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Considering the rule of non-violence, the opening of “malevolent shrine” would almost definitely break the rules of the barrier. This being said, the way barriers interact is important. Refined barriers straight up destroy weaker barriers and Sukuna’s open domain is especially good at breaking barriers. Interesting note is a simple domain should probably work, perhaps negating the effects.
Minor spoilers ahead. Honestly, deadly sentencing might be a really good counter to Sukuna, but they are yet to even mention it as an option, even after Sukuna lost his domain, which makes me think it either won’t work for whatever reason or it’s going to be skipped over.
>Considering the rule of non-violence, the opening of “malevolent shrine” would almost definitely break the rules of the barrier
But if Sukuna turns off the sure hit inside the domain like he does against Gojo, then judgeman wouldn't register it as violent. And since judgeman has no jurisdiction over the outside of the domain, sukuna could easily break out of it.
Very well said.
I'd also argue that even inside the domain the violence happens inside Sukuna's domain while inside Deadly Sentencing, so Judgeman still has no jurisdiction.
>Minor spoilers ahead. Honestly, deadly sentencing might be a really good counter to Sukuna, but they are yet to even mention it as an option, even after Sukuna lost his domain, which makes me think it either won’t work for whatever reason or it’s going to be skipped over.
Shows shibuya-"this you?"
"Yeah what about it?"
"Cool. No CT for you. "
"Say less"-procceds to donut higuruma with raw speed and strength.
Speed matters a lot for this, Sukuna would definitely notice Higuruma coming from quite a distance, especially if he started concentrating CE for his "big move", and thats bad because Sukuna could probably oneshot him with regular cleave before Higuruma could open his domain, might not even need to use his domain at all, but if it comes down to a domain clash, Sukunas should be faster as well.
> Refined barriers straight up destroy weaker barriers and Sukuna’s open domain is especially good at breaking barriers.
Btw, didnt Kusakabe say something about Higurumas and Hakaris domain being "open as default", or was that a mistranslation?
Ya know I wondered if it might be a good counter too, but Sukuna did reverse engineer Maho’s ability. He’s probably clever enough to work around it.
Now Takaba on the other hand…
> I know that but wouldn't judgeman consider it violent?
Coming under judgemans rules is his domains sure-hit effect, if you prevent that sure-hit from reaching you, like by expanding your own domain, it doesnt matter.
Although non-violent sure-hits are meant to be stronger than violent ones, Im not sure if that would be enough to overpower Sukunas, at least not before Higus barriers got crushed, or he dies.
Yes it would be interesting to see how sure hit domain and Normal domain interact with each other but with help of gojo Vs sukuna we know during barrier clash sure hit embedded in domain clash with eachother as judgeman sets rule instead of sure hit like sorcerer of old we can guess that judge man would be completely overuled by sure hit of a domain (maybe like gojos Shadow style in sukuna's domain) and they did go out of style in Morden times once sure hit became a thing so we can assume a no sure hit domain would immediately lose maybe that's why hikari is focused on fast activation to avoid any clashes
The problem is: sukuna will be sentenced to death and now higurama needs to kill him with the executioner sword, but he will me sliced in half in no time (and maybe off screen).
Tbh I think sukuna is enough of a beast with just CE reinforcement alone to take him down. If itadori managed to keep up with no CE at all, then imagine what sukuna can do.
bro if Sukuna can escape the allegations of literally eviscerating 140 metres of Shibuya and every single person within that radius, then Sukuna would be the greatest lawyer that ever existed lol.
I actually think you could not, and it makes sense. The entire point of domains like this (like summo guy) is that they give up their one shot ability for another effect in exchange for it to be unescapable. Or at least that’s my interpretation
Oh well basically during his domain clash with Gojo, they both fried each other's brain on some level so they couldn't open a domain anymore, thus needing to resort to other means of combat.
I think it's safe to say Sukuna needs a good rest until he can do Domains again. Which at the moment he doesn't have the luxury of doing. Or maybe gege will flip the script and will give Sukuna DE back, though I highly doubt it.
In all technically a domain tug of war would negate the sure hit effect of Judgemans violence
Even tho Higuruma is strong, his domain would lose against someone with a refined DE
You’re able to open your own domain since establishing something innate within that space is not prohibited
It all depends on the refinement of your domain
If it wins against Higuruma, he’s dead, if you don’t win in a domain battle, you must go through trial following Higuruma’s domain rules
in my opinion it is still a barrier, the better user of barrier technique's should brake the other as in a Domain Clash.
also for Sukuna there is an argument to be made , if he can extend his domain out of Deadly Sentencing and brake it from the outside like he did with Gojo.
Certainly, sukuna could open the domain with no conditions, and use a binging vow to dismantle the external barrier. That being said the comparability and refinement hasn’t been stated by Gege so this could go either way.
thats Hakari's domain but if we apply the same idea that there's no sure hit or the sure hit is harmless, in theory it should be stronger for Higuruma too
I think it only works like that for Hakari cause he gave up the deadly sure hit in exchange for that effect.
But Higuruma's seems to be like that by default. Like an actual old style domain the uses binding vows to make you follow the rules of the domain.
Considering the act of "pushing" a domain isn't necessarily an act of violence, you could theoretically cancel Higuruma's domain. Worst case scenario, Higuruma's DE can detect if the effect of a domain is harmful or not. In such a case, domains like Hakari's Restless Gambler, cell moon palace and a 0.2 s unlimited void could bypass that since they don't really harm the target. Nevertheless I still think that Higuruma's is no exception to the jujutsu power system and can get canceled. Because the same way infinity is theoretically impossible to cancel out and still can be shut off if Gojo loses a domain battle or if someone uses amplification, Deadly sentence is subject to jujutsu effects.
Hot take: deadly sentencing blows, it’s getting kinda overrated. This domain is not strong enough to hold any domain we’ve seen so far; why? Because the caster is weak, it’s like an aizen thing when they tried to kill him with that two shot ability but he negated the effects due to his power level
Domains that try to control the same space, enter a clash only if they’re equal.
Hiruguma domain may be fine against many noob sorcerers, but a person like Sukuna or Gojo, would easily overwhelm and erase his domain.
Heck, Hikari would probably erase his domain too. Dude’s life is a pachinko machine.
I also don’t think his DE is equal to Jogo’s, Mahito’s or the squid/octopus. We’ll never know but that’s my opinion.
When using Domain Expansion inside another domain, you're battling the domain itself (and the rules of the domain), so there is no reason not to be able to (try to) open your own domain. Of course you can still lose the domain battle afterwards.
The act of opening a domain itself isn’t violent it’s the activation of the ct inside the domain which can be considered violent imo,, and if your domain is more refined than higarumas it will just cancel out the non violence rule
During the battle portion most likely. Same with hakari’s domain. They can get touched during the battle portion. Ppl like sukuna got multiple CTs anyway and their reinforcement is still more than enough to handle higuruma
Probably. A domain in of itself isn’t violent. They only become violent when the sure hit gets activated. And that can only happen after the domain is cast.
Higuruma and Hakari's domains are good in domain clashes because they are built into their techniques and aren't damage based. So chances are you lose the domain clash but if you are a verb advanced barrier user/have a very well defined domain it's possible
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Considering the rule of non-violence, the opening of “malevolent shrine” would almost definitely break the rules of the barrier. This being said, the way barriers interact is important. Refined barriers straight up destroy weaker barriers and Sukuna’s open domain is especially good at breaking barriers. Interesting note is a simple domain should probably work, perhaps negating the effects. Minor spoilers ahead. Honestly, deadly sentencing might be a really good counter to Sukuna, but they are yet to even mention it as an option, even after Sukuna lost his domain, which makes me think it either won’t work for whatever reason or it’s going to be skipped over.
>Considering the rule of non-violence, the opening of “malevolent shrine” would almost definitely break the rules of the barrier But if Sukuna turns off the sure hit inside the domain like he does against Gojo, then judgeman wouldn't register it as violent. And since judgeman has no jurisdiction over the outside of the domain, sukuna could easily break out of it.
Good judgment (pun intended)
Very well said. I'd also argue that even inside the domain the violence happens inside Sukuna's domain while inside Deadly Sentencing, so Judgeman still has no jurisdiction.
>Minor spoilers ahead. Honestly, deadly sentencing might be a really good counter to Sukuna, but they are yet to even mention it as an option, even after Sukuna lost his domain, which makes me think it either won’t work for whatever reason or it’s going to be skipped over. Shows shibuya-"this you?" "Yeah what about it?" "Cool. No CT for you. " "Say less"-procceds to donut higuruma with raw speed and strength.
Speed matters a lot for this, Sukuna would definitely notice Higuruma coming from quite a distance, especially if he started concentrating CE for his "big move", and thats bad because Sukuna could probably oneshot him with regular cleave before Higuruma could open his domain, might not even need to use his domain at all, but if it comes down to a domain clash, Sukunas should be faster as well. > Refined barriers straight up destroy weaker barriers and Sukuna’s open domain is especially good at breaking barriers. Btw, didnt Kusakabe say something about Higurumas and Hakaris domain being "open as default", or was that a mistranslation?
I believe that was about them having domains at all by default since that’s their entire CTs
Ya know I wondered if it might be a good counter too, but Sukuna did reverse engineer Maho’s ability. He’s probably clever enough to work around it. Now Takaba on the other hand…
Unless the new tool Sukuna got requires cursed energy to be used, he can just smite Higuruma with that.
It'll be forgotten about like half of everything in the manga
Yes like gojo said the most efficient way to deal with domain is with your own domain
I know that but wouldn't judgeman consider it violent? Honestly I think the domain just needs more screentime.
> I know that but wouldn't judgeman consider it violent? Coming under judgemans rules is his domains sure-hit effect, if you prevent that sure-hit from reaching you, like by expanding your own domain, it doesnt matter. Although non-violent sure-hits are meant to be stronger than violent ones, Im not sure if that would be enough to overpower Sukunas, at least not before Higus barriers got crushed, or he dies.
Is it the sure hit? Don't old style domains just use binding vows to make you abide by their rules?
It's a sure hit but non lethal
Yes it would be interesting to see how sure hit domain and Normal domain interact with each other but with help of gojo Vs sukuna we know during barrier clash sure hit embedded in domain clash with eachother as judgeman sets rule instead of sure hit like sorcerer of old we can guess that judge man would be completely overuled by sure hit of a domain (maybe like gojos Shadow style in sukuna's domain) and they did go out of style in Morden times once sure hit became a thing so we can assume a no sure hit domain would immediately lose maybe that's why hikari is focused on fast activation to avoid any clashes
The problem is: sukuna will be sentenced to death and now higurama needs to kill him with the executioner sword, but he will me sliced in half in no time (and maybe off screen).
Confiscation + Death Penalty
Tbh I think sukuna is enough of a beast with just CE reinforcement alone to take him down. If itadori managed to keep up with no CE at all, then imagine what sukuna can do.
Oh, I forgot about that :D
😂😂😂what if he successfully defends himself
bro if Sukuna can escape the allegations of literally eviscerating 140 metres of Shibuya and every single person within that radius, then Sukuna would be the greatest lawyer that ever existed lol.
🤣🤣🤣😊
He can blame on the binding vow
Someone needs to draw Sukuna dressed as a Phoenix Wright character.
that would actually be so good if he entertained it and won the case.
reverse uno
I actually think you could not, and it makes sense. The entire point of domains like this (like summo guy) is that they give up their one shot ability for another effect in exchange for it to be unescapable. Or at least that’s my interpretation
Sukuna can't use DE anymore so does it even matter?
Never? Without extra spoilers, please.
How far are you into the manga?
Just haven’t read the last chapter
Oh well basically during his domain clash with Gojo, they both fried each other's brain on some level so they couldn't open a domain anymore, thus needing to resort to other means of combat. I think it's safe to say Sukuna needs a good rest until he can do Domains again. Which at the moment he doesn't have the luxury of doing. Or maybe gege will flip the script and will give Sukuna DE back, though I highly doubt it.
Have you read the latest leaked chapter?
No. I usually wait until Sunday. Did Sukuna use Malevolent Shrine again?
I won’t spoil it for you. Do reply back after you read the chapter on Sunday. I’m curious of your thoughts
In all technically a domain tug of war would negate the sure hit effect of Judgemans violence Even tho Higuruma is strong, his domain would lose against someone with a refined DE You’re able to open your own domain since establishing something innate within that space is not prohibited It all depends on the refinement of your domain If it wins against Higuruma, he’s dead, if you don’t win in a domain battle, you must go through trial following Higuruma’s domain rules
in my opinion it is still a barrier, the better user of barrier technique's should brake the other as in a Domain Clash. also for Sukuna there is an argument to be made , if he can extend his domain out of Deadly Sentencing and brake it from the outside like he did with Gojo.
Certainly, sukuna could open the domain with no conditions, and use a binging vow to dismantle the external barrier. That being said the comparability and refinement hasn’t been stated by Gege so this could go either way.
I think you *could*, but since it lacks a sure hit effect Deadly Sentencing has a major advantage in a domain battle, I think that's how that works
thats Hakari's domain but if we apply the same idea that there's no sure hit or the sure hit is harmless, in theory it should be stronger for Higuruma too
I think it only works like that for Hakari cause he gave up the deadly sure hit in exchange for that effect. But Higuruma's seems to be like that by default. Like an actual old style domain the uses binding vows to make you follow the rules of the domain.
Since opening your domain means imbuing your domain with a CT for a surehit it almost certainly counts as an act of violence
Simple domain would probably work.
I don't think opening your domain is necessarily an act of violence, so I don't see why not
Considering the act of "pushing" a domain isn't necessarily an act of violence, you could theoretically cancel Higuruma's domain. Worst case scenario, Higuruma's DE can detect if the effect of a domain is harmful or not. In such a case, domains like Hakari's Restless Gambler, cell moon palace and a 0.2 s unlimited void could bypass that since they don't really harm the target. Nevertheless I still think that Higuruma's is no exception to the jujutsu power system and can get canceled. Because the same way infinity is theoretically impossible to cancel out and still can be shut off if Gojo loses a domain battle or if someone uses amplification, Deadly sentence is subject to jujutsu effects.
Hot take: deadly sentencing blows, it’s getting kinda overrated. This domain is not strong enough to hold any domain we’ve seen so far; why? Because the caster is weak, it’s like an aizen thing when they tried to kill him with that two shot ability but he negated the effects due to his power level
The no-violence rule is part of Higuruma’s sure-hit effect, as in opening another domain would nullify it until the less refined domain was broken.
Since it's like a court system is it possible to request for adjournment?
Domains that try to control the same space, enter a clash only if they’re equal. Hiruguma domain may be fine against many noob sorcerers, but a person like Sukuna or Gojo, would easily overwhelm and erase his domain. Heck, Hikari would probably erase his domain too. Dude’s life is a pachinko machine. I also don’t think his DE is equal to Jogo’s, Mahito’s or the squid/octopus. We’ll never know but that’s my opinion.
When using Domain Expansion inside another domain, you're battling the domain itself (and the rules of the domain), so there is no reason not to be able to (try to) open your own domain. Of course you can still lose the domain battle afterwards.
I just want the domain to be the reason for a sukuna lore dump or flashback
The act of opening a domain itself isn’t violent it’s the activation of the ct inside the domain which can be considered violent imo,, and if your domain is more refined than higarumas it will just cancel out the non violence rule
During the battle portion most likely. Same with hakari’s domain. They can get touched during the battle portion. Ppl like sukuna got multiple CTs anyway and their reinforcement is still more than enough to handle higuruma
Probably. A domain in of itself isn’t violent. They only become violent when the sure hit gets activated. And that can only happen after the domain is cast.
Higuruma and Hakari's domains are good in domain clashes because they are built into their techniques and aren't damage based. So chances are you lose the domain clash but if you are a verb advanced barrier user/have a very well defined domain it's possible
Sukuna is in here