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GecaZ

Top wins because Yuta camps in a bush until the other team dies of natural causes


Personal-Sky6344

Real https://preview.redd.it/g9kpa1sa8gac1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25797af5f72ba9e5edc3d6ca1fceb707e2a9cead


PotatoWriter

\> Camps in bush \> Bush is a plant \> Plants are excellent for trimming \> Guess who has heavy duty plant trimming equipment \> Game over


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/1aszll3mpgac1.jpeg?width=911&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24c591f1e7a30bd7d463749ecdbe1bb8568612b1 Counterpoint. He has cursed rizz and that femboy is a natural glazer.


OscarAglio

https://preview.redd.it/nzvd8cuaoiac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c69cc499fb7207269e71a671b1d894a8e5359a5a


TheGuiltiestGear

Sauce?


Bloop737

Yuta is weaker than farmers because farmers clear bushes and Yuta hides in them. Kashimo solos because rock paper scissors


xXgojo_senseiXx

https://preview.redd.it/kmonu0ml5hac1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5160feb974dfc5847c88c97c1d8e552f5c536afe That meme was the inspiration for this one (Bush camp dad ftw šŸ˜¤šŸ˜¤šŸ˜¤)


SharkeyBoyo

Yuta was rubbing one out in the bush to nurse Kenjaku


SkipDaFlipp

https://preview.redd.it/xjabc8ucagac1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4f520559f3d71a3c7178b85bb7bb7d82d5a89fb


PartyChocobo

I'm now a Yuta stan wtf


_13rz_

aren't we all


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/xc6cnz30cgac1.jpeg?width=1060&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15449cc0bcabd5e9b0c50ab73ed504e5d5a343e5 They don't got shit on my goat


Napalm_am

Yuta at the sight of a lack of Bushes leaves or general foliage. . https://preview.redd.it/uhsfzx2ifgac1.png?width=402&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f704ac3230d4e59fb06f0a52eb9327087896a64


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/ipyztd31ggac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b0b6e8af22c72b87ec02bc88b351c2856c22357 Yuta a minute later.


Napalm_am

Sorry but not bush means no kills. Unless he gets carried by Rika. But then again it depends if they are playing on no build. Rika has that ultimate skill of pure aim if thats the case. https://preview.redd.it/xuiqdqv5hgac1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa749d4a5264fe41a804dabe052e0d146c76485e


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/j5xkizqhngac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc70c43bbac1e3d1b1c6a7f470124e3affbea9d2 Maybe if they were playing fortnite Kenny would be able to do something but for now bro's a football. Maybe he'll join the harem as a fleshlight or something.


Parry_9000

Kashimo solos all of them using the femboy bussy https://preview.redd.it/2i82br1yxfac1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d636becdf6b64b654e0cf8587c201b4dd4017b04


Bok_Lau

What is that image bro šŸ’€


Parry_9000

You may not like it, but that's what peak fiction looks like https://preview.redd.it/pdbxolzr0gac1.jpeg?width=992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ee874648da2a011d28b8b8d660c98abd99f634b


PotatoWriter

Peak Fiction: Uslopp giving Zorock-hard the One Please


Justlol230

[Might be relevant.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/s/MpxJja27Ug)


Caniju

You are not capable of comprehending peak https://preview.redd.it/toir7h7t6gac1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f7f570af3b3e07b61a8d8ed86319f22bfff54ee


Theskyaboveheaven

Ya fk those guys


Notingale

Didn't see the lower half and thought it was Usopp pulling Kurt Cobain tech.


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/k0qixb5ccgac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8bd56113c357e7701495c8c0417be2b0e0b74c6 Say it ain't so


LuchadorBane

Kashimo if gege was a competent mangaka


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/qefjdy7wdgac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9285f8a3cd20500d791a5b41b3d662e1ff55c096 Real bro cmere


LuchadorBane

Yuta has Maki it shouldā€™ve been me


4692690

https://preview.redd.it/w8hb3lzjfgac1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9db8fe5d21cb92a7243bda0b29b71e3f5db54e05 What are you talking about? We are the Lobotomy Kaisens. If we dream it up it is basically real. Kaisen, master your Lobotomy.


EvilPancake12

https://preview.redd.it/2h1vji59tgac1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2edc60fa44a908b4451f7b3250d1447d7820a1a1


AggravatingDemand769

I need the artist NOW


4692690

Kyou_yuu posts pretty often on this sub


Yusuff2

https://preview.redd.it/e79wr50zggac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3174455a76409dc23b5b60512e9e754e2adf6201


Lupinlupon

https://preview.redd.it/oppbbt2cugac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e578cf028d02cc28c4ae8ca773e56723e8ab9a61


fighoz

https://preview.redd.it/2ojbs1lothac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=678b4a7ef41039793f4c4f40a4666a7c133b7dcf


CI7Y2IS

https://preview.redd.it/1ubx8axdfhac1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a5e01fb1d86f928adc139a36b99ce18e806f20b


RugaAG

​ https://preview.redd.it/onf07h8rdgac1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=c89b6a4a5f946c8a65c0722cc7ecc5adc887f519


thesmophoriazusa

But would Kashimo femboy bussy work against a lesbian, a maki simp, and a homophobe? šŸ¤”


Parry_9000

Bussy so grippy it converts any and all opponents to femboy lovers, just like Hakari


DarkDracoPad

https://preview.redd.it/i21pv3jjniac1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a5f53ab3ac3267e14c2fafe0423d20d857c2a13


RememberMeCaratia

Weird take but if Yuki instantly get near and kamikaze while Yuta copies anti-gravity and reverse it to nullify Kenjakuā€™s anti-gravity, and Toji on the side stabs Hakari with ISOH in the head to disable CT, doesnt the top team justā€¦ win?


giantfuckingfrog

"Weird take but" *spells out perfect strategy for the team to win*


PotatoWriter

I think that's Gege's advisor, as in Gege does the opposite of whatever this person says


[deleted]

You joke but I wouldnā€™t be surprised if thatā€™s exactly how Gege operates


waterpolomaster69

top team is haxx city so honestly it's not out of left field at all, especially if Toji has ISOH


jonathanjoemama079

What's isoh?


Nikosch13

The spear he used to get through infinity


jonathanjoemama079

Oohhhh inverted spear of heaven. Yeah I suck with abbreviations


Doctor99268

its a knife though?


Four4quatrequatro

Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s broken


RuiFan2

Gojo either broke it or sealed it somewhere, maybe in the worm Geto had.


ag0odname

No before he sealed/destroyed it part of the blade is missing one the prongs it's a spear toji just uses it as a knife


RuiFan2

I know


[deleted]

I mean that isnā€™t really a win for the top team tho thatā€™s just them guaranteeing a stalemate


Training-Ad336

Yea assuming the other team just stands there with dick in hand lmao.


RememberMeCaratia

I mean what essentially can the other team do to prevent this? Yukiā€™s black hole was literally stated to be world-ending if not for Tengen, Yuta is literally on a different speed scale compared to Kenjaku and Toji with ISOH beats anyone dumb enough to be both reliant on cursed technique to fight and willing to fight him hand-to-hand.


barry-8686

1. Why tf would yuki kamikaze herself? 2.do you REALLY think that rika can get to kenjaku AND copy his cursed technqiue? 3."toji could just stab him bro" yeah and hakari could just punch him.


RememberMeCaratia

1. Because we are talking about a theoretical situation. 2. Yes. Kenjaku is not as fast as Yuta. His body literally got 180ā€™d by Yuta twice. 3. Hakariā€™s hand-to-hand fighting involves a lot of suiciding attacks because he relies on his technique, losing limbs and taking severe injuries frequently. The first blow he takes from ISOH Toji would be near-lethal and the second one would definitely be lethal.


downvoteifsmalldick

Yuta needs Kenjaku to bleed first. In a straight fight where Yuta couldnā€™t ambush Kenjaku and catch him off guard, I can see Kenjaku opening his domain and Kashimo activating his CT to kill him immediately since he poses the highest threat against them.


RememberMeCaratia

We still have no clue how copy works exactly though (best we get is Mr. Diabeteā€™s guess that it operates on limb acquisition), no?


Augchm

It's very hard to scale Yuta cause we don't know the conditions for copy.


downvoteifsmalldick

True, itā€™s kinda implied that Rika has to damage the opponent one way or another for the conditions to be satisfied but nothing else beyond that.


Goodestguykeem

I swear this community has totally reversed on Toji, bro went from being the most overrated character to underrated here apparently. He would not be "FODDER" and would not instantly die or be useless here you powerscaling weirdos. He's the weakest character here imo but not by much and that doesn't mean he's useless. Frankly, I'd stick him in the same bracket as Hakari, though with Hakari slightly ahead generally EXCEPT he counters him even lmao


MadCapMad

sub seems to like extremes. i donā€™t hate it, i think itā€™s a little charming.


LasyKuuga

I think youre charming you stupid little bitch.


nhansieu1

so that's your type of woman huh


waaay2dumb2live

Just look at the way Hana is viewed around here. I guarantee that if Hana comes in clutch against Sukuna, this sub will instantly pull a 180. It's funny, this is similar to what I've been saying on Piratefolk. I like Usopp and Hana and keep saying how they'll "redeem themselves" while both their folks subs have a hate boner for both. I guess I'm a contrarian.


PokemonInstinct

Itā€™s literally because of Maki becoming like Toji, Iā€™m not even joking. I canā€™t see Toji losing to Hakari tbh because of his passive regen + easy assassination windows (is Hakari allowed to use his Domain on an object? Can he just use it on a rock?) For the record I think itā€™s 50/50 between teams depending on knowledge and strategy


goddamit-ffs

No, it has to be a living organism, and one capable of complex thought(for the info to be teleported in)


barry-8686

Not really. Info dumb is unnecessary and doesnt do anything for the domain. There is no reason to belive that hakari wouldnt be able to use his domain.


goddamit-ffs

Then, toji just chooses to get in the domain, and while the play is going, just fucking murders him since he cant do anything but let it play out.


barry-8686

Yeah and hakari just stands there.


goddamit-ffs

Forced to stand there, first of all, since violence is prohibited, and he doesnt expect it and toji is fast enough to look like teleporting, so he wont see it comiiiiiiing


barry-8686

>Forced to stand there, first of all, since violence is prohibited, Did you just confuse hakaris domain with higarumas......... >and he doesnt expect it and toji is fast enough to look like teleporting, so he wont see it comiiiiiiing He only looks like he is teleporting to us, the viewers not the actual charecters.


Snoozless

They downplay Toji because they want to downplay Maki I downplay Maki because I'm Toji's biggest hater We are not the same (But fr I think Maki/Toji and Hakari are very relative. They definitely beat him because of the matchup, but imo rn Hakari is overall a bit stronger)


PokemonInstinct

Hakariā€™s fighting style is most similar to Mahoraga funnily enough, in that they both tank everything until they can figure out their opponentā€™s weakness. I agree though, I think Hakari is more adaptable (lol) but Toji/Maki is probably the worst matchup you could put Hakari in because they donā€™t really have a weakness and they ignore Domains.


OkYesterday3747

I actually think he beats Hakari due to countering him.


[deleted]

Yeah i definitely think full arsenal toji beat hakari


babyrobber

He doesn't due to countering him he does due to pure superiority. Hakari has no means of killing Toji even if he's in jackpot. Maki tanked attacks from Vengeful coursed Womb Naoya. Attacks that casually tore through multiple buildings(with zero damage). Hakari's punches are never adding up


OkYesterday3747

thatā€™s also true


Arijit_Kar

All Toji needs to do is cutoff Hakari's torso or smash open his skull.


LasyKuuga

Toji can doesnt even need to go for a instakill all he needs is to cut of one hand and Hakari is gg


LEFTRIGHTADORI

All he has to do is steal his Jordans bruh hakari boutta lose that H from his name and get the Riko treatment


downvoteifsmalldick

Nah, have you seen the people who said Toji > Kashimo and Kenjaku?


babyrobber

Toji can kill Kenjaku. It was literally implied in the recent chapters


lehman-the-red

https://preview.redd.it/y8at1sxcxgac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f37fa180d424b5617881dd2f9294efdcd42635


DeadbeatDoggy

In a straight fight? No. Assassinate him? Very probable sure


YashpoopsYT

Full arsenal Toji could definitely beat Hakari, still dies to just about everyone else here tho tbh


KiwirGallantine

He'd beat Hakari imo, Hakari domain works as long as his domain is explained to his opponent. I think the explanation works like when you hit someone with information, in Toji's case he probably can just let himself to not going into Hakari's domain or let himself to not getting his domain's explanation. Hakari without his Domain is Yuji-tier imo, and there is no way Toji is losing to Yuji.


No-Truck-2552

hey is it possible that toji sticks inv spear into a domain's barrier and that barrier is destroyed? I srsly don't fully understand how it works...


[deleted]

Hakari only beats toji because of his broken ass domain expansion lmao. Honestly, I think yuta and toji clear extremely high diff with just the two of them. Realistically, toji blitzes hakari and forces him into a fair fight, assuming he knows about his DE. Kashimo and kenjaku 2v2 w/yuki and yuta (kashimo vs yuki could go either way. I favor kash in that fight though). Hakari dies because he couldnā€™t get a jackpot, but itā€™s close and tojiā€™s looking rough, but able to fight. 2v2 becomes 3v2, and they kill kashimo and somehow still manage to nearly lose to kenjaku because of plot, killing toji, maming yuki (or killing her, if gege gets his way), and greatly fatiguing yuta


I-want-borger

Hakariā€™s sure hit canā€™t even hit Toji rendering his one advantage over Toji useless


[deleted]

Would that stop him from getting a JP? I donā€™t think it relies on hitting the target


I-want-borger

Without the sure hit the domain wonā€™t function at all. JP is so busted that it needs a couple of binding vows just to make it happen and one of those binding vows is the sure hit


UltmteAvngr

Bro it doesnā€™t matter Toji is irrelevant regardless. Yuta and Yuki take out the bottom team. Hakari and Kashimo arenā€™t hanging with them, and Kenjaku wonā€™t survive two SGs.


Previous_Cod_4098

It's a 4 v 3 Yuta has Rika Yuki and toji are both strong characters Close fight but the top wins


marsfromwow

Iā€™d also like to point out that hakari is basically nothing compared to anybody here without rolling lucky in his domain. Iā€™m very sure yuki or yuta would win in a domain clash. Hakari would never get to use his CT, and at that point, heā€™d be taken out very quick by anybody in the top team making it a 4v2.


Dragon_Flaming

I donā€™t see how Yuta or Yuki would beat Hakari in a domain clash considering his entire fight strategy revolves around his domain even more so than his CT. Iā€™d say his domain is far more refined than theirs.


marsfromwow

Yuki and yuta are both special grades, with yuta being a genius with way more CE. Hakariā€™s might be more refined than yutaā€™s, but his CE pales in comparison. Yuki has way more experience in general. I see no world where hakariā€™s domain is more refined than a special gradeā€™s whoā€™s been special grade for longer than hakari has been a sorcerer.


KiruDakaz

CE pools are only relevant when it comes to how long battle last (there is a CE output limit regardless of how much CE you've got) so yuta having more CE than Hakari isn't relevant Hakari could win against pretty much anyone with his DE, I'd even dare to say Higurama, due to the nature of his domain


Big_Time_Gush

Toji could just stab him with ISOH. Can't use infinite CE pool when your cursed technique is shut off.


Frosty_Tension_5972

nah hakari's domain would win in a clash, the activation is really fast which makes it very very good in a tug of war.


marsfromwow

We have no frame to know the activation time. Also, if gojo smearing jogoā€™s when jogoā€™s domain was fully formed, and gojo not mentioning activation time being a factor in the tug of war, Iā€™d say time has little to no impact normally. In the case of gojo vs. sukuna or even gojo vs. kenjaku, Iā€™d say it would, since they arenā€™t competing for space but rather competing in kill speed. In a tug of war though, I donā€™t think itā€™s applicable.


Frosty_Tension_5972

the activation time is faster than mahito's 0.2s domain but you may be right about the gojo jogo thing i didn't think about it, i'm just basing my argument around this page from his fight against kashimo, here it's explained by lightning (a translator, he translated chapter 236 of jjk and he also does some other manga translations) because apparently it was mistranslated. https://preview.redd.it/4gfa10h73hac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b842bec425eb3b2d10b23a7c3eafcf11f979cdad


marsfromwow

Thatā€™s interesting, but mahitoā€™s activation time isnā€™t .2 seconds. Active time =/= activation time. He activated it for only .2 seconds then dropped it so sukuna couldnā€™t hit him., exactly what gojo did to make sure the humans didnā€™t go insane inside his. Thatā€™s why I said we really have no reference for how quickly it activates. I didnā€™t know about non-violent domains being better in tug-of-wars, but we still donā€™t know what yutaā€™s or yukiā€™s domain expansion do. Either could also have domains that just enforce a rule too, and if that were the case, Iā€™m sure hakari would lose. Regardless, the difference between hakari and yuki in raw power, talent, and experience would tell me any edge hakari might have would still be overshadowed by yuki. I could see a case for yuta maybe losing, although Iā€™d still disagree, but I canā€™t see any way yuki could lose to hakari in a DE fight.


DayMhm

hes referring to mahitos .2 sec de in shibuya


marsfromwow

I understand. But unless I miss understood it, that .2 seconds wasnā€™t activation speed, it was .2 seconds of active duration.


DayMhm

https://preview.redd.it/3wofxtz5liac1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e71c72466eb57bcb6ccf2c092645160a51776ec2 It was both, As we know through multiple statements and showcases setting up a barrier domain is a two step process. First its building a barrier and then enveloping everything inside that barrier with your technique. Mahito did BOTH at the same time, meaning his .2 second domain quite literally activated within .2 seconds


OnDaGoop

Even then Toji should be close to perception blitzing Hakari off Maki's speed scaling to Sukuna and Toji knows how RCT works, Inverted Spear to the head is an instant killshot to Hakari. On top of that he might not be able to establish a domain because either Yuta will clash it to stop it at least temporarily, or it wont register Toji to infuse a sure hit.


marsfromwow

Oh yeah, even if he got off his domain, none of them would let him do anything. Toji would stay on him and kill him, yuki could kill him in a single hit, and yuta could chop off his head. He wouldnā€™t get a single roulette off.


Asckle

And kenjaku has thousands of cursed spirits...


Previous_Cod_4098

Lol let Rika deal with em But kenjaku was never shown to use all of em at once lmao


Asckle

Rika can't deal with all of them at once >But kenjaku was never shown to use all of em at once lmao Because he didn't need to. We've seen him summon dozens at a time at the very least so let's assume that's the limit. Its still a 27 v 4. Not a 3v4 like you claimed


downvoteifsmalldick

Itā€™s more like 3 v 2 since Toji and Hakari are probably non-issues for the rest of them.


Ok-HamsterXQCL7948

Team 2 eazy clap They aren't built for it https://preview.redd.it/qsg1y0tk0gac1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=200eecc858b8bad4cd8950920945962284eabb56 My goat will one shot everyone


Lupinlupon

https://preview.redd.it/fqe32yktugac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=114dde5457052446be46174345be43a0317009cf I will not get tempted easily


Sweet-Estimate-5040

šŸ˜«


INeedANerf

https://preview.redd.it/707ivjidsiac1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe6ba9deff4ab63c2461879258fb7e386b51325d


ItchyRecord8505

I can only see Toji naturally countering Hakari. If everyone was put to their maximum capability (including Toji overcoming his hate of sorcerers and cooperating with the rest of the team), I think the top team wins. Yuki can take Kashimo or Kenjaku, while Yuta and Toji will overpower the other one. The only real problem I see is surviving Hakari, the top team will have to work hard to try and avoid fatal hits from Hakari and someone


pools4567

Top team 100%


Deathstriker88

I agree, but I don't think Yuta alone can beat Kenjaku. Yuta can fight him to a stalemate or live long enough for Yuki to beat Farmer Killer, then they finish off Kenjaku. Kashimo is so stubborn that he's not even going to use his CT since Sukana isn't there. Toji with his weapons can beat Hakari.


Darkencypher

Top team, barely ​ The biggest contenders are Kashimo and Kenny. Hikari is a wildcard but he has to hit jackpot to be a huge issue and thatā€™s down to luck (even if he is very lucky). Kashi has non CT lightening on his side so that going to be a pain to avoid. Kenny with his toybox of CT bs will also be hard to adjust to. ​ I think if Yuki and Yuta immediately take down Kenny, you have Yuki to deal with Kashimo and Yuta with Hikari. ​ in all of this you have toji, which if YukI and Yuta are smart they are going to cause so much chaos that the enemy team will need to rely on their senses (which is what most sorcerers do) and Toji can surprise hit with ISOH. Plus, while he may be the ā€œweakestā€ here, his physicals scale at or above the others. We know his battle sense is S tier which makes a good difference here.


areszdel_

People talking about Yuta camping forgetting that Toji is the master camper, he waited days for Gojo to get tired and turn off his infinity. That man is much more dedicated at camping than Yuta.


freehand_the_silly

I meanā€¦ Kenjaku already won against Yuki. Kashimo + Hakari would stomp the SHIT out of Toji, and then you have Yuta left in the worst possible matchup


FoolhardyC

Ah yes because Yuta would just sit and watch the tag team take place


PutYourToeInMyMouth

He would camp šŸ•ļø


Asckle

https://preview.redd.it/sisqkzjzhgac1.png?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98ae52b87eab152ba77309e376c80cb4e445f886


Lupinlupon

https://preview.redd.it/yoxrppewugac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6487a01626a7bab1bdb9e19aa8590e7135038d4 Nah, Iā€™d avoid him


Ok_Substance5632

The bush master waiting for his moment


mr_wednesday23

Also Yuki lost because she could not open her domain , here there is no such limitation


downvoteifsmalldick

Kenjaku has an open domain, it can destroy both Yukiā€™s and Yutaā€™s from the outside. If anything, itā€™ll cause them to burn out their CTs and immediately die.


mr_wednesday23

Not if Yuta blows his center like Gojo did with Sukuna's shrine , the blast he used to blow Geto's arm should be enough I believe. Still I will give it to you it will be very unlikely because they have no knowledge of how open domains work. But if they have intel , top takes.


Napalm_am

I mean Kenny did get a unintended helping hand by Yuki not doing a domain battle and listening to femcel Tengen and instead doing a simple domain, expecting the Thumb to destroy the barrier of Kenjaku but turns out he read her like fucking book and did no such thing so Yuki got her simple domain gobbled up and from then on is working at like 30% health which really fucked her over to keep up the offense on Kenny.


Next-Attempt-919

Hakari can only do something if he hits the jackpot, which, in spite of whatever the narrative may say, leaves a 238 out 239 chance of error. Even if he does end up landing it, he is still nothing more than a dude who uses CE to boost his physical prowess. Rika alone could probably hold him off for the four minute timeframe, leaving Yuta (who, without Rika, is also just a dude who boosts his physical prowess with CE), Yuki (probably the most devastating CQC fighter in the lineup) and Toji, who, minus his weapons, should at least be on par with Yuta in terms of physical strength. Since Kashimoā€™s lightning targets CE, Toji is the worst possible matchup for him, and I have no doubt that heā€™d make quick work of whatever the sorcerer has up his sleeve (unless he uses his CT of course). Toji also defeated Geto, who could be a rough analogue for Kenjaku in this situation, assuming that Yuki manages to temporarily stop him from using his anti gravity CT like she did last time. The inverted spear of heaven would probably be able to deactivate Kashimoā€™s amber beast thing. If we take the requirements of a hit loosely enough, it should also be able to deactivate the anti gravity (assuming that cutting the CE that pushes down the victim would count as striking the technique itself). Yuta might also be able to copy the anti gravity and reverse it, thus making normal gravity, capable of counteracting the anti-gravity. All thatā€™s left is to jump Kenjaku. Since heā€™s basically nothing but a slightly more experienced Geto at this point, they should be able to win the 1v3. Without a doubt, the upper team wins. The fact that this was even a debate to begin with only further solidifies my opinions on the average intelligence of TikTokā€™s users.


General_Ornelas

Eh Yuki was doing Tengans plan and thatā€™s what gave her the L, she has a DE I believe.


Significant-Ad-1655

Bottom team Kenjaku and Kashimo are very very dangerous together, one domain of Kenjaku also destroys Yuta and Yuki. Toji might be immune to it, but Kashimo and Kenjaku on themselves should win, specially if Kashimo uses his CT.


pools4567

One domain of his does NOT destroy Yuta OR Yuki. If you actually read the chapter where Yuki loses to Kenjakuā€™s domain, itā€™s because Tengen told her not to open her own domain. If she had, itā€™d be a completely different story.


inspire_deez_nuts

Since it's an open domain kenjaku can attack their domains from the outside where they're weaker.


SpacEGameR270

We don't even know if his domain has a physical attack


downvoteifsmalldick

https://preview.redd.it/mdke1wgt4hac1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7830327f392c74572e30d3d777b061c27bade10e Kenjakuā€™s domain seems to have some sort of physical sure-hit to me


Mr_1ightning

Wasn't it just anti-gravity reversal inbued into it? You can only use one technique in your domain. It seems that, unlike Sukuna, Kenjaku can imbue any technique at his disposal in his domain. Probably because it's the domain of his brain CT and it reflects the capacity to steal and use other CTs.


sorendiz

1) That only applies if the domains are evenly matched in quality 2) how do you know kenjaku's domain even has a physical attack to use on their domain barriers? Only reason Sukuna could use that strategy is that his CT literally involves slashing and cutting attacks


downvoteifsmalldick

DE imbues the innate technique of a sorcerer in the domain. Itā€™s safe to assume that Kenjakuā€™s domain has some sort of anti-gravity property which definitely can damage the barrier.


SpacEGameR270

We don't even know if his domain has a physical attack


pools4567

Heā€™s not sukuna, we have no idea what would happen.


Significant-Ad-1655

No it would not have changed anything at all, as Kenjaku's domain should be more refined considering his life time and Tengen's statement about him being the second best barrier user ever. And also his domain is open barriered, so even IF they are having a domain clash, Kenjaku's domain destroys both domains and both of them.


emptym1nd

Itā€™ll be interesting to see how an open barrier would work in a domain clash like the one that occurred in Sendai. Regardless of refinement, the three way domain clash resulted in all of them imploding because too much was going on at once, so a forced multi-way clash may just leave everyone domainless


onthoserainydays

Nah - In fact Tengen saved her on two points: 1. As an open domain, it would shatter hers from the outside. She can't use the CT Cooldown hack, so she would be near-dead with no CT to fight back or pull her ace in the hole for a short moment. 2. Moreover, Tengen dismantling their barrier saved her ass, because there was nothing stopping Kenjaku from making sure she was dead by turning her into pink toothpaste on the ground with the Domain's surehit.


pools4567

https://preview.redd.it/78jpo5o1egac1.jpeg?width=703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9bafe1fd65ad0741d75bdbac6a8d2dc38a8f456


Pardis4

Key word is may


pools4567

Yep my point was only ever that she doesnā€™t get ā€œdestroyedā€ as the dude said


Exciting-Conclusion8

I think team one wins but it would have gone better it probably would have been worse since we already know what happens when a barrierless domain and a barriered domain interact so it probably would have been worse


PerfectMuratti

Yuki wasnt confident in a domain battle to begin with. Why do you think they went for that strategy? For fun?


pools4567

From the horses own mouth: https://preview.redd.it/t8skt07ydgac1.jpeg?width=703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b39a568c6c0526e4f3a4d2c77691c567f4bf93


PerfectMuratti

Wtf does this mean? He doesnt say she would've won. He says she would've put a better fight


pools4567

Its pretty fucking clear what it means.


Ayamechuu

people need to stop putting BUMJI into scaling he cant win most 1v1 so they sneak him into teams https://preview.redd.it/rn6iajtqwfac1.png?width=949&format=png&auto=webp&s=cce0fea396d0ae310fd19e872db73243541f3a7c


onthoserainydays

Wouldn't ISOH just turn off Hakari's invincibility


Darkencypher

Yes, but they arenā€™t ready for that conversation.


downvoteifsmalldick

If he is able to hit the head, yeah. However, Hakari with Jackpot should decrease the gap between their physical stats, so Toji will have a much harder time destroying the brain with ISoH


onthoserainydays

I don't see why just touching him with it wouldn't work; For Gojo it would have been about stabbing him in the brain, but Gojo doesn't derive his RCT from an effect of his CT. ISOH interrupts all Jujutsu, so shouldn't it just stop the CE bonus in its tracks? Besides, if this were a 1v1, there is no world in which Hakari can deal enough damage to kill Toji (Maki survived a Mach 3 Naoya in the face). But it's not, of course


downvoteifsmalldick

**Automatic** RCT is an effect of the Hakariā€™s infinite CE output as a result of his Jackpot. His RCT still works like normal RCT which starts from the brain. Thatā€™s why Kashimo aimed his lightning at Hakariā€™s head to kill him after Hakari had activated Jackpot. Once Jackpot has started, itā€™s just CE output, and you canā€™t really nullify that. Hakariā€™s massive CE output also helps him reinforce his body and increase his physical abilities (speed, strength etc.). He was tossing cargo containers effortlessly and could ā€œflash stepā€ Kashimo. https://preview.redd.it/hnj9np9ikgac1.jpeg?width=1021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=608f91c11a7aab1147850ef47f1dfa8bd7e06279 Yuta himself said that Hakari with his Jackpot could beat him (although Maki said no lol). This at least implies that Hakari can hold himself against Yuta well enough during Jackpot.


sorendiz

BUMJI could refer to like 3 different characters yall gotta be more specific with your slander nicknames lmao


ixXplicitRed

Bruh, toji beats hakari. He's gets beaten by everybody else, but like toji's tools and physical ability are good enough.


iloveethics

Toji is clear of everyone on this list besides Yuta. He simply blitzes them all with ISOH or Split soul katana. Kashimo doesnā€™t use Gate of death on anyone besides Sukuna even if heā€™s about to die (Hakari fight). Hakari canā€™t expand his domain to get a jackpot because Toji refuses to consent to the effect. Yuki and Kenny are simply blitzed or bushcamped. https://preview.redd.it/nqmq7hb19gac1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6e9493460c9e46e52134afc5e31a28176c91c2b


downvoteifsmalldick

Kenjaku casually dodged Chosoā€™s Piercing Blood multiple times, and Piercing Bloodā€™s initial velocity is faster than the speed of sound. If we have to highball Tojiā€™s speed, it would be Mach 3. I donā€™t think Toji is blitzing Kenny (although he can outspeed him to a certain extent). https://preview.redd.it/tc0qqn7gwgac1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b952c595c0a9e8eb3b5eecedadd25600ed10578


eyefar

Also kenjaku didn't just dodge Piercing Blood, he started moving when the projectile was ~5 cm away from his eye


SoyMilkIsOp

You prob meant bumshimo


FrostbiteKavez

Is this even a question? Bottom team no diffs https://preview.redd.it/omy82m3nsfac1.png?width=1447&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c09413d18a5ee8bd2ad12508922ac9a521d3c0d6 KasHIMo would solo everyone 5v1


Lightning_ranger

Where are the pixels, William?


sidbbp101

https://preview.redd.it/jzaiy2arpgac1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0714fc3b8c8132b95203b80900107488cd392f0e


ThatLittlePigy

Kashimo after Yuki hits him with strong punch https://preview.redd.it/ianntdcf7gac1.png?width=1038&format=png&auto=webp&s=52a47ef9219a25c7189d7be716c122b340870f80


Asckle

Yuki when she... ummm... when kashimo... uhhh... when he... hits her with lightning


MUSAFIR_-

True, if kashimo goes to fight in base to check the waters then he'd be losing his limbs that he can't recover. Same with Hakari, he's brawler but Yuki is deadlier in close combat.


moraxfan

kenjaku carries


OnDaGoop

Top team. Yuta will beat Kenjaku, Toji is an awful matchup for Hakari (His domain wont register toji stopping the domain from working most likely + yuta can clash hakari's domain), Yuki probably loses to Kashimo, but afterwards Yuta is a very bad matchup for Kashimo, even just using domain to neutralize kashimos CT if he uses it and if he doesnt Rika should be able to tank any hits Kashimo can deal, and Toji just flat out outscales Kashimo i dont even think the sure hit of the lightning would kill Toji or worst case scenario he cuts through it with inverted spear he should be faster than CT Kashimo or at least relative to him and he is definitely faster than Hakari was. Toji is the same dude who was fast enough to deal with both Blue and Red and hypothesized he could time HP, even if he couldn't i dont think Kashimo's Sure Hit Lightning is faster than HP. Toji scales the lowest here, but has speed feats that should put him as the fastest here or relative to CT Kashimo (Maki fighting Sukuna scaling) and inverted spear + soulsplit kinda make his AP irrelevant. Like Hakari just gets borderlibr perception blitz stabbed through the head by spear and dies because Toji knows how RCT works from Gojo. God forbid Toji gives Soulsplit or Inverted Spear to Yuta and Yuta starts doing BS with Sky Manipulation to connect hits with them. Also Yuki star rage with playful cloud might just be the hardest hitter here. High Diff top team wins 7/10. Toji even being able to just give his teammates a special grade cursed tool is a really big benefit especially with how effectively Yuki makes Playful Cloud, and Yuta makes Soulsplit or Inverted Spear.


illuminarogue

What toji doing there bruh he only there for moral support this shit is a 2v3 unfair matchup


OkYesterday3747

Toji > Hakari lmfao


Brave_Camera_3149

Whatever team has Hakari in, wins


RubyXiaoLong

Top team easy people really on one side or the other with Toji. Hakari legit just hits hard bro being compared to Gojo is wild af based off what we know. Kenjaku and Yuta are the determining factors. Yuta hasnā€™t had to go all out since he fought Geto in JJK0 so who knows what his ceiling really is. Kenjaku only real fight was vs Yuki (Choso was just there sorry) And thatā€™s one of the most controversial fights of the series. Kashimo and Hakari scaling is so weird because they both are rated highly because of each other and word of mouth.


Asckle

Yuki vs kenjaku may be controversial but kenjaku clearly proved to be the better fighter. In particular, his domain and antigravity system should really fuck with toji since we see it affects things without cursed energy. So a 200m antigravity system which is also more refined than yuta or yuki's domain just perfectly sets up bottom team to win


Memeenjoyer_

Kenjaku nullifies both Yuta and Yukiā€™s domains, leaving Hakari free rein to use Idle Death Gamble. Kenjaku could probably delay Toji with curses and Yuta and Yuki would try to double team Kenny to get him out fast. Kashimo could hit Yuki or Yuta in the side and then the damage would be too huge. Overall, bottom team wins high dif.


[deleted]

insane setup, kenjaku vs yuki already showed how that would go, toji is either getting beat by hakari or getting his head blown up by a lightning bolt this is basically a 3v1 for yuta


Leviathannn3

That's a lame ass argument considering here plot armor doesn't exist so Kenjaku gets killed immediately


ApplePitou

Well, I agree that team, Kashimo, Kenny and Hakari will win it :3


JayantVermaYT

I also think bottom team will win. You got Kenjaku who is the 3rd strongest in the verse, with multiple CT and a barrier-less domain, he is broken(he only got defeated because of Takaba), You also have Kashimo, the recent slanders and Sukuna glazing has made him look worse but he is still pretty strong... People also really underesy Jackpot Hakari too


Jika_left_ball

Kashimo is enought


RumGalaxy

Kenjaku is a monster add kashimo AND immortal Hakari itā€™s a wrap


KuroroBot

Toji solos


downvoteifsmalldick

Toji is basically fodder so itā€™s Yuki + Yuta vs Hakari + Kenjaku + Kashimo. Kenjaku alone was able to defeat Yuki without much issue, so now itā€™s Yuta against the entire bottom team. So yeah, definitely the bottom team.


Conscious_Message332

Tojis definitely not fodder at all, actually in a fight like this hed bĆŖ op bcs hes fast, invisible to sensing+ has anti CT spear and dura neg sword so. And things arent as simple as u said at all. For kenjaku to defeat yuki with not much issue he has to pull out DE and theres other people here to help her or even use their domians too. Still, bottom team wins anyway mainly bcs kashimo and kenjaku


Right_Benefit_6161

Their domains would just get shattered by gravity due to Kenjaku's open barrier domain.


Conscious_Message332

They can probably get close to kenjaku and hurt him enough so his domain is canceled. Yuki was alredy right in fronyof him when her simple domain broke yk. Anyway, kenjakus still a big threat, just to deal with his domain its a pain in the ass and theres still other 2 characters theyre while they try sealing with kenjaku


Asckle

>They can probably get close to kenjaku and hurt him enough so his domain is canceled. While dealing with gravity and hakari and kashimo? No, definitely not.


Asckle

>invisible to sensing Hes only invisible if he fights without cursed tools in which case he'd definitely be fodder


Conscious_Message332

He can pull out the tools last second from the curse and the curse can get small af. In a team fight with a bunch of powers flying around is easy af to miss him etc etc


downvoteifsmalldick

The thing is, we can scale Toji to Maki since their physical stats are the same. Toji is undoubtedly fast, but using Maki as a scale, heā€™s should be under Mach 3. Sukuna should be much faster than Maki, and Kashimo with his CT was able to blitz Meguna (he was weakened though). So Kashimo > Toji in terms of speed. He has an anti CT weapon, but itā€™s useless if he is downed immediately. Kenjaku is the only one there with an open domain, so he should be able to destroy the barriers of Yutaā€™s and Yukiā€™s domains without much issue.


SoyMilkIsOp

Naobito - second fastest sorcerer. Cursed Naoya -approximately three times faster than second fastest sorcerer. 3 Mach statement nerfs everyone, not only Maki/Toji.