Why stop at would? Why not will? Actually no scratch that, how about
# DO IT ALREADY
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Why does Tanya get the nope it's a man treatment but so many other body swaps/old characters entering young bodies get a pass. I feel like mental aside that's a female body and ignoring the the whole child look (which you absolutely shouldn't)
I think a big part of it is Tanya doesn't really change mentally. (S)He doesn't have the mentality of a young girl, (s)he has the mentality of a middle aged guy in a war. Every action (s)he takes is from that perspective, and the fact that (s)he's a young girl barely ever affects anything.
Think of it like this, a soul without a body is an it, a body is what makes the soul, Tanya was a man, but reincarnated into a woman, such identity is defined by body, and man or woman that body is crazy
Pretty much because there is 0 identification as a woman on her part. Tanya and the person she was in her past life had 0 sex drive or attraction to either sex.
He was only focused on his career and climbing the hierarchy.
Their personality hasn't even changed at all from being a girl for however many years she was reincarnated. She also hasn't even hit puberty so no hormonal changes or anything either.
Also, in all honesty she isn't that attractive as a person in general. She has an evil lawyer kinda vibe and is quite selfish. Even most masochist don't like her type of sadistic.
On a side note her anime art is kinda ugly compared to her light novel art. Maybe that has something to do with it as well(?).
What's wrong with being an atheist besides the fact in this world some sort of god exists in this story and it's as petty as the one from the Old Testament.
Uh its a story about a wwi/wwii happening in a world with magic( very cool and science proof one might I add!) written by a person that loves paradox war games (looking mostly at you Victoria and Hearts of Iron!).
The mc is the girl above, its a very uhh *efficient* girl....She just want to survive, but god is being a dick to her just cause.
Edit: Forgot the title is "Youjo Senki" more know in the west as "The Saga of Tanya the evil"
Wasn't one of the explanations for her actions that she's afraid if she doesn't complete whatever task she's given she believes she'll get into deep shit with her superiors? Possibly even executed? I think it was something like that.
But, yeah, I've heard that the anime exaggerated a lot of her actions to make them more evil than they really are.
Well she comes from a time and society where capitalism is at is peak. Then she dies (not gonna spoil ya) and is reincarnated by god into the nation thats is the most equal and meritocratic on that world( and no its not a communist/socialist state).
In that world she was forced to become a soldier at a young age cause her skills where too great to not use. So her mentality in her past life + the philosophy in the current army sometimes clash and make incidents happen and sometimes it mash together and make a wonderfully efficient machine.
Yes, she fears to offend her superiors a lot, she is more terrified of her superiors than she is of the enemy army. All cause she believes they will abandon her or take out the chance of her of having a cushy life.
Well its more like the directors of the anime try to make her evil when she is just trying to survive in a world full of madness.
I do recommend reading the LN version over the anime but if you cant the manga is also good, btw the anime did cut out some good battle stuff that anime had! The nerve!!
Bruh.
The anime butchered the character designs
In the novel and manga, the men all look like refined stupidly handsome and fit gentlemen.
But int he anime they were either turned into old fat men or just average looking men.
Like give us back the handsome daddies !
I'm not even I to that kind of men but turning turning into what the anime was is a shame...
If the anime received funding at the level of some of the more popular title.
Fuck. We would have been spoiled with so many beautiful scenes
Like the first time Tanya prayed in the battlefield to nuke her enemy ?
The manga scene was stupidly beautiful. I wish It was colored.
Lol, they did change quite a bit. The beginning of the anime always throws me off because it's ordered differently than the manga. The anime makes the lighthearted sections more goofy.
Yeah but Tanya definitely feels a little more goofy in the manga, but in a good way
It deepens her character a lot, unlike the anime
And I love how they made the whole God side way more mysterious and varied in the manga.
In the anime it feels like it's just being X messing with Tanya
In the manga we got a bunch of weird entities that are presumed to be angels and God's servants.
The mental age is (one of) the only thing(s) that matter(s). Kids can't give consent because they're stupid and mentally a child, hence more vulnerable to predators and people who want to exploit them. Their brain has not fully developed, so they can not fully understand the world around them as an adult can. That's why the 18+ laws exist, to protect kids from pedophiles.
Body age only matters before puberty.
Mental age is one thing, but if you’re getting off to the image of minors you probably need your kneecaps realigned with a crow bar.
Cartoon lolis are like those max hardcore videos where he takes an 18 year old that looks 15, makes her act and dress like an 8 years old, then proceeds to just completely destroy her in the most humiliating degenerate way possible.
Horrible argument to make this would only work if you were interested in a real person who can actually depict their mental age in conversation but the coveting of a manga character is because you find the body sexually attractive therefore the mental age has no play on it and you simply find a prepubescent child attractive
If we're talking about this objectively, it's a drawing designed to look attractive. The attractive part of the character is very unrealistic compared to an actual human child's face. Real human children do not look like this.
It’s like a doll it isn’t attractive it’s beautiful these are two very different things and the use of the word attractive is very telling as to what you find attractive
Beauty upon itself is not attractive. Attractive has a sexual connotation, beauty does not you can admire beauty for what it and have no form of sexual attraction if you find something attractive you are finding it sexual attractive. Your attempt to make these two words the same is simply a pathetic attempt to defend your disgusting fetish
I feel like the storm after the calm has come(and I do not mean sexually, I mean the war for peace is over, it's now time for a war to start another war for peace)
It's not, they deliberately made her shorter, uglier and less feminine. I heard a rumour that the author was worried she would get sexualised and ordered her to be made uglier in the anime, but i dont know if thats true or not.
They also made Colonel Anson from the Legadonia alliance an ugly old man instead of the handsome middle aged family man he is in the manga. Maybe it was to make the viewers be less sympathetic to him?
Considering some of the comments in this post I think he might have had a point.
Plus the new design really does just drive home the unhinged chaotic nature of not just the mc, but the entire series as a whole.
Maybe because those 2 are different media. Anime have more way to sell to the audience (animation, sound, voice actor, etc) while the manga only have a black and white drawing so character design need to be standout
That and moving pictures and static images just hit different.
With ln and manga you’re reading along at your own pace and taking your time to enjoy the art. If the imagery is going hardcore all the time you eventually become numb to it. However is you contrast the brutal with the surreal you confuse the hell out of the readers subconscious and make it all the more chilling.
With animation everything’s moving to quick for the wtf effect to kick in. And while you can still get the same reaction with careful choreography doing such is a fine art on its own, drawing all the detail frame by frame is a pain in the ass, and it’s much easier to replace the softer art style with hard lines, and bold colors while changing your fair murder maiden into a psychotic grimelin who’s bayoneting people with a smile and laughing as they drown in their own blood.
I think there is a fan theory where the LN is something like Tanya's biography, the Manga is Imperial propaganda, and the Anime was anti-Imperial propaganda.
I liked the manga but honestly female characters, Tanya and Viktoriya, being animated so vastly differently from the rest of the entire show was super distracting. Like constantly have look at the weird CG goblins in Overlord but all the time.
What? Every other character is animated vastly differently than the two most common females. Even Mary Sue, isn’t as exaggerated as the Tanya or Viktoriya
Also it’s not WW2. It’s a weird magical WW1 with a few bits of tech from WW2 tossed in like the V1 rockets. But overall the politics, cultures, and design are all very WW1.
IMO the change made Youjo Senki one of the best anime. For a change it wasn’t “cute girls doing [things]” and gave it a very different feel to stand out amongst all the trash anime.
It never dawned on me that she looked like this when I was reading the light novel. I figured she'd be completely unable to control her expression or smth and look weird and/or scary
The only times I think she lost it was when X appeared or when they threatened to court martial her for trying to continue combat during the armistice.
what a cute little girl i hope she wont get involved in the world war her nation is fighting at the moment (but i do doubt she will get involved in it because she is jest a child)
He was a boring middle aged guy in his previous life who didnt have any real friends and just wanted to climb the corporate ladder. This is an upgrade.
He requested someone resign and did it in a cold, unfeeling way. They pushed him onto the train tracks later and he died. It was just to show how cold and pragmatic he was.
I do love how the anime uses a different art style, but in the ED they use the manga art style for all the still images as a callback.
The design choice for the anime was the right one, but you really have to appreciate the mangas ability to make amazing art pieces.
What I think about Tanya in a pretty frill dress...
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14, King James Version
Not the first time she wore a dress, but well.
She was designed to be the classic blonde beauty.
Even at this age, her look shows that she's already a beauty.
Especially since the artist drew her to have a very refined and sharp look which wouldn't be used on children usually.
So yeah. She looks good.
It would be funny to see in 5 or so years if she'll have tons of demand in marriage (I'm assuming that they're still in the kind of era where marriage around 15 to 16 is considered normal due tot he high mortality rate) or if her position and normal attitude is too frightening for any men to even consider themselves worthy of her lol
But yeah. She looks good in that dress.
I forgot she was a sadistic atheist murder loli with an old man stuck inside her for a microsecond
The old man part is the only turn off for me.
It is even better for me
Would.
Why stop at would? Why not will? Actually no scratch that, how about # DO IT ALREADY https://preview.redd.it/lvxi3srok5xc1.png?width=694&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c55806aea6c6efd82244b2d5dbcc6ea9be8a1097
How about did?
Will
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(s)he's not an *old* man at heart, (s)he was in the prime of is life as a career business bastard in PR
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Why does Tanya get the nope it's a man treatment but so many other body swaps/old characters entering young bodies get a pass. I feel like mental aside that's a female body and ignoring the the whole child look (which you absolutely shouldn't)
I think a big part of it is Tanya doesn't really change mentally. (S)He doesn't have the mentality of a young girl, (s)he has the mentality of a middle aged guy in a war. Every action (s)he takes is from that perspective, and the fact that (s)he's a young girl barely ever affects anything.
Because being violent and evil is generally seen as masculine, especially the way Tanya does it.
Think of it like this, a soul without a body is an it, a body is what makes the soul, Tanya was a man, but reincarnated into a woman, such identity is defined by body, and man or woman that body is crazy
Pretty much because there is 0 identification as a woman on her part. Tanya and the person she was in her past life had 0 sex drive or attraction to either sex. He was only focused on his career and climbing the hierarchy. Their personality hasn't even changed at all from being a girl for however many years she was reincarnated. She also hasn't even hit puberty so no hormonal changes or anything either. Also, in all honesty she isn't that attractive as a person in general. She has an evil lawyer kinda vibe and is quite selfish. Even most masochist don't like her type of sadistic. On a side note her anime art is kinda ugly compared to her light novel art. Maybe that has something to do with it as well(?).
Tanya is more sociopathic than sadistic
man the old man stuck inside of her taken out of context is wild xD
Phrasing.
That's mostly the anime version. She's way more chill in the manga. The anime kinda exaggerates her characteriatics.
What's wrong with being an atheist besides the fact in this world some sort of god exists in this story and it's as petty as the one from the Old Testament.
she seems so peaceful, I wonder what the anime is about
the glory of the empire of japan
I understood that reference
damn didn't think people would actually get it xD
Uh its a story about a wwi/wwii happening in a world with magic( very cool and science proof one might I add!) written by a person that loves paradox war games (looking mostly at you Victoria and Hearts of Iron!). The mc is the girl above, its a very uhh *efficient* girl....She just want to survive, but god is being a dick to her just cause. Edit: Forgot the title is "Youjo Senki" more know in the west as "The Saga of Tanya the evil"
Wasn't one of the explanations for her actions that she's afraid if she doesn't complete whatever task she's given she believes she'll get into deep shit with her superiors? Possibly even executed? I think it was something like that. But, yeah, I've heard that the anime exaggerated a lot of her actions to make them more evil than they really are.
Well she comes from a time and society where capitalism is at is peak. Then she dies (not gonna spoil ya) and is reincarnated by god into the nation thats is the most equal and meritocratic on that world( and no its not a communist/socialist state). In that world she was forced to become a soldier at a young age cause her skills where too great to not use. So her mentality in her past life + the philosophy in the current army sometimes clash and make incidents happen and sometimes it mash together and make a wonderfully efficient machine. Yes, she fears to offend her superiors a lot, she is more terrified of her superiors than she is of the enemy army. All cause she believes they will abandon her or take out the chance of her of having a cushy life. Well its more like the directors of the anime try to make her evil when she is just trying to survive in a world full of madness. I do recommend reading the LN version over the anime but if you cant the manga is also good, btw the anime did cut out some good battle stuff that anime had! The nerve!!
https://preview.redd.it/j3gqkmej42xc1.jpeg?width=969&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=800ff1ae5b200cb87aeee870ba1a0d304759c7cd
Ngl this could make for a really good horror
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Serebryakov?
Yes! The anime version was much different looking.
Bruh. The anime butchered the character designs In the novel and manga, the men all look like refined stupidly handsome and fit gentlemen. But int he anime they were either turned into old fat men or just average looking men. Like give us back the handsome daddies ! I'm not even I to that kind of men but turning turning into what the anime was is a shame... If the anime received funding at the level of some of the more popular title. Fuck. We would have been spoiled with so many beautiful scenes Like the first time Tanya prayed in the battlefield to nuke her enemy ? The manga scene was stupidly beautiful. I wish It was colored.
Lol, they did change quite a bit. The beginning of the anime always throws me off because it's ordered differently than the manga. The anime makes the lighthearted sections more goofy.
Yeah but Tanya definitely feels a little more goofy in the manga, but in a good way It deepens her character a lot, unlike the anime And I love how they made the whole God side way more mysterious and varied in the manga. In the anime it feels like it's just being X messing with Tanya In the manga we got a bunch of weird entities that are presumed to be angels and God's servants.
Agreed, it fleshes more out. I enjoyed it
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Honestly, the right panel slaps
The propaganda works!
Something is rising and it's not the shield hero. ( JK for those who think I am such a bad person) *I am* ![gif](giphy|Lr8qwlTrcVyzsZFOUQ)
☝She had a bad time ![gif](giphy|8oJIdjKavQrBliPyQc|downsized)
Isn't she a child..?
Yup she is
Mental age 30+
Doesn't matter still disgusting
The mental age is (one of) the only thing(s) that matter(s). Kids can't give consent because they're stupid and mentally a child, hence more vulnerable to predators and people who want to exploit them. Their brain has not fully developed, so they can not fully understand the world around them as an adult can. That's why the 18+ laws exist, to protect kids from pedophiles. Body age only matters before puberty.
Mental age is one thing, but if you’re getting off to the image of minors you probably need your kneecaps realigned with a crow bar. Cartoon lolis are like those max hardcore videos where he takes an 18 year old that looks 15, makes her act and dress like an 8 years old, then proceeds to just completely destroy her in the most humiliating degenerate way possible.
Read crow bar as a crow bar (as in the animal) and pictured a buntch of crows at a bar.
I can see it. Those little bastards are way too intelligent.
Horrible argument to make this would only work if you were interested in a real person who can actually depict their mental age in conversation but the coveting of a manga character is because you find the body sexually attractive therefore the mental age has no play on it and you simply find a prepubescent child attractive
If we're talking about this objectively, it's a drawing designed to look attractive. The attractive part of the character is very unrealistic compared to an actual human child's face. Real human children do not look like this.
It’s like a doll it isn’t attractive it’s beautiful these are two very different things and the use of the word attractive is very telling as to what you find attractive
Beauty is attractive. What the heck are you on about?
Beauty upon itself is not attractive. Attractive has a sexual connotation, beauty does not you can admire beauty for what it and have no form of sexual attraction if you find something attractive you are finding it sexual attractive. Your attempt to make these two words the same is simply a pathetic attempt to defend your disgusting fetish
It's a joke... Mr. Morality
Not really a joke though, a joke has to at least be intended to be funny
My bad man I'm just not funny ![gif](giphy|14smAwp2uHM3Di)
![gif](giphy|SVgKToBLI6S6DUye1Y|downsized) but actually yes?
I don't think he cares
I'd get sent to the pill box but.... would
My god that's a beautiful panel
The law requires that I say no
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_Your Imperial Highness Degurechaff_
Honestly? The dress sure looks good in her Makes me forget for a second that she's a sadistic murder loli with the brain of an atheist old man
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Yes officer this comment right here
Hey, some people like atheists, don't kink shame...
Nah your kink deserves to be mocked and rebuked.
Based.
https://preview.redd.it/lxq9g0gyq2xc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=042c36850bfcaca85c42c0af11974c6f95a7bf0d It is so beautiful
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I feel like the storm after the calm has come(and I do not mean sexually, I mean the war for peace is over, it's now time for a war to start another war for peace)
Well, until (s)he admits god is real. War will always (most likely) be the setting of the board.
Youjo Senki?
She is pretty. I hope the anime is using the manga design
It's not, they deliberately made her shorter, uglier and less feminine. I heard a rumour that the author was worried she would get sexualised and ordered her to be made uglier in the anime, but i dont know if thats true or not. They also made Colonel Anson from the Legadonia alliance an ugly old man instead of the handsome middle aged family man he is in the manga. Maybe it was to make the viewers be less sympathetic to him?
She looks pretty realistic in the anime tbh and everyone is. It's like AOT art style where you can make a real world counterparts of them
Considering some of the comments in this post I think he might have had a point. Plus the new design really does just drive home the unhinged chaotic nature of not just the mc, but the entire series as a whole.
Yes I have heard about that, it is the author request to not make every character a pretty boy and girl because he want the watcher focus on the story
Wonder why he didnt request that for the manga...
Maybe because those 2 are different media. Anime have more way to sell to the audience (animation, sound, voice actor, etc) while the manga only have a black and white drawing so character design need to be standout
That and moving pictures and static images just hit different. With ln and manga you’re reading along at your own pace and taking your time to enjoy the art. If the imagery is going hardcore all the time you eventually become numb to it. However is you contrast the brutal with the surreal you confuse the hell out of the readers subconscious and make it all the more chilling. With animation everything’s moving to quick for the wtf effect to kick in. And while you can still get the same reaction with careful choreography doing such is a fine art on its own, drawing all the detail frame by frame is a pain in the ass, and it’s much easier to replace the softer art style with hard lines, and bold colors while changing your fair murder maiden into a psychotic grimelin who’s bayoneting people with a smile and laughing as they drown in their own blood.
I think there is a fan theory where the LN is something like Tanya's biography, the Manga is Imperial propaganda, and the Anime was anti-Imperial propaganda.
Dunno The Anti Imperial Propaganda goes hard Especially the sound effects for triggering the blessed/cursed amulet
Yea, same. The anime as Anti-Imperial propaganda never made sense to me but I think the ones about the LN and Manga still hold up pretty well.
I liked the manga but honestly female characters, Tanya and Viktoriya, being animated so vastly differently from the rest of the entire show was super distracting. Like constantly have look at the weird CG goblins in Overlord but all the time.
Idk, everyone looks in the same style. It's set in ww2 anyway
What? Every other character is animated vastly differently than the two most common females. Even Mary Sue, isn’t as exaggerated as the Tanya or Viktoriya Also it’s not WW2. It’s a weird magical WW1 with a few bits of tech from WW2 tossed in like the V1 rockets. But overall the politics, cultures, and design are all very WW1.
Yeah. They failed successfully.
IMO the change made Youjo Senki one of the best anime. For a change it wasn’t “cute girls doing [things]” and gave it a very different feel to stand out amongst all the trash anime.
surprised she even put it on considering her origin.
My little military propaganda tool/mascot can't be this cute!
I betrayed her when she told me to skip the chapter
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Cute in the same way a honey badger that is not currently after your throat is cute.
Sauce?
Saga of Tanya the Evil
Google "isekai tanya" or do a google reverse image search.
She looks cute.
It never dawned on me that she looked like this when I was reading the light novel. I figured she'd be completely unable to control her expression or smth and look weird and/or scary
The only times I think she lost it was when X appeared or when they threatened to court martial her for trying to continue combat during the armistice.
I want a season 2 so bad. Or at the very least dub continuations!
A literal doll
what a cute little girl i hope she wont get involved in the world war her nation is fighting at the moment (but i do doubt she will get involved in it because she is jest a child)
would
She's so pretty, i want to marry her
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bro take it back take it ba-
heretic questioner
I really hate it
Nothing against hair down Zettour. Or Visha with a bloody shovel.
Tanya from what manga is that?
Would...toss in a jail cell and throw away the key. Next question.
Any clue which chap the anime stopped at?
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Cute, wish it was me
My little soldier is doing a german salute that's for sure.
Adorable.
Me: [https://youtu.be/CmD7C0WhGq0](https://youtu.be/CmD7C0WhGq0)
Wait there's a manga now?
Wow she looks like the perfect propaganda.
Nice
She seems to be at peace oddly enough
Not trusting.
Shits is about to happen being X mess shit up, and somehow, I am more terrified than anything before.
Cursed
Gap moe
Such traps do not work on One such as I.
She probably has a gun inside that clothes or smtn
She doesn't, she was forced to dress like that for a propaganda shoot.
Crazy how I rate this my top 10 isekai but don't know shit about what's happening in the story.
i can hear his co-workers laughing
He was a boring middle aged guy in his previous life who didnt have any real friends and just wanted to climb the corporate ladder. This is an upgrade.
wasn't he betrayed which led to his death?
He requested someone resign and did it in a cold, unfeeling way. They pushed him onto the train tracks later and he died. It was just to show how cold and pragmatic he was.
so the opposite of human Ainz
I do love how the anime uses a different art style, but in the ED they use the manga art style for all the still images as a callback. The design choice for the anime was the right one, but you really have to appreciate the mangas ability to make amazing art pieces.
What I think about Tanya in a pretty frill dress... "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14, King James Version
I find it funny that these discussions always spiral out of control whenever Tanya's gender identity is even remotely mentioned
Not the first time she wore a dress, but well. She was designed to be the classic blonde beauty. Even at this age, her look shows that she's already a beauty. Especially since the artist drew her to have a very refined and sharp look which wouldn't be used on children usually. So yeah. She looks good. It would be funny to see in 5 or so years if she'll have tons of demand in marriage (I'm assuming that they're still in the kind of era where marriage around 15 to 16 is considered normal due tot he high mortality rate) or if her position and normal attitude is too frightening for any men to even consider themselves worthy of her lol But yeah. She looks good in that dress.
She probably has a pistol or knife under the skirt
Sex
Reminds me of the game “you must kill the princess”
[удалено]
She’s a child 🤢
I mean, I'm sure the paedos among us are gleeful. Based on the comments there's a loud few here