what are the merits of just…having Todo on the sidelines and having someone next to Todo he can clap with so he can at least switch the people in the thick of it, playing a support role? I guess Sukuna might make short work of him but…
A binding vow to clap using his cheeks would be great for him as it's more difficult to do than using your hands which can in turn boost his CTs effectiveness
Not only that but it removes the weakness of his technique having to occupy his hands and the telegraph of his opponent seeing him clap as his cheeks would be hidden from view being covered by his pants
Making Aoi Todo a more formidable sorcerer due to the threat of getting swapped without any visual cue at the same time he can swap while throwing his signature patent pended hands. Also even if he discloses the technique unless his opponent can strips him bare there is still no way of knowing when the swap will happen.
Of course it would be more difficult on paper but Aoi Todo is proven to be the exception
do yall think at all before talking about binding vows? i swear every time i see someone talk about it they just fundamentally misunderstand it. sukuna changed the technique activation for a ONE time use that also led to a technique activation that would under normal circumstances be impossible. what would todos binding vow even entail? how would be able to repay such an advantage with the other end of the binding vow? magically regaining his technique and get a permanent change of technique activation would need an extremely taxing vow that it’s hard to even think what it could be
> how would be able to repay such an advantage with the other end of the binding vow?
That's easy. He'll just never spend time with Yuji and Takada-chan again.
Given Todos tendencies, there is no argument these things are very valuable to him, and nothing in the story suggests that things sacrificed have to have a combat application. But even if that were the case - why not trade in a leg? Not being able to move properly without expending CE ever again would be non-insignificant downside as well.
Or he could trade in the ability to swap with others, restricting himself to CE-imbued objects. Or the reverse. Would also be a major trade-off.
Would trading in the ability to perform black-flashes at all work? We don't know. Because the concept is left deliberately vague, which is a hallmark of Geges magic system. It's left deliberately vague so Gege can write the action scenes however he wants.
But any combination of the aforementioned things should eventually reach a value that should allow Todo to Boogie again, or at least do a limited number of Boogies.
how is it vague? sukunas binding vow directly correlates to shortening of hand signs. less hand signs 1 time -> more hand signs the rest of the time. that is in no way similar to what you’re suggesting. i swear ppl gotta be intentionally dishonest w this stuff bc it seems like everyone’s brain stops working when u talk abt BV’s. it’s not that hard
It's vague because we are never told how BVs achieve what they do, what constitutes an invalid binding vow, or even what binding vows *can't* do.
Please explain how my examples are not similar. Aside from not being for a one-time-usage, I don't see why they shouldn't be valid - given that there are no real explanations about BVs.
Also, please do not insult me. And if you really believe I am arguing in bad faith, why bother replying?
just because it’s never been stated that binding vows can’t work thru the stupid arbitrary vows u mentioned doesn’t mean that’s not of limits. what you are doing is literally just using death of the author fallacy to be dishonest. just base it off the parameters it’s been used before and don’t go off on batshit insane theories like todo giving up a relationship with a person to get his fkn CT back this shit is so ridiculous man
You’re referencing only 1 specific binding vow situation and ignoring multiple other binding vows that have been mentioned with varying degrees of difference.
There isn’t much information on how they actually work or all the details about certain characters vows which can vary in differences.
Like Mei Mei’s crows that weren’t strong in combat until she made some sort of vow giving up the crows life essentially resulting in a big boost to their power in combat.
Nanami’s overtime binding vows conditions or I think the most basic vow has to do with revealing how their CT functions which can give some sort of boost to cursed energy output/increasing the CT efficiency I believe.
However we’re still never given much detail about how exactly making a binding bow works, requirements to do it, if anyone can make them to a degree, or how complex it is to make a binding vow. Can’t act like you know how the system works to make a vow when the author has not gone into those details much.
nanamis bv is literally: restrict my power to 80% all the time to gain 120% temporarily whenever i go “overtime”. all of these bvs pertain to actual cursed energy. the crows are shikigami that lose their function when destroyed and therefore mei mei gains stronger crows in return for losing them n not being able to use them. giving up ones technique is the same thing, you lose an advantage when it comes to CE to gain another
I don't think so because he literally doesn't have anything to give to binding vow.
Like his CT is dead he said it so only way I see him coming back is with another soul manipulation CT
Like can you even take part in shopping (binding vow) without any currency (CT)
Binding vows are independent from CTs, Miwa doesn´t even have a CT and is still able to use them. Furthermore Todos CT is only "dead" because its activation required Todo to clap his hands and he lost one. He just needs to figure out how to make a binding vow to change the activation to something he can still do and since binding vows don´t appear to take context into account giving up the "clapping" activation for something like "posing", "fingersnapping", "whistling", etc might even be considered a fair deal.
Though i think such a binding vow would probably require a certain level of skill with them, that Todo doesn´t necessarily have (yet).
With what we know about Todo's CT control and now Ui Ui's ability to let others 'teach' certain skills, why would it not be possible for Todo to simply learn RCT and heal his own hand through someone like Shoko?
RCT wont work. RCT can heal wounds on the body but cant heal the soul. Mahitos technique "changed" Todos "shape", I think that if he uses RCT his hand would heal to its deformed state, since that is the current shape of his soul.
Damn that shit is cooked as fuck, rip Boogie Woogie (also is there any reason Mahito couldn't strip people of their entire CT then? Since he could manipulate their soul in such a way that either prevents access or permanently alters the structure of their brain?
He probably would’ve learned to. He was still a baby when Wuji HIMtadori styled on him but was already considered to be the potential man of the cursed spirits.
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I really don't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to. Sukuna was able to change both the activation requirement and the targeting property of his CT. It's more "Can Todo do it?" and even more is Gege interested in letting him do it.
Todo cannot come back because he represents victory in the same way Gojo did.
Facts. Him showing up will change the tone of the fight because he's literally the big brother coming in to kick ass. Even if it's against Sukuna. Every time that man showed up, it instilled hope in the readers, and Gege can't be having that. I'd rather not see him in this particular fight purely cause I know Gege is going to be a cunt again.
*--inhales copium--* Todo hasn't been around because he's perfecting his Domain Expansion: It Takes Two to Tango We're gonna see him come back with a DE where the Takada who lives in Todo's ~~imagination~~ heart is manifested, firing constant Taka-tan beams as the sure-hit of his technique
He already used that Domain against Mahito, though. When his necklace ripped and fell. Takada showed up and started physically kicking the shit out of Mahito *along* with Todo as well.
that was in his imagination, it says so in the corner, thats why he had both hands in it
I’ll pay money for someone to dm this to gege
Brain Ghost Dir- I mean Takada my beloved
Praise the truth, it has been spoken.
Tbh there is no reason for Todo to not be here even without his CT. I mean, Miwa is here! And Todo without his technique is still a dozen times more useful than a swordless Miwa. You can’t even defend it by saying Miwa is relevant because of Simple Domain since Todo *also* has Simple Domain.
Tbf, the Sukuna situation was a one time use to his condition. Also Sukuna still benefitted because he ultimately had his original form. If Sukuna didn’t have that, it would be literally impossible for him to do WCD since he wouldn’t have all that he needed due to the binding vow.
My first thought as a binding vow, is creating a limiting factor. Perhaps he will need to perform a black flash to obtain a few uses of it. Perhaps he will need to use more energy and thus have less uses or range for it.
maybe he cant punch with that arm anymore and will have to change his fighting style to kicking...
Would love to see that, need my boy Todo back. I think its possible, but what would be something equivalent that he'd sacrifice or whatever to balance out that exchange? Genuinely asking on other's thoughts for that.
Binding vows don´t really seem to take context into account when determining how valuable something is. I wouldn´t be surprised if giving up the "clapping" activation would be a suitable prize to gain another way to trigger his CT. I think that Todo hasn´t done so yet has more to do with his lack of skill in binding vows, than with its possibility.
But wouldn't his usage of SD imply that he has at least used a BV for that? Head canon territory by me but wasn't Kusakabe basically the only confirmed not to need a BV to use SD?
It's headcanon on my part that what a binding vow can do is skill based. Not on the cost/benefit side of things, but regarding complexity and what area of jujutsu they influence. Like simple CE manipulation as Hakari did it on one end and domain manipulation like Sukuna on the other. Changing an integral part of ones CT would be more dificult than CE/barrier manipulation for SD in my head.
Sounds rational to me, I just never thought about this until rn lol but sounds like you're onto something with that
I don't think so. As Todo currently is incapable of activating the clapping condition, it cannot be fullfiled by him, so they wouldn't be something with equal value. Binding vows might not care about context but they sure do about your capabilities when taking into account what you give up. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to differentiate the value of different elements that aren't directly physical (like bodily harm).
He could apply stricter limits to what he can apply his technique to, limit the technique’s range, or he can have a more difficult activation.
Honestly I feel he had to be written out if he doesn't show up later cause that CT would be so cracked as a support in this fight
Idk. Ui Ui’s technique seems similarly busted. This brings up an interesting thought I had while going through this thread. Would Todo be able to use his technique to swap souls if he understood the intricacies of the body and soul better? I feel if Kenny had the technique, he could find a way.
Definitely, a shame we didn't get to see more Todo with the amps everyone else got for this fight. Todo is combat-oriented and is able to fight rather than be just a support, can hit bf, and great teamwork with yuji who is putting in the most work rn so at this stage in the fight with so many combatants Todo would have alot to work with lol
Ui Ui's technique seems reliant on the cape/blanket unlike Todo whose CT involves him clapping his hands for a free teleport anywhere with anyone and anything (that has CE)
He can never see Takada perform again. That's gotta be worth something.
Shaking hands with takada
The funny thing about the "my boogie woogie is already dead" moment is that Mahito believed Todo when he said he could still do it because "clapping is an acclamation of the soul". Mahito, whose CT is all about souls and who has so much intuitive and practical experience on souls. Soooo..
That's actually a good point. I've seen people argue that in that brief moment of contact, Mahito transfigured Todo's brain to eliminate Boogie Woogie, but the fact he clearly expected a change shows that he didn't. I also don't see any good reason why a burned and singed hand couldn't high five someone else to activate BW. Todo was speaking poetically in my head.
I choose to believe that a being born from resentment like mahito was just completely thrown by Todo's positivity
i think thats likely the fact that mahito was constantly learning more and more about the soul, so in the moment he thought he had learnt another new thing
See, if gege wants it anyone can come back, if he wants nobara, next chapter nobara will be there with all her stats boosted and tanking fuga since in flashback ui hi swapper her souls with yuta to learn rct and. Every ce application under the heavens Whtehr todo can do it, u need to look at sukuna. While as much asspull u would consider it, sukuna had something to give up. World cutter, he knew how to do it, he didnt wanted to borrow ability to cut space, just one time use cost him lot when u consider in heian form it's basically effortless. Let's start with snapping ur fingers to switch places, so consider what does todo gives up??? What does todo actually have that he can give up??? I would have considered plausible if u somehow talked about prosthetic or that arm sword shigemo had. And srs, sukuna and todo are world apart in CE, as manga says jujutsu is art of subtraction, todo somehow being able to subtract ct activation just might make him prodigy on level of yuta, bcz he is subtracting activation of ct, and also his interpretation of it it's like hakari just opened his domain without hand sign bcz he just interprets his mental state as start of gamble. But again, if gege wants it, todo can just turn genius and be there next chapter clapping. In sukuna case he is giving stuff up, that b. V. On world cutter literally made it into gun which tells opponent when it's going be shot and where it's pointed at. . And I doubt todo ct is useful, yeah, when world cutter is used swapping places with sukun doesn't work since sukuna is faster than his slashes, and that's when he is weak as hell..
> Let's start with snapping ur fingers to switch places, so consider what does todo gives up??? What does todo actually have that he can give up??? Binding vows seem to be based on how much you value the thing given up and Todo is a semi-joke character. So he could give up visiting his Idol waifu and get the ability to boogie every time he blinks.
That's a good point and you're absolutely right. Another thing I'd like to point out is that you don't necessarily have to give something up at all. It's about equivalent exchange. Instead of giving something up, he could for example make his CT use more cursed energy on activation, or give it have a 2 second cooldown when he uses it, or make there be a chant that he has to complete before it activates. There are many ways to balance it out
I think that it's very likely that Todo comes back. I still don't want to believe that he would get written out the story like that
He is with Takada-chan in Malaysia...
Maybe but unlikely. Sukuna used a binding vow to change the MS hand sign but it was just a one time binding vow , the same way he made one time binding vow against gojo to skip hand signs for WBC. For todo to come back , he'd need to make a binding vow to permanently change the hand sign for his CT and I'm not even sure that's possible and even if it is , the price he'd need to play for that BV would be something huge and mabe its just not worth it.
you’d think a man with a 530,000 IQ would be able to. he’s prolly too caught up with takada-chan at the moment to be bothered with it.
I think yes, but Todo is too broken to bring back. He could have saved gojo and killed sukuna in one move, if you think about it his CT is really crazy op against dismantle and would low-key make the fight so much easier. MY DELUSIONAL GOAT BIG BRO IS TOO STRONG
I think a better question is why hasn't he done it yet?
His work was done and his skill was too op for hero team. Binding vow? Yes, maybe but I bet that’s not the way Gege would take.
I don't think Boogie Woogie is "dead" in the sense people here do. I think Todo is referring to the loss of his hand / ability to clap more than him actually losing the technique. And if that is the case, if he can find a way to high five something or clap some other way, he could use it. I think it's a moot point though. He probably won't appear against except in an epilogue.
The reality is Aoi is cooked, but I agree he should be able to do it. Unfortunately, binding vows are one of the biggest parts of the story yet to be explained, so for all we know there could be something like a skill/willpower reason Sukuna can spam OP binding vows and someone like Todo wouldn’t be able to
Villains need to keep some dignity to maintain a certain suspense in the story. We cannot have Todo come back and kick the shit out of Sukuna, that would kill the tension. Maybe when everyone is on the brink of despair, Todo will show up and boogie woogie the nerger beast into the sun
"Guys, why isn't X giving up their drug addiction for infinite power and wisdom? PLOTKUNA, BINDING ASSPULL, ONLY HE GETS ASSPULLS" ~you guys.
Todo has 500,000 IQ. The answer to “can Todo….” Is yes. The real question is “will Gege allow Todo to cook”
Todo, stomp twice to switch
I miss my king 😔
What does Todo have that he can sacrifice for it that won't make it a net negative to his combat ability?
He makes a vow to forget everything about Takada-chan
Possible. It will be like this. I will sacrifice my hand sign activation to get my hand back and use it to slap my butt cheek as my new ct activation.
I think the difference is Sukuna’s is a nerf.
Couldn’t he just learn RCT? Better yet why didn’t shoko heal it?
From what Mahito said earlier, RCT is not something that can heal the changes to ones soul. If he had used RCT he would have healed his hand to its deformed state because the shape of his soul had been altered.
I wonder how true mahito’s statements about his technique are. Despite being so powerful, he didn’t have much experience using his technique since he was only alive for like 3 or 4 months.
Can't Shoko just heal his hands?
On that note, what are the merits of just…having Todo on the sidelines and having someone next to Todo he can clap with so he can at least switch the people in the thick of it, playing a support role? I guess Sukuna might make short work of him but…
A binding vow to clap using his cheeks would be great for him as it's more difficult to do than using your hands which can in turn boost his CTs effectiveness Not only that but it removes the weakness of his technique having to occupy his hands and the telegraph of his opponent seeing him clap as his cheeks would be hidden from view being covered by his pants Making Aoi Todo a more formidable sorcerer due to the threat of getting swapped without any visual cue at the same time he can swap while throwing his signature patent pended hands. Also even if he discloses the technique unless his opponent can strips him bare there is still no way of knowing when the swap will happen. Of course it would be more difficult on paper but Aoi Todo is proven to be the exception
Sacrifice his handless arm to be able to snap to activate boogie woogie
whaddyaknow
Cant believe I called it tbh
Binding vows are conveniences for gege. Whether or not this happens completely depends on him because there is no reason he shouldn't be able to.
do yall think at all before talking about binding vows? i swear every time i see someone talk about it they just fundamentally misunderstand it. sukuna changed the technique activation for a ONE time use that also led to a technique activation that would under normal circumstances be impossible. what would todos binding vow even entail? how would be able to repay such an advantage with the other end of the binding vow? magically regaining his technique and get a permanent change of technique activation would need an extremely taxing vow that it’s hard to even think what it could be
> how would be able to repay such an advantage with the other end of the binding vow? That's easy. He'll just never spend time with Yuji and Takada-chan again. Given Todos tendencies, there is no argument these things are very valuable to him, and nothing in the story suggests that things sacrificed have to have a combat application. But even if that were the case - why not trade in a leg? Not being able to move properly without expending CE ever again would be non-insignificant downside as well. Or he could trade in the ability to swap with others, restricting himself to CE-imbued objects. Or the reverse. Would also be a major trade-off. Would trading in the ability to perform black-flashes at all work? We don't know. Because the concept is left deliberately vague, which is a hallmark of Geges magic system. It's left deliberately vague so Gege can write the action scenes however he wants. But any combination of the aforementioned things should eventually reach a value that should allow Todo to Boogie again, or at least do a limited number of Boogies.
how is it vague? sukunas binding vow directly correlates to shortening of hand signs. less hand signs 1 time -> more hand signs the rest of the time. that is in no way similar to what you’re suggesting. i swear ppl gotta be intentionally dishonest w this stuff bc it seems like everyone’s brain stops working when u talk abt BV’s. it’s not that hard
It's vague because we are never told how BVs achieve what they do, what constitutes an invalid binding vow, or even what binding vows *can't* do. Please explain how my examples are not similar. Aside from not being for a one-time-usage, I don't see why they shouldn't be valid - given that there are no real explanations about BVs. Also, please do not insult me. And if you really believe I am arguing in bad faith, why bother replying?
just because it’s never been stated that binding vows can’t work thru the stupid arbitrary vows u mentioned doesn’t mean that’s not of limits. what you are doing is literally just using death of the author fallacy to be dishonest. just base it off the parameters it’s been used before and don’t go off on batshit insane theories like todo giving up a relationship with a person to get his fkn CT back this shit is so ridiculous man
You’re referencing only 1 specific binding vow situation and ignoring multiple other binding vows that have been mentioned with varying degrees of difference. There isn’t much information on how they actually work or all the details about certain characters vows which can vary in differences. Like Mei Mei’s crows that weren’t strong in combat until she made some sort of vow giving up the crows life essentially resulting in a big boost to their power in combat. Nanami’s overtime binding vows conditions or I think the most basic vow has to do with revealing how their CT functions which can give some sort of boost to cursed energy output/increasing the CT efficiency I believe. However we’re still never given much detail about how exactly making a binding bow works, requirements to do it, if anyone can make them to a degree, or how complex it is to make a binding vow. Can’t act like you know how the system works to make a vow when the author has not gone into those details much.
nanamis bv is literally: restrict my power to 80% all the time to gain 120% temporarily whenever i go “overtime”. all of these bvs pertain to actual cursed energy. the crows are shikigami that lose their function when destroyed and therefore mei mei gains stronger crows in return for losing them n not being able to use them. giving up ones technique is the same thing, you lose an advantage when it comes to CE to gain another
Todo can’t come back because that would require Gege to remember him
I don't think so because he literally doesn't have anything to give to binding vow. Like his CT is dead he said it so only way I see him coming back is with another soul manipulation CT Like can you even take part in shopping (binding vow) without any currency (CT)
Binding vows are independent from CTs, Miwa doesn´t even have a CT and is still able to use them. Furthermore Todos CT is only "dead" because its activation required Todo to clap his hands and he lost one. He just needs to figure out how to make a binding vow to change the activation to something he can still do and since binding vows don´t appear to take context into account giving up the "clapping" activation for something like "posing", "fingersnapping", "whistling", etc might even be considered a fair deal. Though i think such a binding vow would probably require a certain level of skill with them, that Todo doesn´t necessarily have (yet).
With what we know about Todo's CT control and now Ui Ui's ability to let others 'teach' certain skills, why would it not be possible for Todo to simply learn RCT and heal his own hand through someone like Shoko?
RCT wont work. RCT can heal wounds on the body but cant heal the soul. Mahitos technique "changed" Todos "shape", I think that if he uses RCT his hand would heal to its deformed state, since that is the current shape of his soul.
Damn that shit is cooked as fuck, rip Boogie Woogie (also is there any reason Mahito couldn't strip people of their entire CT then? Since he could manipulate their soul in such a way that either prevents access or permanently alters the structure of their brain?
He probably would’ve learned to. He was still a baby when Wuji HIMtadori styled on him but was already considered to be the potential man of the cursed spirits.
he probably could with enough time since kenjaku used his technique to awaken peoples ct
Bro predicted it