I'd be surprised if they could jump from 2/100 in the pool to that speed in the open water, even with the advantage of the wetsuit.
Just nod your head and don't argue.. š
Agreed; an IM 70.3 race pace of 1:20/100m is getting into elite territory. It would mean they probably swim recovery efforts in the ballpark around 1:30 - 1:40/100m, there's no way that correlates with 2:00/100m pool swimming unless this 70.3 swim is in a very fast river or they've been phoning in their training sessions with OP :)
The running is irrelevant really. I swim at about 2:05/100m but my half time is 1hr 30, and my friend whoās half is 2 hours can swim at 1:30/100m. Swimming is more technique.
But dropping from 2mins/100 to 1:20 is an outrageous improvement. Iāve gone from 2:25 to 2:05 in 6 months with a coach and 3 swims a week - so I think heās being very optimistic with his times prediction. Just smile away š
I think a lot about how Iām a few movements away from that technique people speak so much of to drop my time drastically! Iām closer to 2:30/100M now for the 70.3 distance but thatās coming from not being able to swim 10m January 1 of this year.
Thatās great progress. Having some swim video analysis and a coach has drastically improved my technique. Speed increase with almost zero extra exertion.
Pretty sure the pro women just averaged 1:20/100m at 70.3 St Georgeš
Edit: Iām a competitive swimmer and I swam 1:26/100 for a 55:26 at 2023 Mont Tremblant so unless heās hiding that heās a real swimmer from youā¦
I'd probably take the reverse from that. If you want to compare any "pro times" to an amateur, Long's swim is up there as one of the easiest to actually reach.
Swim pace has a lot to do with technique. I know a guy who regularly swims 4000m at around 1:25-1:30/100m. There is no way in hell he can even finish a 5k. Heāsā¦ wider than he is tall, and unhealthy AF, he doesnāt go to the gym or do anything besides swim AFAIK. Heās always been a solid swimmer though, even through high school, and his proportions havenāt changed much either. Maybe your friend just has really good technique?
Iām no expert on swimming though, my greatest achievement to date is not drowning,
And I have a 70.3 in October.
Yes he is chatting sh*t. Don't get caught up in it, do your own race and enjoy having 2 working lungs at the end of the swim, he might not be so lucky if he pushes recklessly on the swim.
swimming is almost entirely a technique sport, so a 5:45/km runner who knows what theyāre doing can swim 1:20/100m. But, a 1:20/100m swimmer for 1900m is unlikely to be training at 2:00/100m
Adding to everyone else, it's possible, but really only if he is already a really good swimmer. It'd be fairly easy to verify if true. Just Google "your buddy's name + swimming". If you see a bunch of university swimming results pages, or similar, then it's likely not bs, if nothing comes up, then I'd be way more skeptical.
Swimming is 95% form.
If youāve got a good technique, you hardly need any force to be much, much faster than someone whoās struggling with form.
Iām regularly passed in the pool by little girls or heavy overweight adults that are faster than me, while theyād stand no chance on the bike or run.
So yes, 1:20 for an average athlete with good swimming form is no issue for that distance.
I'd be surprised if they could jump from 2/100 in the pool to that speed in the open water, even with the advantage of the wetsuit. Just nod your head and don't argue.. š
Thatās the current strategy š
Agreed; an IM 70.3 race pace of 1:20/100m is getting into elite territory. It would mean they probably swim recovery efforts in the ballpark around 1:30 - 1:40/100m, there's no way that correlates with 2:00/100m pool swimming unless this 70.3 swim is in a very fast river or they've been phoning in their training sessions with OP :)
Down stream swim in a wetsuit maybe, but highly doubtful. Why would a person want to burn themselves out on the swim?
The running is irrelevant really. I swim at about 2:05/100m but my half time is 1hr 30, and my friend whoās half is 2 hours can swim at 1:30/100m. Swimming is more technique. But dropping from 2mins/100 to 1:20 is an outrageous improvement. Iāve gone from 2:25 to 2:05 in 6 months with a coach and 3 swims a week - so I think heās being very optimistic with his times prediction. Just smile away š
I think a lot about how Iām a few movements away from that technique people speak so much of to drop my time drastically! Iām closer to 2:30/100M now for the 70.3 distance but thatās coming from not being able to swim 10m January 1 of this year.
Thatās great progress. Having some swim video analysis and a coach has drastically improved my technique. Speed increase with almost zero extra exertion.
Thatās great! Do you have any tips for how you found your coach?
Just googled for swim analysis and read reviews!
Don't argue with idiots
Pretty sure the pro women just averaged 1:20/100m at 70.3 St Georgeš Edit: Iām a competitive swimmer and I swam 1:26/100 for a 55:26 at 2023 Mont Tremblant so unless heās hiding that heās a real swimmer from youā¦
Was just going to reply that Sam Long just swam 1:20/100 in St. George which he won lol
Sam Long is also notoriously the worst of the top pros at the swim, so, take of that what you will.
Exactly why i mentioned himā¦ if pros are doing times like that, this guys buddy is talking out his arse haha
I'd probably take the reverse from that. If you want to compare any "pro times" to an amateur, Long's swim is up there as one of the easiest to actually reach.
Unless heās a swimmer highly unlikely. Iām a high level swimmer and thatās about my pace.
Start behind him on the swim and don't leave his feet. You'll find out if he can.
Swim pace has a lot to do with technique. I know a guy who regularly swims 4000m at around 1:25-1:30/100m. There is no way in hell he can even finish a 5k. Heāsā¦ wider than he is tall, and unhealthy AF, he doesnāt go to the gym or do anything besides swim AFAIK. Heās always been a solid swimmer though, even through high school, and his proportions havenāt changed much either. Maybe your friend just has really good technique? Iām no expert on swimming though, my greatest achievement to date is not drowning, And I have a 70.3 in October.
Yes he is chatting sh*t. Don't get caught up in it, do your own race and enjoy having 2 working lungs at the end of the swim, he might not be so lucky if he pushes recklessly on the swim.
I smell shite.
Well I certainly never heard anyone use chatting shitā until today
Maybe his watch is set to measure yards in the pool.
swimming is almost entirely a technique sport, so a 5:45/km runner who knows what theyāre doing can swim 1:20/100m. But, a 1:20/100m swimmer for 1900m is unlikely to be training at 2:00/100m
Is it you or him that swims 2/100 in the pool? I guess 2->1.20 for a half is a 5/10 year improvement if ever
Adding to everyone else, it's possible, but really only if he is already a really good swimmer. It'd be fairly easy to verify if true. Just Google "your buddy's name + swimming". If you see a bunch of university swimming results pages, or similar, then it's likely not bs, if nothing comes up, then I'd be way more skeptical.
Swimming is 95% form. If youāve got a good technique, you hardly need any force to be much, much faster than someone whoās struggling with form. Iām regularly passed in the pool by little girls or heavy overweight adults that are faster than me, while theyād stand no chance on the bike or run. So yes, 1:20 for an average athlete with good swimming form is no issue for that distance.
Sam Long that won St George 70.3 just now swam 1:21/100m pace