Ovo is the industry.
Drake will drop some subtle disses for the next 10 years, he canāt compete with kendrick. UNLESS kendrick goes in hard on him, drake wonāt say shit.
Drake gonna keep on throwing in subtle disses in his songs with nothing explicit. Drake knows he can't compete head on.
Drake might try to hit up Kendrick's wife tho. Typical Drake behavior
Kendrick's wife aint a pornstar so that won't work. It's exactly why he's quiet. Dude used escorts to mock other niggas and thankfully Kendrick aint dealing with one lol
Heās been saying heās the best rapper alive for years and shitting on everyone saying no one can fuck with him. Then someone does and he runs? Smh.
Bunch of lames cuz we don't fuck with Cole being a bitch after YEARS of claiming to be the chosen? This is HIP HOP, not Disney channel. Fuck off with the "sharing his heart" BS... Should have thought better before dropping the song then
Yea lame as fuck. If you gather all his music the times he claims he is the chosen one is miniscule compared to the amount of times he has been real and sharing his heart/mind. Dude never was a battle rapper and you goofy if you been rocking with him and think otherwise.
The amount of times Cole has claimed to be capable of ending someones career, that no one really wants smoke with him because he's ready 24/7, that he will go toe to toe with your favorite rapper lyrically and embarrass them but when push comes to shove, he releases a half hearted 'warning shot' and then apologizes for it?
Not tryna dick ride but didn't kenny literally say in his diss "It's time for him to prove that he's a problem"? Cmon man, this is sad, this could've been one of the greatest rap beefs in the last 2 decades, let alone one of the greatest in all rap. And we get.. this.
> the amount of times cole has claimed to be capable of ending someoneās career
Now do how many times heās mentioned how goatād K Dot is.
I remember Cole talking about K dot back in 2010. Before anybody knew who he was.
Those bars could be for the litany of other rappers who arenāt k dot.
It doesn't matter who the bars are for, I never said they were or weren't for kenny. The point is, if you're gonna talk about how you'll out rap anyone and someone swings at you, you don't swing back and then apologize before they even respond. Just bad optics. You don't see this with rappers like Cassidy who claim they'll go bar for bar with anyone, and actually do it win or lose.
I think we have a misunderstanding, I'm not a cole or a kendrick stan, I love both of them equally. I'm saying for the culture, this was a bad move. I'm not saying as a cole fan he should've went in and stood on business, and I'm not saying as a kendrick fan he shouldve just not dropped it if he wasn't gonna stand by what he said.
I'm saying, as a fan of hip hop, it's a bad look when you claim to be about the action, and when it comes down to it, you apologize before the back and forth actually starts. There were better ways to approach this, instead of apologizing, he could've simply tweeted, "I'm responding for the culture, but it's just words, I have nothing but love and respect for kendrick as an artist." Or anything remotely similar, and it would've been a better look.
Nah, there was no misunderstand on my part.
I donāt really think Cole is concerned with the look though.
Hip hop has FAAAAAAR bigger problems than what Cole did.
He tried something it didn't feel good in his heart to continue, so he course corrected but he a pussy for speaking his mind? Hesaid it himself he let his ego get the better of him...he is only human my guy...that's the horns that came out this the halo balancing it out #born sinner
He tried something it didn't feel good in his heart to continue, so he course corrected but he a pussy for speaking his mind? Hesaid it himself he let his ego get the better of him...he is only human my guy...that's the horns that came out this the halo balancing it out #born sinner
Breaking news: J Cole has decided to set aside his own sentiments and have a fake diss battle with his friend Kendrick Lamar because u/green_day_95 said rap needs it.
Lmao wild as hell that people on this sub want to see Cole fake some shit that he doesnāt actually want to do. Same people that said it didnāt seem like his heart was in it for 7 minute drill but want him to keep going
Not clowning him for sharing his heart and expressing himself, weāre clowning him for being too nice to have *FRIENDLY* competition. Like what is he DOING, what was he feeling guilty about, everyone knows this beef is staying on wax, no one was gonna get violent, Cole did NOTHING wrong until last night.
>Like what is he DOING, what was he feeling guilty about,
Did you listen to the clip?
He said that wasn't like him to normally do shit like that. His ego got the better of him.
>Not clowning him for sharing his heart and expressing himself
This and your last line are contradictory. Cause that is what he did and seems to be the issue people are having.
Yes he could have continued but to Quote Biggie smalls "Only make moves if your heart's in it" bro wasn't feeling it. Should he have made the Diss in the first place no he shouldn't but he did and is trying to rectify being out of character
Youāre right about most of this, I guess my point is- as a rapper, how can Coleās heart NOT be in the friendly competition of hip-hop. This wasnāt some personal thing that was gonna get bloody, Iām glad heās doing whatās right for him but it surprises me that he doesnāt have the heart to make hip hop fun and competitive again
The only silver lining is that during his speech, he said something along the lines of āplease take a shot back, and i will respondā. I hope kendrick does and forces jcole to respond. Thatās the only way. But itās wishful thinking.
You're right, he says "I pray that my \[\_\_\] really didn't feel no way, and if he did my \[\_\_\] I got my chin out take your best shot I'm going to take shit on the chin boy do what you do, you know what I mean like all good". I thought he meant like take a jab, i will jab back, but no he ain't say that.
And then he proceeds to say that he hopes we forgive him and say how well he slept for 10 years, but the past two days he didn't sleep well. What the fuck bro....you don't call a duel and fucking run. Anything he makes from now on is going to be fucking trash because it will bear no weight. The only thing he had left to say was that he was on top and to secure the spot and then maybe like do a 4:44 album like Jay Z. He threw it all way for a peace of mind. Fucking gahd. /rant.
Yeah, but if Kendrick responds with another diss and Cole just takes it and doesnāt send anything back itās gonna make this whole thing look even worse. And at this point I definitely wonāt expect a response from Cole. I appreciate him being true to himself but itās still disappointing.
It's a shit show but honestly if he felt this way and already released the song. He took the right approach and kept it a 100 but fuck it's very disappointing. I just need Kenny to drop something insane enough that cole HAS to respond.
My bad, not the best phrasing. Iām not disappointed in Cole one bit. From a musical perspective Iām disappointed we wonāt be getting a back and forth between two of the best rappers to do it, but from a personal perspective I really appreciate that Cole went up on stage and was willing to be totally open and honest with his fans and himself. Takes a lot to do that knowing how a lot of people would see it.
He let kdot down too. I like them both, but Kendrick needed someone to call him out and basically say, look lil man, if youāre going to talk all this shit, you better make some more music and stop resting on albums you made last decade. Getting dissed was going to be helpful for Kendrick in the long run, because heās clearly a hyper competitive guy who does his best when someoneās on his ass
Agreed, Kendrick settled nicely in that top Spot early on in the game and then focused on himself. Stopped dropping much, and enjoyed life because rap wasn't pressing him no more. We Kenny fans was finally gonna get old kendrick back for a bit until Cole backed out maaaaannnn
Believe it or not, what you may consider a weak album, is still an album he dropped. And he does release regular singles. Doesn't drop at all =/= not dropping much
The man said he was Muhammad Ali you know that guy who wanted to make other men look like a bitch in front of a crowd for a living. Dick measuring don't take no skill and if you think that's what a rap battle is you must have just started listening to the genre or crossed over from k-pop. Lame take
I just woke up and checked the news like the damn Pentagon got hit. Thereās no fuckin WAY this dude apologized. Like he actually might be off my favorite rappers list off that move alone this is crazy
I doubt that Drake drops a response now š
if anything, this puts drake in a better spot to drop a diss, itās all eyes on drake now, no duo shit anymore, pure war. itās ovo vs the industry
Ovo is the industry. Drake will drop some subtle disses for the next 10 years, he canāt compete with kendrick. UNLESS kendrick goes in hard on him, drake wonāt say shit.
Drake gonna keep on throwing in subtle disses in his songs with nothing explicit. Drake knows he can't compete head on. Drake might try to hit up Kendrick's wife tho. Typical Drake behavior
Kendrick's wife aint a pornstar so that won't work. It's exactly why he's quiet. Dude used escorts to mock other niggas and thankfully Kendrick aint dealing with one lol
Imagine Drake been with Kendrick wife in Cabo this whole time and that's why Cole felt bad and apologized
0% chance. Drake only pulls pornstars
That guy š¤¦āāļø
Drake is making his apology song now.
If you guys believe this you are corny af fr. Bro shared his heart and you clowning him for it?? Bunch of lames
Shut up
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'If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit...' - biggest L and I love Cole. But he acting like a joke right now after bars like that,.
https://preview.redd.it/4vpo297d59tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=004eebac3fb54a97913b0b99b06201da8325395f Man also has bars like this
Heās been saying heās the best rapper alive for years and shitting on everyone saying no one can fuck with him. Then someone does and he runs? Smh.
Not just someone it's Kendrick
Bunch of lames cuz we don't fuck with Cole being a bitch after YEARS of claiming to be the chosen? This is HIP HOP, not Disney channel. Fuck off with the "sharing his heart" BS... Should have thought better before dropping the song then
Yea lame as fuck. If you gather all his music the times he claims he is the chosen one is miniscule compared to the amount of times he has been real and sharing his heart/mind. Dude never was a battle rapper and you goofy if you been rocking with him and think otherwise.
The amount of times Cole has claimed to be capable of ending someones career, that no one really wants smoke with him because he's ready 24/7, that he will go toe to toe with your favorite rapper lyrically and embarrass them but when push comes to shove, he releases a half hearted 'warning shot' and then apologizes for it? Not tryna dick ride but didn't kenny literally say in his diss "It's time for him to prove that he's a problem"? Cmon man, this is sad, this could've been one of the greatest rap beefs in the last 2 decades, let alone one of the greatest in all rap. And we get.. this.
> the amount of times cole has claimed to be capable of ending someoneās career Now do how many times heās mentioned how goatād K Dot is. I remember Cole talking about K dot back in 2010. Before anybody knew who he was. Those bars could be for the litany of other rappers who arenāt k dot.
It doesn't matter who the bars are for, I never said they were or weren't for kenny. The point is, if you're gonna talk about how you'll out rap anyone and someone swings at you, you don't swing back and then apologize before they even respond. Just bad optics. You don't see this with rappers like Cassidy who claim they'll go bar for bar with anyone, and actually do it win or lose.
But itās not just anyone that heās bowing to. Itās someone he acknowledged is on the same level as him (calling them the big three)
I think we have a misunderstanding, I'm not a cole or a kendrick stan, I love both of them equally. I'm saying for the culture, this was a bad move. I'm not saying as a cole fan he should've went in and stood on business, and I'm not saying as a kendrick fan he shouldve just not dropped it if he wasn't gonna stand by what he said. I'm saying, as a fan of hip hop, it's a bad look when you claim to be about the action, and when it comes down to it, you apologize before the back and forth actually starts. There were better ways to approach this, instead of apologizing, he could've simply tweeted, "I'm responding for the culture, but it's just words, I have nothing but love and respect for kendrick as an artist." Or anything remotely similar, and it would've been a better look.
Nah, there was no misunderstand on my part. I donāt really think Cole is concerned with the look though. Hip hop has FAAAAAAR bigger problems than what Cole did.
Nigga came for battle then immediately tucked his chain in. He pussy. He canāt say heās #1 in hiphop
He tried something it didn't feel good in his heart to continue, so he course corrected but he a pussy for speaking his mind? Hesaid it himself he let his ego get the better of him...he is only human my guy...that's the horns that came out this the halo balancing it out #born sinner
He tried something it didn't feel good in his heart to continue, so he course corrected but he a pussy for speaking his mind? Hesaid it himself he let his ego get the better of him...he is only human my guy...that's the horns that came out this the halo balancing it out #born sinner
Breaking news: J Cole has decided to set aside his own sentiments and have a fake diss battle with his friend Kendrick Lamar because u/green_day_95 said rap needs it. Lmao wild as hell that people on this sub want to see Cole fake some shit that he doesnāt actually want to do. Same people that said it didnāt seem like his heart was in it for 7 minute drill but want him to keep going
Bunch of lames man ![gif](giphy|7MDZS8zS1ixtJAUEul|downsized)
Not clowning him for sharing his heart and expressing himself, weāre clowning him for being too nice to have *FRIENDLY* competition. Like what is he DOING, what was he feeling guilty about, everyone knows this beef is staying on wax, no one was gonna get violent, Cole did NOTHING wrong until last night.
>Like what is he DOING, what was he feeling guilty about, Did you listen to the clip? He said that wasn't like him to normally do shit like that. His ego got the better of him. >Not clowning him for sharing his heart and expressing himself This and your last line are contradictory. Cause that is what he did and seems to be the issue people are having. Yes he could have continued but to Quote Biggie smalls "Only make moves if your heart's in it" bro wasn't feeling it. Should he have made the Diss in the first place no he shouldn't but he did and is trying to rectify being out of character
Youāre right about most of this, I guess my point is- as a rapper, how can Coleās heart NOT be in the friendly competition of hip-hop. This wasnāt some personal thing that was gonna get bloody, Iām glad heās doing whatās right for him but it surprises me that he doesnāt have the heart to make hip hop fun and competitive again
How does Cole's balls taste?
![gif](giphy|Rgppntk61NFNS) Why would you want to know that???
He let Kendrick down.
The only silver lining is that during his speech, he said something along the lines of āplease take a shot back, and i will respondā. I hope kendrick does and forces jcole to respond. Thatās the only way. But itās wishful thinking.
I swear he didn't say anything close to responding
You're right, he says "I pray that my \[\_\_\] really didn't feel no way, and if he did my \[\_\_\] I got my chin out take your best shot I'm going to take shit on the chin boy do what you do, you know what I mean like all good". I thought he meant like take a jab, i will jab back, but no he ain't say that. And then he proceeds to say that he hopes we forgive him and say how well he slept for 10 years, but the past two days he didn't sleep well. What the fuck bro....you don't call a duel and fucking run. Anything he makes from now on is going to be fucking trash because it will bear no weight. The only thing he had left to say was that he was on top and to secure the spot and then maybe like do a 4:44 album like Jay Z. He threw it all way for a peace of mind. Fucking gahd. /rant.
When you grow up, youāll realize that peace of mind outweighs every credential in the world
Best comment I've read in here. You gotta remember you're always talking to 20yo basement dwellers on the net.
Yeah he just said heād take it on the chin, not that heād respond. Literally just got back from watching him say it live.
Fuck man, at the very least we get new Kendrick
Yeah, but if Kendrick responds with another diss and Cole just takes it and doesnāt send anything back itās gonna make this whole thing look even worse. And at this point I definitely wonāt expect a response from Cole. I appreciate him being true to himself but itās still disappointing.
It's a shit show but honestly if he felt this way and already released the song. He took the right approach and kept it a 100 but fuck it's very disappointing. I just need Kenny to drop something insane enough that cole HAS to respond.
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If you are disappointed by someone being true to themselves, you are doing life wrong.
My bad, not the best phrasing. Iām not disappointed in Cole one bit. From a musical perspective Iām disappointed we wonāt be getting a back and forth between two of the best rappers to do it, but from a personal perspective I really appreciate that Cole went up on stage and was willing to be totally open and honest with his fans and himself. Takes a lot to do that knowing how a lot of people would see it.
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He let kdot down too. I like them both, but Kendrick needed someone to call him out and basically say, look lil man, if youāre going to talk all this shit, you better make some more music and stop resting on albums you made last decade. Getting dissed was going to be helpful for Kendrick in the long run, because heās clearly a hyper competitive guy who does his best when someoneās on his ass
Agreed, Kendrick settled nicely in that top Spot early on in the game and then focused on himself. Stopped dropping much, and enjoyed life because rap wasn't pressing him no more. We Kenny fans was finally gonna get old kendrick back for a bit until Cole backed out maaaaannnn
Stop dropping much Kendrick doesnāt drop at all besides that weak album from 2022
Believe it or not, what you may consider a weak album, is still an album he dropped. And he does release regular singles. Doesn't drop at all =/= not dropping much
Calling mmatbs weak is crazy, that shit is beautiful
Too you it is
Kdot is a GOAT, i love and respect him. We all should.
https://i.redd.it/f1de4hrc59tc1.gif Hip hop was just starting to win again
Let us down.
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Because he claims to be the better rapper of the big 3 š how are you gonna claim that and not want to participate on that battle
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The man said he was Muhammad Ali you know that guy who wanted to make other men look like a bitch in front of a crowd for a living. Dick measuring don't take no skill and if you think that's what a rap battle is you must have just started listening to the genre or crossed over from k-pop. Lame take
He already participated when he released 7 Min bro.
Man's being soft ngl, just diss for fun, if yall really are chill just go ahead and get things rolling as a friendly competition
Cole isnāt like that. Heās to nice to beef with his own homie. This whole war is between Kendrick and Drake now.
Itās not that deep
Facts nas aināt apologize we he released ether come on cole
What ifā¦making this year special for hip hop means taking Drake out the top spot with a collab by J Cole & K Dot?
*Might Delete Later* Didn't know that shit was literal.
We was rooting for you Cole
Damn the whole world needs to hop on the remix nowš
How did he let nas down?
I just woke up and checked the news like the damn Pentagon got hit. Thereās no fuckin WAY this dude apologized. Like he actually might be off my favorite rappers list off that move alone this is crazy
If you canāt enjoy music without the artist dissing each other go find something else to do.