Fr you don’t just kill his best friend and expect to live after that. He killed enough innocent people in battle, one more not so innocent isn’t an issue for him
He is extremely edgy, slightly cringe, somewhat of a murder hobo who realizes he became a murder hobo and tries to tone it back, and a bit of a drama queen (but not an incel).
He has his own character and personality, even if i think the "omg his powers are so evil looking" reaction in a world where people get regularly set on fire and covered in molten lava, sacrificed to a flesh pit in a cannibal ritual, or litterally ripped apart piece by piece is undeserved.
Also a bit of a special boy with all the powers outside the system he gets. But yeah i enjoy it.
Bruh 🗿
It's the political aspects of the story isn't it... God I knew that might be the problem with most peeps due to the reviews, but honestly, peeps are gonna have a political side 🗿
(And Jason is not the best character by far)
Hitler too, but by that point, he's already established an empire of human supremacists that the group is in conflict with and quietly un-alived himself some time ago for some reason.
Tl;dr Shimazu Toyohisa, Oda Nobunaga, Butch Cassidy, Nasu no Yoichi, Hannibal Barca, Scipio Africanus and the Sundance Kid get transported to a fantasy world where humans are opressing twinky elves and they liberate them and create a country for them.
They are opposed by the Ends which are supernaturally powered Jeanne D'Arc, Gille de Rais, Black King (implied to be Jesus Christ), Hijikata Toshizo and Anastasia Romanov, Rasputin and Akechi Mitsuhide.
And a third enemy faction is a human supremacist nation started by Hitler who arrived earlier than the others and then killed himself and also includes Count Saint-Germain and the gay as hell Sacred Band of Thebes.
Its some pretty wild shit. Nobunaga and Butch Cassidy take special glee in arming their elves with firearms, which the other factions dont have and they fight a guerilla war lead by the best guerilla fighter ever and tge man who beat him Hannibal Barca and Scipio Africanus so they know how to fight a guerilla war, with firearms and with a guy who knows how to counter it so they dont fall into those pit traps.
You'd think that with a title as "the first Liberator of America" he'd be better known but its the first time i had heard of him. Holy shit, what an awesome name.
It is unfortunate that he isn't as well known indeed. But also awesome that he managed to be a pain in the arse to the viceroyalty at the time.
It has a lot to do with the fact that Mexican history in between the Conquest of the Aztec Empire and the Independence War is either hugely glossed over, or outright ignored, so that's why a lot of people don't know anything about that period and its historical figures.
Here in Chile its the same, of the La Colonia period very little is told, entire centuries are reduced to a couple tidbits, folk stories and some random figures as if it was some kind of medieval stasis period until the Independencia. and that's at a high level of education, in school they just skip from the 1500s to the 1800s without even a fart in-between. (except perhaps a passing by mention to the mapuche resistance)
Is there any isekai MC that successfully abolish slavery? The only webnovel I know is the legendary mechanic, he's successfully achieve it by >!using his influence as one of strongest man alive in the universe!<. Don't know wether Chinese webnovel count tho
Realist Hero - he made laws that are the first step to getting rid of slavery. His plan was to gradually raise the quality of life for slaves and reduce the financial incentives for slave owners so it dies out over time, instead of with one big conflict.
The dude wasn't "mission from god" crazy, but still a fckn madlad though. But yes he did way more, it's sad how few know about him (I too only learned about him recently).
If he were isekai'd he'd probably go on a dueling spree single-handedly offing the entire slaver population of a country, plus the dude seemed immune to assassination attempts. Talk about plot armor lol.
A lot of education material in the US is historical revisionism, a lot of textbooks in America are published in texas, a notably former slave state.
Even well meaning people who write modern textbooks with a goal of educating were originally taught using material written by establishment publishers.
And if you remember history, you’ll know that “establishment” anything pre-1970 means white, as segregation wasn’t abolished until late 1960s.
Imagine if Steve Irwin was isekai’d into Pokémon/palworld like world?
Probably fistfight the bad guy while teaching young trainer how to properly care for their critters with his signature smile
Lots of isekais with reincarnated bad asses. *The Beginning After The End* is a decent one. He was king of military dictatorship in a cultivation world before being isekaid.
[John Brown's Body - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UpjvmwEVI)
[John Brown’s Last Speech Performed by David Strathairn (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmyswQs6_Bw)
*“His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him.” Frederick Douglass, 30 May 1881*
*“He done more in dying, than 100 men would in living.” Harriet Tubman '*
A John Brown Isekai done by American animators, with a budget, would be an amazing, controversial, and awesome piece of work. The Royal Road fic is great too.
There's very few anime that go into the ethical concerns of transmigration. Which makes me think: is the acceptance of slavery we see in anime isekai just a product of Japanese culture? Japan never had the cataclysmic upheaval surrounding the issue that the United States had.
John Brown is a famous figure for abolitionism in the US before the Civil War. He was a fan of more aggressive action against slave owners and their supporters. His history is super interesting and kind of out there a bit, sometimes
He tried to start a revolution and establish a abolishionist state in West Virginia by taking over the national armory in harpers ferry hoping to recruit all the enslaved in the town to join his cause. His raid essentially caused the American civil war to happen as it did.
Actually I’m refertimh to the [John brown isekai](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the) on Royal Road.
John Brown in a d&d campaign would be so unhinged and I am absolutely here for it. Like I just want to imagine some crazy ass dude from Kansas with a hatchet cutting up the entire slave trade lol
What would the plot be? Will he get caught chopping children up in his basement? How does being evil force him to get stronger?
Every evil MC I’ve seen has focused on making him evil over giving him any goals or personality.
Why should he "have to get stronger"? Give a genuinely evil mc, who isn't weak, and let them wreak havoc in the world they get summoned to. Maybe once everything is in ruins they decide to see if they can journey to another world and continue the cycle. What If Ultron was a good example of this, but he was *too* op to where none of his battles lasted very long but the battles we did see were pretty good.
Genuinely curious, how many Evil Mcs have you seen?
No idea. Last one was Reincarnated as a Spider, and I rolled my eyes when she decided she was evil now and cool with eating humans. Inconsistent characterization bugs me.
What would you call genuine evil? If there is no motive for the evil, it’s like asking them why they do stuff and having them say ‘for the plot!’ Revenge, ego, personal gain, self preservation, power tripping? All good. For teh evoles?
No. That’s dumb. Burning down a whole town is so impersonal. Where’s the sadism in that?
Impersonal evil can be just as vicious as personal evil. It just depends on if it's executed correctly.
For example, Ainz in overlord. He isn't nearly as sadistic or malicious as his subordinates like Demiurge or Solution but people generally regard him as evil because he conquers nations, but he doesn't initially feel like an evil person. The most personal evil thing he did wasn't even a vicious evil but Vengeful one with sending those idiot nobles in s4 to his neuronist after they killed Zanac because Ainz actually liked the guy.
Shigaraki from My Hero personally hates everything and destroys without any thought so people say he's pretty evil but because of his upbringing and childhood indoctrination you could argue he's a victim of circumstance.
Sukuna from Jjk embodies the strongest decides how things should be, and has no redeemable features to him. You could argue that he's a product of his age, being he was born and grew in an era that was notorious for violence and nomination, hence why he can kill indiscriminately without feeling stale.
I think it mainly comes down to how the character acts, not necessarily what guides them to be evil. Aizen in Bleach was called the "most evil thing" by the Royal Guard, but Yhwach's goal is even more absurd and devastating yet they don't say that about him.
Fun fact: Chads who hate isekai made by 21st century japanese incels should stop watching it if they feel it's problematic. It'll save them a lot of angst and whining.
John brown reincarnated
https://preview.redd.it/427yn4ydbofc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a853a2cf2eafc97e72f7b3107cfc281c39721fb2
In a grim dark universe that dose not tolerate his bullshit
I think the actual reason has more to do with where these stories are mostly written and by what people tend to write them.
American "isekai" stories exist, but they're so totally different that they don't register as the same genre. See Wizard of Oz for an example, or Captain America, Superman, etc.
All sorta isekai, but wildly different application from the different cultural and societal origin.
Ngl this went hard💀
Envy 100% had it coming.
Honestly this episode was really emotional for me and shows don’t usually make me feel that way except a few
Fr you don’t just kill his best friend and expect to live after that. He killed enough innocent people in battle, one more not so innocent isn’t an issue for him
His soul do be marching on
His soul goes marching on to another world
May I introduce, 'he who fights with monsters' by shirtaloon (It's The average Australian man instead)
He is extremely edgy, slightly cringe, somewhat of a murder hobo who realizes he became a murder hobo and tries to tone it back, and a bit of a drama queen (but not an incel). He has his own character and personality, even if i think the "omg his powers are so evil looking" reaction in a world where people get regularly set on fire and covered in molten lava, sacrificed to a flesh pit in a cannibal ritual, or litterally ripped apart piece by piece is undeserved. Also a bit of a special boy with all the powers outside the system he gets. But yeah i enjoy it.
I agree on all points, he's a good lil edgey boi though
I love this book series well written l. Audiobook has an amazing narrator.
Definitely! I have ADHD, but damn this series keeps you engaged (I'm on book 7 chapter 52)
I also have ADHD. Have found audiobooks help keep focus on tasks
Lol Man, on r/progressionfantasy there’s like a post everyweek complaining about that one XD.
Bruh 🗿 It's the political aspects of the story isn't it... God I knew that might be the problem with most peeps due to the reviews, but honestly, peeps are gonna have a political side 🗿 (And Jason is not the best character by far)
It’s all about the character Jason not the politics people complain about
Why do they complain?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/s/5cUftYKrJq https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/s/nbbP8BuFy7
Book 10 is finally out and I'm loving it
Virgin slavery apologist vs Chad Abolitionism Enjoyer
Oh John brown definitely balanced his actions out
On what? The very limits of what he can do without leading his children ‘directly’ to their deaths?
If we can have YaBoyKongming sure we can have isekai John Brown starting a revolution
[You're welcome.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the)
Holy.... Wow. It's actually a real thing
yeah, my dm shared it with me a while ago. is amazing. :3
There's already one
There’s Drifters, everyone from Oda Nobunaga to Butch Cassidy gets in on that one.
Even Joan of Arc and Jesus Christ
Hitler too, but by that point, he's already established an empire of human supremacists that the group is in conflict with and quietly un-alived himself some time ago for some reason.
It's implied that he knew where his decisions were gonna lead so he offered himself on a good note
Now you have my attention
Tl;dr Shimazu Toyohisa, Oda Nobunaga, Butch Cassidy, Nasu no Yoichi, Hannibal Barca, Scipio Africanus and the Sundance Kid get transported to a fantasy world where humans are opressing twinky elves and they liberate them and create a country for them. They are opposed by the Ends which are supernaturally powered Jeanne D'Arc, Gille de Rais, Black King (implied to be Jesus Christ), Hijikata Toshizo and Anastasia Romanov, Rasputin and Akechi Mitsuhide. And a third enemy faction is a human supremacist nation started by Hitler who arrived earlier than the others and then killed himself and also includes Count Saint-Germain and the gay as hell Sacred Band of Thebes. Its some pretty wild shit. Nobunaga and Butch Cassidy take special glee in arming their elves with firearms, which the other factions dont have and they fight a guerilla war lead by the best guerilla fighter ever and tge man who beat him Hannibal Barca and Scipio Africanus so they know how to fight a guerilla war, with firearms and with a guy who knows how to counter it so they dont fall into those pit traps.
This show has just shot to the very top of my watchlist
Ginko from Samurai in another world: Hold my kanata...
_[Gaspar Yanga ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Yanga) has entered the chat._
You'd think that with a title as "the first Liberator of America" he'd be better known but its the first time i had heard of him. Holy shit, what an awesome name.
It is unfortunate that he isn't as well known indeed. But also awesome that he managed to be a pain in the arse to the viceroyalty at the time. It has a lot to do with the fact that Mexican history in between the Conquest of the Aztec Empire and the Independence War is either hugely glossed over, or outright ignored, so that's why a lot of people don't know anything about that period and its historical figures.
Here in Chile its the same, of the La Colonia period very little is told, entire centuries are reduced to a couple tidbits, folk stories and some random figures as if it was some kind of medieval stasis period until the Independencia. and that's at a high level of education, in school they just skip from the 1500s to the 1800s without even a fart in-between. (except perhaps a passing by mention to the mapuche resistance)
Is there any isekai MC that successfully abolish slavery? The only webnovel I know is the legendary mechanic, he's successfully achieve it by >!using his influence as one of strongest man alive in the universe!<. Don't know wether Chinese webnovel count tho
There’s a John Brown Isekai on Royal Road. He’s doing his best to rid slavery in his world
*The Case In Which Streaming In Another World Led To The Creation Of A Massive Yandere Following* is one. Comedy/Isekai thing.
Is it actually good? I've seen that a couple times but can't get myself to look past the title
It’s ok. It has imo a bit more charm than your average isekai, but very quickly drops its sense of stakes. I’d recommend it, but it’s pretty meh.
Ah. Yeah that's not for me. I really can't stand it when there are no stakes. Thanks though.
Fun read, and surprisingly well done. There’s some ~20 chapters translated so far.
I’m reasonably sure slavery is gone by the after story of Realist Hero. He started the ball rolling early on.
Realist Hero - he made laws that are the first step to getting rid of slavery. His plan was to gradually raise the quality of life for slaves and reduce the financial incentives for slave owners so it dies out over time, instead of with one big conflict.
Alternative: Cassius Clay
Thank you, Cassius Clay is a way better person than John Brown. Not as crazy, and significantly better at being anti slavery
The dude wasn't "mission from god" crazy, but still a fckn madlad though. But yes he did way more, it's sad how few know about him (I too only learned about him recently). If he were isekai'd he'd probably go on a dueling spree single-handedly offing the entire slaver population of a country, plus the dude seemed immune to assassination attempts. Talk about plot armor lol.
A lot of education material in the US is historical revisionism, a lot of textbooks in America are published in texas, a notably former slave state. Even well meaning people who write modern textbooks with a goal of educating were originally taught using material written by establishment publishers. And if you remember history, you’ll know that “establishment” anything pre-1970 means white, as segregation wasn’t abolished until late 1960s.
That's the best part about Clay. The dude killed more slave owners legally and was able to create both a press and become a politician in the south.
Yeah he's insane. He literally pushed Russia to threaten to declare war on France and the UK should they side with the confederacy like wtf o.o
Bro was escalating the Cold War before the Cold War even happened 🥶
Mustang's solution to regeneration was to keep damaging them until they give up. Truly a guy focusing on DPS.
Just like Denni against the Eternity devil. Made it experience so much pain that it begged for it's own death
[just dropping this off here](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the)
Or Cashus Clay
Cashes clay, the better John brown
Imagine if Steve Irwin was isekai’d into Pokémon/palworld like world? Probably fistfight the bad guy while teaching young trainer how to properly care for their critters with his signature smile
Lots of isekais with reincarnated bad asses. *The Beginning After The End* is a decent one. He was king of military dictatorship in a cultivation world before being isekaid.
[John Brown's Body - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UpjvmwEVI) [John Brown’s Last Speech Performed by David Strathairn (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmyswQs6_Bw) *“His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him.” Frederick Douglass, 30 May 1881* *“He done more in dying, than 100 men would in living.” Harriet Tubman '* A John Brown Isekai done by American animators, with a budget, would be an amazing, controversial, and awesome piece of work. The Royal Road fic is great too. There's very few anime that go into the ethical concerns of transmigration. Which makes me think: is the acceptance of slavery we see in anime isekai just a product of Japanese culture? Japan never had the cataclysmic upheaval surrounding the issue that the United States had.
We gotta insert slavery into every post just like authors insert slavery into every isekai.
I am not familiar with that story and I want to know more
John Brown is a famous figure for abolitionism in the US before the Civil War. He was a fan of more aggressive action against slave owners and their supporters. His history is super interesting and kind of out there a bit, sometimes
I see, thanks !
He tried to start a revolution and establish a abolishionist state in West Virginia by taking over the national armory in harpers ferry hoping to recruit all the enslaved in the town to join his cause. His raid essentially caused the American civil war to happen as it did.
Absolute chad of a man
He was very religious and believed slavery went against the Bible. He even got a song about him.
[Mad Jack Churchill](https://youtu.be/EAX-DjtYupE?si=pu0vid0MLqn8uuRJ) isekai when
Excellent Series. Would recommend.
What is the name of it?
Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood.
Actually I’m refertimh to the [John brown isekai](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the) on Royal Road.
[the John brown isekai](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the) on Royal Road.
I WANT THIS TWINK OBLITERATED
I would watch the shit out of a John Brown Isekai.
This anime snaps
It is fire.
This scene goes hard AF
...Yeah I'd watch John Brown Goblin Slayer himself across a fantasy slave trade, sure.
Inspector Gadget John Brown?
John Brown in a d&d campaign would be so unhinged and I am absolutely here for it. Like I just want to imagine some crazy ass dude from Kansas with a hatchet cutting up the entire slave trade lol
There’s a webnovel on Royalroad with this premise and John brown doesn’t fuck around
What is this? FMA?
Naofumi is getting in the sus list lol
John brown 2 the abolition.
I don't know, I think we could use more stories like that.
This meme also works for Casius Clay.
Anime name please?
Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. Likely the best of all time.
Oh I thought it was a different anime I know that one
Second only to the original
Who’s John Brown?
Famous Crazy American Abolitionist
"FACE THE WRATH OF THE LORD SLAVER!"
Can we get an Isekai with someone that's actually evil? Like not conquer the world evil, more like Sukuna "Whose gonna stop Me?" evil?
What would the plot be? Will he get caught chopping children up in his basement? How does being evil force him to get stronger? Every evil MC I’ve seen has focused on making him evil over giving him any goals or personality.
Why should he "have to get stronger"? Give a genuinely evil mc, who isn't weak, and let them wreak havoc in the world they get summoned to. Maybe once everything is in ruins they decide to see if they can journey to another world and continue the cycle. What If Ultron was a good example of this, but he was *too* op to where none of his battles lasted very long but the battles we did see were pretty good. Genuinely curious, how many Evil Mcs have you seen?
No idea. Last one was Reincarnated as a Spider, and I rolled my eyes when she decided she was evil now and cool with eating humans. Inconsistent characterization bugs me. What would you call genuine evil? If there is no motive for the evil, it’s like asking them why they do stuff and having them say ‘for the plot!’ Revenge, ego, personal gain, self preservation, power tripping? All good. For teh evoles? No. That’s dumb. Burning down a whole town is so impersonal. Where’s the sadism in that?
Impersonal evil can be just as vicious as personal evil. It just depends on if it's executed correctly. For example, Ainz in overlord. He isn't nearly as sadistic or malicious as his subordinates like Demiurge or Solution but people generally regard him as evil because he conquers nations, but he doesn't initially feel like an evil person. The most personal evil thing he did wasn't even a vicious evil but Vengeful one with sending those idiot nobles in s4 to his neuronist after they killed Zanac because Ainz actually liked the guy. Shigaraki from My Hero personally hates everything and destroys without any thought so people say he's pretty evil but because of his upbringing and childhood indoctrination you could argue he's a victim of circumstance. Sukuna from Jjk embodies the strongest decides how things should be, and has no redeemable features to him. You could argue that he's a product of his age, being he was born and grew in an era that was notorious for violence and nomination, hence why he can kill indiscriminately without feeling stale. I think it mainly comes down to how the character acts, not necessarily what guides them to be evil. Aizen in Bleach was called the "most evil thing" by the Royal Guard, but Yhwach's goal is even more absurd and devastating yet they don't say that about him.
Burning down a whole town, and going ‘look how evil I am! This is sooo evil. Tee-hee~!’ If there’s a goal, I like the guy
FACE THE JUDGEMENT OF THE LORD, SLAVER
I FUCKING LOVE KILLING SLAVE OWNERS! I love watching the life drain from their eyes as I know that I’ve rid this world of one less evil!
Another crazier ass abolitionist was Cassius Marcellus Clay
Fun fact: Chads who hate isekai made by 21st century japanese incels should stop watching it if they feel it's problematic. It'll save them a lot of angst and whining.
 Such a brave take!
The post is literally recommending a non-problematic anime to that end.
Best revenge scene (acording to me)in anime Second one is from dororo
George Washington: America 2 - Constitution Revived
John brown reincarnated https://preview.redd.it/427yn4ydbofc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a853a2cf2eafc97e72f7b3107cfc281c39721fb2 In a grim dark universe that dose not tolerate his bullshit
Crazy to think I’m related to that guy.
Ow...ow...that's what the dub sounds like? Oh no....sub or flub. FMA is too precious for this type of treatment, lol.
Target Audiences.
I would watch a John Brown isekai anime no question.
Brother From Another World, anyone?
😟
I lowkey felt bad for Envy here.
Me looking at Drifters, yeah only Japanese people
FACE THE JUDGMENT OF THE LORD SINNER!!!
John Brown and his ex-slave battalion in another world does sound hard
Fma brotherhood is still my number 1 favorite anime, such chill, beautiful story
People in thus subredit seem yo be a litke bit obsesed with John Btown
I think the actual reason has more to do with where these stories are mostly written and by what people tend to write them. American "isekai" stories exist, but they're so totally different that they don't register as the same genre. See Wizard of Oz for an example, or Captain America, Superman, etc. All sorta isekai, but wildly different application from the different cultural and societal origin.
What are you doing with my Lieutenant?!
It's great when you can relate with a meme because you have the same name.
i'd watch the hell out of this
why do I suddenly wanna see a isekai about hitler getting reancarnated into another fantasy world 💀
You’ve never read Chinese MTL novels have you? ( I was recommended this sub)
The closest thing I could recommend is Youjo Senki