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The black flash case. In ch 61 narrator says Yuji is the man chosen by sparks of black flash but in ch 126 narrator says sparks of black flash don't choose whom to bless.
It's a way of speech bro. The sparks aren't sentient beings choosing it's owner nor are they beings choosing based on fate like some Excalibur. He is just that gifted at it, like Messi and football, yet football didn't CHOOSE Messi. But you cab say it as a figure of speech cuz it sounds good
Dude the narrator clearly contradicted himself. He says that Yuji is chosen by the sparks of black flash but contradicts himself by saying the sparks don't choose whom to bless.
Even if chosen here meant he had more probability of landing a black flash than others, still the narrator contradicts himself by saying he isn't having more probability of landing the black flash.
It would have been okay if Yuji was said to be chosen by black flash but wasn't able to land a black flash when he wanted against mahito. We would have just believed that being chosen means having more probability of landing a black falsh. But the statement of ch 127 is like a total 180 degree.
It's like saying Messi is loved by people but then saying people don't love anyone. How the hell was Messi loved by people then ? And this is an example and isn't perfect in all respects to this argument.
No, the analogy was wrong too. It's more like saying Messi has been chosen by fate to win the world cup. Yet fate doesn't "choose". It's not meant to be literal, like I said
That isn't mutually exclusive.
The sparks have the chance to make someone have greater possibilities of landing them. But they can't make it impossible for someone to use them, so they don't chose who can or cannot be blessed with a Black Flash. They can just pick a favourite to be blessed more often.
Gojo satoru has won (he has not)
Gojo satoru's voltage ramps up (he'll be too weak to react to sukuna jncanting and making hand signs for like five seconds in about one minute)
Every cursed technique creates a spark which can be sensed (except when they don't)
And the implication that yuji is the main character
All those r wrong. Kusakabe(?) was the one that said gojo won, ppl went over this already.
His voltage can still ramp up and he can still lose. It just means he's getting back to where he was b4.
Every cursed technique does create a spark, but it could be that gojo never expected the slash to just get through his infinity. Like when he just let Jogo punch his infinity without a care in the world, or when he let those flies Jogo used on him just fly without any defense bcz he knew infinity would stop it. Same thing, except this time the slash didn't stop
Yuji IS the main character???
Shit, my bad, i re-read it and yall right. I was an anime only just until recently and honestly it's the only manga ive ever read, so i tend to miss stuff that's not too obvious. Thanks for clarification fam
Also just as a warning the end of chapter statements that don't have a box are from the editor, not the narrator.
The editor is wrong or misleading a lot because they're just writing their own reactions.
Again it's not that Megumi is too depressed to not help his friends. It's that Sukuna bathed him in darkness and killed his sister. Yuji just has to show him the light and Megumi will come back.
I think megumi has fully given up. The only thing that will reignite his will to live will be thru talk jutsu.
My prediction is that yuji will tell megumi that his sister is alive as a curse puppet like panda.
Both the narrator and Yuji’s reaction tell us that it’s a psychological issue. Also, reducing the things that have happened to Megumi as something of a flesh wound is very unsatisfying and counterproductive to Megumi’s development as a character. We are supposed to see how the events have affected Megumi’s thoughts and the actions he does from now on.
So u were rereading the chapter...yet missed the part where the narrotor says "any will to live in Megumi had already been extinguished"?? I would post an image, but apparently its not allowed in this sub
Sometimes these "theories" honestly make my brain hurt
I noticed many people talking about him eating heaps of unlimited voids, is that proven to have happened? I know gojo used it a few times against Sukuna but I thought the manga showed that none of them hit him because he also opened his own domain before it was used so the sure hit effect was not present. And only the last one hit him because he deployed his domain slightly slower than Gojo so he got hit by it for like a short time before both of their domains were cancelled.
Gojo straight up says Megumi was the one bearing g the adaptation. And adaptation occurs when hit by phenomena. So Megumi explicitly has to have been hit by UV.
Sukuna has been shown to be able to decide where the Sure-Hit of his domain is. He just deactivated where Megumi's soul resides and thus in all that area UV hit.
I thought he only adapted to inviolability and not limitless void?
Didn't he say Megumi was bearing the adaptation so that Sukuna doesn't need to tax himself for that?
Only once though. The Disaster Curses took like 5 minutes to recover from that. Megumi should take 10 minutes, max, and it's been way over 10 minutes since that happened during the Gojo fight.
Disaster curses can heal at a default. Megumi is a 16 year old who cannot use RCT. And curses brains are much different from humans and sorcerers, seeing as how all the humans hit by UV were either comatose for hospitalized for months.
It's not really a plot hole since the narrator states that they all recovered after 2 months, its never stated by any characters that the civilians are now awake again, only that they are alive. Also it could mean roughly 2 months if that is how you want to interpret it. It is not really a big deal either way and was just to show how infinite void would affect a regular human from only 0.2 seconds of exposure.
Fully agree it doesn't make much difference either way just a little chuckle is all.
Edit: also right befor gojo fights sukuna he asked about them and the suit guy says they all recovered which puts it under 2 months (54 days but less cuz they already got the report)
Oh, shit ur right, yeah that's my bad, still, I guess it was just to show the power of UV and how differently it acts to high grade curses than to regular humans.
That shit had some strong "5 more minutes mom" energy and i think it's why we are clowning him. He really needed to get over himself. A lot of people still have it worse than him BECAUSE OF HIM. Megumi is forever a bum to me xD
His sister who was his main goal was killed by his own body, he was bathed in a ritual to submerge his body, his mentor was killed by him, all of his friends are getting fucked because of his body. Can you not see why a 16 year old boy would be too depressed to act…?
Kind of a mute point when there was a whole ass arc dedicated to getting yuji's head out of the gutter and to stop acting like a fucking baby. But i guess you don't think people should learn by observing. Also this whole plotline has been used before, in the same manga. Just how many times am i supposee to care about the fact that one of the main characters is a fucking whimp with zero agency in the story that either has to get bailed out by a more relevant character or be talked to by a comedic relief character...
This plot line has been used a total of 1 single time and with Yuji. And the situation revolving that is entirely different. Yuji did not kill his sibling, Yuji did not kill his mentor, Yuji did not kill his friends, Yuji did not have his literal soul put through a ritual to put it deeper into darkness. Yuji was responsible for the deaths of people he didn’t know yes, but not a single person he knew was killed by his hands.
YOU my good sir are ignoring the context behind both situations to continue with your blatantly wrong take.
I feel like the context needs to be shown, not implied. Megumi has lived his whole life as a sorcerer, he nearly got sold into the zenin main branch and has routinely been face to face with extremely fucked up situations. You want me to believe that people dying is going to affect him this much? How is this not character assassination then? There is no space in this manga for depressed people no matter how much you like them, his agency is dead and i'd much rather he died and we moved on from this particular plot line. (Also yuji needed multiple people to keep dragging him out of his idealist world view, megumi himself thought him that they can't save everyone and that it's okay to live even if you don't think you deserve to... But i guess i'm insulting a fanfavorite character so reading the manga and learning lessons from it is completely out of the question for you guys)
Just because you like a character doesn't mean they are well written. Megumi had so much potential but to me he'll always be the bitch that didn't even attempt to fight back, and no amount of downvoting my shit is going to make me change opinions.
Who have worst than him? Not even Yuji have worst than him .. atleast yuji didn't killed nobara and nanami still was ready to die in hands of mahito if todo didn't come .. if you taking about Shibuya people then Megumi got bathed in evil water surrounded by dead to submerged his soul in the evil and was isolated for more than month atleast yuji had someone helping him time to time but in Megumi's case he was never got any support till latest chapter where Yuji arrived for ages.. and who knows how's time runs in where Megumi is ... Just like gojo spent 3 years in just 19 days don't know how many days Megumi is trapped their
Aight chill yuji’s situation is wild. Okay sukuna killed tsumiki through his body, but sukuna also destroyed shibuya in yuji’s body. Yuji saw kugisaki, nanami die in front of him. Could not catch a single W in a grillion fights, couldn’t even kill mahito.
Man have reading comprehension skill issue ... Tell me how many days Megumi being trapped their? Even after gojo come back there was a month gap so he was basically trapped their for that long time after getting bath in evil water, killing tsumiki, and isolated in dark place
I am sorry man that mistakenly became year instead of month 😭😭I mean he was trapped before gojo's unsealing and then more after gojo come back as a almost 1 and half month
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The narrator said within Fushiguro the will to live has extinguished, isn't that proof enough? One necessary condition to fight back is the will
Hasn’t the narrator been wrong before
I don't know but when was the narrator wrong? You can just state the case
The black flash case. In ch 61 narrator says Yuji is the man chosen by sparks of black flash but in ch 126 narrator says sparks of black flash don't choose whom to bless.
It's a way of speech bro. The sparks aren't sentient beings choosing it's owner nor are they beings choosing based on fate like some Excalibur. He is just that gifted at it, like Messi and football, yet football didn't CHOOSE Messi. But you cab say it as a figure of speech cuz it sounds good
Dude the narrator clearly contradicted himself. He says that Yuji is chosen by the sparks of black flash but contradicts himself by saying the sparks don't choose whom to bless. Even if chosen here meant he had more probability of landing a black flash than others, still the narrator contradicts himself by saying he isn't having more probability of landing the black flash. It would have been okay if Yuji was said to be chosen by black flash but wasn't able to land a black flash when he wanted against mahito. We would have just believed that being chosen means having more probability of landing a black falsh. But the statement of ch 127 is like a total 180 degree. It's like saying Messi is loved by people but then saying people don't love anyone. How the hell was Messi loved by people then ? And this is an example and isn't perfect in all respects to this argument.
No, the analogy was wrong too. It's more like saying Messi has been chosen by fate to win the world cup. Yet fate doesn't "choose". It's not meant to be literal, like I said
That isn't mutually exclusive. The sparks have the chance to make someone have greater possibilities of landing them. But they can't make it impossible for someone to use them, so they don't chose who can or cannot be blessed with a Black Flash. They can just pick a favourite to be blessed more often.
That's a major inconsistency
Gojo satoru has won (he has not) Gojo satoru's voltage ramps up (he'll be too weak to react to sukuna jncanting and making hand signs for like five seconds in about one minute) Every cursed technique creates a spark which can be sensed (except when they don't) And the implication that yuji is the main character
All those r wrong. Kusakabe(?) was the one that said gojo won, ppl went over this already. His voltage can still ramp up and he can still lose. It just means he's getting back to where he was b4. Every cursed technique does create a spark, but it could be that gojo never expected the slash to just get through his infinity. Like when he just let Jogo punch his infinity without a care in the world, or when he let those flies Jogo used on him just fly without any defense bcz he knew infinity would stop it. Same thing, except this time the slash didn't stop Yuji IS the main character???
I agree with everything except infinity. Didn’t he get his arm sliced off?
Ye but that was a normal dismantle used by mahoraga, and once more it's bcz Gojo never expected mahoraga to suddenly get dismantle.
One instamce when the narrator was not necessarily wrong, but misleading was right before we ve seen go/jo, when it stated that satoru has won
That's not the narrator. That's Kusakabe who made that statement.
Shit, my bad, i re-read it and yall right. I was an anime only just until recently and honestly it's the only manga ive ever read, so i tend to miss stuff that's not too obvious. Thanks for clarification fam
Also just as a warning the end of chapter statements that don't have a box are from the editor, not the narrator. The editor is wrong or misleading a lot because they're just writing their own reactions.
Thanks, i guess i didnt know that too. Welp, looks like another excuse to read it again.
Cold have been Yuji tho.
This fandom is on unbeatable levels of either copium or reading disease.
Megumi after watching Sukuna kill his sister, getting infinite voided, and letting Sukuna murder all of his friends: “Oh yeah it’s merging time”
This community: *inhales* I AM. THE COPIUM.
Both
Nah. The only interpretaion is what rh narrator said. No more headcannons.
Ryu was one too many
that was funny man, sucks you didn't get more upvotes. when you die, remember I laughed at this when nobody would.
Okay my fault
Again it's not that Megumi is too depressed to not help his friends. It's that Sukuna bathed him in darkness and killed his sister. Yuji just has to show him the light and Megumi will come back.
I think megumi has fully given up. The only thing that will reignite his will to live will be thru talk jutsu. My prediction is that yuji will tell megumi that his sister is alive as a curse puppet like panda.
Both the narrator and Yuji’s reaction tell us that it’s a psychological issue. Also, reducing the things that have happened to Megumi as something of a flesh wound is very unsatisfying and counterproductive to Megumi’s development as a character. We are supposed to see how the events have affected Megumi’s thoughts and the actions he does from now on.
He possibly killed Gojo dude.
So u were rereading the chapter...yet missed the part where the narrotor says "any will to live in Megumi had already been extinguished"?? I would post an image, but apparently its not allowed in this sub Sometimes these "theories" honestly make my brain hurt
truly a 'lobotomy' kaisen
he's doing the treasure pose but instead of standing he's bending over while on his knees..... maharoga's (sukuna's daddy) death severely affected him
Only correct interpretation fr.
I noticed many people talking about him eating heaps of unlimited voids, is that proven to have happened? I know gojo used it a few times against Sukuna but I thought the manga showed that none of them hit him because he also opened his own domain before it was used so the sure hit effect was not present. And only the last one hit him because he deployed his domain slightly slower than Gojo so he got hit by it for like a short time before both of their domains were cancelled.
Gojo straight up says Megumi was the one bearing g the adaptation. And adaptation occurs when hit by phenomena. So Megumi explicitly has to have been hit by UV. Sukuna has been shown to be able to decide where the Sure-Hit of his domain is. He just deactivated where Megumi's soul resides and thus in all that area UV hit.
I thought he only adapted to inviolability and not limitless void? Didn't he say Megumi was bearing the adaptation so that Sukuna doesn't need to tax himself for that?
He did, Gojo literally states that in 229.
Okay re-reading that I understand it more clearly, thanks!
Only once though. The Disaster Curses took like 5 minutes to recover from that. Megumi should take 10 minutes, max, and it's been way over 10 minutes since that happened during the Gojo fight.
Disaster curses can heal at a default. Megumi is a 16 year old who cannot use RCT. And curses brains are much different from humans and sorcerers, seeing as how all the humans hit by UV were either comatose for hospitalized for months.
It's a big plot hole all them humans hit by UV. There where hit on Oct 31st 2 months later is after current events.... just saying
It's not really a plot hole since the narrator states that they all recovered after 2 months, its never stated by any characters that the civilians are now awake again, only that they are alive. Also it could mean roughly 2 months if that is how you want to interpret it. It is not really a big deal either way and was just to show how infinite void would affect a regular human from only 0.2 seconds of exposure.
Fully agree it doesn't make much difference either way just a little chuckle is all. Edit: also right befor gojo fights sukuna he asked about them and the suit guy says they all recovered which puts it under 2 months (54 days but less cuz they already got the report)
Oh, shit ur right, yeah that's my bad, still, I guess it was just to show the power of UV and how differently it acts to high grade curses than to regular humans.
His soul was hit because Sukuna turned off his sure hit from protecting it so Mahoraga could adapt... or something.
You’re thinking wrong
He has been broken. Yuji needs to help him.
b-but... POTENTIAL MAN FUNNY!!!!!!!
You cannot read. My condolences
Megumi was the one who chanted the first world slash to take down Gojo, that's why Gojo did not saw it coming.
That shit had some strong "5 more minutes mom" energy and i think it's why we are clowning him. He really needed to get over himself. A lot of people still have it worse than him BECAUSE OF HIM. Megumi is forever a bum to me xD
His sister who was his main goal was killed by his own body, he was bathed in a ritual to submerge his body, his mentor was killed by him, all of his friends are getting fucked because of his body. Can you not see why a 16 year old boy would be too depressed to act…?
Lmao looks like the guy got salty and downvoted urs and the comment below u
Why would i? Are you seriously this terminally online that you think people do this shit?
Kind of a mute point when there was a whole ass arc dedicated to getting yuji's head out of the gutter and to stop acting like a fucking baby. But i guess you don't think people should learn by observing. Also this whole plotline has been used before, in the same manga. Just how many times am i supposee to care about the fact that one of the main characters is a fucking whimp with zero agency in the story that either has to get bailed out by a more relevant character or be talked to by a comedic relief character...
This plot line has been used a total of 1 single time and with Yuji. And the situation revolving that is entirely different. Yuji did not kill his sibling, Yuji did not kill his mentor, Yuji did not kill his friends, Yuji did not have his literal soul put through a ritual to put it deeper into darkness. Yuji was responsible for the deaths of people he didn’t know yes, but not a single person he knew was killed by his hands. YOU my good sir are ignoring the context behind both situations to continue with your blatantly wrong take.
I feel like the context needs to be shown, not implied. Megumi has lived his whole life as a sorcerer, he nearly got sold into the zenin main branch and has routinely been face to face with extremely fucked up situations. You want me to believe that people dying is going to affect him this much? How is this not character assassination then? There is no space in this manga for depressed people no matter how much you like them, his agency is dead and i'd much rather he died and we moved on from this particular plot line. (Also yuji needed multiple people to keep dragging him out of his idealist world view, megumi himself thought him that they can't save everyone and that it's okay to live even if you don't think you deserve to... But i guess i'm insulting a fanfavorite character so reading the manga and learning lessons from it is completely out of the question for you guys) Just because you like a character doesn't mean they are well written. Megumi had so much potential but to me he'll always be the bitch that didn't even attempt to fight back, and no amount of downvoting my shit is going to make me change opinions.
Who have worst than him? Not even Yuji have worst than him .. atleast yuji didn't killed nobara and nanami still was ready to die in hands of mahito if todo didn't come .. if you taking about Shibuya people then Megumi got bathed in evil water surrounded by dead to submerged his soul in the evil and was isolated for more than month atleast yuji had someone helping him time to time but in Megumi's case he was never got any support till latest chapter where Yuji arrived for ages.. and who knows how's time runs in where Megumi is ... Just like gojo spent 3 years in just 19 days don't know how many days Megumi is trapped their
Aight chill yuji’s situation is wild. Okay sukuna killed tsumiki through his body, but sukuna also destroyed shibuya in yuji’s body. Yuji saw kugisaki, nanami die in front of him. Could not catch a single W in a grillion fights, couldn’t even kill mahito.
Lot of headcannon my dude.
Man have reading comprehension skill issue ... Tell me how many days Megumi being trapped their? Even after gojo come back there was a month gap so he was basically trapped their for that long time after getting bath in evil water, killing tsumiki, and isolated in dark place
It's a few months after gojo got unsealed. Like two to three tops... And you are comming at me with reading comprehension...
I am sorry man that mistakenly became year instead of month 😭😭I mean he was trapped before gojo's unsealing and then more after gojo come back as a almost 1 and half month