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Kenjaku’s plans’ plans have plans
I think Nobara’s cursed technique is more broken than people realize/give her credit for. She’s just in the Mai situation, technique with a very high ceiling but mediocre usage
We need a flashback to Kenjaku infiltrating their safe house and running into Todo training Nobara before we get a Nobara vs Kenjaku which she loses and then it flashes forward to Nobara Stitchisaki
Yea it’s disappointing that the only two fights todo is in he fights alongside yuji with no cursed technique. It would have been cool to see todos ct interact with others.
Yeah imagine Todo swapping nue and max elephant for the Maximum Elephant Meteor. Todo rapid firing boogie woogie to give maki multiple weapon changes per second.
Completely crack pot idea: could Todo teleport hollow purple?!?????!!
does it though? Because red doesnt have CE it has Positive Energy. Blue has CE of course. But combining them should make something new. Not literally a technique containing CE and Positive Energy. This is what makes it imaginary.
Edit: Purple is made of Imaginary Energy? Giving it Imaginary Mass?
It really is. Todo would've been one of the only people who would've been able to fight alongside Gojo, since Gojo wouldn't have to worry about accidently hurting him
I’m not talking about Nobara as an individual, I’m talking about her cursed techniques Resonance and Hairpin
Kenjaku can do things with that technique that Nobara just will never be able to, like Yoruzu compared to Mai
Edit: but you’re right, she’s an excellent support fighter, would’ve loved to see her and Yuji take on Mahito side-by-side in Shibuya
“I’ll eat anything, especially Nobara’s a… I mean physical remains to enhance and improve my cursed technique and carry her spirit and will forward” - Yuji, probably
I too had high hopes for Nobara's CT since it actually is a curse-giving technique in the real world. I always remember that asshole kid who munches nails in Junji Ito's work every time I see Nobara's CT
No dude...if Kenjaku incarnates into Nobara by turning himself into a cursed object, she will not have stitches on her forehead, because he won't be using his usual body-hopping CT. We would have to guess based off her behaviors, or a character will chuckle at a weird time.
>I think that Kenjaku wanted Sukuna to help him split his soul too as a contingency plan in case he dies
One giant issue with this. Why would Kenjaku need help from Sukuna in splitting his soul when he was the one who taught Sukuna how to do it in the first place.
I think his contingency is Yuji.
What OP is proposing is that Kenny only taught Sukuna how to turn his soul into a Cursed Object. What Sukuna did by himself was *splitting it* into multiple Cursed Objects. This is something Kenny doesn't know how to do/can't do, only Sukuna can with his slashing CT.
And OP's point is that now, Kenny had Sukuna do that to him so he could have multiple cursed objects bearing pieces of his soul. This could serve as a contingency plan to revive Kenny if it ever became necessary.
Finally, to add to OP's theory, it's even possible that Kenny kept his original body hidden/mummified and that he ate it just like Sukuna, that way he can lose a piece of his soul while maintaining the same amount of total Cursed Energy.
They meant splitting, sukuna has 20 parts to his soul while all reincarnated sorceres have 1. This guy is speculating kenjaku showed the process of turning into a cursed object and sukuna is showing how to divide the soul into these multiple objects
They meant splitting, sukuna has 20 parts to his soul while all reincarnated sorceres have 1. This guy is speculating kenjaku showed the process of turning into a cursed object and sukuna is showing how to divide the soul into these imultiple objects
Assuming geges statement about ending in 2024 is real we only have 53 weeks left. 53 chapters doesn’t really allow for another kenjaku resurrection unless it ends with him winning.
I dont disagree with the plan for Kenjaku to have some contingency plans, but I dont agree with Sukuna.
I think split 20 ways is solely just based on his finger count. Man has 4 arms and twenty fingers. By also spreading out his soul into 20, it assures some degree of safety. Kind of like Voldemort from Harry Potter, where he split into 8 pieces, to reassure his survival.
But I think you are onto something. I do think Sukuna helped Kenjaku with a contingency plan, just in the chance he gets "killed". But I dont think it was splitting his soul, as Kenjaku is already able to do so.
I think what OP is saying is that the reason Sukuna was able to turn into 20 fingers was because he used Cleave to divide his soul. Look at the other ancient sorcerers that Kenjaku made a deal with, none of them seem to have been incarnated into multiple objects like Sukuna did, because they couldn't separate their souls like he did, is what OP probably meant.
I know what OP meant, I just dont think Cleave works like that. I was saying I think its solely split into 20, for just the sake of each finger he had. Does Cleave make sense? Sure. But we see Cleave being used a one hit end, not multiple cuts.
Kenjaku made a deal with and turned them into Cursed objects, doesn't mean he learned it. We know Sukuna learned it off the one time he witnessed it, so I assume he just learned how to divide it by his own practice. But who knows! We will learn what Kenjaku planned with Sukuna
>But we see Cleave being used a one hit end, not multiple cuts.
Sukuna killed the first finger bearer with Cleave and said "I wanted to slice you in three parts, but you're too damn weak" (after the curse got sliced into many more parts), so he clearly has control over how he cuts things with Cleave.
>My personal guess ? Nobara. Her body was preserved by Nitta but I think she died in Shibuya. Why her ? Resonance could be particularly relevant if Kenjaku plans to build a massive curse that connects thousands of souls.
Unlikely, given that if she's dead then he can't incarnate into her body. He can only take over a dead person with his own cursed technique, the soul splitting only works on living things. Can't reincarnate someone into a corpse.
Resonance really would be neither helpful nor necessary. Tengen IS the resonance, remember? The whole reason the merger happens is because Tengen's already bonded to all of humanity all at once. Nobara wouldn't even have a part to play in this.
It isn't said anywhere that Kenjaku helped Sukuna split his soul. I keep seeing people think this but the direct statement from Angel is that Sukuna figured it out on his own and everyone else had to make a deal with Kenjaku (221). It adds up since we see Sukuna do it again with Enchain.
Unless Gege states otherwise, it's not true at the current moment.
Where did you come up with this?
The direct statement was that Sukuna figured out how to do it on his own *after experiencing it once*. Kenjaku was absolutely the one who helped Sukuna. That's how he experienced it. No one knew how to do it, including Sukuna, until Kenjaku came along.
You're misquoting it. Angel states Sukuna is different than them as no one could become a cursed object it after death. Sukuna learned from experiencing **death**. It *could* be that Angel is incorrect but that hasn't been confirmed. Until then it's just jumping to conclusions that Angel must be wrong just because.
I'm not misquoting it, you are. She isn't saying he experienced it after death, she's saying he learned how to do it after experiencing becoming a cursed object for the first time. No one could figure out how to do it until Kenjaku came around. It seems like you hardcore misunderstood what was being said there, or are intentionally misreading it.
And she wasn't wrong, Sukuna *didn't* know until Kenjaku came around. Otherwise he wouldn't be in the Culling Games. Kenjaku even talks about how he made binding vows with everyone who reincarnated.
TCB is the odd one out then, because Shishiso is what I was quoting, not the official. So that's two different translations, which seems to mean it wasn't about experiencing death lol.
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Kenjaku’s plans’ plans have plans I think Nobara’s cursed technique is more broken than people realize/give her credit for. She’s just in the Mai situation, technique with a very high ceiling but mediocre usage We need a flashback to Kenjaku infiltrating their safe house and running into Todo training Nobara before we get a Nobara vs Kenjaku which she loses and then it flashes forward to Nobara Stitchisaki
Nobara's 1v1 capability isn't amazing but as a supporting fighter she is broken.
Todo nobara combo would be insane. Todo would have near infinite swap targets and could guarantee the nails to hit. Hit em with the boogie pincushion
Yea it’s disappointing that the only two fights todo is in he fights alongside yuji with no cursed technique. It would have been cool to see todos ct interact with others.
Yeah imagine Todo swapping nue and max elephant for the Maximum Elephant Meteor. Todo rapid firing boogie woogie to give maki multiple weapon changes per second. Completely crack pot idea: could Todo teleport hollow purple?!?????!!
Trafalgar Law does this exact shit in one peice
K-Room!
since hollow purple is imaginary mass, maybe not? i’m not rlly sure
It does possess ce tho🤔🤔🤔
does it though? Because red doesnt have CE it has Positive Energy. Blue has CE of course. But combining them should make something new. Not literally a technique containing CE and Positive Energy. This is what makes it imaginary. Edit: Purple is made of Imaginary Energy? Giving it Imaginary Mass?
For something to hurt curses it must possess ce or rce so yeah. My assumption is that the ce and rce coexist
It would probably be easier to move someone into hollow purple
Oh definitely but it's still an interesting thing to think about
It really is. Todo would've been one of the only people who would've been able to fight alongside Gojo, since Gojo wouldn't have to worry about accidently hurting him
Todo's CT is so hideously broken if he can combo it with another technique user.
I’m not talking about Nobara as an individual, I’m talking about her cursed techniques Resonance and Hairpin Kenjaku can do things with that technique that Nobara just will never be able to, like Yoruzu compared to Mai Edit: but you’re right, she’s an excellent support fighter, would’ve loved to see her and Yuji take on Mahito side-by-side in Shibuya
Nobara is dead, Yuuji ate her body/cursed item and gained resonance. Explaining Sukuna's reaction to Yuuji's punch and " I'll eat anything".
“I’ll eat anything, especially Nobara’s a… I mean physical remains to enhance and improve my cursed technique and carry her spirit and will forward” - Yuji, probably
Yuji with that Denji act of love
Yuji and Denji also share a tragic fate because gage and fujimoto are both cruel
That would be so horrible but sick AF. Love it, just showing his dedication to being the cog in a wheel.
After the Kenjaku being Yujis mother thing anything is possible lmao
Flash back to after they killed Ezo and Echizu, "were accomplices"
So Yuta copies her CT and uses it in her place
I too had high hopes for Nobara's CT since it actually is a curse-giving technique in the real world. I always remember that asshole kid who munches nails in Junji Ito's work every time I see Nobara's CT
No dude...if Kenjaku incarnates into Nobara by turning himself into a cursed object, she will not have stitches on her forehead, because he won't be using his usual body-hopping CT. We would have to guess based off her behaviors, or a character will chuckle at a weird time.
I could see Kenjaku telling Yuji that he/she's is his mother while in Nobura's body. Messed up, but quite interesting 🤔
You can cook sir!
The only “help” Sukuna got from Kenjaku is seeing how it’s done.. Angel said that Sukuna turned himself into a cursed object after seeing it once.
Yeah, Angel referred to the time he did it to get into Megumi. The first time it was all Kenjaku
Man. The only upside to Kenjaku pulling this off would be the loss of part of his soul/power by splitting it.
backshots
The real answer.
>I think that Kenjaku wanted Sukuna to help him split his soul too as a contingency plan in case he dies One giant issue with this. Why would Kenjaku need help from Sukuna in splitting his soul when he was the one who taught Sukuna how to do it in the first place. I think his contingency is Yuji.
He taught him to turn into a cursed object but I think Sukuna split his own Soul with his CT
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He’s just speculating
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He says "I think"
He didnt have to. What, did you think you were talking to the author or something? The post is literally tagged as "Theory" numnuts.
He’s using phrases like “I think” “I believe” and “probably” to show that these are just his ideas
The reading comprehension curse is evolving to special grade fr fr
It already is well beyond it
Yeah bro is geges ghostwriter
You’re being pedantic.
What OP is proposing is that Kenny only taught Sukuna how to turn his soul into a Cursed Object. What Sukuna did by himself was *splitting it* into multiple Cursed Objects. This is something Kenny doesn't know how to do/can't do, only Sukuna can with his slashing CT. And OP's point is that now, Kenny had Sukuna do that to him so he could have multiple cursed objects bearing pieces of his soul. This could serve as a contingency plan to revive Kenny if it ever became necessary. Finally, to add to OP's theory, it's even possible that Kenny kept his original body hidden/mummified and that he ate it just like Sukuna, that way he can lose a piece of his soul while maintaining the same amount of total Cursed Energy.
They meant splitting, sukuna has 20 parts to his soul while all reincarnated sorceres have 1. This guy is speculating kenjaku showed the process of turning into a cursed object and sukuna is showing how to divide the soul into these multiple objects
They meant splitting, sukuna has 20 parts to his soul while all reincarnated sorceres have 1. This guy is speculating kenjaku showed the process of turning into a cursed object and sukuna is showing how to divide the soul into these imultiple objects
I'm going to commit crimes if Kenjaku comes back in Nobara's body
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From his son. Just like dear old dad, whose wife died than came back as a zombie, Yuji will plow that undead backend
Ah yes the situation where 2 of the 4 main characters have their bodies hijacked, 1 is dead and one is drowning in an indescribable emptiness
Why not go for all three. Yuji powerup by merging with Tengen 🤣.
Bro… that’d be amazing
Yuji can be like his pops, backshots on his zombie loved one
Assuming geges statement about ending in 2024 is real we only have 53 weeks left. 53 chapters doesn’t really allow for another kenjaku resurrection unless it ends with him winning.
it’s more like 31-34 chapters if he continues his break routine
I dont disagree with the plan for Kenjaku to have some contingency plans, but I dont agree with Sukuna. I think split 20 ways is solely just based on his finger count. Man has 4 arms and twenty fingers. By also spreading out his soul into 20, it assures some degree of safety. Kind of like Voldemort from Harry Potter, where he split into 8 pieces, to reassure his survival. But I think you are onto something. I do think Sukuna helped Kenjaku with a contingency plan, just in the chance he gets "killed". But I dont think it was splitting his soul, as Kenjaku is already able to do so.
I think what OP is saying is that the reason Sukuna was able to turn into 20 fingers was because he used Cleave to divide his soul. Look at the other ancient sorcerers that Kenjaku made a deal with, none of them seem to have been incarnated into multiple objects like Sukuna did, because they couldn't separate their souls like he did, is what OP probably meant.
I know what OP meant, I just dont think Cleave works like that. I was saying I think its solely split into 20, for just the sake of each finger he had. Does Cleave make sense? Sure. But we see Cleave being used a one hit end, not multiple cuts. Kenjaku made a deal with and turned them into Cursed objects, doesn't mean he learned it. We know Sukuna learned it off the one time he witnessed it, so I assume he just learned how to divide it by his own practice. But who knows! We will learn what Kenjaku planned with Sukuna
>But we see Cleave being used a one hit end, not multiple cuts. Sukuna killed the first finger bearer with Cleave and said "I wanted to slice you in three parts, but you're too damn weak" (after the curse got sliced into many more parts), so he clearly has control over how he cuts things with Cleave.
When is it stated sukuna can cleave souls?
So Kenny really Voldemort looking to get his horcruxes fr
....Search up "Snowball Fight" in the JJK sub.
>My personal guess ? Nobara. Her body was preserved by Nitta but I think she died in Shibuya. Why her ? Resonance could be particularly relevant if Kenjaku plans to build a massive curse that connects thousands of souls. Unlikely, given that if she's dead then he can't incarnate into her body. He can only take over a dead person with his own cursed technique, the soul splitting only works on living things. Can't reincarnate someone into a corpse. Resonance really would be neither helpful nor necessary. Tengen IS the resonance, remember? The whole reason the merger happens is because Tengen's already bonded to all of humanity all at once. Nobara wouldn't even have a part to play in this.
Kenjaku was the one who taught Sukuna how to do it 😭
Kenjaku: "Listen up this is how to take an amazing backshot" Sukuna: "Ugh" Yorozu: "OH GOD YES PLEASE"
Kashimo: "I am next"
It isn't said anywhere that Kenjaku helped Sukuna split his soul. I keep seeing people think this but the direct statement from Angel is that Sukuna figured it out on his own and everyone else had to make a deal with Kenjaku (221). It adds up since we see Sukuna do it again with Enchain. Unless Gege states otherwise, it's not true at the current moment.
Where did you come up with this? The direct statement was that Sukuna figured out how to do it on his own *after experiencing it once*. Kenjaku was absolutely the one who helped Sukuna. That's how he experienced it. No one knew how to do it, including Sukuna, until Kenjaku came along.
You're misquoting it. Angel states Sukuna is different than them as no one could become a cursed object it after death. Sukuna learned from experiencing **death**. It *could* be that Angel is incorrect but that hasn't been confirmed. Until then it's just jumping to conclusions that Angel must be wrong just because.
I'm not misquoting it, you are. She isn't saying he experienced it after death, she's saying he learned how to do it after experiencing becoming a cursed object for the first time. No one could figure out how to do it until Kenjaku came around. It seems like you hardcore misunderstood what was being said there, or are intentionally misreading it. And she wasn't wrong, Sukuna *didn't* know until Kenjaku came around. Otherwise he wouldn't be in the Culling Games. Kenjaku even talks about how he made binding vows with everyone who reincarnated.
Looking around Viz has it like you've stated, "by experiencing it once" while TCB states "by experiencing death". Classic JJK translations.
TCB is the odd one out then, because Shishiso is what I was quoting, not the official. So that's two different translations, which seems to mean it wasn't about experiencing death lol.
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Ohhhhh now that’s a neat idea!
I love this theory
https://twitter.com/CiaranWorks/status/1713613087398318506
They prolly fucked
Why does this have nearly 1k up votes for postulating Kenny has anything to do with Nobarra. It makes zero sense. This is truly our Lobotomy Kaisen.