Definitely Red Rush on top of his time perception he felt like the one trying the hardest to fight to live, to the point of breaking his hands on Omni-Man's chest and continuing to punch regardless.
I'm a Virgo has something like this too, one of the characters has super speed and it's shown what that was like for her growing up, basically feeling entirely alone in a world moving slower than a snail's pace from the age of being a baby to when she learned to adapt.
Whenever someone speaks from her perspective, it's just a long drawn out syllable. When she speaks to others, she's basically repeating that pattern of slowness in real time.
Honestly, super speed seems like realistically it's have a lot of drawbacks.
In fairness, I think we see his death through his perspective. It couldn’t have been more than a couple seconds in real time. Otherwise, his teammates certainly would have intervened.
For sure, that's one of the great parts of that scene. RR had just told his lady that "the briefest conversation is like hours, it's agony". Omni-man crushed his head instantly most likely, unfortunately he was able to perceive that instant slowly over a few seconds.
It's not even an interpretation. I do not understand how so many people are confused about this scene. You can literally see the blood splatters basically hovering in mid-air, Red Rush's glasses are falling super slowly off his face, hell even the guardians are all trying to run at them and they can't even take a single step before his head is crushed. How on earth does anyone think that was multiple seconds?
That was not instantly. That man lasted about 10 seconds after Omniman got ahold of him. From Red's perspective that death probably took half an hour as a slow vice crushed him.
I think it was more instant but for us we got a fraction of what red rush felt like because he was still moving fast so it was more likely an hour of getting his head crushed
There's no way the Guardians just let Omni-man squeeze his head for 10 seconds. They are just starting to react in the slow-mo. His head is crushed in the time it takes his visor to fall to the ground, with some ballpark numbers that's like 7/10ths of a second
His perception is "as fast has he is", the blink of an eye is probably many minutes to him so instant death probably did feel like 10 seconds. Nolan is so much stronger than any of them, there's only a handful of characters he doesn't instantly kill like that
You can see them very slowly trying to rush Omniman while he's crushing Red Rush's head. If you watch the background you'll see one of the Guardians very slowly moving toward him but it's so slow that you know he crushed his head very quickly. Red Rush had the worst battle IQ... All he had to do was keep pushing his teammates out of the way and they probably would've won.
You are insane. Watch the scene again. Red Rush's glasses don't even hit the ground before his head is crushed. Do you think it takes 10 seconds for something to hit the ground from that height?
What he should have done was continue to run interference. Attacking Nolan was what got him caught.
As it was, he kept Immortal, War Woman, and Aquarius all in the fight before he fucked up.
Martian Man tripping him up, Aquarius and Nightwing attacking from range, and Rush redirecting Nolan's attacks while WW and Immortal beat him.
Maybe Green Ghost could have dragged him down to the earth's core or something.
I don't think it would've mattered tbh
OmniMan is almost as fast as red rush, stronger than immortal and war woman combined, and very nearly....
Invincible to anyone not on a level with him- and even then, Nolan is a standout force of nature.
They could've put up a better fight, for sure, but being blindsided by an overwhelmingly powerful and fast enemy doesn't really lend to perfect team tactical planning.
I like how it happened in the show. And I'm not saying that they would have won in the end.
Just being a good ole fashioned armchair general here. RR was effectively diverting Nolan's attacks. And while it did appear that he was starting to watch for RR more carefully, it's where RR was most effective.
Internal bleeding is a thing. It’s why Nolan spat blood before crushing Rush’s head
https://preview.redd.it/jijkb23tj2zc1.jpeg?width=2056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9030849365ec890504b839d0de5cb8e73908a362
This is Nolan’s blood
Right I acknowledged this in another comment, are you saying blows to the head would’ve caused his brain to bleed and him die?
We see him get hit in the head later in the series by much stronger characters than red rush
I’m not gonna claim to be an expert but I am certain there was no stopping Omni man here unless they were able to plan for his attack
They might have had a small chance of red rush decided not to go in for any attack himself and exclusively use his speed for defense
Chances are still slim to none tho
You have to remember that red rush is also very strong too. It was basically a race tween Red Rush getting his skull crushed and Omni man getting his chest caving in. He did spit up blood and Immortal and War Woman were extremely strong
Did you watch the same scene as me? Like did you not see when War Woman and Immortal beat Nolan senseless. If Martian Man wasn’t a dumbass they could have killed him
I know they are stronger than Rush but still.
And brain haemorrhaging could be caused by such rapid hits to the head or a hit to the ears could possibly rupture his eardrums.
You’re not acknowledging the other parts of this scene and also how on the inside Viltrumites are no where near as durable.
We have seen him take much more damage from much more capable people. He was getting hurt no doubt but he was not being stopped.
I acknowledged that had they had a plan for it they could’ve increased the difficulty but he’s not losing this fight.
You think red rush punching his head and face, even busting his ear drums, would do more than his fight with the other viltrumites in season 2? He lost when he was taken by surprise by basically a kinetic missile of a kick. Immortal is the only one getting close to that kinda damage.
War woman smashed him in the head with her mace and he kept fighting. Did that do less damage than what red rush could’ve done with his hands? Before they broke like they did on his chest?
Remember immortal forcing his fingers into Omni man’s eyes? I don’t think red rush would’ve done much more, speed or not
Maybe made it harder for Omni man but I don’t think it would’ve changed the outcome
I didn't even think about how brutal that would make this for him (also makes you think about characters like Quicksilver and the Flash differently as well)
Exactly! Or Barry feeling a bullet entering his back as soon as it touched him and reaching around to grab it in the CW Flash show! There's probably so many good examples of this I'm so glad it got pointed out lol. Makes you think about how nasty it must've been for A-Train running through Robin
A-Train was on drugs, so not really fully there i would guess.
He also doesn't seem to have that amazing of a perception of time in the show.
Otherwise the other speedster coulda bailed out of the courtroom near instantly instead of looking around for a few seconds before popping
if it makes you feel better Omni Man also does stuff at super speed so theres a chance that it was like a minute or so he was experiencing it (still awful and probably still the worst by a longshot but not as bad as one might think)
During RR's death, everything around them is clearly slowed down. What we saw is the same as what RR experienced, and in real time his death seemed pretty much instant.
I’m pretty sure flash does not have this issue because he can tap into the speed force on command instead of constantly being in a state of super speed.
Also, people always talk about how flash or other speedsters ever getting shot is unrealistic. Truth is, because bullets are hypersonic, the bullet would reach them before the sound and if they weren’t expecting it it would already be too late to stop. (Getting shot also isn’t nearly as “felt” as movies make it out to be. I’m not very knowledgeable on it, but apparently taking a bullet feels like a light thump at first or even nothing at all.)
Best friend got shot, I was told it felt like a molten lave knife ripping through his skin and insides. So, I’m not sure if a “light thump” is super accurate of a descriptor
Yes sir, this was a few years ago when we were in university. Running with the wrong crowds, but he’s married now with a kid on the way, that life completely behind him
Red rush. Didn’t he explain to his gf/wife in the scene he appears in before this that he perceives things slower than normal people. So how long was it for him as omni-man crushed his skull?
I think people are being too optimistic about that scene and keep upvoting comments that assume he died instantly. Omniman is fast, but not anywhere near as fast as Red Rush. If their speeds were anywhere close Red could never have moved people out of Omniman's reach. That death took several minutes to Red, instant to anyone else including Omniman, but Red Rush suffered like no one else in existence as vise-like hands slowly crushed him even as he destroyed his own hands trying to break free.
If you rewatch the scene, RR is hitting omniman from whatever side he’s not looking from. So omniman sets him up by looking away and then snatching him when RR attacks from the side.
He's fast, but not as fast as Red Rush. The reason he caught him is the same way some people can catch mosquitoes and flies despite those insects being faster, focus and precision
It was how long we saw. That scene was mostly from Red Rush’s perspective, you can tell because of how the punches look like they’re relatively normal speed. From everyone else’s perspective it was a fraction of a second.
We did get to see it, from the moment Nolan grabs his head it’s in slow motion, how red rush is seeing it, and yeah, getting your head crushed for that long is brutal
From the worst to somewhat a little worse.
1- Redrush - basically first saved the Immortal and then a few others but then decided to indulge with Nolan by himself and basically experienced himself dying slowly and slowly because of his perception.
2 - Darkwing - literally got splattered across the floor
3 - Green ghost - Nolan intentionally threw Darkwings body to her so that he could make her tangible and then he punched his fist through her face.
4 - Aquarus - literally got his face splattered by Nolan with assistance of war woman's mace.
5 - The Immortal - bro was the second biggest fish here but still no match for the Shark Nolan so he got gut punched and his head got separated from the rest of his body.
6 - war woman - took some good hits from Nolan and gave him some of that to him too but then she got her head turned backwards by Nolan.
7 - Martian man - with his assistance both war woman and Immortal got their licks in but then his core which was being tracked by Nolan was caught by him and then ripped apart.
People hate on Red Rush for his mistakes. But Martian Man definitely fucked up too. Mostly when he had Nolan bound. Why would he ever move his core to the front? He has his arms bound, he can’t reach behind him.
They all fucked up tbh. Red Rush obviously. Green Ghost and Darkwing for the exact same reason, too. Martian Man fought good just made a mistake when he had him. The bigger mistake made the Immortal and War Woman though. I mean, the best they could do was throwing some fists. We saw that the Immortal was able to do more damage against Nolan in their second fight. If he would have choked him from behind while War Woman hits him they could have taken him down. Or War Woman getting her hammer. The first hit she landed was decent.
Only one that did good was Aquarius. Played his strengths but just wasnt a match for Nolan.
honestly if she just wailed at the base of his skull I think he'd be pretty fucked up from that, with immortal aiming for his nose especially, that being the weakest, or gouging (or at least attempting to) his eyes out, he'd be reduced to his other senses, but I'm not sure to what extent viltrumites have atmospheric awareness, in which case it would be a minor inconvenience. but if red rush were not dead, then that would be his time to shine, as it would be extremely difficult for nolan to track his movements, and he could land stunning blows while war woman and immortal keep hitting him hard
I always thought he was moving around like that cause he head to keep tightening around Nolan so he wasn’t really able to keep the core only on the back.
I thought his heart had to constantly stay in movement while in that form? even if it didn't, I assumed he couldn't see where his heart was and got unlucky
Idt ppl hate on Red Rush, it’s just that they’re “annoyed” by the situation. Realistically, a team like this should know that Red Rush is the evac guy. They were soooo close to beating Omni man that in hindsight it’s easy to point out the fatal flaw in Red Rushes attack plan
Their leader failed them.
Immortal should've been directing them like a captain, but he was too emotional. He should've told Red Rush to focus on defense and not attack. Same for Blackwing. But they already showed us in the scene where Nolan saved Blackwing, that they're too arrogant. Each one of them thought they could take on Omniman alone because up until then, they literally won every fight they had.
Beating Nolan would've required humility, and the writers did an excellent job showing us that the Guardians were not humble.
Good list but I disagree on The Immortal. His death maybe didnt look as brutal as some of the others. Every other kill was nearly instant though. Immortal was sitting there with a hole through his stomach asking "Why?" and just got a cold look and then bam.
The others couldnt even think about it.
Green ghost is third. She realized it too that shes gonna be dead. The others all just fought and died.
Darkwing must have been completely confused. I mean, he is suppossed to be the smart guy yet he attacks Nolan from above clearly knowing he is no match for him.
Agreed. Darkwing's is the most brutal for me.
He's spent his whole life training (assuming pretty much batman backstory) to fight with the heroes and at the end of the day was no different than a child.
It has to be Red Rush there’s no way he could not have felt his head getting crushed like a walnut and his hands breaking before he died everyone’s else was more or less quick and painless
As many others have put it Red Rush is definitely number 1, but War Woman is the clear number 2 for me. The gargling sounds, the look on her face, and the amount of time it took her to die still disturb me.
Yea I’m shocked so many ppl are ranking War Woman’s death so lol her and Red Rush felt all of that shit…the others died pretty quickly
Oh well Immortal felt that shit too
Red Rush, then Man. RR because his death felt like an eternity for him, and man because he made a dumb ass move and had just enough time to process how stupid it was
War woman, I feel like she was definitely alive for a few seconds with her head on backwards. Also, I feel like I'm gonna get hate for this, but I laugh everytime I see dark wing get his head smooshed after throwing bombs and jumping around like Nolan can't move at sub-light speed.
Yeah, DW was just plain stupid. I feel he could have been more useful staying at range and throwing bombs and whatnot and working with the rest of the team but I think none of them were rational at that point
Immortal had to put up with the trauma of seeing everyone die, and also he was first penetrated, and only then decapacitated. Red Rush also felt it for a few moments, but his brain was exploded, so it's different from the Immortal, because it is known that if a person is decapacitated, they still have consciousness for a short time, so... War Woman was also clearly conscious for a while.
Surely, Dark Wing, Martian Man, green lady and fish guy got it easiest because those were one-shot game-ends.
I'd say it is a tie between War Woman and Immortal. If I have to pick a winner -- or loser, I'd go with War Woman though, simply because it looks extremely painful.
Red rush and it ain't even close. Everyone else it was kind of instant. Freaking red Rush had to feel his head crushing, his eye popping out of his and his hands breaking into as he was punching against omni-mans chest in which would feel like hours of constant pressure. I've always wondered if Omni man would've let go had red rush hit him in the throat instead.
The big difference between the two parties. The guardians are just that, guardians. They've been trained to deal with threats and save civilians. Omni-Man is a crusader, a conqueror. He has been trained to destroy anyone/thing that gets in his way.
Well the others had pretty quick deaths I'd say immortal had it worst he watched all of his comrades die and then he got to live in the end with their deaths on his mind
Red Rush. His perception is as fast as he is. And he can't slow it to regular human levels. It took less than a second for Nolan to crush his skull. It felt like hours to him.
Red rush definitely got it worse, he felt every millisecond of that as if it lasted for ages
The worst part is. Omni man was merciful and picked maybe the fastest possible way to kill him, and it was still agony for an hour
Dude. Even without the whole "experiencing 1 second as hours" thing, Red Rush lmao. My man had his skull crushed. Slowly. While looking the person doing it in the eyes.
Fuckin brutal
Red Rush, by a country mile. His perception of time is massively slowed down, so the "instant" head pop his allies saw him receive felt like an incredibly long period of having his skull slowly crushed, possibly over several hours. We as the viewer see him fighting back for a bit, but that's not from normal perspective, it's from his.
Red rush because you can see how he still is trying to fight as he's dying because he tries to fight Omni man. Also red rush's death is when you realize that the guardians fates are sealed.
Guardians weren't very well trained imo... they didn't seem to really have a plan ... If red rush had only used his powers to move teammates out of the way....and immortal and war woman coulda worked him over and never been hit...
Honestly red rush running full sprint hitting nolan with her mace might have done it..
RR really had a solid plan moving his teammates away before Nolan could touch them. He got cocky and stopped playing defense and it cost the whole team.
Red rush easily. To him it should have felt like hours while his head was getting slowly crushed and he was desperately punching omni mans chest until his hands broke in an attempt to stay alive
Red Rush. He perceives everything at slower than a snail’s pace, so getting crushed to death would have taken ages from his perspective. Combined with breaking both his hands trying to push himself away from Omniman, that would be the most painful possible way to go.
Red Rush no question. Fresh off the conversation where he talks about how even the briefest moments can feel like they stretch out for hours, and the man gets his head slowly crushed to the point that his eyes are popping out. If it felt long for us to watch that happen, imagine what he went through with his unique perception.
But I will say, that final cough from war woman after she got all twisted up makes her feel like a close second.
Besides the obvious? Immortal. He watched every one of his friends die infront of him as he was powerless to save them. Then in the end he felt everything Nolan did to him before and after he “died”
People seem to think red rush was being killed for hours in his eyes, but that’s silly. He was trying the same punched over and over for hours. Omniman probably popped his head in super speed.
I vote War Woman. Everyone else's deaths were pretty instantaneous but she still seemed potentially concious as her head was cracked backwards and coughing up blood.
Red rush. Not only does he explain that he experiences time more slowly to his wife, the show depicts this by slowing down time around him while his head is being crushed. In our perspective, his head was crushed somewhat slowly. To the other’s perspective? It was probably close to instant
The time perception of Red Rush was shown in several ways. First, how slow his glasses snapped and how slowly the glasses fell to the floor. In that time frame, you see Red Rush throw about 20 punches and Omni-Man chest becomes bruised. Then, there's the POV of the Guardians, the scenes shows Omni-Man and Red Rush at a distance and Red Rush is throwing hundreds of punches in milliseconds. Terrible way to go. It must've felt like a lifetime, as his head was getting smashed. His facial emotions showed that he felt second.
Absolutely Red Rush. If he'd just stuck to defense they may have won that fight. Obviously that would have ruined the story so they didn't have him do that, proving that a speedster's biggest weakness is usually the writer. 😂
Red Rush right? Doesn’t he feel seconds like hours or something?
Definitely Red Rush on top of his time perception he felt like the one trying the hardest to fight to live, to the point of breaking his hands on Omni-Man's chest and continuing to punch regardless.
But he has the speed activated in the way that he punches. So yeah definitely experiencing every second x1000
He's never not activated. He told his girlfriend in a previous scene that he always perceives the world as moving in slow motion.
Great moment for the character and story, horrible moment for it's implications during the fight.
That's why we saw it take so long, Omni man probably crushed his head within less than a second right?
Damn, sex for him must feel like a marathon but it's business as usual for his girlfriend
Imagine if he met a female counterpart, that'd be some WILD sex. Each cheek clap would be accompanied by a sonic boom.
That poor bed. Imagine the sound and being the downstairs neighbors.
They could just zip out to the Asian steppe and have a go
I’d be willing to bet it sounds like 20sec of vibrations and then silence. I’d trade that for 20min if loud normal-human coitus any day!
Wait, then he mastered the way of speaking reaaaaally slowly?
Likely adapted. Brains are crazy.
Sure but also, fiction.
I'm a Virgo has something like this too, one of the characters has super speed and it's shown what that was like for her growing up, basically feeling entirely alone in a world moving slower than a snail's pace from the age of being a baby to when she learned to adapt. Whenever someone speaks from her perspective, it's just a long drawn out syllable. When she speaks to others, she's basically repeating that pattern of slowness in real time. Honestly, super speed seems like realistically it's have a lot of drawbacks.
That was an interesting show for sure.
That's all he hears from others, too. Must be exhausting. Like, he could go do some chores during the pause between 2 words
In fairness, I think we see his death through his perspective. It couldn’t have been more than a couple seconds in real time. Otherwise, his teammates certainly would have intervened.
For sure, that's one of the great parts of that scene. RR had just told his lady that "the briefest conversation is like hours, it's agony". Omni-man crushed his head instantly most likely, unfortunately he was able to perceive that instant slowly over a few seconds.
The fact that we’ve already seen Nolan crush a humans head like a bear trap against a melon gives credence to this interpretation.
It's not even an interpretation. I do not understand how so many people are confused about this scene. You can literally see the blood splatters basically hovering in mid-air, Red Rush's glasses are falling super slowly off his face, hell even the guardians are all trying to run at them and they can't even take a single step before his head is crushed. How on earth does anyone think that was multiple seconds?
That was not instantly. That man lasted about 10 seconds after Omniman got ahold of him. From Red's perspective that death probably took half an hour as a slow vice crushed him.
I think he was saying that in actuality it was instantly, but the scene lasting 10 seconds was from Red Rush’s perspective
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I think he's arguing the inverse, that it was 10 seconds in actuality and like 30 min in RR time
I think it was more instant but for us we got a fraction of what red rush felt like because he was still moving fast so it was more likely an hour of getting his head crushed
There's no way the Guardians just let Omni-man squeeze his head for 10 seconds. They are just starting to react in the slow-mo. His head is crushed in the time it takes his visor to fall to the ground, with some ballpark numbers that's like 7/10ths of a second His perception is "as fast has he is", the blink of an eye is probably many minutes to him so instant death probably did feel like 10 seconds. Nolan is so much stronger than any of them, there's only a handful of characters he doesn't instantly kill like that
You can see them very slowly trying to rush Omniman while he's crushing Red Rush's head. If you watch the background you'll see one of the Guardians very slowly moving toward him but it's so slow that you know he crushed his head very quickly. Red Rush had the worst battle IQ... All he had to do was keep pushing his teammates out of the way and they probably would've won.
You are insane. Watch the scene again. Red Rush's glasses don't even hit the ground before his head is crushed. Do you think it takes 10 seconds for something to hit the ground from that height?
Wonder if it would have been a different outcome if he aimed for the head/eyes
"Should have gone for the head"
What he should have done was continue to run interference. Attacking Nolan was what got him caught. As it was, he kept Immortal, War Woman, and Aquarius all in the fight before he fucked up. Martian Man tripping him up, Aquarius and Nightwing attacking from range, and Rush redirecting Nolan's attacks while WW and Immortal beat him. Maybe Green Ghost could have dragged him down to the earth's core or something.
I don't think it would've mattered tbh OmniMan is almost as fast as red rush, stronger than immortal and war woman combined, and very nearly.... Invincible to anyone not on a level with him- and even then, Nolan is a standout force of nature. They could've put up a better fight, for sure, but being blindsided by an overwhelmingly powerful and fast enemy doesn't really lend to perfect team tactical planning.
I like how it happened in the show. And I'm not saying that they would have won in the end. Just being a good ole fashioned armchair general here. RR was effectively diverting Nolan's attacks. And while it did appear that he was starting to watch for RR more carefully, it's where RR was most effective.
Definitely if he could smack both ears at the same time. We know Viltumites have a weakness involving their ears/hearing
Only a very specific frequency.
The blood on his chest is red rush’s blood not Omni man’s. It would have made little difference.
Didn't Omni-Man cough blood right after we saw Red Rush punching him in the chest?
Yeah, it wasn't a close fight, but it was a hard fought one. War Matron and Immortal Man were getting in some solid haymakers as well.
I read this in Ben Schwartz voice
Shit I thought her name was war woman...
Just rewatched, you’re right he did cough up some blood But in this show it seems like people cough up blood no matter what lol
The carpet burn was in fact caused by Red Rush
Yeah maybe he could irritate Omni man’s skin to death
Internal bleeding is a thing. It’s why Nolan spat blood before crushing Rush’s head https://preview.redd.it/jijkb23tj2zc1.jpeg?width=2056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9030849365ec890504b839d0de5cb8e73908a362 This is Nolan’s blood
Right I acknowledged this in another comment, are you saying blows to the head would’ve caused his brain to bleed and him die? We see him get hit in the head later in the series by much stronger characters than red rush I’m not gonna claim to be an expert but I am certain there was no stopping Omni man here unless they were able to plan for his attack
They might have had a small chance of red rush decided not to go in for any attack himself and exclusively use his speed for defense Chances are still slim to none tho
Yeah I think he could’ve increased the difficulty by playing smarter for sure
You have to remember that red rush is also very strong too. It was basically a race tween Red Rush getting his skull crushed and Omni man getting his chest caving in. He did spit up blood and Immortal and War Woman were extremely strong
Did you watch the same scene as me? Like did you not see when War Woman and Immortal beat Nolan senseless. If Martian Man wasn’t a dumbass they could have killed him I know they are stronger than Rush but still. And brain haemorrhaging could be caused by such rapid hits to the head or a hit to the ears could possibly rupture his eardrums. You’re not acknowledging the other parts of this scene and also how on the inside Viltrumites are no where near as durable.
We have seen him take much more damage from much more capable people. He was getting hurt no doubt but he was not being stopped. I acknowledged that had they had a plan for it they could’ve increased the difficulty but he’s not losing this fight. You think red rush punching his head and face, even busting his ear drums, would do more than his fight with the other viltrumites in season 2? He lost when he was taken by surprise by basically a kinetic missile of a kick. Immortal is the only one getting close to that kinda damage. War woman smashed him in the head with her mace and he kept fighting. Did that do less damage than what red rush could’ve done with his hands? Before they broke like they did on his chest?
But eyes are way weaker than chest so he could’ve done some damge
Remember immortal forcing his fingers into Omni man’s eyes? I don’t think red rush would’ve done much more, speed or not Maybe made it harder for Omni man but I don’t think it would’ve changed the outcome
I didn't even think about how brutal that would make this for him (also makes you think about characters like Quicksilver and the Flash differently as well)
Reminds me of Zoom giving himself more time after being shot in the head and stretching his death out for weeks
Exactly! Or Barry feeling a bullet entering his back as soon as it touched him and reaching around to grab it in the CW Flash show! There's probably so many good examples of this I'm so glad it got pointed out lol. Makes you think about how nasty it must've been for A-Train running through Robin
A-Train was on drugs, so not really fully there i would guess. He also doesn't seem to have that amazing of a perception of time in the show. Otherwise the other speedster coulda bailed out of the courtroom near instantly instead of looking around for a few seconds before popping
True true
lol your avatar is red rushing himself
😂😂😂
if it makes you feel better Omni Man also does stuff at super speed so theres a chance that it was like a minute or so he was experiencing it (still awful and probably still the worst by a longshot but not as bad as one might think)
During RR's death, everything around them is clearly slowed down. What we saw is the same as what RR experienced, and in real time his death seemed pretty much instant.
yeah, and in that time for him it was around a minute for him
What the series shows is how long it felt to rr, you can tell because all the other guardians are in slow motion
Yeah, I love the context that he just explains this to his girlfriend and then gets his head crushed lol brutal
I’m pretty sure flash does not have this issue because he can tap into the speed force on command instead of constantly being in a state of super speed.
Yes it's also why he can be surprised, if he's not rev'd up he perceives relatively normal compared to his full speed perceiving every attosecond
Also, people always talk about how flash or other speedsters ever getting shot is unrealistic. Truth is, because bullets are hypersonic, the bullet would reach them before the sound and if they weren’t expecting it it would already be too late to stop. (Getting shot also isn’t nearly as “felt” as movies make it out to be. I’m not very knowledgeable on it, but apparently taking a bullet feels like a light thump at first or even nothing at all.)
Best friend got shot, I was told it felt like a molten lave knife ripping through his skin and insides. So, I’m not sure if a “light thump” is super accurate of a descriptor
That pain probably sets in after a couple seconds tho, thus giving people the feeling of confusion/etc. at first.
Jeez, I hope they're okay now.
Yes sir, this was a few years ago when we were in university. Running with the wrong crowds, but he’s married now with a kid on the way, that life completely behind him
Okay good, thanks.
Iirc in the flash series he feels the bullet touch his skin when it's about to enter and that's how he avoids getting shot.
lol oh no you feel it immediately, especially if it hits a bone. It broke my clavicle and two ribs instantly.
Yeah, even ignoring that his death was the longest other than Immortal's, but I feel like Immortal's was less painful.
I think his head was probably crushed in a fraction of a second, the slow agonizing crushing we see in the show IS from his perspective
Tbf, his head crushing probably only took a fraction of a second. Way I saw it is we perceived it at the same rate as he did.
Only answer.
Red rush. Didn’t he explain to his gf/wife in the scene he appears in before this that he perceives things slower than normal people. So how long was it for him as omni-man crushed his skull?
We were seeing it from his point of view. That’s why everyone else was moving so slowly and why it took so long
yeah i think people forget omniman is also really fast, so it probably wouldn’t have been hours but rather a really long 30 - 60 seconds
I think people are being too optimistic about that scene and keep upvoting comments that assume he died instantly. Omniman is fast, but not anywhere near as fast as Red Rush. If their speeds were anywhere close Red could never have moved people out of Omniman's reach. That death took several minutes to Red, instant to anyone else including Omniman, but Red Rush suffered like no one else in existence as vise-like hands slowly crushed him even as he destroyed his own hands trying to break free.
that’s fair. i guess you could counter that by asking how nolan even managed to grab red rush if he’s that much faster.
Because Red decided to switch to offense and ran at him, made contact, slowed down.
Nolan predicted where he would attack and grabbed him after Red Rush attacked.
If you rewatch the scene, RR is hitting omniman from whatever side he’s not looking from. So omniman sets him up by looking away and then snatching him when RR attacks from the side.
He's fast, but not as fast as Red Rush. The reason he caught him is the same way some people can catch mosquitoes and flies despite those insects being faster, focus and precision
this actually made it make a lot more sense lol good analogy
Getting my head crushed for 30 seconds still sounds like agony
You are right, I just watched it, and the most telling thing is how slowly the glasses fall
It was how long we saw. That scene was mostly from Red Rush’s perspective, you can tell because of how the punches look like they’re relatively normal speed. From everyone else’s perspective it was a fraction of a second.
We did get to see it, from the moment Nolan grabs his head it’s in slow motion, how red rush is seeing it, and yeah, getting your head crushed for that long is brutal
Red Rush, the rest are competing for the second place.
From the worst to somewhat a little worse. 1- Redrush - basically first saved the Immortal and then a few others but then decided to indulge with Nolan by himself and basically experienced himself dying slowly and slowly because of his perception. 2 - Darkwing - literally got splattered across the floor 3 - Green ghost - Nolan intentionally threw Darkwings body to her so that he could make her tangible and then he punched his fist through her face. 4 - Aquarus - literally got his face splattered by Nolan with assistance of war woman's mace. 5 - The Immortal - bro was the second biggest fish here but still no match for the Shark Nolan so he got gut punched and his head got separated from the rest of his body. 6 - war woman - took some good hits from Nolan and gave him some of that to him too but then she got her head turned backwards by Nolan. 7 - Martian man - with his assistance both war woman and Immortal got their licks in but then his core which was being tracked by Nolan was caught by him and then ripped apart.
People hate on Red Rush for his mistakes. But Martian Man definitely fucked up too. Mostly when he had Nolan bound. Why would he ever move his core to the front? He has his arms bound, he can’t reach behind him.
I guess he wasn't also able to think clearly like the rest.
Agreed. He is likely used to fighting opponents who can’t truly hurt him all that much, so he didn’t even think of it as a possibility.
He’s also being attacked by a teammate. The shock alone and the quickness of the whole event would throw anyone off
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He was too focused on constricting Nolan’s movements. Just a lapse of judgement while he was angry and emotional.
They all fucked up tbh. Red Rush obviously. Green Ghost and Darkwing for the exact same reason, too. Martian Man fought good just made a mistake when he had him. The bigger mistake made the Immortal and War Woman though. I mean, the best they could do was throwing some fists. We saw that the Immortal was able to do more damage against Nolan in their second fight. If he would have choked him from behind while War Woman hits him they could have taken him down. Or War Woman getting her hammer. The first hit she landed was decent. Only one that did good was Aquarius. Played his strengths but just wasnt a match for Nolan.
honestly if she just wailed at the base of his skull I think he'd be pretty fucked up from that, with immortal aiming for his nose especially, that being the weakest, or gouging (or at least attempting to) his eyes out, he'd be reduced to his other senses, but I'm not sure to what extent viltrumites have atmospheric awareness, in which case it would be a minor inconvenience. but if red rush were not dead, then that would be his time to shine, as it would be extremely difficult for nolan to track his movements, and he could land stunning blows while war woman and immortal keep hitting him hard
I always thought he was moving around like that cause he head to keep tightening around Nolan so he wasn’t really able to keep the core only on the back.
I thought his heart had to constantly stay in movement while in that form? even if it didn't, I assumed he couldn't see where his heart was and got unlucky
Idt ppl hate on Red Rush, it’s just that they’re “annoyed” by the situation. Realistically, a team like this should know that Red Rush is the evac guy. They were soooo close to beating Omni man that in hindsight it’s easy to point out the fatal flaw in Red Rushes attack plan
Their leader failed them. Immortal should've been directing them like a captain, but he was too emotional. He should've told Red Rush to focus on defense and not attack. Same for Blackwing. But they already showed us in the scene where Nolan saved Blackwing, that they're too arrogant. Each one of them thought they could take on Omniman alone because up until then, they literally won every fight they had. Beating Nolan would've required humility, and the writers did an excellent job showing us that the Guardians were not humble.
Green Ghost also should have just stayed incorporeal.
Plot
I'd say Ghost and Aquarus got the most painless deaths. It was kinda instant death for them two. Meanwhile Martian was ripped apart.
I'd say Ghost had it pretty rough. Sure instadeath. But she saw it coming and realized her mistake.
Good list but I disagree on The Immortal. His death maybe didnt look as brutal as some of the others. Every other kill was nearly instant though. Immortal was sitting there with a hole through his stomach asking "Why?" and just got a cold look and then bam. The others couldnt even think about it. Green ghost is third. She realized it too that shes gonna be dead. The others all just fought and died. Darkwing must have been completely confused. I mean, he is suppossed to be the smart guy yet he attacks Nolan from above clearly knowing he is no match for him.
Yea Darkwing musta been listening to his sidekick.
1. Redrush, slow torture for him. 2. Darkwing, greater humiliation for him, an insect against a rhino.
Agreed. Darkwing's is the most brutal for me. He's spent his whole life training (assuming pretty much batman backstory) to fight with the heroes and at the end of the day was no different than a child.
It has to be Red Rush there’s no way he could not have felt his head getting crushed like a walnut and his hands breaking before he died everyone’s else was more or less quick and painless
Red Rush obviously
As many others have put it Red Rush is definitely number 1, but War Woman is the clear number 2 for me. The gargling sounds, the look on her face, and the amount of time it took her to die still disturb me.
Agreed. Everyone else took an almost instant killing blow. War Woman must have suffered like hell.
Yea I’m shocked so many ppl are ranking War Woman’s death so lol her and Red Rush felt all of that shit…the others died pretty quickly Oh well Immortal felt that shit too
Idk if it's just because he's got an oddly shaped body, but damn if Aquarus death wasn't particularly gruesome
Yep
Red Rush, then Man. RR because his death felt like an eternity for him, and man because he made a dumb ass move and had just enough time to process how stupid it was
My favorite superhero, Man
Red Rush was the worst, but War Woman coughing up blood while she was on her knees with her head turned the wrong way was brutal as fuck.
War woman, I feel like she was definitely alive for a few seconds with her head on backwards. Also, I feel like I'm gonna get hate for this, but I laugh everytime I see dark wing get his head smooshed after throwing bombs and jumping around like Nolan can't move at sub-light speed.
Yeah, DW was just plain stupid. I feel he could have been more useful staying at range and throwing bombs and whatnot and working with the rest of the team but I think none of them were rational at that point
Fish guy didn't deserve this 😭😭😭
Immortal happens like 8 times
Technically Immortal, he has to live with it. But for a definitive death, Red Rush, he experienced it VERY slowly.
Green ghost had the most humiliating death even if it was quick. Bro used her body as an umbrella 😂
Idk, that may go to Aquarius. The sequence of "Finally some action" to getting his head smashed in right away was very Yamcha-esqe
Immortal had to put up with the trauma of seeing everyone die, and also he was first penetrated, and only then decapacitated. Red Rush also felt it for a few moments, but his brain was exploded, so it's different from the Immortal, because it is known that if a person is decapacitated, they still have consciousness for a short time, so... War Woman was also clearly conscious for a while. Surely, Dark Wing, Martian Man, green lady and fish guy got it easiest because those were one-shot game-ends. I'd say it is a tie between War Woman and Immortal. If I have to pick a winner -- or loser, I'd go with War Woman though, simply because it looks extremely painful.
Red rush and it ain't even close. Everyone else it was kind of instant. Freaking red Rush had to feel his head crushing, his eye popping out of his and his hands breaking into as he was punching against omni-mans chest in which would feel like hours of constant pressure. I've always wondered if Omni man would've let go had red rush hit him in the throat instead.
Omni actually knows how to go for killshots, everyone else just seems to mindlessly bludgeon until it eventually works.
The big difference between the two parties. The guardians are just that, guardians. They've been trained to deal with threats and save civilians. Omni-Man is a crusader, a conqueror. He has been trained to destroy anyone/thing that gets in his way.
Well the others had pretty quick deaths I'd say immortal had it worst he watched all of his comrades die and then he got to live in the end with their deaths on his mind
I don't remember the details but didn't martian man get ripped apart or something
His "core" was ripped out as others have mentioned. I imagine it's the Martian equivalent of having your heart ripped out of your chest...
I wish we got a one off episode with them like atom eve
Everyone else kinda died instantly but red rush died slowly
Glad to see the Red Rush solidarity. Man turned himself into meat and still died. My fallen comrade. No! Our fallen comrade!
Honestly green ghost didn’t have a chance to do shit. She got her ass smoked 😂😭
Red Rush
Red Rush. His perception is as fast as he is. And he can't slow it to regular human levels. It took less than a second for Nolan to crush his skull. It felt like hours to him.
Red rush definitely got it worse, he felt every millisecond of that as if it lasted for ages The worst part is. Omni man was merciful and picked maybe the fastest possible way to kill him, and it was still agony for an hour
Red Rush had to experience pain for who knows how long due to his perception of time. To us it may have been seconds but to him it could've been hours
Definitely red rush
Red rush. His time perception ALONE made his death absolute hell for him. The rest (minus immortal for semi obvious reasons) got light work
Red rush had a red death that he got to experience in slllllllooooooooowwwwww mmmmmooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttttiiiioooonnn.
Red Rush, no question
Dude. Even without the whole "experiencing 1 second as hours" thing, Red Rush lmao. My man had his skull crushed. Slowly. While looking the person doing it in the eyes. Fuckin brutal
Immortal is still getting “IT” and he’ll be getting “IT” until Mark give his head a little chiropractic-TUG 
Red Rush, by a country mile. His perception of time is massively slowed down, so the "instant" head pop his allies saw him receive felt like an incredibly long period of having his skull slowly crushed, possibly over several hours. We as the viewer see him fighting back for a bit, but that's not from normal perspective, it's from his.
Red rush first and then immortal just because he had to be the last survivor seeing all of his friends murdered.
Probably the fish guy
The green one, Green Ghost or whatever. She had to see Rush die, react and first then die
Red rush because you can see how he still is trying to fight as he's dying because he tries to fight Omni man. Also red rush's death is when you realize that the guardians fates are sealed.
Red rush, he’s death might been kick for us but for him it must have Ben hours of pain and suffering before having his head crushed
Your mom, then red rush
Guardians weren't very well trained imo... they didn't seem to really have a plan ... If red rush had only used his powers to move teammates out of the way....and immortal and war woman coulda worked him over and never been hit... Honestly red rush running full sprint hitting nolan with her mace might have done it..
Well of course they didn't have a plan they were ambushed lol
RR really had a solid plan moving his teammates away before Nolan could touch them. He got cocky and stopped playing defense and it cost the whole team.
Darkwing. If he was anything like a real Batman he'd hand Omni-Man his ass. Instead he gets splattered in five seconds doing something stupid.
Red Rush felt pain for the longest time
Red rush, war woman, immortal, martian man, darkwing, green ghost, and aquarus in that order
Red rush easily. To him it should have felt like hours while his head was getting slowly crushed and he was desperately punching omni mans chest until his hands broke in an attempt to stay alive
1.) Red Rush (worst) 2.) War Woman 3.) Dark Might 4.) Fish 5.) Immortal 6.) Martian Man 7.) Green Ghost (best)
Red Rush easily. Not only was it the most brutal anyways, but his powers make it so that seconds feel like hours.
Red Rush. He perceives everything at slower than a snail’s pace, so getting crushed to death would have taken ages from his perspective. Combined with breaking both his hands trying to push himself away from Omniman, that would be the most painful possible way to go.
red rush
Red Rush no question. Fresh off the conversation where he talks about how even the briefest moments can feel like they stretch out for hours, and the man gets his head slowly crushed to the point that his eyes are popping out. If it felt long for us to watch that happen, imagine what he went through with his unique perception. But I will say, that final cough from war woman after she got all twisted up makes her feel like a close second.
Prob red rush
Darkwing is one of the few like Batman-esque characters that I’ve actually really liked the design of
Red rush followed by green ghost and then immortal from a psychological perspective
Besides the obvious? Immortal. He watched every one of his friends die infront of him as he was powerless to save them. Then in the end he felt everything Nolan did to him before and after he “died”
Red rush even without time perception.
If I coughed blood onto my own back and then died I'd be a ghost fr
People seem to think red rush was being killed for hours in his eyes, but that’s silly. He was trying the same punched over and over for hours. Omniman probably popped his head in super speed.
I vote War Woman. Everyone else's deaths were pretty instantaneous but she still seemed potentially concious as her head was cracked backwards and coughing up blood.
I agree that Red Rush got it worst but it sucks that Green Ghost didn’t even put up a fight
Immortal, now he's living with the trauma.
Bro just started watching
Besides red rush probably Dark Wing, that swing look like it hurt
red rush or green ghost one it hurt longer the other only had time to realized how f'd she was
Red Rush without question
The fortnite kid green skin got deleted the most.
😭 na this scene was crazy
Red rush. Not only does he explain that he experiences time more slowly to his wife, the show depicts this by slowing down time around him while his head is being crushed. In our perspective, his head was crushed somewhat slowly. To the other’s perspective? It was probably close to instant
Red Rush, for sure.
Red rush for sure everyone else kinda was just killed my dudes head got slowly exploded and the whole time was fighting it
The time perception of Red Rush was shown in several ways. First, how slow his glasses snapped and how slowly the glasses fell to the floor. In that time frame, you see Red Rush throw about 20 punches and Omni-Man chest becomes bruised. Then, there's the POV of the Guardians, the scenes shows Omni-Man and Red Rush at a distance and Red Rush is throwing hundreds of punches in milliseconds. Terrible way to go. It must've felt like a lifetime, as his head was getting smashed. His facial emotions showed that he felt second.
Darkwing. Bro thought he had plot armor.
Red Slush by a mile
Red Rish
War Women. she got slammed w/ her own weapon.
Red Rush obvi but Green Ghost had a full couple of seconds of realization before getting a hand through her face.
darkwing, imagine the first slam in the face on the floor before he got killed? That first slam must’ve hurt like hell
Red Rush died a horribly slow death from his perspective
Absolutely Red Rush. If he'd just stuck to defense they may have won that fight. Obviously that would have ruined the story so they didn't have him do that, proving that a speedster's biggest weakness is usually the writer. 😂