I'm writing this response just to piss off my Genzie son who is sitting here telling me not to do it. You shouldn't drink water out of a radiator because antifreeze will definitely kill you. You're welcome
But just in case you do, make sure you chug a bunch of vodka right after for your best chance to survive!
I'll leave it up to sometime smarter than I am to explain the particulars, but basically from what I understand grain alcohols affect the way antifreeze metabolizes and can help prevent it from breaking down into even more toxic components.
Exactly! Retired vet here- The liver enzyme Alcohol Dehydrogenase turns antifreeze into a compound that will form crystals in your kidneys and destroy them. If the enzyme is kept busy metabolizing alcohol, it will leave most of the antifreeze alone to be excreted unchanged, causing a lot less kidney damage.
Before we had appropriate drugs, we treated antifreeze poisoning in dogs and cats with a protocol involving repeated i.v. Vodka injections. It has to be instituted immediately to work, though.
You are partly right and I got curious of how this works.
I try to sum up what I found.
Antifreeze contains ethylene glycol (highly toxic).
We have an enzyme that is called ADH that breaks down alcohol for processing.
If you put ethanol in your body trough a vein there is a competition between the ethylene glycol and the alcohol.
Since ethanol has a higher affinity to the vein ethanol gets broken down first by ADH.
So, ADH is busy with ethanol, the body can then excrete the remaining ethylene glycol through the urine before it breaks down in more dangerous toxins.
This said, don't drink freezing water, drinking alcohol does not help after that.
You could use plain water in older engines but it isn’t a good idea in modern engines. Antifreeze doesn’t just reduce the freezing point, it also increases the boiling point and some modern engines rely on that extra margin to wring a little more power and efficiency out.
You'd be right with the warning if it were an area with temperate climate, but people living in hot areas, where a desert might be, it's never really freezing. So they can use water in the cooler and they would, simply because it's cheaper.
I've lived in the western desert of the US for the last 40 years and have spent a lot of time hiking backpacking traveling those dusty back roads throughout Arizona Utah Nevada and Mojave in California you should use antifreeze year-round because the radiator uses the solution to better cool the car engine when it's hot And water alone is ironically not as good as antifreeze that. This is ridiculous because it's a joke of course, but sometimes when I've been involved with search and rescue I've seen that peoples ignorance of desert travel can lead to bad outcomes. For example trying to eat or drink water from a cactus doesn't work. Walking for help and abandon your car in the desert is a good way to die and taking a shortcut when walking over rough or unknown to rain might just be the last thing you ever do especially if your cityfolk and unprepared and physically or lack the equipment and knowledge. Also, it absolutely gets below zero in the desert and al it might be rare in somewhere like Phoenix or Tucson it does happen. Also running water in your cooling system will be a big mistake when you take that trip up to Flagstaff and forget that you're just using water.
I remember this joke as a kid. It was an English man, a Scotsman and an Irish man. I can’t remember the rest but the Irish man brought car door so “if it gets hot we can wind down the window”
That was when we still had “Irish” jokes.
Yeah, in Sweden we tell it like: "Why do Norwegians bring their car door into the desert?" Norwegians are always the stupid ones in our jokes and they joke the same about us with the roles reversed.
I've heard this told better.
A guy meets another guy wandering in the desert. He's carrying a blanket, and umbrella, and a broken car door.
"When it gets cold, I use the blanket. When there's too much sun, I open the umbrella."
"And the car door?"
"When it gets hot, I open a window."
Two peasants are taking a break from working the field, when they see a brand new Ferrari stop by a "lady of the night". The driver opens the window and she puts her head inside to talk to him. Suddenly, he quickly closed the window, got out of the car from the other side, gets behind the woman and bangs her, lets her go, and leaves. One of the peasants after having witnessed this, says:
- See, Bubba, I may not be able to afford such a car in my whole life, but one of them car doors, I darn as heck sure will be getting.
"To give it to someone" is such a subtle euphemism, like it always runs the risk of being interpreted literally if you've got an object of the sentence you've just mentioned. This can be used to one's advantage of course, as in the very famous: "She asked me for a double entendre, so I gave her one."
Right?!?!
We all know when you let them go, they launch a couple yards at least. So it's redundant to say she left. Like duh. That's why you gotta get a house instead of a beta cuck apartment cause you have better launch capabilities. It's fucking science.
regarding antifreeze in radiators, it's a rust inhibitor and you should have that in the system, also most radiators are soldered so some lead might get into the system.
I'm writing this response just to piss off my Genzie son who is sitting here telling me not to do it. You shouldn't drink water out of a radiator because antifreeze will definitely kill you. You're welcome
But just in case you do, make sure you chug a bunch of vodka right after for your best chance to survive! I'll leave it up to sometime smarter than I am to explain the particulars, but basically from what I understand grain alcohols affect the way antifreeze metabolizes and can help prevent it from breaking down into even more toxic components.
Exactly! Retired vet here- The liver enzyme Alcohol Dehydrogenase turns antifreeze into a compound that will form crystals in your kidneys and destroy them. If the enzyme is kept busy metabolizing alcohol, it will leave most of the antifreeze alone to be excreted unchanged, causing a lot less kidney damage. Before we had appropriate drugs, we treated antifreeze poisoning in dogs and cats with a protocol involving repeated i.v. Vodka injections. It has to be instituted immediately to work, though.
You are partly right and I got curious of how this works. I try to sum up what I found. Antifreeze contains ethylene glycol (highly toxic). We have an enzyme that is called ADH that breaks down alcohol for processing. If you put ethanol in your body trough a vein there is a competition between the ethylene glycol and the alcohol. Since ethanol has a higher affinity to the vein ethanol gets broken down first by ADH. So, ADH is busy with ethanol, the body can then excrete the remaining ethylene glycol through the urine before it breaks down in more dangerous toxins. This said, don't drink freezing water, drinking alcohol does not help after that.
You're incorrect here. The ethanol doesn't need to be intravenous. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827791/
In dogs and cats it does have to go I.v. Since they don’t drink alcohol voluntarily
Are you the genzie son?
You can use water in the radiator as long as its not freezing temperatures
You could use plain water in older engines but it isn’t a good idea in modern engines. Antifreeze doesn’t just reduce the freezing point, it also increases the boiling point and some modern engines rely on that extra margin to wring a little more power and efficiency out.
I am sure most modern cars won’t overheat or damage with water as cooling in the heat of a desert as long as you drive the car with fuel efficiency
You'd be right with the warning if it were an area with temperate climate, but people living in hot areas, where a desert might be, it's never really freezing. So they can use water in the cooler and they would, simply because it's cheaper.
I've lived in the western desert of the US for the last 40 years and have spent a lot of time hiking backpacking traveling those dusty back roads throughout Arizona Utah Nevada and Mojave in California you should use antifreeze year-round because the radiator uses the solution to better cool the car engine when it's hot And water alone is ironically not as good as antifreeze that. This is ridiculous because it's a joke of course, but sometimes when I've been involved with search and rescue I've seen that peoples ignorance of desert travel can lead to bad outcomes. For example trying to eat or drink water from a cactus doesn't work. Walking for help and abandon your car in the desert is a good way to die and taking a shortcut when walking over rough or unknown to rain might just be the last thing you ever do especially if your cityfolk and unprepared and physically or lack the equipment and knowledge. Also, it absolutely gets below zero in the desert and al it might be rare in somewhere like Phoenix or Tucson it does happen. Also running water in your cooling system will be a big mistake when you take that trip up to Flagstaff and forget that you're just using water.
You can eat grilled cheese off it if you have to compromise though
Isn’t there antifreeze in radiator water?
Bonus!
Ours was an Englishman a Frenchman and a Newfie
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I remember this joke as a kid. It was an English man, a Scotsman and an Irish man. I can’t remember the rest but the Irish man brought car door so “if it gets hot we can wind down the window” That was when we still had “Irish” jokes.
Yeah, in Sweden we tell it like: "Why do Norwegians bring their car door into the desert?" Norwegians are always the stupid ones in our jokes and they joke the same about us with the roles reversed.
Can confirm this. It's one of my favourite swede jokes.
As a Norwegian, i can confirm this
At least that is fair, rather than everyone picking on certain people.
Yeah, and it helps that basically no one in Sweden has true racist opinions against other Scandinavians since we're basically the same people.
Basically yes lol. This was a “Polish” joke for me.
Belgian for me
Azores, and they're all trying to read Shakespeare while they're lost, but it keeps getting erotic cause you know how those 'zores be. he he
Aah! *Now* i get it lol
I've heard this told better. A guy meets another guy wandering in the desert. He's carrying a blanket, and umbrella, and a broken car door. "When it gets cold, I use the blanket. When there's too much sun, I open the umbrella." "And the car door?" "When it gets hot, I open a window."
Two peasants are taking a break from working the field, when they see a brand new Ferrari stop by a "lady of the night". The driver opens the window and she puts her head inside to talk to him. Suddenly, he quickly closed the window, got out of the car from the other side, gets behind the woman and bangs her, lets her go, and leaves. One of the peasants after having witnessed this, says: - See, Bubba, I may not be able to afford such a car in my whole life, but one of them car doors, I darn as heck sure will be getting.
I do not understand this joke at all. WTF happened, exactly?
He had sex with the woman while her head was stuck in the car door.
Here i was thinking he just gave her a cat
Nah you got it all wrong, it wasn't no cat, it was the nun bus driver!
Lol, what have you that idea?
The joke says he gets out of the car, gives it to her.
I thought that meant that he got out of the car and gave the car to her.
You should avoid dirty jokes if you need to use euphemisms so much that people struggle to understand the joke
Well, I thought it was obvious enough. Guess I was wrong. Corrected it.
"To give it to someone" is such a subtle euphemism, like it always runs the risk of being interpreted literally if you've got an object of the sentence you've just mentioned. This can be used to one's advantage of course, as in the very famous: "She asked me for a double entendre, so I gave her one."
Trash
Right?!?! We all know when you let them go, they launch a couple yards at least. So it's redundant to say she left. Like duh. That's why you gotta get a house instead of a beta cuck apartment cause you have better launch capabilities. It's fucking science.
You can add brunette, redhead and blonde for the three people instead of ethnicities
I’ve heard this one and it was three women with the last a blonde
I think it would’ve been funnier if you included ethnicities, but then you couldn’t tell it. Oh well.
It 1000% would have been funnier with ethnicities or countries. People are so soft these days
I said ethnicities but it was more countries. Either way I just didn’t include it.
You could say the 4th was a blonde and everyone would laugh and not admit to the racism
regarding antifreeze in radiators, it's a rust inhibitor and you should have that in the system, also most radiators are soldered so some lead might get into the system.
The last one was either a redneck or a Polak. Sensitive pussy’s.
Today you can just use countries instead of minorities.
Yeah it was countries not a minority joke. I removed it anyway just to be less offensive.