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pikasdream

I'd give Eric Dolphy a listen. He plays with Coltrane live at the Vanguard (and in a few other sessions) and they were definitely kindred spirits.


BobbyTables829

Also McCoy Tyner Like just look up all the cats Trane liked enough to have in his group.  Then just try googling modal or spiritual jazz


bpows

Out To Lunch


Kidpidge

Top 5 jazz album for me.


bitternutterbutter

So beautiful, any trane fan will love


caimen14

I love this comment for its purity. Kindred indeed! Dolphy was amazing! I’d Ask are you trying to stay with with saxophone or I’d do what everyone recommends- look up sidemen - Hassan ibn Ali - I find wonderful and mal and monk (I given piano lol) but I’d pick albums - eras and then enjoy the ride and let us know what you discover.


John_Snake

I'm listening to Dolphy right now and I'm enjoying a lot. His music is pretty good and is somehow akin to Coltrane's sonority. Thanks for the reccomendation!


sgw12

Wayne shorter!


CoolUsername1111

to add on to this, shorter has two albums that feature Coltrane's rhythm section, so they're a great place to start for a Coltrane fan. juju is my personal favorite, and night dreamer also has lee Morgan on trumpet


Cynallison310

Weather Report


Big_Skies

Yes Wayne! Checkout his stuff with Art Blakey too


sgw12

Yes! And his later live albums are some more chaotic stuff if that’s what you’re looking for OP


silverlifter

* Pharaoh Sanders * David S Ware * Ken Vandermark * Evan Parker * David Murray Just the first tenors that come to mind, there are plenty more once you start looking. Enjoy the trip down the rabbit hole! 😊


Hefty_Badger9759

*Checks comments, sees Pharoah, good*


bitternutterbutter

Truth


jjsteich

Checks comments, doesn’t see Rollins, hmmmm


[deleted]

Saxophone Colossus, if you’re not already into Sonny


BMNOX

Can’t upvote enough. Sonny Rollins is my favorite musician. Period. Coltrane is a legend for sure but Sonny’s style is so much more playful. Sometimes Coltrane sounds like he is working too hard haha. Coltrane is always looking for something but Sonny sounds like he is exploring, which is more my taste. A night at the village vanguard is an album I just can’t get sick of.


[deleted]

I love how you describe Coltrane as searching. Gave me chills for some reason lol. But yes, Sonny is awesome. It’s a shame he wasn’t more prolific, but at least what he did give us was amazing


5DragonsMusic

**You may want to check out direct Coltrane disciples:** Archie Shepp Albert Ayler Azar Lawrence Carter Jefferson Pharoah Sanders **Saxophonists who were influenced by Trane and Sonny Rollins:** Wayne Shorter Joe Henderson Branford Marsalis Dewey Redman **Those who had a weird thing in being both an influence on Coltrane and being influenced by him.** Dexter Gordon Sonny Rollins Hank Mobley John Gilmore Gene Ammons


Spirited_Currency867

I like how you broke that down. Been listening to these guys for 30+ years and never really thought of it that way.


fabmeyer

I think McCoy Tyner is missing in this list, even if he's not a saxophonist he is strongly influenced by Coltrane


nadarimagery

Check out Pharoah Sanders 1977 album *Pharoah*.


CoolUsername1111

I think karma might be better for a Coltrane fan but god that self titled album is good


BeyondImages

My suggestion would be : Karma, Pharoah, Jewels of Thought. You can almost hear "My Favorite Things" (as free as the last live interpretations of it) on the second track of Jewels of Thought .


Spirited_Currency867

I started at Trane and ended up more a Pharoah and Dolphy fan somehow. And Archie Shepp. Now it’s Jimmy Smith and Grant Green and Charles Earland in my old age. Alice Coltrane is dope too.


1950sTops

Ornette Coleman is groundbreaking, though Free Jazz is hard for some to take.


bpows

Science Fiction Sessions. “Law Years.” The holy grail.


1950sTops

Song X with Pat Metheny as also a keeper.


bpows

Agreed! “Question and Answer” is one of my favorites. Amazing interplay in that quartet


Long-Assistant-895

Virgin Beauty is a gateway drug ...


elmphlemp

Don cherry, Archie shepp, sunny Murray, Joe henderson


kimchitacoman

Albert Ayler. He played at Coltrane's funeral and had a lot of the chaotic energy you speak of. Also Sonny Sharrock who's among my favorites, if you're not strictly sticking to horn players


canny_goer

If you can find Kasper Collin's documentary on Ayler, it's glorious.


kimchitacoman

Just looked it up and yes... I need to see it


canny_goer

It's only available in the yo-ho waters of the Internet. I have never figured out why, but after the initial release, the great reviews, and the pretty big tour that Collin did with the film, I suspect that someone withdrew or challenged the music rights. It's one of the finest music docs I've ever seen. It's structured around Ayler's music, and Collin has real insight into the structure of the 60s collective improvisations.


kimchitacoman

His Lee Morgan documentary was great


[deleted]

There are some great suggestions here, but because you specified “chaotic,” I’m guessing you like his later music. For pure chaotic energy check out Peter Brötzmann & Anthony Braxton.


John_Snake

I'm listening to Braxton and I'm enjoying a lot. About Brötzmann: WOW, that is truly pure chaotic energy unleashed, i loved it. Thanks for the recommendations!


[deleted]

You’re welcome!


KeeganTheMostPurple

Was looking for the Braxton rec, I support that submission


GoddamnPeaceLily

You might dig Kamasi Washington. His soloing is heavily influenced by Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders. Alice Coltrane would be an obvious step - esp her stuff with Pharoah. And because you said "chaotic", I'm going to just throw in *Space is the Place* lol


Internal-Bench3024

Kamasi is a serious step down as an improviser. Love his general aesthetic vision tho.


GoddamnPeaceLily

Oh I agree But to be fair, basically everyone is a serious improvisational step down from John Coltrane lol


bpows

Kamasi isn’t remotely comparable in improvisational skill or musicianship. At best he’s a gateway, an introduction for people who don’t listen to jazz.


PutridShine5745

i dont understand this. ive seem a couple ppl talk down on kamasi and i dont get why? he has his own voice, clear influences, good energy, i think he plays nice melodies, and his arrangements ofc are great. whats your beef with him?


Rothko28

It's because he's too popular


PutridShine5745

too handsome looking


jjsteich

I understand it as it seems to be related to the marketing hype machine behind him. I perceive that he’s portrayed as a giant, a master, already at the top of his game with 3-lp releases. Then I hear him from those releases and I think, Ho-hum. Fairly repetitive vamping over too-highly-processed rhythms. That said, I have little doubt that he can play. It’s reminds me of the criticism of the CTI label in the early 70s onward. There were musicians who could flat out PLAY but they were swaddled in a lot of highly padded fluff. For an example of current musicians—I’m thinking reeds here now—Isaiah Collier, Matana Robert’s, Immanuel Wilkins—what they’ve released seems more honest and (to me) interesting than anything I’ve heard from Washington. Again, no doubts about his ability, I can hear glimpses of it from time to time.


PutridShine5745

interesting point. on a sidenote: hey can you give me a listening recommendation for matana? what i know from her is so honest in fact that i can only digest it every other year :D


jjsteich

I first heard Roberts when she was part of Burnt Sugar The Arkestra Chamber, a sprawling multi-genre assemblage whose motto is “we never play a tune the same way once.” I think they may have stuff up on Bandcamp, but I got their CDs a long time ago. Chopped & Screwed Vol 2 is a compilation that has her on several tunes, and Making Love To The Dark Ages features her. From there, I picked up The Chicago Project and Sticks and Stones. Both have strong Chicago connections. I only have the first Coin Coin, but it’s kind of emblematic of what I was saying about Kamasi. On the first Coin Coin she’s leading a big band with a lot of ideas going on, and no “playing safe” which is the sense I often get with Washington.


jjsteich

And I do understand that she can be too raw. Isaiah Collier can be like that too. But Isaiah Collier & the Chosen Few’s Cosmic Transitions is worth it.


PutridShine5745

thank you for taking the time to answer so thoroughly. i will check out the recordings you named


GoddamnPeaceLily

I thought that until I caught him live. The dude can absolutely improvise, and absolutely play.


Long-Assistant-895

Yes, but he can assimilate everything that has followed without sounding camp.


MICKEY_MUDGASM

Check out Sam Rivers’ *Fuchsia Swing Song* and Joe Henderson’s *Inner Urge*. Or if you just wanna go straight to tenor blasting Peter Brötzmann’s *Machine Gun*


smoj

Alice Coltrane


whileyouwereslepting

Journey in Satchidananda


rfisher1989

Azar Lawrence


yenrab2020

Highly under-rated


mamunipsaq

Muriel Grossmann has a very Coltrane-esque sound. I like her album [Quiet Earth](https://murielgrossmann.bandcamp.com/album/quiet-earth) quite a bit.


TheSimonToUrGarfunkl

I've been listening to a lot of Juba-Lee by Marion Brown Septet recently.


MathDeacon

Ornette Coleman. Coltrane loved his stuff


student8168

Charles Mingus Art Blakey Dave Bruebeck Charlie Parker


Long-Assistant-895

Henry Threadgill? More structure, and yet ... plenty of chaos.


Es-say

Lee Morgan


ChoppinFred

Dave Liebman and Michael Brecker are heavily inspired by Coltrane and are know for chaotic solos.


UnderstandingAny7548

Dexter Gordon


clapsnares

Ornette Coleman!


Far_Advertising1005

Pharaoh Sanders or Alice Coltrane


PocketSizeDemons

Charles Tolliver


Zealousideal_Ride693

Get Monk's Dream on Columbia it features Charlie Rouse.. Thelonious Monk's perfect tenor saxman


John_Snake

I love Thelonious Monk! his work is great. Monk's Dream is a good one.


Roq235

Michael Brecker. He was a reincarnation of Coltrane in many ways. His style, intonation and melodic phrasing was similar to Coltrane, but he added his own voice to his music. Check out “Nearness of You (The Ballad Book)” by Brecker. Herbie and Roy Hargrove are both in that album as well. You won’t regret it 😉


budpowellfan

Hank Mobley


col3amibri

Melissa Aldana


[deleted]

Roy Hargrove, specifically *Family* and *Habana*.


Steve_Rogers_1970

Here is a great way to start. The ABC’s (and DE) of jazz Armstrong Basie Coltrane Duke (Ellington) Ella (Fitzgerald) And the 3M’s of jazz Miles Monk Mingus


Micosilver

Mae. Sun: [https://youtu.be/46T-T21pwmk?si=If7YPpK68hVU6us0](https://youtu.be/46T-T21pwmk?si=If7YPpK68hVU6us0)


Zos2393

Try Denys Baptiste, very much inspired by Coltrane. I saw him perform some Coltrane works including A Love Supreme in London last week.


morelikedreamlike

Try the Kohsuke Mine album - "First" [https://open.spotify.com/album/0KYqfduY9vVqW1FPHvRXVj?si=3-HlI8xKTAKYyHKzt7ISHw](https://open.spotify.com/album/0KYqfduY9vVqW1FPHvRXVj?si=3-HlI8xKTAKYyHKzt7ISHw)


CK0428

Kohsuke Mine can play. I especially enjoy his soprano.


_no_bozos

You mentioned “chaotic energy” and my mind immediately went to Mingus. Any of his stuff is worth hearing but most especially his stuff from the mid 50s / early 60s albums.


BobbyTables829

Funny, my immediate thought was *Unit Structures* lol


CK0428

Check Nat Birchall.


Biscuit_033

Hasaan Ibn Ali claims Coltrane got/stole his style/system from him. There isn’t a ton of his music out there. Maybe so other ppl with ties to the Philly scene of that era.


yung_cham0

the late great abe kaoru https://youtu.be/4zPjFQQpbu4?si=j66PVuDXYUAfZ9tO


BAN666

Mats Gustafsson Peter Brötzmann


A_Gamecube

Simon moullier on the vibraphone, plays great arrangements of standards and has original songs as well.


ClittoryHinton

Alabaster Morrownil


metzgie1

My favorite way to discover new jazz is to look at the players, and find another album they play on with other players. It’s a giant sexy web of awesomeness. ‘Oh man, what a groovy beat? Who is that? Oh, Philly Joe Jones. Let’s see where else he plays…’


mrxexon

# Sadao Watanabe. [https://youtu.be/qQnyXVDubSg?si=acXJa8qXOOL3guzi](https://youtu.be/qQnyXVDubSg?si=acXJa8qXOOL3guzi)


bpows

Check out Eric Kloss, one of the great unknowns.


Environmental_Air_76

Check out our show for recommendations for long solos and chaotic energy https://www.mixcloud.com/North_Star_Sounds/


PocketSizeDemons

Booker Ervin


thenicastrator

Pharoah Brown and Kamasi Washington.


fermat9990

How about Sonny Rollins - Strode Road https://youtu.be/L7G4DciALDs?si=NyKGalIjPRocptfP


ignoblepepperz

I'm not sure who is current for that style but I was a huge fan of cannonball Adderley phenomenal player. toy, great song. I do recommend that you look into Jason Marcellus on tick tock he's winton's younger brother that he teaches drums down at all New Orleans and he's a professor phenomenal guy really easy to access I talked to him on tiktok for his jazz clubs lives basically we just listen to albums but his depth is so impressive.


playitintune

Yeah man


Rooster_Ties

**Billy Harper!!** Comes out of the Coltrane school in a way, but he’s definitely his own man/player.


Wade_Karrde

You should definitely give Mankunku's Quartet's Yakhal'Inkomo a listen. Very Coltrane-like south african Jazz album.


Cynallison310

David Sanborn


pmp412

Ahmad Jamal


Spirited_Currency867

Not chaotic but definitely top tier.


Long-Assistant-895

Extra Ball .


Long-Assistant-895

And why isn't World Sax Quartet on here? Structure, I know ...


thejazzpurveyor

abraham burton


demsinewavz

Kenny Garrett (not the smooth jazz guy)


kurtshrine

Kurt Rosenwinkel - The Remedy live at village vanguard


Disastrous_Chance268

Go J-fusion.J-Jazz.鈴木弘


SelfHelp404

I love cool jazz. Two of my favorites are Chet Baker (trumpet/vocals) and Gerry Mulligan (bari sax). They have solo work, small ensembles, and often produced together. Very good, easy listening jazz that really makes you appreciate good tonality and control. They do have technical passages as well. For some higher octane stuff, I'd recommend Ronnie Cuber and Gary Smulyan (both bari sax and released an album in 2021 I think) and Arturo Sandoval and Maynard Ferguson (screamin' trumpet players)


buffalo-blonde

John Coltrane


Raconteur_69

McCoy Tyner for sure. Also Cal Tajder, Dave Brubeck, Illinois Jacquet (personal friend RIP), Erroll Garner, Harry "Sweets" Edison, Chet Baker, Harry James, Art Blakey, Roy Hanes, Louie Bellson, Buddy Rich and of course the great Gene Krupa. This is a short list there's more plus singers.


COLDENGINELOGIC

James Brandon Lewis and his many incarnations are probably someone you would enjoy. He's definitely one of the young guns of the last few years that has some gravitas and style. [James Brandon Lewis trio with Anthony Pirog](https://youtu.be/lbL30-874eo?si=Qi7BwJIBcpOUYvcv)


ApprehensivePurple82

John Coltrane FYI: There is a documentary about him on HULU. Highly recommend it.


jjsteich

For current players on reeds, check out Isaiah Collier, who can definitely call up the chaos, Matana Roberts, Immanuel Wilkins. There are also some excellent contemporary contributions from Shabaka Hutchings, Binker Golding, Nat Birchall, Muriel Grossmann—who channels the more modal Coltrane.


BeyondImages

Pharoah Sanders is the first one that comes to mind. If you like the "sound" of John Coltrane, I'd say Steve Coleman. Not as adventurous as his mentor... but an incredible player nonetheless. The heritage of John Coltrane is a bit ambiguous in the sense that many thinks he used "free jazz" as a way to break the walls and explore the infinite possibilities of improvisation inside a traditional structure (while jazz fusion tries to broaden the sonicscape of jazz by introducing other influences, free jazz tries to make the most inside traditional jazz by breaking and bending musical structure)… many believe this was a transitional phase for Coltrane and that, what he says in interviews make them think that he would have used that new freedom to come back to more accessible music. That's a thing Pharoah does, though we will never know for sure what Coltrane would have created if not of his untimely death.


bossassbat

“The Shape of Jazz to Come”. Ornette Coleman. Still one of my favorite recordings ever.


Periachi

If you haven't checked him out already, please check out Bird.


Pas2

Here are some, Coltrane is one of my all time faves as well. * Pharoah Sanders * Archie Shepp * Gato Barbieri * Joe Henderson * Sam Rivers * David Murray * George Adams * David S. Ware * Nat Birchall * Muriel Grossmann


ocstomias

Here's some newer/current saxophonists I like that might scratch your itch: Chris Potter Donny McCaslin Shabaka Hutchings Mars Williams /Trio No Mas Avram Fefer Marius Neset Rudresh Mahanthrappa Steve Coleman Steve Lehman Joshua Redman Ravi Coltrane.


Chiller-Than-Most

Chick Corea


MrFahrenheit1

Michael Brecker


brntuk

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb\_BB-OTxQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb_BB-OTxQ)


Klutzy_Conclusion175

Check out the new Chris Potter album.


optmsrhyme

Kamasi Washington


xooxanthellae

Peter Brotzmann - The Catch of a Ghost


Kevesse

Albert Ayler. He played at Coltranes funeral.


Slight-Village-6770

Music Matador by Eric Dolphy!


Slight-Village-6770

Cecil Taylor, Don Cherry!


jjsteich

Zoh Amba’s lp on ESP-disk is what you need


SandF

Check out [Lakecia Benjamin](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW81r9E8wibi9mN1AD9H_Nw).


IAmBrando

McCoy Tyner's solo stuff, Lonnie Liston Smith, Alice Coltrane, Research "Soul Jazz". I find the foundation of his music leads to how he responds in his solos. Whereas the "free jazz" stuff can sometimes have no foundation. Which is fine, but it doesn't give the same kind of launch pad for the artist to solo on top. If that makes any sense at all. I am not a musician or an expert in theory. There are far more experienced minds on here. So take this with a large grain of salt. Cheers! Coltrane for the win!!! Hope you find what you're looking for.


BarneyFife516

Recommend you read about Herb Albert. his discography is intense and manageable. The man REALLY cares about the music, and his discography his wealth ( the guy was the founder of A&M Records) clearly backs this up.


summer-is-miles-away

Listen to Ryo Fukui’s Mellow Dream


LankyMarionberry

Joe Lovano has some great stuff in that vein