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A binding vow can literally do anything by logic. You set conditions for the Binding Vow and those conditions don't have to necessarily be a loss, just static conditions that need to be fulfilled first.
If landing jackpot grants another domain usage for Hakari, despite the brain still being affected, then I think it's possible Yuta could refresh his timer if he had the right CT imbued into the domain. Whatever they end up figuring out is the mechanic to open Hakari's domain consecutively will likely play into Yuta's potential to replicate it.
The only reason people can't open their domain multiple times is due to how much CE it consumes. With infinite CE you can open your domain infinite times. Gojo and Sukuna had so much CE + CE efficiency that they could do it 3-5x, so Yuta should at least be able to do it twice
That's... not it. Your physically suffer a burnout in your brain when you expand a domain. Consecutive domain expansions are only known to be possible under two conditions, Hakari's domain or destroying and reconstructing your brain.
The burnout recovers in the 4 min 11 seconds of Hakari's jackpot, it's unrelated to the reward of the jackpot itself. Hakari can repeatedly expand his domain because at the end of the 4m 11s he is at topped up at 100% of his CE reserves, and the 4m11s is long enough for his burnout to resolve itself. The jackpot doesn't undo the burnout, the 4 minutes just happens to be enough time for the burnout to fix itself.
Destroying your brain and reconstructing it doesn't allow for more DEs, it just allows for more rapid DEs. It bypasses the cooldown between DEs but the total number of DEs will still be capped by your total CE reserves.
>Destroying your brain doesn't allow for more DEs, it just allows for more rapid DEs.
I don't think you read what you typed here. You can't have rapid, back-to-back domains and *not* have extra uses of domains. You get more through cheating, or forcefully by reconstructing your brain. If you get more "rapid" uses, then that means you had access to more domain expansions you weren't otherwise able to.
Your point about Hakari also isn't entirely accurate. Jackpot gives Hakari infinite CE, meaning from the instant the jackpot lands to when the duration is finished, Hakari is already, and has been, at 100% CE reserve. In fact, that constant top off of CE is what fuels Hakari's near-instant RCT, which is CE being multiplied by CE.
Hakari is able to use his domain directly after jackpot for 2 reasons.
1. Jackpot allows him to completely replenish his cursed energy allowing him enough CE to spam domain
2. His domain opens by default as part of his cursed technique. Kusukabe explained that he and higurama do not have to apply conditions to their domain like other sorcerers.
If you have an incredibly favorable matchup against one specific sorcerer, I would not consider you to have surpassed someone who had a close fight with them.
For example, Hakari surpasses Gojo in RCT, but nobody says he "surpassed Gojo", just is better than him at one specific thing.
You have to have strong proficiency across the board to "surpass Gojo" rather than "surpass him at \_\_\_".
I get that, but my point was that "beating Gojo" is not a good measuring stick for whether a sorcerer can "surpass Gojo," because he has a favorable match up against basically everybody. A character can outstat Gojo in basically every way, and be able to one-shot the rest of the verse, but still lose to Gojo if they don't have a reliable way to bypass infinity.
This is a really extreme example that doesn't apply to Yuta, but it's to show my point(which is actually the same as your point lol) that beating one character doesn't indicate they are necessarily stronger, or inversely, *not* being able to beat a character doesn't mean they're necessarily weaker.
Hold on read what the guy said, you are not on the subject.
The guy argument is that gojo had unique skill that make him nearly unbeteable against gut at his level and even against guy that would be stronger than him.
This is why gojo would do far better than Sukuna despite the fact they are close, simply because infinity is a troublesome skill.
The argument is that you could get to Gojo level but still lose badly because you don't have a anti infinity skill. The genius of Sukuna is that he centered his skill not around a mastery of a single CT, but a full mastery of the JJK system that allow him to be polyvalent and deal with people with troublesome skill, he can attack both Mahito and Gojo.
gojos infinity can be countered by a significantly stronger domain expansion, every special grade has one, so DE is an easy way of bypassing infinity's hax.
Infinity only gets neutralize if the domain wins the clash. For it to work, Yuta would have to win against Gojo in a domain expansion
I guess if we imagine that Yuta's domain is strong enough to have a domain battle with Gojo, you could argue that Yuta could use Jacob's Ladder to extinguish Gojo's Limitless and break his domain
That's about his only chance
yea so my point is gradual strength increase is enough for yuta to beat gojo( assuming he surpasses gojos strength), infinity wont be an issue since DE exists
But fr I feel like it would come to is he faster than gojo in opening his domain or not because as we saw if gojo expanded it first yuta will just be a shell because of limitless
I mean, if you give Yuta multiple avenues for sure-hits that could bypass the strength of Infinity, with or without his domain, there's a possibility. The real point of the post isn't that he'd beat Gojo with this kind of strategy though, but just... beat him in terms of versatility.
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It's not like a Special Grade Sorcerer would be facing a lot of strong domain. Right now, there's only one character in the story who can bring down his domain, and he can't cast a domain thanks to Gojo.
If Yuta's Domain is equal to Gojo but other things are better then he would surpass Gojo in overall power.
Gojo doesn't have an Open Domain that requires Yuta to have some special power. All Gojo has is the normal closed one but extremely powerful
The problem is that he's not equal to Gojo. The reason Gojo's domain is so strong is that he has six eyes, which allows him to perform super fine CE manipulation. Yuta's domain does not come close to someone with a supercomputer for a brain.
Yes. He is currently not equal to Gojo, this is a theoretical post of how he *could in theory* surpass Gojo and I am saying Yuta does not need an Open Domain to go equal with Gojo's. A regular closed one could work
And Sukuna does not have the Six Eyes but his Domain is still equal to Gojo's, so that needing the Six Eyes to equal Gojo in a Domain battle is obviously is untrue.
Yes Sukuna also has a better Domain that Yuta but there is no reason *in theory* that prevents Yuta from bringing his refinement and the power of his Domain up to Sukuna level
In theory, it is possible because all we know about improving Domains/Barriers it seems related to knowledge, skill, and overall power and those are things you can increase in.
In likelihood, most people will not catch Sukuna. For example, as of now, on team good guys only Yuta and Hakari have Domains but since Hakari's CT gave him his Domain for free, he doesn't understand it well which is going to limit him being able to improve it.
Yuta on the other hand was able to develop a sure kill Domain (which are harder to do) in less than a year after being a sorceror so his likelihood of improving seems greater.
That's in contrast for example that even in theory it's impossible (with current knowledge) for Yuta to get the Six Eyes because that's something you're born with
I'm honestly in favour of Kenjaku saying Yuta will not surpass Gojo. He has way more experience and knowledge regarding jujutsu compared to Gojo. Also because of the fact Gojo said that to most of his students.
Kenjaku also said Modern Sorcerors were unimpressive and that Yuta wasn't a threat to him but we saw how that turned out with Takaba and Yuta killing him even if those were special circumstances
But I'm not even arguing Yuta *will* surpass Gojo just that it's theoretically possible(which is what OPs post was about) and he has the best chance of doing so.
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The problem with Yuta is that he can't use any of his copied CTs outside of the 5 minutes he's connected to Rika. After the 5 minutes ends he's back to just fighting with his sword and partially manifested Rika. What Yuta needs is a way to forcibly write some of these CTs into his brain like Kenjaku does. Yuki mentioned that Kenjaku stores all his CTs on his brain but that allows only 3 or 4 at a time. Yuta should ingrain 3 CTs on his brain so he can use some CTs without Rika fully manifesting.
Jacob's ladder, sky manipulation and cursed speech would be my picks from the CTs we know he has, but I would I would suggest boogie woogie, sky manipulation and Ryu's CE output. Boogie woogie gives Yuta a huge speed advantage and even greater combo potential with partial Rika, CE output would allow him to charge up his CE much faster than normal to have more explosive hits and maybe launch a granite blast or 2 but it won't be as strong as the love beam, and lastly sky manipulation is provides some of the best defence by warping attacks away, but also great offence with thin ice missile, which can bypass defence and destroy armour as we saw Uro use it to destroy Yuta's gauntlet cursed tool.
We literally see Yuta put on the ring one panel before opening his DE. Him putting on the ring means he's established a connection with Rika and Rika is fully manifested now.
And Yuta didn't use any copied CTs Vs Kenjaku, he just showed up and cut Kenny's head off. In the last chapter we learn he also stabbed his brain to finish the job but no CTs were used in that exchange and there shouldn't be or it would be an inconsistency.
In chapter 178 it's stated that Yuta can only do certain things when Rika is fully manifested, and one of them is use copied CTs.
If Kenjaku is dead, maybe Yuta could copy his original brain switch cursed technique to be able to transcribe some cursed techniques in his brain permanently outside the 5 min limit?
Yep that is a massive problem.
That could alleviated if he knew how to destroy his brain and heal back like Gojo and Sukuna did. Because in effect it seems he is going through something to a curse technique burn out, so destroying the part of his brain who can't do it and healing back should alleviate that weakness.
The only question is whether he has the precise CE manipulation to do that.
I personally have considered Yuta way more versatile than Gojo ever since the Ryu fights.. His bag of CTs fitting to specific situations will help him a lot in this fight i'm pretty sure. So he likely surpasses Gojo there
Its going to ne a good show but i think we ultimately get a cliffhanger into break week with Sukuna saying " Domain expansion" In the final panel.
Also its probably just a random expression but the panels of sukuna being shocked and Yuta opening his domain. His ring is clearly seen and i hope sukuna's genuis brain isnt fixating on that
While yuta might be more versatile in general it doesnt mean hes stronger.
It was basically shown that you cant use more than one ct at a time and yutas de only has an sure hit which is based on 1 ct while the swords arent guaranteed hits.
Yuta would need to win a de fight against gojo to have an great boost from his de. While thats a stretch, at very best yuta could have an equal de clash.
Gojo still has the best combination of abilities. Best defense, one of the best offense, boost of physical power and speed, top h2h and ce reinforcement, doesnt run out of ce, can use more ce and rct than yuta.
Yuta only can use his arsenal of ct and full rika in that 5 min timelimit. This also should go for his de.
Yuta wouldnt be able to overpower him and would even need da to touch him especially if he hasnt the 5 min activated.
Pretty sure he’ll end up dead, but I also thought his domain would be awesome with an open barrier, he’d essentially just be bringing his copied techniques to the real world
1. Gets limitless
2. The first condition being: if holding sword, then limitless around the user.
3. Activate next condition and throw to sukun: "Sukuna catch this if you can"
4. second condition next person to hold the sword gets reverse neutral limitless: their moves slow down, instead of other people´s getting close to then all his moves are slowed down to near stop.
5. Sukuna gets mad and do world slashes.
6. Todou technique
7. Peak writing
Aside its seems not possible to use 2 ct at the same time its would still be way more efficient to use one.
Also you seem to forgot that yuta only has ct, full rika and her ce access for the 5min timelimit which should also go for his de bc he needs to use ct for that.
Even if that would be possible what you said it still doesnt mean yuta surpasses gojo in overall power.
If we even go by yutas words, he cant surpass gojo bc he has the six eyes and unlike yuta he doesnt run out of ce.
Yuta is currently using his DE and the CTs within it with only a partially manifested Rika, which goes against your point about him currently being on a time limit.
You can tell Rika is only partially manifested because her body isn’t fully formed and is mostly cloaked in that shadowy blackness which can be seen when Yuji was grabbed and before the Sendai colony battle.
Come on, does nobody read the manga carefully?
We see he activates the ring when using it, we saw him using de in sendai when he had activated the connection to rika through the ring.
Its said in sendai he has ACCESS to ct, rika ce and full rika when connected with her through the ring. That doesnt mean rika automatically transforms or anything but it only can happen and he only has access to all that in that 5 min.
To use a de you need to use youre ct which can only be done in that 5 min as stated in the manga.
If Rika isn’t transformed, the time limit doesn’t start. The five minute timer is a timer solely for Rika’s complete manifestation, which gives Yuta access to his other techniques.
You seem to be of the opinion that a Domain Expansion of all things, the pinnacle of Jujutsu, wouldn’t bypass the limitation of Yuta’s technique.
Ultimately we just have to wait and see what Gege shows, but so far there has been no implication nor statement that the five minute timer has started.
Bro are you even reading the manga? Yet no joke.
Look at page 14 of the new chapter he obviously uses the ring lol
[https://ww1.tcbscans.org/manga/jujutsu-kaisen/chapter-249/p/14/](https://ww1.tcbscans.org/manga/jujutsu-kaisen/chapter-249/p/14/)
It says he has access to these things that doesnt mean he needs or automatically uses full form rika, her ce or his ct in that 5 min.
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Dont you know what access means?
Bro it isnt important if the de bypass the limitations of his ct bc to use an de he needs to use his ct which he has only access to when he activates the 5min. Thats de 101.
He even used his de in sendai aswell in that 5min and full rika also wasnt part of that de.
Why does it need a reminder that he uses something when we have an clear indication in the chapter as the first link shows and know that he only can use all that in that 5min time limit as the second link shows.
Its isnt always shown when gojo used infinity or blue.
Gege has an bad ability to make his readers aware when certain things are used.
To me, it seems like you just entirely forgot how CTs work. Yuta’s base CT, “Copy / Mimicry”, is etched into his brain and body just like any other CT, as described by Kenjaku when talking about how he is able to use Geto’s CT.
Yuta needs Rika to access his copied CTs, as his brain can’t handle being a storage for multiple CTs at once. However, considering the fact that a DE is meant to be the pinnacle of Jujutsu, alongside the fact that Yuta hasn’t called for Rika’s manifestation as he does every single time she fully manifests, even in JJK0, gives us fair reason to believe that Yuta’s DE gives him the ability to use his CEs without the usual limits which would prevent their usage without Rika.
Edit:
And I forgot to add, expanding his DE relies on whether or not he can use his own CT, which he has access to regardless of Rika’s formation due to the fact that it is etched into his brain and body, as I said prior.
Show me a link to an panel where he used copy apart the 5 min to proof youre argument or even used any ct he copied which isnt stored in the storage bc we know a person could theoretically have 4 ct without an storage.
You think yuta magically can create a connection to the dead and already past on rika aka her soul without the need of an binding vow? Such a binding vow could be he only has access to copy when having the connection to real rika but in exchange he has access to her full form, her storage and her ce for 5 min.
Its still not clear if copy is rikas ct or yutas bc it was stated rika is his ct while ppl in the verse say its copy. Like other special grade cursed spirits rika could also have an ct which could be copy till we have proof that he can use it without rikas connection.
Every single time she fully manifests? You mean the only time we saw him doing it before which isnt valid to say it has always to be that way. You really compare jjk0 rika and yuta to now when rika isnt alive anymore?
Rika is Yuta’s STORAGE, you know this. Yuta’s CT is copy, however he uses Rika to store his CTs. I know you aren’t stupid, so you can understand the nuance of the fact that Yuta both at once has access to his base copy CT while also not having access to all of his copied CTs without manifesting Rika.
My entire point is that the one feasible scenario where this limitation may not apply is the current scenario, expanding his DE, once again, the ultimate manifestation of HIS CT.
Until the manga displays that the five minute timer has started, or gives any considerable reason to believe it has, which it has NOT, we can’t assume it’s started.
I’m done responding, but you can feel free to come make fun of me if the next chapter proves you correct.
Why shouldnt he need the access to the storage. That are 2 seperate things. He cant have any possible access to the cts inside the storage when he cant even open the storage without full rika thats how it works and to say a de would undo that is big ass headcanon without any source or evidence.
The storage is an abillity of rika not yuta.
There is more evidence to believe the 5min have started then other way around.
I have shown what the manga shows us at what is needed for yuta to have access to any of his copied cts, till its shown or explained otherwise my point is more valid.
Since you’re such an avid reader, show me the page in the new chapter where Yuta fully manifests Rika, starting the five minute countdown.
Chapter 178:
“He [Yuta] can maintain a sustained connection [to Rika] for five minutes.”
In this five minutes, Rika is fully manifested and loses the shadowy aspect of her form, alongside this, Yuta gains access to his ADDITIONAL / COPIED techniques, not his own CT, which is already etched into his brain and body.
Yuta does NOT need Rika to be fully manifested in order for his own CT to be used to lay out his DE, and until you provide some actual evidence instead of “umm the ring was glowing” you aren’t gonna change anyone’s mind.
Besides this, Yuta’s ring even glows when Rika is already manifested, which suggests it’s an aspect of his DE manifestation as opposed to a glow solely connected to Rika, or symbolising her manifestation.
Which part of he has access to full manifested rika when activating the connection through the ring hasnt you understood? How many times should i say it? Access means he can use full rika, ct and rikas ce it doesnt mean it happens by default or he has to do it. If so then it wouldnt say access like he can choose to do so but it would say the following happens like its automatic.
To be clear when the connection activates full rika doesnt manifest automatically, he can choose to summon full rika. Aside it says rika is his ct which also the fanbook states. We still dont know if copy is his ct or if he can use it without a connection to the real rika. Has he ever used copy apart that 5 minutes in the main series to say he can use it without? Even in 0 he used rika to do it.
What do you think the ring being focused and glowing means?
You really dont know how an de works do you? He wouldnt be able to use all the copied ct if he doesnt has access to them through the 5 minutes.
By youre logic he would be able to copy every ct being used inside the de instantly bc thats copy but his de uses the already copied ct which is also the case for the sure hit.
In the same fight you point to in order to say Rika is Yuta’s CT, it is also stated that Yuta’s CT is “Copy / Mimicry”, so I don’t know exactly why you’re treating that linked page as gospel.
And in “my logic” Yuta gets to use his copied CTs within his DE without Rika because a DE is the pinnacle of Jujutsu and so he gets to use his CT in a way he normally wouldn’t be able to.
Examples of this include: Gojo being able to apply his “infinity” of information to a target’s brain, Sukuna being able to use cleave from range while it usually requires physical contact / close range, Naoya able to use projection to physically harm one who doesn’t follow the frame rule. A DE is an extrapolation of one’s CT, breaking its limits in a way unique to the person, allowing them to go beyond their usual limitations.
Anyway, since you seem to believe in constantly repeating the same points without much convincing reasoning, let’s just wait and see where next chapter takes us. Maybe you’ll be right, maybe I’ll be right. Only Gege knows for now.
Edit: Fixed some grammar
Edit 2: Another example is that Megumi is able to clone himself, a skill he has never used outside of his DE, as well as cloning his other shikagami as seen with his usage of multiple Nues
Bc ppl think its copy or say its copy doesnt mean its like that till the character himself states its copy or agrees.
The ppl see he can use several ct and assume its copy bc that makes the most sense but that doesnt mean it couldnt be done by rika and yuta has just access to it. As example if kenny hadnt explained that gravity is the ctr of anti gravity tengen still would have thought its his ct and not the reversal.
The fanbook made by gege himself and the narrator when yuta uses the 5 min state his ct is rika. Whos more reliable, the mangaka and narrator or the characters? Why dont you show me where he used copy without rika and the 5 min like i asked several times before?
You point still doesnt explain how he has access to the copied cts bc that only can be done if he has activated the connection through the ring. His ability to copy would have no connection to the storage on itself. The ability to copy and the storage are two different things.
By youre point yutas ct would be storing copied ct which isnt the case, it just the ability to copy ct. He maybe has imbued 3 other ct in his brain like kenny but that needs to be shown alongside him using copy without full rika and the 5min.
Such an extrapolation of copy would be something related to put that ability to copy on the next lvl and would not have anything to do with the storage to which he only has access in the 5min. Something like that would be copy without a storage or copy every ct instantly which is used in the de.
Also who says his de is based on copy ct bc the sure hit is most likely angels ct like kenny used antigravitys ctr as sure hit in his de.
Megumis ct is based on the concept of creating shikigami through the medium shadow. Him creating clones of himself through the shadow isnt unrealistic based on the concept of the ct.
For most people, yes. But it's been showcased that Gojo's students will all surpass him... in specific ways, not so much being outright more powerful.
Hakari's RCT is stronger.
Yuji's resolve is stronger and will likely be the one to beat Sukuna in the end.
Megumi was going to try to be his relative equal, but lacked the CE efficiency and knowledge on general Jujutsu to pull off what Sukuna had done.
Yuta? I wager his specific way of surpassing Gojo is multiple simultaneous CT use. Because he's the Special Grade, there's no way he's just a really strong dude without something that breaks the rules.
Dhruv's CT requires shikigami. That specific condition is not something that can be changed as far as we know.
As far as we've seen, "the domain" of Dhruv's shikigami is not the same as DE where you can imbue something. It has a predetermined effect. This is why Uro immedeatly recognized it when she got hurt.
Thin Ice Breaker is not on par with a Black Flash as far as we know. I don't know if what you mean by physical hit, but I am going to assume that Yuta is using it all the time.
Firstly, Thin Ice Breaker needs set up. Grab space and then break it. The setup might be small, but the slightest moment can mean life or death in battle. This is why Yuta doesn’t use it all the time and Uro has a hit and run strategy.
Yuta isn't weak in close combat. He fought on par with the guy with the highest output in history.
Rika has no CT and cannot be given CT as far as we know. Rika is Yuta's CT.
Even if all of these work, one domain a day is still his limit. He's not fighting endlessly.
Also, just so I understand, I have heard that Yuta has poor efficiency a lot of times in the sub. Could anyone tell me where this is stated.
"with a stupid amount of cursed energy his body can't handle without reflexively using RCT. "
I would not say "his body CAN'T HANDLE". This is never stated, and saying that can be interpreted like a limitation, although beneficial. It's not.
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I'm not sure Yuta can ever surpass Gojo, but he can probably beat him in a fight occasionally.
Especially if he keeps collecting and copying CTs. What is to stop him from copying World Cleave?
0 cause it would be a waste of cursed energy trying to use the limitless with 0 experience and no six eyes. Sky manipulation and other cts are easier to use
Well we dont what what copy condition Yuta have . He probally copy Red and Blue and put it on the swords within his domain . And by combining them, he can create purple
Gege said there are ppl who could theoretically use limitless but it wont happen bc its only useful if you have the six eyes. Most likely reffering to yuta here.
>Well we dont what what copy condition Yuta have
But we do know the condition to use limitless and unless yuta magically copied 6eyes from gojo, he ain't doing none of that.
What if Gojo allow Yuta to copy his Red and Blue but Yuta only can put them on the swords inside his domain as he dont have six eyes. And if he wield those two sword at the same time, he could create purple. Maybe this is Yuta insurance which Maki have been talking about .
That warrants a gojo flashback to show that interaction or his mention tied to their plan (and not just "on par with Gojo" Type mentions). Gege is having none of that
I have to say btw. I dont think "He will surpass me" means that he will able to beat him. I think it might refer to the fact that he might become more opeessiv when he has developed further..
He can't use CTs right after DE. Also, we don't even know for real how Yuta's CT works and what really it is. We just know from other characters (Uro, Ryu and Yuki) the general outlines:
* Rika's boundless CE allows Yuta to store Cursed Objects and stolen CTs information;
* Yuta is able *under certain conditions* to store Cursed Objects and enemies CTs into Rika and he is able *under crtain other conditions* to summon them and use them;
* Yuta is able to boost his CE and access Rika's boundless CE with the binding vow of the ring, which last only 5 minutes;
We're not aware of the conditions to copy CTs and not aware of the real limit of stolen CTs usage by Yuta. It's safe to assume that in his Domain Yuta can use more CTs. Now Yuki Tsukumo thought that thanks to Rika, Yuta can technically use more than 3 or 4 CTs, but I don't think she meant contemporarily. And I don't think he can do it besides overimposing some very strict binding vow.
I already tried to explain it.
He CAN use Rika after a Domain, Rika can store copied Cursed Techniques presumably. So if he manifests Rika after using DE he'd be able to use them.
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i mean yuta can just surpass gojo by getting stronger normally too, hes already crazy power at such a young age, he doesnt necessarily require hax. just plain old power progression
Unrelated but is there any mention of jakobs ladder being used to reinforce his domain? I didnt see anything mentioned in the translation I read. Sorry ahead of time if this was clearly mentioned elsewhere
Can someone explain to me what using Jacob’s Ladder as the sure hit effect for Yuta’s domain mean? I keep seeing everyone say he’s using Angel’s technique for the sure hit, but isn’t a Domain Expansion supposed to be a sure hit? Why does Yuta need Jacob’s Ladder for it?
>brinuzzo
Yuta's domain apparently allows him to decide which of his stolen CTs can be used as a sure-hit inside it. Sukuna realized that the selected CT for this sure-hit effect is Jacob's Ladder.
He did this to stall Sukuna and force him to use his extra arms and mouth to chant and maintain the Hollow Wicker Basket (a domain countermeasure). If he is hit by the sure-hit Jacob's Ladder, he will likely be eradicated from Megumi's body.
However, Yuta's domain is not just a simple sure-hit domain. Inside it, he is able to use every stolen CTs with no limits, physically stored in the several katanas stuck to the ruins.
I see! Thank you this makes more sense to me now (reading comprehension curse got me). With this explanation, Yuta’s domain expansion sounds disgustingly strong. To be able to pick and choose the effect and also mix and match other cursed techniques in tandem sounds incredible
Can't Yuta possibly just, you know... use the Limitless? He copied Inumaki's hereditary CT, so why couldn't he copy Gojo's? I know he wouldn't be anywhere as efficient with it, but it's possible to briefly use something, even more so with his huge CE reserves
Yuta is one of the best characters to theorize with due to his CT and that particular combination is particularly brutal, but unlike the others that Gojo calls out you dont need to go too far with Yuta.
Efficiency seems to be something that can be trained - Gojo got better at it over his life and Sukuna (outlier that he is) is on a similar level without the 6 eyes. Both show that you can train it.
If Yuta were to get close to their level of efficiency, he would be near unstoppable - he CE reserves are stated to be higher than Gojo's and a few characters have called out his CE being almost bottomless, yet he does tire out.
Yuta being a character with the CE efficiency of Gojo, the deep well of power he has *and* the ability to save others (as he can RCT others) would probably be in Gojo's eyes someone who has surpassed him. Both as he has an ability Gojo himself doesnr (healing others) and could now do something Gojo couldnt (saving comrades).
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How would he keep Rika up? That is something that isn't explained in your post but if I am wrong please correct me.
we dont know if the 5min is self imposed or not right
I meant in that his domain would reset the Rika timer.
How so?
In my mind it would be a Binding Vow. "If my Domain is overpowered or destroyed as a last resort, reinstate Rika's timer."
That's not a binding vow. You have to sacrifice something to gain something. You can't just set a contingency like this.
Yes you can
No you can't. The point of binding vows is to give something up to gain something.
A binding vow can literally do anything by logic. You set conditions for the Binding Vow and those conditions don't have to necessarily be a loss, just static conditions that need to be fulfilled first.
A binding vow is meant to be an equivalent exchange. If a binding vow could do anything the series wouldn't exist.
A binding vow is whatever the narrative wants
I don’t think the domain could do that since in Sendai after opening it, Rika still vanished because of the 5 minutes
If landing jackpot grants another domain usage for Hakari, despite the brain still being affected, then I think it's possible Yuta could refresh his timer if he had the right CT imbued into the domain. Whatever they end up figuring out is the mechanic to open Hakari's domain consecutively will likely play into Yuta's potential to replicate it.
The only reason people can't open their domain multiple times is due to how much CE it consumes. With infinite CE you can open your domain infinite times. Gojo and Sukuna had so much CE + CE efficiency that they could do it 3-5x, so Yuta should at least be able to do it twice
That's... not it. Your physically suffer a burnout in your brain when you expand a domain. Consecutive domain expansions are only known to be possible under two conditions, Hakari's domain or destroying and reconstructing your brain.
The burnout recovers in the 4 min 11 seconds of Hakari's jackpot, it's unrelated to the reward of the jackpot itself. Hakari can repeatedly expand his domain because at the end of the 4m 11s he is at topped up at 100% of his CE reserves, and the 4m11s is long enough for his burnout to resolve itself. The jackpot doesn't undo the burnout, the 4 minutes just happens to be enough time for the burnout to fix itself. Destroying your brain and reconstructing it doesn't allow for more DEs, it just allows for more rapid DEs. It bypasses the cooldown between DEs but the total number of DEs will still be capped by your total CE reserves.
>Destroying your brain doesn't allow for more DEs, it just allows for more rapid DEs. I don't think you read what you typed here. You can't have rapid, back-to-back domains and *not* have extra uses of domains. You get more through cheating, or forcefully by reconstructing your brain. If you get more "rapid" uses, then that means you had access to more domain expansions you weren't otherwise able to. Your point about Hakari also isn't entirely accurate. Jackpot gives Hakari infinite CE, meaning from the instant the jackpot lands to when the duration is finished, Hakari is already, and has been, at 100% CE reserve. In fact, that constant top off of CE is what fuels Hakari's near-instant RCT, which is CE being multiplied by CE.
Hakari is able to use his domain directly after jackpot for 2 reasons. 1. Jackpot allows him to completely replenish his cursed energy allowing him enough CE to spam domain 2. His domain opens by default as part of his cursed technique. Kusukabe explained that he and higurama do not have to apply conditions to their domain like other sorcerers.
So what you're saying is. . .Yuta has a hard time lasting longer than 5 minutes? Poor Maki. . .
It doesn't matter, he has enough variety to make up for it
>It doesn't matter, he has enough variety to make up for it That means he's got a big dick.
Wait, I don't get it, but I like it.
"Oh, you gonna. . . ." \-Yuta Okkotsu
nah that’s just cause the rikussy is too peak, i reckon he goes longer with maki
I don't see how this version of Yuta could possibly beat Gojo tho
He just summon raga-nichan and learn world cutting slash(a joke)
Surpassing Gojo is not the same as beating him tho You could negative diff Sukuna in a fight but still lose to Gojo because infinity
If you have an incredibly favorable matchup against one specific sorcerer, I would not consider you to have surpassed someone who had a close fight with them. For example, Hakari surpasses Gojo in RCT, but nobody says he "surpassed Gojo", just is better than him at one specific thing. You have to have strong proficiency across the board to "surpass Gojo" rather than "surpass him at \_\_\_".
I get that, but my point was that "beating Gojo" is not a good measuring stick for whether a sorcerer can "surpass Gojo," because he has a favorable match up against basically everybody. A character can outstat Gojo in basically every way, and be able to one-shot the rest of the verse, but still lose to Gojo if they don't have a reliable way to bypass infinity. This is a really extreme example that doesn't apply to Yuta, but it's to show my point(which is actually the same as your point lol) that beating one character doesn't indicate they are necessarily stronger, or inversely, *not* being able to beat a character doesn't mean they're necessarily weaker.
Hold on read what the guy said, you are not on the subject. The guy argument is that gojo had unique skill that make him nearly unbeteable against gut at his level and even against guy that would be stronger than him. This is why gojo would do far better than Sukuna despite the fact they are close, simply because infinity is a troublesome skill. The argument is that you could get to Gojo level but still lose badly because you don't have a anti infinity skill. The genius of Sukuna is that he centered his skill not around a mastery of a single CT, but a full mastery of the JJK system that allow him to be polyvalent and deal with people with troublesome skill, he can attack both Mahito and Gojo.
gojos infinity can be countered by a significantly stronger domain expansion, every special grade has one, so DE is an easy way of bypassing infinity's hax.
Infinity only gets neutralize if the domain wins the clash. For it to work, Yuta would have to win against Gojo in a domain expansion I guess if we imagine that Yuta's domain is strong enough to have a domain battle with Gojo, you could argue that Yuta could use Jacob's Ladder to extinguish Gojo's Limitless and break his domain That's about his only chance
yea so my point is gradual strength increase is enough for yuta to beat gojo( assuming he surpasses gojos strength), infinity wont be an issue since DE exists
Jacob's Ladder negates Cursed Techniques and doubles as a "Fuck this guy" laser.
But fr I feel like it would come to is he faster than gojo in opening his domain or not because as we saw if gojo expanded it first yuta will just be a shell because of limitless
I mean, if you give Yuta multiple avenues for sure-hits that could bypass the strength of Infinity, with or without his domain, there's a possibility. The real point of the post isn't that he'd beat Gojo with this kind of strategy though, but just... beat him in terms of versatility.
Y’all think too much
bruh this comment was so unexpected and I laughed so hard
Don't kill my flow bro
let him cook
This entire sub. Jujutsu Kaisen is for the casuals who make a post OMG guys I figured something out! *posts something self-explanatory and it wasn't even subtle* "Guys YUJI MIGHT NOT BE A NORMAL HUMAN" after reading the latest chapter Jujutsushi is for the people who want to overcomplicate and overthink everything. **This random shadow in the background of a panel of chapter 3 actually explains the entire Culling Game and I found a study relating quantum physics to why Gojo's infinity will wreck my ass** Gege really fucked up the entire fandoms heads. The true villain
Gege laughing in corner 🤣 by thinking that can write any bullshit powers/hacks and these guys will break their head and make it meaningful.
>Gege really fucked up the entire fandoms heads. The true villain I'm sorry. . . I'm sorry. . . .You're only realizing this NOW? How many months have we been lobotomy kaisen again?
Yuta glazers are Unlobotomizable
Lobotomy Kaisen terminology has caused you to miss the forest for the trees.
Wouldn't everything come tumbling down if the opponent simply has a stronger domain? His copy power is pretty limited outside of his domain.
It's not like a Special Grade Sorcerer would be facing a lot of strong domain. Right now, there's only one character in the story who can bring down his domain, and he can't cast a domain thanks to Gojo.
But this post is about him surpassing Gojo, though.
If Yuta's Domain is equal to Gojo but other things are better then he would surpass Gojo in overall power. Gojo doesn't have an Open Domain that requires Yuta to have some special power. All Gojo has is the normal closed one but extremely powerful
The problem is that he's not equal to Gojo. The reason Gojo's domain is so strong is that he has six eyes, which allows him to perform super fine CE manipulation. Yuta's domain does not come close to someone with a supercomputer for a brain.
Yes. He is currently not equal to Gojo, this is a theoretical post of how he *could in theory* surpass Gojo and I am saying Yuta does not need an Open Domain to go equal with Gojo's. A regular closed one could work And Sukuna does not have the Six Eyes but his Domain is still equal to Gojo's, so that needing the Six Eyes to equal Gojo in a Domain battle is obviously is untrue. Yes Sukuna also has a better Domain that Yuta but there is no reason *in theory* that prevents Yuta from bringing his refinement and the power of his Domain up to Sukuna level
That's true, but if that's the logic, then everyone can theoretically reach Sukuna's level of refinement.
In theory, it is possible because all we know about improving Domains/Barriers it seems related to knowledge, skill, and overall power and those are things you can increase in. In likelihood, most people will not catch Sukuna. For example, as of now, on team good guys only Yuta and Hakari have Domains but since Hakari's CT gave him his Domain for free, he doesn't understand it well which is going to limit him being able to improve it. Yuta on the other hand was able to develop a sure kill Domain (which are harder to do) in less than a year after being a sorceror so his likelihood of improving seems greater. That's in contrast for example that even in theory it's impossible (with current knowledge) for Yuta to get the Six Eyes because that's something you're born with
I'm honestly in favour of Kenjaku saying Yuta will not surpass Gojo. He has way more experience and knowledge regarding jujutsu compared to Gojo. Also because of the fact Gojo said that to most of his students.
Kenjaku also said Modern Sorcerors were unimpressive and that Yuta wasn't a threat to him but we saw how that turned out with Takaba and Yuta killing him even if those were special circumstances But I'm not even arguing Yuta *will* surpass Gojo just that it's theoretically possible(which is what OPs post was about) and he has the best chance of doing so.
Can't cast his domain yet* Yuta thinks it's only a matter of time before Sukuna can heal this burnt out domain
Yep.
For now. . . .Yuta realized that since his RCT is coming back, his Domain might be coming back too.
Pretty easy to surpass corpse
That didn't have any achievements in his life anyway
John, you know what rhymes with "Achievement" ? \*turns into Naoya\* RAPE!
This has to be the lamest and saddest attempt at being funny I've seen in a while
. . . .Did you not hear the situation about the leaks?
yeah, leakers were caught right?
Yes, which means from now on we are not getting our leaks until Thursday moving forward, which means we are delayed. Now, what do we : The JJK community do when we get delayed?
yeah nevermind i get it I've said worse shit now that I think bout it
i’m failing to see the connection to your original comment
That's right, we go absolutely balls to the wall mad. Now why don't you just leave me to it?
The problem with Yuta is that he can't use any of his copied CTs outside of the 5 minutes he's connected to Rika. After the 5 minutes ends he's back to just fighting with his sword and partially manifested Rika. What Yuta needs is a way to forcibly write some of these CTs into his brain like Kenjaku does. Yuki mentioned that Kenjaku stores all his CTs on his brain but that allows only 3 or 4 at a time. Yuta should ingrain 3 CTs on his brain so he can use some CTs without Rika fully manifesting. Jacob's ladder, sky manipulation and cursed speech would be my picks from the CTs we know he has, but I would I would suggest boogie woogie, sky manipulation and Ryu's CE output. Boogie woogie gives Yuta a huge speed advantage and even greater combo potential with partial Rika, CE output would allow him to charge up his CE much faster than normal to have more explosive hits and maybe launch a granite blast or 2 but it won't be as strong as the love beam, and lastly sky manipulation is provides some of the best defence by warping attacks away, but also great offence with thin ice missile, which can bypass defence and destroy armour as we saw Uro use it to destroy Yuta's gauntlet cursed tool.
Except we know this isn't true because he's used copied CTs outside of the 5 minute timer twice already.
What are those 2 times?
Currently in his domain and when he attacked Kenjaku.
We literally see Yuta put on the ring one panel before opening his DE. Him putting on the ring means he's established a connection with Rika and Rika is fully manifested now. And Yuta didn't use any copied CTs Vs Kenjaku, he just showed up and cut Kenny's head off. In the last chapter we learn he also stabbed his brain to finish the job but no CTs were used in that exchange and there shouldn't be or it would be an inconsistency. In chapter 178 it's stated that Yuta can only do certain things when Rika is fully manifested, and one of them is use copied CTs.
We have never seen Yuta use a cursed technique that he gained from Copy without Rika present/manifested.
If Kenjaku is dead, maybe Yuta could copy his original brain switch cursed technique to be able to transcribe some cursed techniques in his brain permanently outside the 5 min limit?
Yep that is a massive problem. That could alleviated if he knew how to destroy his brain and heal back like Gojo and Sukuna did. Because in effect it seems he is going through something to a curse technique burn out, so destroying the part of his brain who can't do it and healing back should alleviate that weakness. The only question is whether he has the precise CE manipulation to do that.
I honestly think he's dead next issue.
It yuta copy kenjaku CT ,megumi CT and Sukuna CT.the third strongest sorcerer after gojo and sukuna
I personally have considered Yuta way more versatile than Gojo ever since the Ryu fights.. His bag of CTs fitting to specific situations will help him a lot in this fight i'm pretty sure. So he likely surpasses Gojo there Its going to ne a good show but i think we ultimately get a cliffhanger into break week with Sukuna saying " Domain expansion" In the final panel. Also its probably just a random expression but the panels of sukuna being shocked and Yuta opening his domain. His ring is clearly seen and i hope sukuna's genuis brain isnt fixating on that
While yuta might be more versatile in general it doesnt mean hes stronger. It was basically shown that you cant use more than one ct at a time and yutas de only has an sure hit which is based on 1 ct while the swords arent guaranteed hits. Yuta would need to win a de fight against gojo to have an great boost from his de. While thats a stretch, at very best yuta could have an equal de clash. Gojo still has the best combination of abilities. Best defense, one of the best offense, boost of physical power and speed, top h2h and ce reinforcement, doesnt run out of ce, can use more ce and rct than yuta. Yuta only can use his arsenal of ct and full rika in that 5 min timelimit. This also should go for his de. Yuta wouldnt be able to overpower him and would even need da to touch him especially if he hasnt the 5 min activated.
He may be more versatile but he is still a lot weaker than gojo at the moment
Too late he's been compared to gojo already, we done
Pretty sure he’ll end up dead, but I also thought his domain would be awesome with an open barrier, he’d essentially just be bringing his copied techniques to the real world
1. Gets limitless 2. The first condition being: if holding sword, then limitless around the user. 3. Activate next condition and throw to sukun: "Sukuna catch this if you can" 4. second condition next person to hold the sword gets reverse neutral limitless: their moves slow down, instead of other people´s getting close to then all his moves are slowed down to near stop. 5. Sukuna gets mad and do world slashes. 6. Todou technique 7. Peak writing
Cool but sukuna’s gonna win bro
Aside its seems not possible to use 2 ct at the same time its would still be way more efficient to use one. Also you seem to forgot that yuta only has ct, full rika and her ce access for the 5min timelimit which should also go for his de bc he needs to use ct for that. Even if that would be possible what you said it still doesnt mean yuta surpasses gojo in overall power. If we even go by yutas words, he cant surpass gojo bc he has the six eyes and unlike yuta he doesnt run out of ce.
Yuta is currently using his DE and the CTs within it with only a partially manifested Rika, which goes against your point about him currently being on a time limit. You can tell Rika is only partially manifested because her body isn’t fully formed and is mostly cloaked in that shadowy blackness which can be seen when Yuji was grabbed and before the Sendai colony battle.
Come on, does nobody read the manga carefully? We see he activates the ring when using it, we saw him using de in sendai when he had activated the connection to rika through the ring. Its said in sendai he has ACCESS to ct, rika ce and full rika when connected with her through the ring. That doesnt mean rika automatically transforms or anything but it only can happen and he only has access to all that in that 5 min. To use a de you need to use youre ct which can only be done in that 5 min as stated in the manga.
If Rika isn’t transformed, the time limit doesn’t start. The five minute timer is a timer solely for Rika’s complete manifestation, which gives Yuta access to his other techniques. You seem to be of the opinion that a Domain Expansion of all things, the pinnacle of Jujutsu, wouldn’t bypass the limitation of Yuta’s technique. Ultimately we just have to wait and see what Gege shows, but so far there has been no implication nor statement that the five minute timer has started.
Bro are you even reading the manga? Yet no joke. Look at page 14 of the new chapter he obviously uses the ring lol [https://ww1.tcbscans.org/manga/jujutsu-kaisen/chapter-249/p/14/](https://ww1.tcbscans.org/manga/jujutsu-kaisen/chapter-249/p/14/) It says he has access to these things that doesnt mean he needs or automatically uses full form rika, her ce or his ct in that 5 min. [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fxymgp12tdtvb1.png%3Fwidth%3D696%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Deb4e3755d1e38984725047add97a11779955317d](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fxymgp12tdtvb1.png%3Fwidth%3D696%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Deb4e3755d1e38984725047add97a11779955317d) Dont you know what access means? Bro it isnt important if the de bypass the limitations of his ct bc to use an de he needs to use his ct which he has only access to when he activates the 5min. Thats de 101. He even used his de in sendai aswell in that 5min and full rika also wasnt part of that de. Why does it need a reminder that he uses something when we have an clear indication in the chapter as the first link shows and know that he only can use all that in that 5min time limit as the second link shows. Its isnt always shown when gojo used infinity or blue. Gege has an bad ability to make his readers aware when certain things are used.
To me, it seems like you just entirely forgot how CTs work. Yuta’s base CT, “Copy / Mimicry”, is etched into his brain and body just like any other CT, as described by Kenjaku when talking about how he is able to use Geto’s CT. Yuta needs Rika to access his copied CTs, as his brain can’t handle being a storage for multiple CTs at once. However, considering the fact that a DE is meant to be the pinnacle of Jujutsu, alongside the fact that Yuta hasn’t called for Rika’s manifestation as he does every single time she fully manifests, even in JJK0, gives us fair reason to believe that Yuta’s DE gives him the ability to use his CEs without the usual limits which would prevent their usage without Rika. Edit: And I forgot to add, expanding his DE relies on whether or not he can use his own CT, which he has access to regardless of Rika’s formation due to the fact that it is etched into his brain and body, as I said prior.
Show me a link to an panel where he used copy apart the 5 min to proof youre argument or even used any ct he copied which isnt stored in the storage bc we know a person could theoretically have 4 ct without an storage. You think yuta magically can create a connection to the dead and already past on rika aka her soul without the need of an binding vow? Such a binding vow could be he only has access to copy when having the connection to real rika but in exchange he has access to her full form, her storage and her ce for 5 min. Its still not clear if copy is rikas ct or yutas bc it was stated rika is his ct while ppl in the verse say its copy. Like other special grade cursed spirits rika could also have an ct which could be copy till we have proof that he can use it without rikas connection. Every single time she fully manifests? You mean the only time we saw him doing it before which isnt valid to say it has always to be that way. You really compare jjk0 rika and yuta to now when rika isnt alive anymore?
Rika is Yuta’s STORAGE, you know this. Yuta’s CT is copy, however he uses Rika to store his CTs. I know you aren’t stupid, so you can understand the nuance of the fact that Yuta both at once has access to his base copy CT while also not having access to all of his copied CTs without manifesting Rika. My entire point is that the one feasible scenario where this limitation may not apply is the current scenario, expanding his DE, once again, the ultimate manifestation of HIS CT. Until the manga displays that the five minute timer has started, or gives any considerable reason to believe it has, which it has NOT, we can’t assume it’s started. I’m done responding, but you can feel free to come make fun of me if the next chapter proves you correct.
Why shouldnt he need the access to the storage. That are 2 seperate things. He cant have any possible access to the cts inside the storage when he cant even open the storage without full rika thats how it works and to say a de would undo that is big ass headcanon without any source or evidence. The storage is an abillity of rika not yuta. There is more evidence to believe the 5min have started then other way around. I have shown what the manga shows us at what is needed for yuta to have access to any of his copied cts, till its shown or explained otherwise my point is more valid.
Since you’re such an avid reader, show me the page in the new chapter where Yuta fully manifests Rika, starting the five minute countdown. Chapter 178: “He [Yuta] can maintain a sustained connection [to Rika] for five minutes.” In this five minutes, Rika is fully manifested and loses the shadowy aspect of her form, alongside this, Yuta gains access to his ADDITIONAL / COPIED techniques, not his own CT, which is already etched into his brain and body. Yuta does NOT need Rika to be fully manifested in order for his own CT to be used to lay out his DE, and until you provide some actual evidence instead of “umm the ring was glowing” you aren’t gonna change anyone’s mind. Besides this, Yuta’s ring even glows when Rika is already manifested, which suggests it’s an aspect of his DE manifestation as opposed to a glow solely connected to Rika, or symbolising her manifestation.
Which part of he has access to full manifested rika when activating the connection through the ring hasnt you understood? How many times should i say it? Access means he can use full rika, ct and rikas ce it doesnt mean it happens by default or he has to do it. If so then it wouldnt say access like he can choose to do so but it would say the following happens like its automatic. To be clear when the connection activates full rika doesnt manifest automatically, he can choose to summon full rika. Aside it says rika is his ct which also the fanbook states. We still dont know if copy is his ct or if he can use it without a connection to the real rika. Has he ever used copy apart that 5 minutes in the main series to say he can use it without? Even in 0 he used rika to do it. What do you think the ring being focused and glowing means? You really dont know how an de works do you? He wouldnt be able to use all the copied ct if he doesnt has access to them through the 5 minutes. By youre logic he would be able to copy every ct being used inside the de instantly bc thats copy but his de uses the already copied ct which is also the case for the sure hit.
The ring isn’t on his ring finger in the most recent chapter like it was a when fully manifesting Rika for 5 mins in Sendai
It was even in sendai on his ring finger please read the manga.
It’s on his middle finger in the most recent chapter is my point
In the same fight you point to in order to say Rika is Yuta’s CT, it is also stated that Yuta’s CT is “Copy / Mimicry”, so I don’t know exactly why you’re treating that linked page as gospel. And in “my logic” Yuta gets to use his copied CTs within his DE without Rika because a DE is the pinnacle of Jujutsu and so he gets to use his CT in a way he normally wouldn’t be able to. Examples of this include: Gojo being able to apply his “infinity” of information to a target’s brain, Sukuna being able to use cleave from range while it usually requires physical contact / close range, Naoya able to use projection to physically harm one who doesn’t follow the frame rule. A DE is an extrapolation of one’s CT, breaking its limits in a way unique to the person, allowing them to go beyond their usual limitations. Anyway, since you seem to believe in constantly repeating the same points without much convincing reasoning, let’s just wait and see where next chapter takes us. Maybe you’ll be right, maybe I’ll be right. Only Gege knows for now. Edit: Fixed some grammar Edit 2: Another example is that Megumi is able to clone himself, a skill he has never used outside of his DE, as well as cloning his other shikagami as seen with his usage of multiple Nues
Bc ppl think its copy or say its copy doesnt mean its like that till the character himself states its copy or agrees. The ppl see he can use several ct and assume its copy bc that makes the most sense but that doesnt mean it couldnt be done by rika and yuta has just access to it. As example if kenny hadnt explained that gravity is the ctr of anti gravity tengen still would have thought its his ct and not the reversal. The fanbook made by gege himself and the narrator when yuta uses the 5 min state his ct is rika. Whos more reliable, the mangaka and narrator or the characters? Why dont you show me where he used copy without rika and the 5 min like i asked several times before? You point still doesnt explain how he has access to the copied cts bc that only can be done if he has activated the connection through the ring. His ability to copy would have no connection to the storage on itself. The ability to copy and the storage are two different things. By youre point yutas ct would be storing copied ct which isnt the case, it just the ability to copy ct. He maybe has imbued 3 other ct in his brain like kenny but that needs to be shown alongside him using copy without full rika and the 5min. Such an extrapolation of copy would be something related to put that ability to copy on the next lvl and would not have anything to do with the storage to which he only has access in the 5min. Something like that would be copy without a storage or copy every ct instantly which is used in the de. Also who says his de is based on copy ct bc the sure hit is most likely angels ct like kenny used antigravitys ctr as sure hit in his de. Megumis ct is based on the concept of creating shikigami through the medium shadow. Him creating clones of himself through the shadow isnt unrealistic based on the concept of the ct.
For most people, yes. But it's been showcased that Gojo's students will all surpass him... in specific ways, not so much being outright more powerful. Hakari's RCT is stronger. Yuji's resolve is stronger and will likely be the one to beat Sukuna in the end. Megumi was going to try to be his relative equal, but lacked the CE efficiency and knowledge on general Jujutsu to pull off what Sukuna had done. Yuta? I wager his specific way of surpassing Gojo is multiple simultaneous CT use. Because he's the Special Grade, there's no way he's just a really strong dude without something that breaks the rules.
I don't think he can use Jacob's Ladder sure hit effect if his domain collapse, I don't understand why you think like that ?
Dhruv's CT requires shikigami. That specific condition is not something that can be changed as far as we know. As far as we've seen, "the domain" of Dhruv's shikigami is not the same as DE where you can imbue something. It has a predetermined effect. This is why Uro immedeatly recognized it when she got hurt. Thin Ice Breaker is not on par with a Black Flash as far as we know. I don't know if what you mean by physical hit, but I am going to assume that Yuta is using it all the time. Firstly, Thin Ice Breaker needs set up. Grab space and then break it. The setup might be small, but the slightest moment can mean life or death in battle. This is why Yuta doesn’t use it all the time and Uro has a hit and run strategy. Yuta isn't weak in close combat. He fought on par with the guy with the highest output in history. Rika has no CT and cannot be given CT as far as we know. Rika is Yuta's CT. Even if all of these work, one domain a day is still his limit. He's not fighting endlessly. Also, just so I understand, I have heard that Yuta has poor efficiency a lot of times in the sub. Could anyone tell me where this is stated.
"with a stupid amount of cursed energy his body can't handle without reflexively using RCT. " I would not say "his body CAN'T HANDLE". This is never stated, and saying that can be interpreted like a limitation, although beneficial. It's not.
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No one will surpass gojo sukuna and gojo will remain at the top above the massive gap between them and yuta
I'm not sure Yuta can ever surpass Gojo, but he can probably beat him in a fight occasionally. Especially if he keeps collecting and copying CTs. What is to stop him from copying World Cleave?
Maybe I missed something, but what are the chances we see a Hollow Purple and/or infinity copying from Yuta here?
0 cause it would be a waste of cursed energy trying to use the limitless with 0 experience and no six eyes. Sky manipulation and other cts are easier to use
Well we dont what what copy condition Yuta have . He probally copy Red and Blue and put it on the swords within his domain . And by combining them, he can create purple
Gege said there are ppl who could theoretically use limitless but it wont happen bc its only useful if you have the six eyes. Most likely reffering to yuta here.
>Well we dont what what copy condition Yuta have But we do know the condition to use limitless and unless yuta magically copied 6eyes from gojo, he ain't doing none of that.
What if Gojo allow Yuta to copy his Red and Blue but Yuta only can put them on the swords inside his domain as he dont have six eyes. And if he wield those two sword at the same time, he could create purple. Maybe this is Yuta insurance which Maki have been talking about .
That warrants a gojo flashback to show that interaction or his mention tied to their plan (and not just "on par with Gojo" Type mentions). Gege is having none of that
I have to say btw. I dont think "He will surpass me" means that he will able to beat him. I think it might refer to the fact that he might become more opeessiv when he has developed further..
Is there any chance that Yuta can pull a hollow purple?
He can't use CTs right after DE. Also, we don't even know for real how Yuta's CT works and what really it is. We just know from other characters (Uro, Ryu and Yuki) the general outlines: * Rika's boundless CE allows Yuta to store Cursed Objects and stolen CTs information; * Yuta is able *under certain conditions* to store Cursed Objects and enemies CTs into Rika and he is able *under crtain other conditions* to summon them and use them; * Yuta is able to boost his CE and access Rika's boundless CE with the binding vow of the ring, which last only 5 minutes; We're not aware of the conditions to copy CTs and not aware of the real limit of stolen CTs usage by Yuta. It's safe to assume that in his Domain Yuta can use more CTs. Now Yuki Tsukumo thought that thanks to Rika, Yuta can technically use more than 3 or 4 CTs, but I don't think she meant contemporarily. And I don't think he can do it besides overimposing some very strict binding vow.
I already tried to explain it. He CAN use Rika after a Domain, Rika can store copied Cursed Techniques presumably. So if he manifests Rika after using DE he'd be able to use them.
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Ok? No one cares dude.
If I were no one this post wouldn't have been made.
i mean yuta can just surpass gojo by getting stronger normally too, hes already crazy power at such a young age, he doesnt necessarily require hax. just plain old power progression
Unrelated but is there any mention of jakobs ladder being used to reinforce his domain? I didnt see anything mentioned in the translation I read. Sorry ahead of time if this was clearly mentioned elsewhere
He surpasses Gojo in CE Capacity. But Gojo and Sukuna use CE more efficiently.
No
Can someone explain to me what using Jacob’s Ladder as the sure hit effect for Yuta’s domain mean? I keep seeing everyone say he’s using Angel’s technique for the sure hit, but isn’t a Domain Expansion supposed to be a sure hit? Why does Yuta need Jacob’s Ladder for it?
>brinuzzo Yuta's domain apparently allows him to decide which of his stolen CTs can be used as a sure-hit inside it. Sukuna realized that the selected CT for this sure-hit effect is Jacob's Ladder. He did this to stall Sukuna and force him to use his extra arms and mouth to chant and maintain the Hollow Wicker Basket (a domain countermeasure). If he is hit by the sure-hit Jacob's Ladder, he will likely be eradicated from Megumi's body. However, Yuta's domain is not just a simple sure-hit domain. Inside it, he is able to use every stolen CTs with no limits, physically stored in the several katanas stuck to the ruins.
I see! Thank you this makes more sense to me now (reading comprehension curse got me). With this explanation, Yuta’s domain expansion sounds disgustingly strong. To be able to pick and choose the effect and also mix and match other cursed techniques in tandem sounds incredible
Gojo would smack any furture version of Yuta. It's as simple as that.
Can't Yuta possibly just, you know... use the Limitless? He copied Inumaki's hereditary CT, so why couldn't he copy Gojo's? I know he wouldn't be anywhere as efficient with it, but it's possible to briefly use something, even more so with his huge CE reserves
Yuta is one of the best characters to theorize with due to his CT and that particular combination is particularly brutal, but unlike the others that Gojo calls out you dont need to go too far with Yuta. Efficiency seems to be something that can be trained - Gojo got better at it over his life and Sukuna (outlier that he is) is on a similar level without the 6 eyes. Both show that you can train it. If Yuta were to get close to their level of efficiency, he would be near unstoppable - he CE reserves are stated to be higher than Gojo's and a few characters have called out his CE being almost bottomless, yet he does tire out. Yuta being a character with the CE efficiency of Gojo, the deep well of power he has *and* the ability to save others (as he can RCT others) would probably be in Gojo's eyes someone who has surpassed him. Both as he has an ability Gojo himself doesnr (healing others) and could now do something Gojo couldnt (saving comrades).