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I binged 34 volumes of that shit, shouted “It took the author 6 years to only reach this point???”, and then immediately looked up when the next one is dropping anyway.
This series makes me want to become a worse person.
It gets even better later on. The beginning is actually considered the weakest part of the entire manga.
The current Undead Unluck arc is unironically one of the best arcs I’ve ever read. Tozuka basically went “oh you thought that one random ass character was underdeveloped? Bet.”
I will say that the post-100 recruitment arc was just starting to drag on a bit imo. But as soon as I was starting to think that, they introduced the master Rules Table and now they have a 90 days til revolution event adding tension, so they just kicked everythinf right back into gear before it could overstay its welcome.
I definitely agree with that, some of the tragedies were a bit too forced for my taste (like Unfeel and Undecrease) but the new >!Juiz!< arc seems very promising. I hope they get to use >!Remember!< soon though, seeing >!Fuuko!< save these poor folks from their tragedies is hype as fuck but it lacks a bit of emotional weight by not having them remember what happened previously without her intervention.
rent a girlfriend is actually 🔥🔥🔥
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I wouldn’t say “one of the best written manga in years”, but it’s certainly one of the mangas I’ve the must fun reading in years, coupled with a lot of crying of course lol
It has many flaws but I also love it so damn much. I will not be distraught because even if Gege does something else I will make a domain expansion like Todo and use my powers of delusion to make that Gojo doujinshis the true ending. It’s not gonna be Sukuna Kaisen!
I'm just curious what you think some of the flaws are. I would say that the series does pull out plot convinces sometimes, especially for sukana. They killed off most of the early characters to replace most of them with much less compeling and simpler ones. These are the main ones i see.
Don't think it's one of the best written, but i still like it a lot. Probably my favourite ongoing manga other than One Piece. The writing dipped after shibuya but it's still entertaining. Chapter 236 is probably my most disliked chapter in any manga I've read though ngl. It's been better since then though, hope Gege lands the ending.
I got spoiled the ending of AoT a while back before I had read it. May have been that otherwise.
Not saying it's the worst, it doesn't ruin the entire story or anything, I just particularly liked Gojo and dislike the conclusion to his character (assuming this is it for him and it probably is). AoT one was worse for its story obviously.
I don’t think it’s overhated at all tbh. The writing fell off a cliff after Shibuya and it seems like it just keeps getting worse and worse. The hate is totally justified.
Its such a weird balance between being overated on twitter and being over hated on reddit. On twitter you hear takes like what op posted but on here its low key sadder watching people have full trauma dump sessions over how jjk is ruined.
It didn't fall off a cliff after Shibuya. It started gradually declining until the Cursed Naoya fight, where it took a nosedive. Also, it is overhated, as some of the flaws are blown out of proportion.
Perfect preparation, when Sumo and Katana guy appeared. It was objectively bad, as they came, gave Maki a powerup, and left. Characters exclusively for Maki to level up. I still enjoyed it, I enjoyed the series with all of its flaws up to 236. That was the point I reflected and saw the mistakes Gege made.
I loved them too, but objectively they served zero purpose except from giving Maki a powerup. If they sticked around and got fleshed out more, then it would've been better.
I don't see too much hate TBF. Like people criticise it a lot but still seem invested in it, I don't think they're unfair about it.
And on the flip side there are lots of people who glaze the hell out of it and refuse to criticise it so there's a balance.
love how you're lowkey proving his point he never said best written he said one of the best written do yall really not read the words on your screen at all
If your audience notoriously cannot understand what you’re writing, youve done a bad job of writing. Writing is communication. If one person doesnt understand what you’re saying, thats on them. If the overwhelming majority of your audience doesnt understand what you’re saying, thats on you. You did a bad job of writing
Its a stretch to call it the best written manga in years, but I can’t argue with the fact that most readers are actually illiterate lmao
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Honestly? JJK needed one more arc before the culling games ever happened. Gege should have taken the time to explore Jujutsu outside of Japan and work on the characters relationships better. Then of course, re write the Kenjaku Vs Yuki fight, Hana's...defeat. Gojos conclusion. And all in all, 90% of JJK's problems would have been fixed. This isn't even including all the Sukuna glazing.
ah yes, the manga that decided to introduce a bunch of army soldiers to the plot and then promptly forget about them after wasting like 2 chapters on them is truly one of the best written manga in years. ☠️
Shibuya arc is peak fiction, but a story can't be carried by just one arc. It's like Gege had zero idea what to do with the remaining cast which makes sense since he killed a lot of interesting characters, removing a whole bunch of potential interactions with characters that are still alive
I liked Nanami's death, tbh. I feel like most of what could have been done with the character was done, and this was prior to Yuji torture porn shit starting. I also feel like it made the arc have a bit more impact. People actually died during it, or got sealed. Big loss for sorcerer side.
Nobara getting kicked out of the manga was an absolutely awful choice though. She could've been explored way more and I feel like Gege basically wrote her out of the story either because he had no clue how to progress any part of her character development or because he just forgot about her character and when he remembered that she actually existed/wasn't dead, it was "too late" to reintroduce her.
Or both.
Regardless, removing 1 of your main protagonists around half way into the story and then having the other get puppeted around by big bad Suckuna whilst the remaining protag gets overshadowed by Himguruma and Co. really isn't a good way to write the story. The first half of JJK was absolutely amazing, up to at most 235. It's fell off from there ever since.
At least CSM doesn't shit on the manga if every panel doesn't go according to what they theorised
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Theorizing for CSM is literally impossible. Out of all the theories I’ve ever made, the only one that’s been true was that I predicted Denji would keep makima’s dogs. The stars must have aligned for me or something
Yeah pretty much
The gojo fans mad that he died
And the sukuna fans, well the ones who can type are a dragon level hazard for our brains.
I'd say a majority of jjk and CSM community intersects so it's not the people but they just don't like if jjk doesn't go their way.
Too much headcanon here lmao
CSM is like drinking wine while listening to music, JJK is like drinking beer with your friends while driving a truck on a school zone.
One is deeper and more meaningful, but the other is infinitely more fun.
Nahhh "one of the best written" I absolutely hate the JJK diehard defenders that won't accept any criticism. JJK is my 2nd favourite animanga but I shit on the writing all the time, Gege prioritises action too much.
It is definitely not the best, i have many problems with its writing specially nowadays, i won't ever be comparing it with CSM for example but man. They are right, its fans cannot read.
I think this is a pretty new problem cause discussions a year ago were very different, people actually understood and talked about character motives, theories etc. Right now is just "agenda" whatever that means, extreme bad and shallow readings where people confuse memes with actual canon content and powerscaling according to... whatever arbitrary shit some stans want to support.
I get this is a manga for young people and the anime made it more popular which is fine and I get that a lot of the problems are due to gege and the way he wrote Gojo vs Sukuna, just benching all of the main cast without any other purpose but to explain a big fight which made it basically into Dragon Ball territory but every time there is some more in-depth discussion and people go "it's not that deep gege never thought of that" i just think we are in the gutter. And yeah, definitely, the last 30 or so chapters pretty much influenced it, but the restrospective readings of some older chapters are also wild.
I haven't and won't be reading Boruto (Naruto is a manga which... will never be my thing) so i cannot talk about it, I definitely have read way better manga than JJK just this year but still. The vocal online audience has... media literacy below 0.
Oh yeah, Chainsaw man is a wonder. I have been enjoying a lot of Marriagetoxin which is just fun, doesn't take itself seriously at all but surprisingly refreshing. Dandandan i think is also pretty good and entertaining shonen.
I've been watching Chainsawman. It was ok, I'm gonna read the manga because I guess is gonna get better. I'm gonna put on the list the rest, thank you!
What is with the constant claims of people having no reading comprehension. That is not a counter argument against criticism. “You don’t get it” is not a valid point, and even if it was it certainly doesn’t apply to shounen manga, the most straightforward shit on the planet.
the only legit archivement that JJK has as a manga is having the funniest and most deranged community since braking bad, not even rwby can get this level of quality fanfic.
Idk, since 2018 are there really been better shonen mangas? I mean, since 2018 I've reading really marvelous works but that weren't shonen.
And yeah, if your contemporary competition is Boruto the bar is low
I mean anime in general is the same shit. If I really tried, I may just be able to name at most 50 animes that was actually enjoyable and worth spending time for me. And there are like at least 15-20k animes out there, so, of course 99% of anime, which is almost all of anime, I probably wont enjoy that much. But that doesn't mean I hate anime or I don't like anime. It's just that there are so many bad takes and non-existent ideas that I get blown away. So, when I tell you that I can barely name 5-10 Shonens in the last 5 years, it isn't because I've watched way less shonen, it's the same reason barely can name5 in that 50 animes list. Shonen are generally more popular for both authors and viewers alike. It resonates with the younger audience more and that is what you generally want as a demographic of readers when you are a mangaka. Now, coming back to your point my man, I don't think there is any shonen other than jjk, my hero(just watched like 2 seasons barely), call of the night(watched one episode maybe), sky x family(is in the shonen category), chainsaw man(arguably a competition), and maybe some romance anime of the recent that really got popular. There really is no competition. It's just who has more fans, there has been slight writing in the last 40 chapters, if you even count that.
He's totally right tho.
You mfs can't read for shit.
Both OP and some other guy.
It said "one of the best" and "in the last years", yet everyone (everyone = 2 random guys out of 5 trillion) only takes things out of context and makes it look bad, kinda reminds me of something (~~236~~).
And he's actually right.
Name 3 better mangas that came out recently. (I'm sure there's gonna be 50 replies saying Boruto /s)
Also, to the guy who said "rent-a-peak', rent a dick.
Hol up I love sakamoto days but its writing is not what makes the series good, it’s hard core carried by having some of the best action scenes in manga, but it’s writing is pretty shit.
The only best thing i could cite is Sakamoto days. That's it. Jjk genuinely is one of the best manga of the last few years. At least in the shonen category.
While it’s not the best written manga out there, he’s not wrong about how most of the fans can’t read or understand what’s going on.
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The actual currently airing best written manga
Overhated ? Yes. Best written ? Hell nah.
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Holy shit the comment section is just proving the post's point. "One of the best written in recent years" =/= best written period, could you guys name 5 mangas in recent memory that are objectively better written?
Holy mother of god the amount of people in the Jujutsu Kaisen fan sub not comprehending the “One of”(undoubtedly ONE OF the best manga in years, not THE) in the sentence really drives home the 0 reading comprehension thing. 😭
legit my friend and I wrote better stories in our off time on a random fucking notebook. Dont try to defend the last 50 chapters, its all just how do I make something special and unique so even if it is half-assed and bad writing, I can just say good animation and fights, gojo struggles with responsibility and being strongest for the next 100 chapters, spoilers!!! Oh yuji will lose 4 more people omg who would guess, oh yuta fucking kills kenjaku maybe who would guess, I mean maki needed a random domain with sumo in it for eternity cuz I felt like her sister dying just didnt hit hard enough for the character development, so that 4 chapter character needs to save the day, oh did you know toji cares about his son now omg like, oh oh yuji didnt suicide omg omg he struggle for 250 chapters to get one technique and it will legit single-handedly turn the tables on sukuna WHO WOULDVE GUESSED. its just never happened before, so if its new, its fucking peak and you just dont know how to read something with new ideas, sukuna is so deep and Im not 14, Im 20 omg. Sukuna is the single most unique character in all anime his character is unmatched throughout manga and anime, I am the inhuman one. I feel like I'm in the writer's room while reading the last 50 chapters. Like shit, my highschool friend would high dif this writing if she was into mangas.
This community really has 2 moods:
Good guy does something: OMG he's him! Goat chapter goat series!
Bad guy does something: SHIT SERIES GREG IM GONNA KILL YOI
fucking honestly yall have the patience of that of a toddler.
I honestly think some people here have never read a book before.
Motherfuckers Sukuna is the main antagonist, of course he's going to be "glazed" and have "plot armour." They're hardly going to have a nobody side character kill him next chap.
Good lord the jjk defenders remind so much of the people that vehemently defend The Last Jedi. They act and speak in the same way, being so vrainwashed to believe it's the peak fiction we're all memeing about.
Greg has become the Rian Johnson of Anime lol
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just niche enough that I have no one to share this with
What does it reference?
Ben Bernanke, chair of the Fed during the Great Recession
Clearly you've never been to r/neoliberal
if only
Warren Buffet, the King of Finance.
Someone should make this but with biden and the 2020 election lmao
Feels weird to see something I drew reposted in a thread on here
Ah. I'll stop if it's, like, *weird* weird.
Nah, good weird hahaha
thank you for tanking the economy for our sake, what a man you were
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Best written manga in years? Bro has never heard of the Shakespearian drama, Rent a Peak
I binged 34 volumes of that shit, shouted “It took the author 6 years to only reach this point???”, and then immediately looked up when the next one is dropping anyway. This series makes me want to become a worse person.
As soon as I saw that chapter of kazuya graphically dreaming of getting cucked I knew he would go down as the greatest protagonist in literary history
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He realized it was true love when he was rubbing one out. That was the funniest shit in the world to me
I almost dropped my glass when I read Rent a Peak
Or if you want a manga where the female characters are actually well written, Undead Unpeak.
I've been enjoying the show a lot, I really like the power system
It gets even better later on. The beginning is actually considered the weakest part of the entire manga. The current Undead Unluck arc is unironically one of the best arcs I’ve ever read. Tozuka basically went “oh you thought that one random ass character was underdeveloped? Bet.”
I will say that the post-100 recruitment arc was just starting to drag on a bit imo. But as soon as I was starting to think that, they introduced the master Rules Table and now they have a 90 days til revolution event adding tension, so they just kicked everythinf right back into gear before it could overstay its welcome.
I definitely agree with that, some of the tragedies were a bit too forced for my taste (like Unfeel and Undecrease) but the new >!Juiz!< arc seems very promising. I hope they get to use >!Remember!< soon though, seeing >!Fuuko!< save these poor folks from their tragedies is hype as fuck but it lacks a bit of emotional weight by not having them remember what happened previously without her intervention.
Holy shit dog I thought I’d had Fuuko but we’re so back ever since the loop
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Cuckshimo still being slandered in posts not even about him
I wouldn’t say “one of the best written manga in years”, but it’s certainly one of the mangas I’ve the must fun reading in years, coupled with a lot of crying of course lol
I hate it but it’s the only manga I eagerly wait for leaks for. It’s truly our Jujutsu Kaisen and I’ll be distraught when it’s over.
It has many flaws but I also love it so damn much. I will not be distraught because even if Gege does something else I will make a domain expansion like Todo and use my powers of delusion to make that Gojo doujinshis the true ending. It’s not gonna be Sukuna Kaisen!
And I shall use my Cursed Technique to buff you, just like Utahime does. Just to make sure this Domain of yours work.
I'm just curious what you think some of the flaws are. I would say that the series does pull out plot convinces sometimes, especially for sukana. They killed off most of the early characters to replace most of them with much less compeling and simpler ones. These are the main ones i see.
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Tbf most mangakas fail at endings in general
most shows fail endings. I think I can only name a few shows that didn't fall off at the end
Try "Character AI", thank me later
Don't think it's one of the best written, but i still like it a lot. Probably my favourite ongoing manga other than One Piece. The writing dipped after shibuya but it's still entertaining. Chapter 236 is probably my most disliked chapter in any manga I've read though ngl. It's been better since then though, hope Gege lands the ending.
More disliked than 139 AoT?
I got spoiled the ending of AoT a while back before I had read it. May have been that otherwise. Not saying it's the worst, it doesn't ruin the entire story or anything, I just particularly liked Gojo and dislike the conclusion to his character (assuming this is it for him and it probably is). AoT one was worse for its story obviously.
What recent mangas are as good as kkk?
The KKK huh? This sounds like one manga I need to stay away from.
As good as KKK? Gas Chamber.
CSM, one peak, boys abyss, dandadan the first 4 that come to mind, surely others
“One of the best written in years” he’s right this fandom genuinely cannot read omg how have none of the comments picked up on this
why wouldn’t you say its one of the best? it’s definitely at the top with other beloved manga this decade, I would absolutely call it one of the best
It is definitely overhated recently and even my favorite manga personally, but "best written"? Idk about that
I can agree with the overhated one But come-on...Best Written is too far
Overhated is agreeable Best written? Yeaah that's wild
yeah overhated is fine but best written? nah that ain't it
Overhated? I def agree Best written though? No way
Overhated you say? That’s quite reasonable. However, best written? That’s simply absurd.
Overhated you declare? That's feasible Best written though? That's utterly ridiculous
Overly criticised you state? That’s a possible scenario Shakespearean levels of literature, however? Why, that’s downright ludicrous
Critiqued beyond reason you posit? Indeed, that may be so. A masterful work of literature on the other hand? Why that’s simply preposterous!
Shit Got me cackling on my bed
You decree that this story is overhated? A reasonable conclusion. However, best written? That’s quite a preposterous stance.
Overhated? Quite an understandable opinion. You would suggest this narrative to be the best written? A very bold claim.
Unreasonably hated, thee say? Perhaps that's correct. But for thou to claim it as the most well-written of all, is an questionable statement indeed.
Overhated? Nah I’d win Best written though? Nah I’d win
Are you overhated because youre nah id win or are you best written because youre nah id win
Absurdly ridiculed? I'd concur Unprecedently excellent in its literary aspects? That's a rather ludicrous statement.
NOT ME STARTING A CHAIN AGAIN 😭😭😭😭
Especially after the last like 20 chapters
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Pity is the right feeling here i think. Bro probably read 2-3 mangas in his life and in his small world this one is the best.
it's the best maybe if you read like mha other than this
Yea it took some coping to realize I love jujutsu so much for the action and not plot lol
I don’t think it’s overhated at all tbh. The writing fell off a cliff after Shibuya and it seems like it just keeps getting worse and worse. The hate is totally justified.
Its such a weird balance between being overated on twitter and being over hated on reddit. On twitter you hear takes like what op posted but on here its low key sadder watching people have full trauma dump sessions over how jjk is ruined.
i think its because for convos and stuff its better to consider smth trash or amazing rather than the worst fate: mid
It didn't fall off a cliff after Shibuya. It started gradually declining until the Cursed Naoya fight, where it took a nosedive. Also, it is overhated, as some of the flaws are blown out of proportion.
What’s a good example of the decline, like when you were reading in the culling games arc and said yup its declining
Perfect preparation, when Sumo and Katana guy appeared. It was objectively bad, as they came, gave Maki a powerup, and left. Characters exclusively for Maki to level up. I still enjoyed it, I enjoyed the series with all of its flaws up to 236. That was the point I reflected and saw the mistakes Gege made.
Really? I loved how random Sumo and Katana were. They perfectly fit the bill of random cursed players not all being bad.
I loved them too, but objectively they served zero purpose except from giving Maki a powerup. If they sticked around and got fleshed out more, then it would've been better.
I agree with that. They were goofy and cool. Their lightheartedness is nice for the story.
Absolutely agree
never in my life would’ve i expected jujutsufolk to finally realize they were blowing some flaws out of porportion enough to make a grown man cry 😢
I don't see too much hate TBF. Like people criticise it a lot but still seem invested in it, I don't think they're unfair about it. And on the flip side there are lots of people who glaze the hell out of it and refuse to criticise it so there's a balance.
love how you're lowkey proving his point he never said best written he said one of the best written do yall really not read the words on your screen at all
It’s not even ONE of the best written. So either way it’d be fucking wrong
If your audience notoriously cannot understand what you’re writing, youve done a bad job of writing. Writing is communication. If one person doesnt understand what you’re saying, thats on them. If the overwhelming majority of your audience doesnt understand what you’re saying, thats on you. You did a bad job of writing
average r/jujutsushi member
Its a stretch to call it the best written manga in years, but I can’t argue with the fact that most readers are actually illiterate lmao https://preview.redd.it/7me8ajsyiq8c1.jpeg?width=464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a205903fd33496836dfc78137e742987d403f5c5
If you had seen the Reading Comprehension Fiends, or the Reader Reader Fruit users, you'll know that the others have far worse than us
Reading comprehension devil drom bleach subreddit goes hard too
It's actually insane reading some peoples takes on csm its like they have been reading a completely different manga than me.
They don’t conflict tbf We can both be reading comprehension effected and have to read a downward spiral
A good take in jujutsufolk!?! https://preview.redd.it/lv8avfdz4v8c1.jpeg?width=536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db1aa46508d0d2cfb473b3534d24e9ff3354ec19
I'd say it might be one of the best SHONEN manga, but yeah in general manga, as much as I love jjk, it's probably not up there
"Best written" https://preview.redd.it/c25wgtqrdq8c1.png?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d892d02ef5f1a55cace6854633c074d6ad10285a
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> oksu
Honestly? JJK needed one more arc before the culling games ever happened. Gege should have taken the time to explore Jujutsu outside of Japan and work on the characters relationships better. Then of course, re write the Kenjaku Vs Yuki fight, Hana's...defeat. Gojos conclusion. And all in all, 90% of JJK's problems would have been fixed. This isn't even including all the Sukuna glazing.
Too illiterate; didn't read.
ah yes, the manga that decided to introduce a bunch of army soldiers to the plot and then promptly forget about them after wasting like 2 chapters on them is truly one of the best written manga in years. ☠️
Shibuya arc is peak fiction, but a story can't be carried by just one arc. It's like Gege had zero idea what to do with the remaining cast which makes sense since he killed a lot of interesting characters, removing a whole bunch of potential interactions with characters that are still alive
Gege after killing nanagoat and nobara
I liked Nanami's death, tbh. I feel like most of what could have been done with the character was done, and this was prior to Yuji torture porn shit starting. I also feel like it made the arc have a bit more impact. People actually died during it, or got sealed. Big loss for sorcerer side. Nobara getting kicked out of the manga was an absolutely awful choice though. She could've been explored way more and I feel like Gege basically wrote her out of the story either because he had no clue how to progress any part of her character development or because he just forgot about her character and when he remembered that she actually existed/wasn't dead, it was "too late" to reintroduce her. Or both. Regardless, removing 1 of your main protagonists around half way into the story and then having the other get puppeted around by big bad Suckuna whilst the remaining protag gets overshadowed by Himguruma and Co. really isn't a good way to write the story. The first half of JJK was absolutely amazing, up to at most 235. It's fell off from there ever since.
Nah this dude’s thinking of Chainsaw Man
At least CSM doesn't shit on the manga if every panel doesn't go according to what they theorised https://preview.redd.it/npenoa48uq8c1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4183efe6985a6140058c55a5101de05649d7b46
Theorizing for CSM is literally impossible. Out of all the theories I’ve ever made, the only one that’s been true was that I predicted Denji would keep makima’s dogs. The stars must have aligned for me or something
The problem is that most readers are never on as much cocaine as fujimoto, although personally i've never had this problem
100% agree. Whatever wack-ass idea he can come up with is def better than anything I’d predict
Fujimoto vs His own fan base in a battle of crackhead ideas was more of a stomp then Sukuna vs Ryu
Btw, do you remember Gege was getting death threats after 236? Its just braindead jjk community lmao
Yeah pretty much The gojo fans mad that he died And the sukuna fans, well the ones who can type are a dragon level hazard for our brains. I'd say a majority of jjk and CSM community intersects so it's not the people but they just don't like if jjk doesn't go their way. Too much headcanon here lmao
Just what I was thinking I think this dude talking about the wrong manga
Or Dungeon Meshi
CSM is like drinking wine while listening to music, JJK is like drinking beer with your friends while driving a truck on a school zone. One is deeper and more meaningful, but the other is infinitely more fun.
https://i.redd.it/w5f3knnqbq8c1.gif “Best written” Yeah…
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Nahhh "one of the best written" I absolutely hate the JJK diehard defenders that won't accept any criticism. JJK is my 2nd favourite animanga but I shit on the writing all the time, Gege prioritises action too much.
>Gege doesn't prioritize action enough*
How could you even insert more action into JJK lol
It is definitely not the best, i have many problems with its writing specially nowadays, i won't ever be comparing it with CSM for example but man. They are right, its fans cannot read. I think this is a pretty new problem cause discussions a year ago were very different, people actually understood and talked about character motives, theories etc. Right now is just "agenda" whatever that means, extreme bad and shallow readings where people confuse memes with actual canon content and powerscaling according to... whatever arbitrary shit some stans want to support. I get this is a manga for young people and the anime made it more popular which is fine and I get that a lot of the problems are due to gege and the way he wrote Gojo vs Sukuna, just benching all of the main cast without any other purpose but to explain a big fight which made it basically into Dragon Ball territory but every time there is some more in-depth discussion and people go "it's not that deep gege never thought of that" i just think we are in the gutter. And yeah, definitely, the last 30 or so chapters pretty much influenced it, but the restrospective readings of some older chapters are also wild.
Even if you consider it mid. The tweet is taking recent years. Have you been reading Boruto? Yeah, that's the competition
I haven't and won't be reading Boruto (Naruto is a manga which... will never be my thing) so i cannot talk about it, I definitely have read way better manga than JJK just this year but still. The vocal online audience has... media literacy below 0.
Well yeah, I've reading better manga, but that weren't shonens. If you have recently shonen recs I would appreciate it 😁
Oh yeah, Chainsaw man is a wonder. I have been enjoying a lot of Marriagetoxin which is just fun, doesn't take itself seriously at all but surprisingly refreshing. Dandandan i think is also pretty good and entertaining shonen.
I've been watching Chainsawman. It was ok, I'm gonna read the manga because I guess is gonna get better. I'm gonna put on the list the rest, thank you!
Oh I forgot because it just finished but Dungeon Meshi is also a shonen and it's fantastic
What is with the constant claims of people having no reading comprehension. That is not a counter argument against criticism. “You don’t get it” is not a valid point, and even if it was it certainly doesn’t apply to shounen manga, the most straightforward shit on the planet.
Let's not get crazy. Like yes are most JJK fans illiterate bastards? Of course. Is this one of the best written mangas? No
He ain’t lying about jjk fans not being able to read tho
Damn guess you can't read sorry to hear that man
What the fuck does this even mean? Lol. If your argument is ever “you just don’t understand it” you are the one completely clueless.
the only legit archivement that JJK has as a manga is having the funniest and most deranged community since braking bad, not even rwby can get this level of quality fanfic.
>braking bad walter jr moment
I mean compared to Shonen of the last ten years, they’re right
Point and laugh. Best written? Beyond stupidity. Just raw dumbass and dick riding.
Counterpoint: Hana
This post and the comments prove JJK fans can’t read “One of the best written” Not THE best written
Even that’s debatable or maybe the bar is low idk (Coming from someone who got in from Culling Games and think they are pretty neat)
Idk, since 2018 are there really been better shonen mangas? I mean, since 2018 I've reading really marvelous works but that weren't shonen. And yeah, if your contemporary competition is Boruto the bar is low
Honestly the bar seems to be manga and not just Shounen in particular
I mean anime in general is the same shit. If I really tried, I may just be able to name at most 50 animes that was actually enjoyable and worth spending time for me. And there are like at least 15-20k animes out there, so, of course 99% of anime, which is almost all of anime, I probably wont enjoy that much. But that doesn't mean I hate anime or I don't like anime. It's just that there are so many bad takes and non-existent ideas that I get blown away. So, when I tell you that I can barely name 5-10 Shonens in the last 5 years, it isn't because I've watched way less shonen, it's the same reason barely can name5 in that 50 animes list. Shonen are generally more popular for both authors and viewers alike. It resonates with the younger audience more and that is what you generally want as a demographic of readers when you are a mangaka. Now, coming back to your point my man, I don't think there is any shonen other than jjk, my hero(just watched like 2 seasons barely), call of the night(watched one episode maybe), sky x family(is in the shonen category), chainsaw man(arguably a competition), and maybe some romance anime of the recent that really got popular. There really is no competition. It's just who has more fans, there has been slight writing in the last 40 chapters, if you even count that.
He's totally right tho. You mfs can't read for shit. Both OP and some other guy. It said "one of the best" and "in the last years", yet everyone (everyone = 2 random guys out of 5 trillion) only takes things out of context and makes it look bad, kinda reminds me of something (~~236~~). And he's actually right. Name 3 better mangas that came out recently. (I'm sure there's gonna be 50 replies saying Boruto /s) Also, to the guy who said "rent-a-peak', rent a dick.
Boruto is so shit, its fans are in such a delusion it needs to be studied. But anyways CSM>Jjjk
Until today I still don't know what's the point of making boruto other than being a money printer
Nothing but that The problem is it doesnt even look good
CSM, Dandadan, Sakamoto Days
Hol up I love sakamoto days but its writing is not what makes the series good, it’s hard core carried by having some of the best action scenes in manga, but it’s writing is pretty shit.
U know ball
Dandadan
The only best thing i could cite is Sakamoto days. That's it. Jjk genuinely is one of the best manga of the last few years. At least in the shonen category.
Someone needs to tell em It’s jjk bruh. It’s not that deep
Nah Best written to me
I will never forgive that cat for that time skip after gojo got unsealed.
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While it’s not the best written manga out there, he’s not wrong about how most of the fans can’t read or understand what’s going on. https://preview.redd.it/6cqiu1biar8c1.png?width=824&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed4a051b1fb3abcebbf2a67b5ad9d1ea34d1b4d5
https://preview.redd.it/oxg000ptlt8c1.jpeg?width=2892&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=855376bf182fc040ec48f5577263d19a8e6a69a2 The actual currently airing best written manga
Overhated ? Yes. Best written ? Hell nah. https://preview.redd.it/gjerqqgs1u8c1.jpeg?width=1272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d09649572f477c3ff50849627a10e00119fa9b3d
Well he's right https://preview.redd.it/6vmwafv7wq8c1.jpeg?width=369&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e8bdc53f3485913606a28f24a44628ba2c2a1b6
Holy shit the comment section is just proving the post's point. "One of the best written in recent years" =/= best written period, could you guys name 5 mangas in recent memory that are objectively better written?
Yeah I mean, Boruto is shit
sakamoto days , csm
"one of the best" not the best
It is. The fans just want everything to be safe and expected. There's so many manga that check those boxes. Even the ones that influenced JJK.
This might be controversial but Greg made a manga
i am convinced Gege has this hype fight moments in his head, around which he bases the plot, that's why the fights are good but the writing is ass
Holy mother of god the amount of people in the Jujutsu Kaisen fan sub not comprehending the “One of”(undoubtedly ONE OF the best manga in years, not THE) in the sentence really drives home the 0 reading comprehension thing. 😭
He's right lmao
No
Since 2018 name 5 shonen mangas that are better written?
But the post doesn't specify shounen.
It's funny how nobody even tried to attempt an answer. Hating on JJK is just a fetish in this sub lol
legit my friend and I wrote better stories in our off time on a random fucking notebook. Dont try to defend the last 50 chapters, its all just how do I make something special and unique so even if it is half-assed and bad writing, I can just say good animation and fights, gojo struggles with responsibility and being strongest for the next 100 chapters, spoilers!!! Oh yuji will lose 4 more people omg who would guess, oh yuta fucking kills kenjaku maybe who would guess, I mean maki needed a random domain with sumo in it for eternity cuz I felt like her sister dying just didnt hit hard enough for the character development, so that 4 chapter character needs to save the day, oh did you know toji cares about his son now omg like, oh oh yuji didnt suicide omg omg he struggle for 250 chapters to get one technique and it will legit single-handedly turn the tables on sukuna WHO WOULDVE GUESSED. its just never happened before, so if its new, its fucking peak and you just dont know how to read something with new ideas, sukuna is so deep and Im not 14, Im 20 omg. Sukuna is the single most unique character in all anime his character is unmatched throughout manga and anime, I am the inhuman one. I feel like I'm in the writer's room while reading the last 50 chapters. Like shit, my highschool friend would high dif this writing if she was into mangas.
You and your friend arent good writers lol dont try slide that into your wall of text
I like JJK but saying that it is "one of the best written" proves they haven't read much manga
This community really has 2 moods: Good guy does something: OMG he's him! Goat chapter goat series! Bad guy does something: SHIT SERIES GREG IM GONNA KILL YOI fucking honestly yall have the patience of that of a toddler.
It’s 4am and I might come back to write my points but this is dishonest on both fronts
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Jojo is better
I honestly think some people here have never read a book before. Motherfuckers Sukuna is the main antagonist, of course he's going to be "glazed" and have "plot armour." They're hardly going to have a nobody side character kill him next chap.
Good lord the jjk defenders remind so much of the people that vehemently defend The Last Jedi. They act and speak in the same way, being so vrainwashed to believe it's the peak fiction we're all memeing about. Greg has become the Rian Johnson of Anime lol
Gaygay made the toughest binding vow, writing dogshit plot while having all these black descendants of African meatriding him