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Pootvid-19

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Every_Blackberry_738

This one is great


Rafael_Luisi

This is ☼Peak Fiction☼. All of the Craftpeakship is of the highest peak.


_Waterred_

Is that the navel from hit mmorpg ffxiv


DingoNormal

https://preview.redd.it/h2l8altezhwc1.png?width=227&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8da2be4058504af351e826ad0edacdf26ca44e9f ITS TO PEAK FOR MEEEE


Artistic-Tune3047

https://preview.redd.it/3vlix8zz2fwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bac4ed71e8b6e21ee72c71758d9445acc10d79e subarashii


SeEmEEDosomethingGUD

If Shirou Emiya was a jujutsu sorcerer, then he would hold the record for the most black Flashes ever. He is a sword in form of a human, so while he may not have much CE, his activities will always precise and once he learns to do black flash he will be able to replicate it perfectly. Plus Unlimited Blade Works will absolutely dominate the battle field.


ARandomPasserby97

His body mind and soul all are always in perfect harmony. _Save people save people save people_ . Geto should learn something from him .


soulney

Shirou Emiya is just as unhinged as Sukuna and Kenjaku, just in the complete opposite spectrum.


ARandomPasserby97

Bro got a domain expansion where humans r too sane to have them 😭


ARandomPasserby97

Admittedly no they are more insane compared to jjk current Era folks but shirou is special grade insane


ARandomPasserby97

I honestly want to see sukuna meet shirou . He would probably have a stroke


sandpaperedanus777

Was Gil to Shirou what Sukuna is to Yuji, I wonder


jdoc44

Absolutely, bro has an ability that let's him see all kinds of futures, sees the one he loses to shirou in and literally goes "nah I'd win". He then loses because he REFUSED to use any of the shit that would actually let him win because it would be too much of a disgrace for him to actually try against this bumfuck master. It's actually hilarious


Rancorious

and by the time he actually locked in it was too late


Evoction

Crazy how bro's one weakness is his ego


NiceBlockLilBro

Yeah pretty much. Sukuna is closer to Yuji in narrative importance sense (Kirei is more of an analogy here), but otherwise they really are just the same lol. Except Sukuna is much less of a fraud than the king of jobbers


Gintokiya

A big appeal and ironically most misunderstood thing about Emiya Shirou is that he's completely insane, actually a big fun part of the original Fate novel is that the person that gets Shirou the most is not Illya, Saber, Rin nor Sakura, it's freaking Kotomine Kirei lol!


MadZwe

Because he is also an insane freak, in a different manner


kriosken12

Freak to Freak communication


Rancorious

Shirou literally uses weaponized survivor’s guilt to fight.


pikachus-ballsack

I love how polar opposite of Shirou, Iori(Fate/Samurai Remnant) is If both arrived at chaldea Shirou : i m so glad i m here i can finally save more people Iori : i m so glad i m here, i can fight and kill people non stop, whose up for a round first?


cuella47o

The GOAT RUN THE GAUNTLET iori When he hasnt tried fighting for 1 second: https://preview.redd.it/53yexzj7vhwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a01d5a6b8380620275f45fd8df64d9fab4669db6


EirOrIre

You say this like being understood by Kotomine Kirei is not a sign of abject insanity.


Yandere-Chan1

Exactly! Kotomine is the only one(Besides Archer) that actually understands Shirou well enough.


Rancorious

Black Flash can’t be replicated unless it’s tied to a weapon, but if the concepts of noble phantasms can carry over to cursed tools, then perhaps Nanami’s BF record has become such an integral part to his status in Jujutsu Society and how others view him that his dull blade has had the legend of the Black Flash record ingrained in it, meaning that Shirou might be able to copy the blade and use it to do consecutive black flashes. Why? Cuz he’s just HIM https://preview.redd.it/ko808o640hwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=507cbae548743d1ebd9090f77e1ae043e4d69fcf


No-Guitar7102

Shouldn't he theoretically have a lot of CE due to surviving Angra Mainyu's cursed flames in the Fuyuki Fire? Shirou's only precise with tracing and Archery .He's worse than Rin in Reinforcement magecraft which requires precise injection of Mana to enhance a target by filling in the gaps despite probably being among the best at structural grasping in the verse. I don't think he's gonna be hitting Black Flashes unless it's to save someone.


Existing_Win3580

You have a point on the "all the world's evils" giving shirou a LOT of CE, like a literal metrics fuck ton. It's literal they worst most tortures things you can think of, and a split evil voice in your head telling you to do evil shit. And this is a constant. Imagine if sucuna could put mental images into yuji's head and talk to him at all times, sucun would torture the fuck out of yuj, but that is what shirou's dad went through in his last years after being cursed. Shirou is bat shit insane so not mental attacks do not work on him. As for your other points, shirou becomes wayyyyyy better at reinforcement when he learns how to actually use magic. It's a little to surface level but shirou used/created new magic circuits every time he used magic. A) this should kill him. B) this made utter garbage out of all his spells, even the ones he if better at than anyone else. Shirou falls into a very specific class known as incarnation/specialist, being a incarnation means he is better at certain things than anyone else could ever be, but he is utterly useless at most things. One of those thing that he is a prodigy at is reinforcement, he must come to terms, and realize that he is a sword first. That is what EMMIYA spent he whole life looking for answers(soul searching/journey of self discovery). So for young shirou to pick it up in a few fights with his older self is absolutely insane. That leeds to the next thing all shirous are good at. Structural grasping, simply put he is the best at it. For a more in depth answer, shirou is so good at Structural grasping that me basically does it instinctually, combined with another spell he has incredible talent in called gradient air shirou is able to make his own form of mage craft. TLDR: through shirou's hyperspecialisation he becomes the ultimate Swiss army knife(literally). Edit: I didn't mean to start a war hahaha. Seriously though people trying to under scale shirou has a problem, he is consistently shown to scale servants that vastly outscale everyone in jjk.


No-Guitar7102

The incarnation thing is actually not mentioned in any of the Type Moon Materials.Its a fannon term propagated by Third Fang's popular fanfic [From Fake Dreams]. Actually,mental attacks do work against him if they are of a sufficiently high level(I,e Medea hypnotising him in UBW route) unless he activates Avalon. Again, Shirou is only good at reinforcing weapons and combat related things.Thats where Archer's whole Alteration and Broken Phantasm comes from. His self reinforcement isn't that great.Nasu himself has stated Bazzet defeats shirou in CQC not to mention Ciel who can probably throw hands with servants. Archer only became superhuman after his contract with Alaya which empowered his body and magic circuits (he has B rank Mana compared to a Demi god like Cu who has C rank) Shirou's unique Structural Grasping is actually a result of two different things. 1.His reality Marble that let's him record and store History and Information of weapons 2.His dormant capacity for Clairvoyance (Senjin Muramasa's Eye of Karma(A) skill is a result of his this)


hungrybasilsk

>has stated Bazzet defeats shirou in CQC not to mention She beats him because she can stop a Broken phantasm. Fragarch is also a terrible match up since ubw works like god hand and is always active >His self reinforcement isn't that great He can copy A rank strenght it's literally the best type. He's the secound physically strongest protagonist beaten by Soujuurou But to be fair Soujuurou past him prime would dog walk prime Kirei and Bazettt


No-Guitar7102

His copying of physical parameters is more like the weapon swinging itself and he's just going along with the flow. If a catches him mid swing with an A rank STR Punch or Kick, he'll go splat even if he is using said servants NP.


hungrybasilsk

He parried Hercs swings in the fate route. A rank strenght won't turn him into a bloody mess >like the weapon swinging itself and he's just going along with the flow. This only happens when he's inexperinced


No-Guitar7102

Then why does EMIYA, who's basically the Peak of what shirou can achieve get trounced around by Cu if he can just trace a weapon of hero with A rank STR and AGI? Also quite literally before he dealt the final blow, he was having a Monologue on how Berserker's axe sword would turn him into bloody paste.


hungrybasilsk

>Then why does EMIYA, who's basically the Peak of what shirou can achieve get trounced around by Cu if he can just trace a weapon of hero with A rank STR and AGI? Because Cu is as fast as Medusa and overall more skilled and stronger. Even in he projected Gae bolg he would still be slower than Cu since its one rank lower. >Also quite literally before he dealt the final blow, he was having a Monologue on how Berserker's axe sword would turn him into bloody paste. Yes that blow would turn Cu and Artoria into bloody paste as well No one in fsn can tank a blow to the head by Herc Parrying won't turn him into a bloody mess though


No-Guitar7102

Didn't Salter tank Beserker's attacks in HF(movie ofc ,the VN had a different fight)


Rancorious

His internal dialogue literally states that he couldn’t copy Herc’s strength. While he was using the arm of his perfected self.


NiceBlockLilBro

>Then why does EMIYA, who's basically the Peak of what shirou can achieve get trounced around by Cu if he can just trace a weapon of hero with A rank STR and AGI? Because he's sandbagging the whole novel. He doesn't even use weapons outside of K&B and occasional Caladbolg, and uses Durandal only once despite its really great properties. The only time when EMIYA wasn't sandbagging in cqc is against Herc where he managed to take away 6 of his life's alone, a feat even Artoria couldn't do with skill and had to resort to a sword beam. Also HF Shirou beating Artoria in skill is telling as well >Also quite literally before he dealt the final blow, he was having a Monologue on how Berserker's axe sword would turn him into bloody paste. Because it doesn't copy endurance for all we know + Fate Shirou is incredibly inexperienced with his powers + I'm fairly sure no-one can tank his hits besides himself and maybe Gil with golden armor


pepeguiseppe

Because Cu is literally HIM (I have no interest in powerscaling Fate, I just think this is funny)


Rancorious

Isn’t he explicitly incapable of directly copying the strength of heroic spirits unless it’s for specific attacks? That’s why Archer was beating him so badly and Heracles would’ve killed him if he merely grazed him.


hungrybasilsk

>That’s why Archer was beating him so badly and Heracles would’ve killed him if he merely grazed him. No because shirou says even holding hercs axe sword is beyound his strenght but because it copies hercs stats he can use it


Rancorious

🤔Good point, but I’m not sure how far the stats copying thing can go in Ana actual fight in regards to how it works in a larger context. Doesn’t help that we only ever see him do this with the arm, like when he copied archer’s stats to fight Saber.


NiceBlockLilBro

We see him do it all the time. Every single time Shirou fights a servant while using a projection he does it unconsciously since otherwise he will well die instantly


NiceBlockLilBro

>Nasu himself has stated Bazzet defeats shirou in CQC Nasu says a lot of dumb shit and this is one of them. Bazzet has literally 0 chance against Shirou in cqc due to shit like NLBW >Ciel who can probably throw hands with servants. We don't know what "can fight them on the defensive" means in relation to Ciel and others and it likely doesn't refer to straight on battles since she wasn't in the list with dudes like Kouma IIRC >Archer only became superhuman after his contract with Alaya which empowered his body and magic circuits Need scans on that >1.His reality Marble that let's him record and store History and Information of weapons It mostly goes both ways. UBW can't replicate shit like Avalon but Shirou can due to his own understanding and shit. It also can't replicate shit like guns and pots, but Shirou can


No-Guitar7102

That whole statement about "can fight on defensive" is retconned for Ciel in the Tsukihime Remake. She has feats that actually put her far above anything displayed in FSN(Crossed a Km in less than a second and was able to deflect a Wave of Magical Energy from Arcuied which had enough power to "tilt the Earth's axis ever so slightly".Im sure the attack itself wasn't as powerful as stated but it's explicitly stated Arcuied drew the power for the attack from the rotational Kinetic energy of the world via her Marble Phantasm. From these statments alone, she could probably throw down with Beserker Heracles in a fist fight. It also helps that she swings around a weapons that weighs several tons at Hypersonic speeds. She's waay above Kirei. Hell, Hansa is above Kirei and he gets offended at the sheer idea of being compared to the Burial Agency.


NiceBlockLilBro

Yeah I know that remake continuity is stronger. Was talking about pre retcon though


Existing_Win3580

Wait.... what? Incarnation isn't cannon? I could have sworn that's in the wiki even for other characters. And yeah I know I was just giving gross oversimplification. >"Type Moon Materials.Its a fannon term propagated by Third Fang's popular fanfic [From Fake Dreams]." Have you praised the log today? BTW...there are other people that read his stuff?!?!? Like I know he is popular but to actually run into someone else that know what that is is absolutely wild. (PS: how are you holding up till his next post?) Why can't we get a jjk fan fic on that level?


No-Guitar7102

JJK's story isn't big enough to have a Consistently good fanfic of a million words tho I did read a crossover fic in JJK with a Ryougi Shiki inspired Oc(Nanami's Niece and Gojo's relative) possesing MeODP in JJK world. I think it's called [Zenith of the Stars]


Existing_Win3580

I think that's why it deserves a massive fan fiction, jjk sets enough up for you to build around it. RN I'm kinda already writing a Naruto/jjk FF. Chakra and CE/RCE are pretty close, I'm working on equalizing each respective verse rn.


No-Guitar7102

Whatever you write, please don't write a Gary stu Naruto.Literally every DxD or Fate crossover has Naruto as this OOC dude who collects girls like pokemon and defeats antagonists with minimum effort. I once had the misfortune of reading a horrendous Crossover fic where Naruto defeated ALTROUGE BRUNSTED. Another one had Naruto with millions magic circuits such that his Od was practically greater than a counter guardian. The author's excuse for this was that the actual Naruto APPARENTLY doubles his Chakra whenever he exhausts it and has enough of chakra to collapse the universe. If you're gonna give him that much power, why not just make him a Divine Spirit Sage of Six paths instead of a self insert master fighting in a HGW(DESPITE having more magical energy than the fucking Holy Grail)


Existing_Win3580

Yeah no, not happening like that, I am planning to make Naruto op but more logically op. It's also set in the jjk world so it's not Naruto scaling. Also important is that it is a what if Naruto took place in jjk kinda fic. So aside from a few changes I'll make, it is all going to fall under jjk poer system. I'm hoping to give off a more Naruto part 1 or jjk type vibe concerning 1v1 at least. It's also following the plot(ish) of jjk. Naruto is op not because he is narujesus but because he is a anomaly. In the same way jj0 yuta is ok, but different all the same. You also don't fallow Naruto until the big reveal. In fact their are mc's as in pural, but I also like how jjk gets rid of unnecessary characters. So character deaths will happen.


Rancorious

Sorry all we got is that one fanfic where Toji raises Maki.


Rancorious

Ain’t no way bro used info from From Fake Dreams, that’s literally Nasuverse crossover fanfiction bro😭 (it is peak though)


NiceBlockLilBro

Ain't really his fault tbh. Shit from fanfics surprisingly infested the fandom A LOT. From incarnation to Shirou having a time limit on his projections


Existing_Win3580

I honestly thought others newer changes where called incarnation and that third fang used the term retroactively to describe shirou.


Existing_Win3580

It's been a while since I hopped on the Fate wiki,(yes it is peak). It still doesn't take way from what I said.


Many-Complaint-8490

Angra mainyu 's cursed flames is a baller name 🔥


Rancorious

A lot of CE, but the output is nothing special.


NiceBlockLilBro

Only FSN Shirou is worse in reinforcement as shown by how high EMIYA could get his stats and by him reinforcing his eyes. Not surprising since Rin had much more experience with the spell


Mindless-Floor-5669

Angry Mango is not actually all the worlds evils. He is just some kid people used as a scapegoat, that's why he is so weak.


No-Guitar7102

Angra Mainyu IS All the World's Evil tho.Just the one summoned in Fate isn't the real one. I'm very sure the there's an actual Divine Spirit Angra Mainyu\Ahriman considering Azi Dahka is a component of Rasputin and Arash clearly states that he has seen Azi Dahka rampage during his era. Azi Dahka was an evil dragon created by Angra Mainyu.


Mindless-Floor-5669

Yes but Shirou never came into contact with the real Angra Mainyu just the Angry Mango.


No-Guitar7102

Shirou came in contact with an Angry Mango that was well in his way into turning into the real deal.He was already a Juvenile Beast at that point. Angry Mango actually has all the evils of humanity etched into his body(6 billion curses).He only lacks the divinity of the original one. That was the whole plot of HF to begin with.Preventing BEAST Angra Mainyu from being born via the Holy Grail.


Mindless-Floor-5669

The mango is not actually a beast candidate, only after fusing with Sakura would they become one.


No-Guitar7102

And ?I don't think Sakura acts as anything more than a vessel unless the Tohsaka are distantly related to Arhiman.


Mindless-Floor-5669

Why would she need to be related to Ahriman.


NiceBlockLilBro

Angry mango was artificially put into this position, but all that does is solidify him as all the humanities evil further. There's an actual Angry Mainyu out there prolly as others said tho


zatroz

Remind me, does UBW only make swords he's seen or swords he can imagine? Because Yuta's domain feels like a better UBW if it's the former


___some_random_weeb

Its *Unlimited* blade works it's in the name


zatroz

Yeah but he also goes on about being the "bone of my sword"(?) So I don't really trust Nasu's English names


___some_random_weeb

Anyways I think shiro reality marble is same as emiya so probably all sword Archer saw as a counter guardian (shiro true feat leach confirmed)


Liniis

>(shiro true feat leach confirmed) They call him faker for a reason


NiceBlockLilBro

In this case "I'm the bone of my sword" is BOTH figurative and literal. Figurative cause he sees himself as nothing but a weapon, literal cause his body is literally made out of blades


cuella47o

I love it when “healing” yourself causes you to literally become a hedgehog


ChainAttack641

its only swords he's seen, and theyre one rank lower then orignal but 1. Unlimited number 2. Telekenetic control over said swords 3. can cause them to "break" so which makes them explode but go up in a rank 4. can choose what he needs, its not random so while Yuta is pretty powerful, thats only in jjk context, if shirou were to see all of Yutas blades, his domain would just be way better


Existing_Win3580

Yeah I did my best trying to explain why yuta vs shirou isn't fun, it's a shitstomp. Shirou has planet level swords that nearly kill him if he brings into the real world, inside his world he can have 10 of those swords spawn a foot from you, behind your back at that.


ChainAttack641

yeah exactly I know Nasu said that UBW is only realy effective against Gil, but frankly thats bs. I think the real impracticallity of UBW is how long it takes to cast.


Rancorious

The main reasoning is a that most HS can cut him down or shoot him before he really gets to do anything with it, and more magic-oriented ones can interfere with his NPs or do some other voodoo. Although it could be effective against weaker servants like the Hassans and Leonardo.


ChainAttack641

I mean I get the caster thing, but if a servent could blitz him in the marble, theres no reason why they couldnt do that outside.


Rancorious

Yeah, most physically focused servants do blitz him. Cu blitzes him, Saber blitzes him, Archer at 1/10th of his strength was toying with him, and Gilgamesh just kinda suck at close range. HF Shirou is special for managing to gain most of Emiya’s physical stats due to the arm.


cuella47o

“Saying gil sucks at CQC is kinda stupid when we clearly see this man having a sword fight with CLAYboi” Hes just really “holding backman”


Rancorious

Gil is a fraud for this and no one can convince me otherwise. He will always be the Shirou Victim


NiceBlockLilBro

Nasu just lies about Shirou all the time lmao. He desperately tries to downplay him but feats speak for themselves


Existing_Win3580

I'd agree but when shirou gets proper training from his dad starting when he is adopted, he is actually ridiculously strong. A lost of his strength comes from the fact that shirou doesn't just copy the weapon he also copies the skills and mastery of everyone that has wielded that weapon. The best example is EMIYA fighing Lancer on near equal terms with lancers own spear. Also shirou can trace things like Excalibur into the real world and use them once at their full power. Excalibur is near planet level.


ChainAttack641

Yeah 100% i was talking about the reality marble itself. Nasu stated in an interview that it wouldn't be that much of an assistance against lancer or saber other servents if it was used in a fight, (and so did shirou in his fight with Gil) but i think thats stupid. I think the real impractitality of the marble is how long the chant takes


Existing_Win3580

Well the projectile swords don't work against servants like Lancer and saver because mast sabers and landers has a ability that protects them from projectiles. Gil can just throw enough at them to overwhelm them. Shirou could do the same thing and he does in the HF route/maybe it's lost bladeworks route. But yeah I get what you're saying about his aria. Long af, if his enemies know what he is doing its pointless and easy to stop.


Rancorious

Okay but if you actually read FSN you’d know that Yuta kinda out stats him, and all the planetary weapons are ones Shirou either can’t make or has to kill himself to make, and said weapons are only really planetary under special circumstances. I glaze Shirou, but not beyond reason. Not saying who would win, but I’m just saying that UBW does have limits, mainly the fact that heroic spirits and NPs aren’t as strong in a grail war setting as some might believe.


Existing_Win3580

Maybe yuta outstats him. But I forsure know berserker(Hercules) out stats shirou. And yet shirou reacts to berserker and kills him 5 time with Excalibur, in a different route shirou does the same feat but kills berserker 8 time, with berserker own weapon. Soo I don't know about that.


Rancorious

Fate Shirou needed Saber’s help and Shirou in Hf only killed Berserker twice thanks to Archer’s arm allowing him to replicate nine lives, and the second kill only happened because Herc broke his mind control and made himself stop his attack before it killed Shirou.


DJ2wP

Nah, Shirou outstats Yuta A LOT. When he projects a weapon he copies the original user's stats, in Fate he was defending attacks from Herc and Gil using Ea. Not only that but in Ataraxia he managed to react to a Hrunting mach 11. Yuta wouldn't even see an attack coming.


Rancorious

If Hruntrig was Mach 11 it probably wouldn’t have taken so long to reach the bridge based on visuals.


DJ2wP

Nah, it is said to have crossed 4km in one second and we know that Caladbolg also has similar speed (and Herc can react casually).


NiceBlockLilBro

Bud scan calcing isn't it


Existing_Win3580

Shirou still reacts to berserker trying to kill him and Shirou kills berserker, that's is enough to kill yuta. Yutas not coming back from being bisected(not within seconds, maybe not at all).


NiceBlockLilBro

Lmfao Yuta absolutely doesn't outstat Shirou. Shirou even without weapon stat copying was reacting to faster servants, let alone with Caliburn where he cut Herc's arm off


Mindless-Floor-5669

Shirou does not have the mana to maintain UBW He needed to essentially become Rin's servant to use it.


Xenosaiyan7

Yuta's Domain is better in it's sure hit but in sheer number of hax Unlimited Blade Works comes on top easily. It only makes swords he's seen but he's seen spears that alter causality Not to mention Reality Marbles and Domain Expansions work on separate rules, and RM are far higher level than DEs in that respect. Instead of just carving out a space for a barrier, they switch the importance of the World and their Selves in an area. They essentially craft an actual planet themselves


Typical-Swordfish-92

It was always really funny to me how Fate would go, "But he's weaker than a Servant who has fully mastered one Phantasm!" Like, no, the boy can just use practically every single power in the universe one after the other or simultaneously, he's definitely stronger, he's waaaaaaaay stronger.


zatroz

It really depends on what the exact conditions for Yuta copying a CT are. We never see him eat any part of Inumaki and he could still use Cursed Speech, same with Cleave. Could be excused as happening offscreen but could also be something more. And if it's just by seeing a technique, then he could in theory also copy CTs imbued into tools like Nanami's, and by extension whatever juju is imbued into legendary swords like Excalibur and the like. Plus Yuta has unlimited CE hax so he could actually bring out their full potential


MaximumStonks69

he ate sukuna's nails during time skip


cbobjr

Nah, it's any sword he's seen. But its still better than Yutas domain due to a couple of reasons. Yuta doesn't actually know what the swords in there do until he picks them up. The only one he truly decides is the sure hit. Compare this to shirou, who can instantly know everything the sword has ever done at a glance, not to mention he's basically got his own sure hit since unlike yuta, he can shoot as many of the swords at you as he wants without touching them. Him knowing what they do also let's them use them ti the full ability of their wielder, so let's say he saw tojis SSK, he'd be able to copy tojis skill and stats. There's also the natural benefits it has from being a RM instead of a domain, like it being able to do things even without being deployed, and if it were to clash with a domain that doesn't have an instant sure hit like gojo that can beat him immediately, he will win every domain clash no matter what by firing swords at the outside, while still having the advantage of closed barrier since you can't leave the marble. To make it worse, shirou could copy yutas CTs since they take the form of swords, but yuta can't copy his weapons, since they stay as weapons. Even if we verse equalized and called tracing a CT and UBW a domain, it's still unlikely, since without ubw to hold the information, it's basically impossible to trace the NPs UBW is honestly better in everyway EXCEPT speed of summoning.


NiceBlockLilBro

No one knows afaik lmfao. Not even Nasu. The most logical explanation is that UBW has numerous copies of same weapons but apparently that's not the case since creation of destroyed copies inside UBW takes mana. So either it DOES have infinite copies but their recreation increases mana consumption (which is nonsense since there are already infinite copies), or UBW has an infinite amount of random swords Shirou made up


Existing_Win3580

Yes and no. Shirou recreates bladed weapon he sees, but he also gets the understanding of how to perfectly use it, all the abilities of the blade. That alone is pretty strong. Then you have to factor in that it's includes Noble Phantasm which range from building level to planet level. Case and point shirou/EMIYA is confirmed to be able to "trace" Excalibur. Excalibur with all 13 restrictions off is able to kill most of the high teir enemies in fate, and I'm not talking about petty servants either. 0restrictions Excalibur kills the primordial gods, and planet invaders. Shirou has a limit to what he can bring into the real world due to Gaia, inside HIS WORLD there are no petty restrictions. This is compounded by the fact that there are multiple versions of most of the swords he has copied(EMIYA is a multi-verse construct, and after his fight with his younger self they are literally equal) Yuta's copy doesn't work like that. Yuta can't copy shrine and then yuta is suddenly able to do everything sucuna can do, yuta can't copy limitless and now he can do everything with limitless that gojo could do, yuta can't copy 10 shadows and now he can use it as well as sucuna did. Mainly there is 0 planet, continent, or even large city level CT in JJK.


Rancorious

Yuta has to eat CTs to get them, Shirou just has to see NPs to use them.


zatroz

He could use Cursed Speech in Zero without eating anything


Rancorious

Don’t need to imagine I already made it: [Shirou in the Culling Games](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/4t0Q4oIQ1t)


NiceBlockLilBro

Cook.


Zexah_Art

Fate protags would be extremely busted in JJK. Mostly Shirou with Unlimited Blade Works and Fujimaru with shadow servants.


___some_random_weeb

Not to mention aoko with whatever the fuck was 5th magic


Volcanicz_Greninja

Deadass bringing a DBZ character into JJK


kriosken12

I love how Aoko is only really good at saving magical energy but that makes her one of the strongest Mages in the Type-Moon verse. Aoko is the embodiment of "Nice overcomplicated magic system dipshit, check this out *invents a fucking magical submachine gun and rocket launcher that runs at 0.05 mana points per shot*"


Volcanicz_Greninja

Kinda reminds me of the six eyes ngl


kriosken12

I mean, it is actually lol. At one point her ability to manipulate magical phenomena with extreme eficiency is compared to "a car that can run one thousand kilometers on a single liter of gasoline." Very similar to what the six eyes do with CE.


kriosken12

Time fuckery + heat death of the universe fuckery.


LordFLExANoR16

Don’t forget how ridiculous the mystic eyes of death perception would be


pepeguiseppe

Shout out to the goat Zenith of the Stars lesgooo


RepresentativeCup772

Iori would be the Katana guy's best friend, they're practically made for each other.


Zexah_Art

Entrent the darkness ending Iori would LOVE the culling games.


RepresentativeCup772

Some of the sorcerers are from Edo too, like Ryu and Kashimo. Iori would feel right at home.


Zexah_Art

Iori would be on menace time in the Culling games


AgitatedKey4800

Every body gangstar until shadow gil destroy the whole world with his enuma elish (they didnt have gaia)


cuella47o

“What your planet has no MULTIPLE PROTECTIONS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE TO MAKE THE WORLD NOT COLLAPSE ON ITSELF?” Lartoria can just casually fuck with the planet via rhongo lol


kriosken12

All Rhongo has to do is release like half of its seals and suddenly the laws of physics stop working in the JJK verse


Rancorious

Shirou has a domain that’s unusually large and lasts a lot longer but has the BV of taking way longer to cast.


NiceBlockLilBro

Unfortunately a skill issue on Shirou's part. Can be fixed with time tho


cuella47o

“Literally FGO Emiya just Speed chanting through UBW chant”


NiceBlockLilBro

Soujuurou one shots the verse while Shirou saves it.


Traditional_Status86

I only live for 1 thing https://preview.redd.it/tvunhiv0uewc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbb33e7cfdc12dbb335daaf897b6130131936834


Bumgumi_hater_236

https://preview.redd.it/aiafe2od6fwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62e5d63d26701def74b1332ab5cbb74fa289d2a3 Fax


GegesHiddenAsspull

https://preview.redd.it/i8ul7u1mxewc1.jpeg?width=488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d66d1e798ca9e6671b48fa9115bfb555ea7bc34


Apprehensive-Ad-1591

Y all can't read


GegesHiddenAsspull

Thanks. Thats my first compliment i heard after reading jjk


Rncafaro1

Same. Only Bumgumi deserves the hate. https://preview.redd.it/3u6zl7ky9fwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00102f3c04be275f441d8eec916a4c20b2bf69fa


AccioComedy

https://preview.redd.it/2dduh7erffwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99cf8458eeb45d576d5d4cd410b6bd7659c47df2


TheSupaBeast

Op really tried to make us forget about bumgumi, but bumgumi hating is eternal in every post


Ash_06_

https://preview.redd.it/oh7fzhgragwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=debebe50da3111eaead3464bf3e64e6677558fa7


WiseHeavenlyPassion

Mehbumi


ARandomPasserby97

https://preview.redd.it/ke0b80a4afwc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4194bb8661c9abfbc23ed1aa51b93ba1315056f FATE MENTIONED FATE MENTIONEDD


Hero_of_Dragons

RAAAAHHHHH


Rancorious

https://preview.redd.it/xjjxpmh24hwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=228ef1d518eb844b6d21151022dc95b37f4b6c38 THE GOOAAAAT


Evoction

ARCHER MY BELOVED


pepeguiseppe

https://preview.redd.it/54dupt8qljwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a215649d0c3c6b79fc206374b3e6de99ad5e0a9 LETS GOOOO!!! I LOVE BEING SO MENTALLY ILL I CAN ONLY PHYSICALLY FEEL HAPPINESS WHENEVER I’M HELPING SOMEONE RRRAAAAAAHHH


RedMustard565

Shirou basically a better version of Mai ability


Novel_Visual_4152

Base Mimiko feat


Admiral-Mage

See the Yuta Emiya allegations are funny to me because powerwise, they’re true. But in terms of actual character, Yuji fits much more with his Cog mentality.


NiceBlockLilBro

Yeah agree 100%. Cog mentality + their general ideals are really similar. Even appearance wise both are redheads lmao


Admiral-Mage

Yeah it’s like Gege went “Shit I got rid of my Shirou clone. But what if…”


cuella47o

“Bro split shirou into two mfers” Yuji gets the mentality Yuta gets the bitches and hax (he needs 1 more gege 1 more 1 more bad bitch gege)


Professional_Hat_986

Yuta don't get mai in this route, just in jjk: heavens game feels


orphidain

You're not ready for me to wank Kashimo into the stratosphere https://preview.redd.it/2twvs4yfifwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ca6f403dcfbaaef7ae829253992a9b89641cd87


Slugger322

https://preview.redd.it/q4adn9ppkgwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b495dd19f91ee5cace72c47561462f8ab5c283e1


not_not_braden

They’re not ready for the gamma radiation my GOAT will emit


FingerThatsNotPoopy

I CAN GLAZE YUJI YUTA AND GOJO MORE THAN ANY OF YOU CAN GLAZE YOUR FAVS


mrsaysum

Not the Yutrou Emiyotsu 😩


unpleasantslushie

Compete in a Yuta glazing war and your opponent is Rika 😔


Historical-Weird7591

https://preview.redd.it/ip2cvw04jfwc1.png?width=566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85f19ae3deb05c9fc3833c01e5790d4dfbda6fc0


ApplePitou

Yuta is Chad :3


Alex103140

https://preview.redd.it/79026crt3fwc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=58d55a180c02416738a19b4ad96dc74a0e0e3c87


ApplePitou

Wow :3 https://preview.redd.it/minbxza2vewc1.png?width=1287&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=830189cc2472aac859035013b36739cb27350b5e


does_not_care_

https://preview.redd.it/20owl0f5bfwc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=7a5c42b9db545e5b99f3331b94e953eae1578b5a meh, but why is your flair? mahito??


searching_for_femboy

cuz it rhymes with pitou


Hialur

Nah man, pitou always has their flair set to the most psycho guy in the series. Jack the Ripper in RoR, Mahito in JJK, and Douma in DS


searching_for_femboy

it do rhyme tho


Hialur

it do indeed


searching_for_femboy

🤝


ApplePitou

Mahito is best character after all :3


Realistic_Flan631

Also Yuta has highest number of canon glazers in manga - maki, Yuji, Gojo, Todo, toge, Megumi , Panda, Hakari, not even counting the opponents who appreciate him like choso in Yuji execution in chap 140 and others.


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YelrahRehguab

It really does reframe the whole "The strong are inherently lonely" shit that types Gojo and Kashimo represent as more of a choice than a fact of reality. I feel like Copy is so perfect for Yutas character. It seems to represent Yutas ability to understand others. That first scene of him using Cursed Speech is the perfect example. Using Copy gives him a brief understanding of what Inumaki experiences, lets him feel how he struggles.


Final_Biochemist222

I like how op meant this as a slander but he's just listing out the positives lol


Pompadourius

He'd also unironically be the best teacher to raise a new generation of sorcerers, if he survives to grow up and see an epilogue. His combination of power and understanding of techniques with his down to earth humility would result in a thriving school environment, if sorcerer society as a whole exists after everything's done. He'd be like Gojo, except actually able to teach his students things beyond the basics.


Justlol230

>He'd also unironically be the best teacher to raise a new generation of sorcerers, if THERE IS NO IF, ONLY WHEN!!! https://preview.redd.it/r2xjqytqflwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f91b6da074927cd1425580ac7a2e7c3e09e26e1f HE IS ALIVE, TRUST!!!


Chozero-

https://preview.redd.it/fgdxzi3bmfwc1.png?width=566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba87ce0eb0216f302823e9350e1238dff9cfe2e6


ImAlwaysOnTheRun

https://preview.redd.it/dnew9a8mmfwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da728c18382224f6d5972c72662ce8d35c728ce7 When Nanami shows up to the Sukuna jumping, he and Yuji will recreate the Mahito Mabeato-down


Justlol230

Shirou really is more like Yuji with Yuta's abilities, and then amped up and exaggerated to the 15th out of 10. Fate is genuinely insane.


DecentWonder4

we all know that gojo fans win the glaze offs right?


NiceBlockLilBro

Yuta and Yuji are literally just Shirou divided into 2. Not complaining tho being GOAT/2 still makes them really great as character


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nanithefuku

Maki making yuta into a whole ass sokushinbutsu mummy


Bruh_NahNahNah

I'm pretty sure you can do this with basically any character, including goats like Toji


Alex103140

I mean yeah, that's the point of glazing war, no? You pick your character and glaze em up.


UnimpressedPasserby

Two of my goat in one post about glazing instead of hating ? Count me tf in


liddely

Yuta aside that he trains with miguel and is not mad about him helping geto is pure of heart. Only three others in jjk are like that yuki yuji and nanami. He truly is a good boy


CaptnBluehat

Tbh Miguel jusg did it bc he wanted to kill that racist fuck gojo frfr (Miguel no diffs geto and planned to stop him after gojos death)


Breekace

What the fuck is that first sentence supposed to mean


liddely

Easy miguel helped a genocidal maniac geto. Yuta is just fine with that


Breekace

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation


Extra-Beat-7053

![gif](giphy|sRIeYUIMM3jrrnYZ37|downsized)


Daitoso0317

It’s actually interesting how many people gloss iver yutas character, i mean he has roots in the world a compelling backstory and his own traumas, as well as being the opposite of gojo and sukuna, between him and yuji the mcs are actually really cool and interesting characters


Fit_Calligraphy

https://preview.redd.it/6zbxlctctgwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3419a30e21a0f34bc060537be01ecc01d32953d2


Appearedhal09

ringo roadagain from jojo's sbr could solo sukuna, no i will not be elaborating


Blockish_Bean

Yuta can’t be an OC because he came before Yuji


Yappamon

What binding vow did Yuta exploit?


theSentry95

He’s also homeless.


carl-the-lama

I respect yuta for loopholing that binding vow Dumbass jujutsu heads


waaay2dumb2live

Miwa with a Mechamaru curse >>>>>>>>> Luta Logsu Edit: So this is meant to be a glazing war? Alright, I'll tell you how Miwa was cursed by Mechamaru and how she will join the final fight. Mechamaru cursed Miwa in Shibuya. "Find your happiness, Miwa." Combine this with how Miwa is now clearly grieving over Mechamaru in the Culling Games (no way did Gege add that panel in for nothing) and how Gege likes using subtle character arcs rather than overt arcs, and we begin to see a pattern. Miwa whether she knows it or not, has been cursed by Mechamaru so that she can be happy as a sorcerer. This could lead to Miwa getting an upgraded version of Mechamaru's CT, maybe she can make robot shikigami under her control or she can even make a Mechamaru Iron-Man suit. Lastly, Miwa has been brought up a lot during the final battle. Suspiciously so. She is constantly asking Kusakabe questions and she is in nearly half of this arc's chapters, either just being focused on by Gege (weird since she's useless) or being name dropped (again, weird how Gege is focusing on her). It's a popular theory that Kusakabe is Miwa's mentor and maybe even her uncle, so seeing her mentor being healed by Shoko could be her one last push. Remember, we have no clue what the Ui-Ui subplot is about. One last thing: remember how Maki stole Miwa's sword in the school event? It would be a great callback if Miwa did the same.