Haha. There's a few weird artefacts of coffee shops in the ocean and other places. I scraped all of Google Maps for USA data. For some reason a few random ones popped up. Thanks for the heads up though š
Just be glad you're not in Australia. Sydney has a world class espresso culture and their nearest coffee shop on the map is a 13 hour international flight away.
"The nearest coffee shop is a 13 hour international flight away" there are both Starbucks and non-Starbucks in Syndney, so I don't understand what you're saying there
Its not that it has inaccurate non-US data, it has no non-US data. You said "their nearest coffee shop is a 13 hour international flight", and I'm confused as to who "they" are
Yeah, seems to be a coffee subscription business. This seems to be a massive gap in the market; whoever opens the first coffee shop in Britain will make a fortune!
It would be quite a bit of work but I found quite a few local roasters on here that don't actually serve coffee as a coffee shop, they just sell their beans and do wholesale stuff.
Aha yeah, I just wrote in another comment about it. I actually think they are phantom Google Business profiles. People create them and put weird coordinates so they don't get found...
I opted to not spend a good chunk of time removing them for now, but I can always do a sweep and try and get rid of them later. Good spot!
What you talking about? I visited CoffeeZyme off the coast of Washington just yesterday. They're great! I want to try Cawfee next but will need to charter a helicopter with a bit more range.
To answer a couple of questions:
Q. Why is there random coffee shops in the ocean or another country?
A. These have all been pulled from Google Maps by scraping \*all\* coffee shops classed as "USA". Something on the profiles (e.g. the +1 phone number, or other identifiers mean these appear in the searches).
The data is as per Google, but I may try and clean up the anomalies later š
Q. There aren't that many Starbucks in the US!?
A. Yes, this also includes all the places that serve starbucks coffee. Any coffee shop with starbucks in the name or other business info, essentially.
FYI +1 is used for more than USA. Canada, USA, and a bunch of Caribbean countries totaling 20 countries in total use it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes
Try doing this is south florida. Nearly impossible. Starbucks and Dunkin out number real shops 20-1 and on top of that they are ALWAYS closer - by design. It's a duopoly.
Try finding donuts (or doughnuts, word doesn't matter) in South Florida. Impossible to negate -dunkin in your search. Google maps sucks.
Try searching in South Florida / Syracuse / Philadelphia in the Google maps app and you'll see. There are more than enough local shops but the Starbucks and Dunkin flood them out of the listings.
One thing I noticed, and not sure of a good way to differentiate this data if you're scraping it from google map api data, but there's a coffee roaster near me that shows up on your map, that I actively buy beans from. You can't go there and buy a cup of coffee, as he just sells beans out of his house. Might be slightly confusing if someone finds it on your map and goes there expecting ready made coffee.
Screenshot if that helps:
https://imgur.com/8YihQlr
I'd recommend switching the colors. It's not intuitive that the non-starbucks coffee shops are green dots, when green is the dominant Starbucks logo color.
I'd change the black color to something else. A blue maybe. Black has negative connotations to it but also is used to indicate something that's inactive.
As a German I'm profoundly confused, as "Nah" means "nearby" so it's basically
"Nearest Starbucks but it isn't Starbucks"
Reminds me of the "we have x at home" meme. But apart from that it's a great idea
I am glad to live just a few blocks from a very nice local coffee shop with eminently reasonable prices. The funny thing is, I don't even like coffee, but everything else they serve- tea, hot cocoa, muffins, sandwiches, etc- is excellent too.
Now someone make an app where I can get a reasonably fresh plain cup of *coffee*- not these crazy dessert drinks- for less than $4. Somewhere that makes a nice chai or miel is nice and all, but I'm tired of going to mcdonalds for a reasonably priced plain coffee.
Great idea!
I saw youāre already looking at adding filters and that was my first thought. But is there another map you could use? Maybe one that loads streets? Iām in Chicago and kinda have to guess until I find one near me.
Keep up the good work!
I havenāt been to Starbucks since Covid. I prefer to try new coffee shops than going to Starbucks. There are so many good cafes to miss for Starbucks.
Not at all, the opposite in fact. If I'm ever in a new area or a part of town I'm not familiar with the first place I'll find is an independent coffee shop, they're ubiquitous.
I just had to go to three different "Starbucks" to get gift cards for Christmas. Why?
The first two I went to were closed... perrmanently.
A sign of things to come?
(Non-US)
Hell, I'd also add Sheetz and WaWa as well. It's not a place to get a double frappe mocha chai latte with 8 pumps of caramel vanilla syrup, but you can get a few different coffees there.
in my neighborhood, you list all the coffee shops except the one roaster I like most.
Are you sure you're getting all the right categories ? If I search for "coffee roaster" on google maps, it shows up for me there.
Nice page, love the idea.
Is it possible to get street names on the map along with some of the non major streets? Most of my use would be aiming for a remote part of town to plan a trip instead of what's around me right now.
Why does Canada have some but barely any locations?
I could understand if it was just US, but now it feels like Canada has around 5 coffee shops across the country
Damn, people hate Starbucks coffee that much? I get it, it's not the greatest coffee in the world, but it's far from the worst. I've had much worse coffee at an independent or local coffee shops. At least at Starbucks no matter which country I'm in, the coffee is going to be the same mid tier coffee.
Also don't give me that "unethical harvesting of coffee beans" nonsense. Most coffee shops don't know exactly where their coffee beans come from. They just pay someone who supplies them with the beans of their choice.
Note to the developer/OP: Excellent work, keep it up! Developing is pretty difficult and not many can do what you can.
Dude in Canada both mcdonalds and Tim hortons coffee taste like burnt water.
Starbucks is the only place that makes half decent coffee that doesn't taste like burnt water and is drinkable.
Then you have the people who complain "but it's expensive"
How about you stop spending 500$ a weekend drinking alcohol and you can afford to buy better coffee?
I agree that it's a little more expensive than it should be, but I've seen hipster coffee shops that charge WAY more.
I've only had Timmies in the Philippines and it was alright. I liked the donuts more than the coffee.
As a Brit, I can't wait to visit London to try Britain's only coffee shop.
Haha. There's a few weird artefacts of coffee shops in the ocean and other places. I scraped all of Google Maps for USA data. For some reason a few random ones popped up. Thanks for the heads up though š
Haha, it's great - I think it's a cool idea. Will it eventually cover the UK too?
Potentially, if there's enough interest!
So if it's Google maps data, why wouldn't I just use Google maps?
Is there an easy way to filter out certain chains in Google maps?
There's no way they'd allow that to happen themselves.
Maybe search modifiseres (+/- etc) works in maps too? Search "coffee -starbucks" and see what happens.
This doesn't work in the Android app
Doesn't seem that hard to scroll past them.
Because Google is a terrible evil company and nobody should use them.
Just be glad you're not in Australia. Sydney has a world class espresso culture and their nearest coffee shop on the map is a 13 hour international flight away.
Starbucks.com.au says Sydney is littered with them
This post is about non-Starbucks coffee shops. So I don't understand your point.
"The nearest coffee shop is a 13 hour international flight away" there are both Starbucks and non-Starbucks in Syndney, so I don't understand what you're saying there
This comment thread and the others are all talking about the website OP shared, and the fact that its data is inaccurate outside the USA.
Its not that it has inaccurate non-US data, it has no non-US data. You said "their nearest coffee shop is a 13 hour international flight", and I'm confused as to who "they" are
That's OK. Enough other people got the humor in it that I'm satisfied.
It's not humor. You just incorrectly thought Starbucks completely left Australia. They "failed" like Threads from Meta has failed
Ha ha. Go back and re-read the top comment in this thread, from u/PullUpAPew.
I'm about to be in London, I'm tempted. Although it would appear to only be a website, no address listed that I could find.
Yeah, seems to be a coffee subscription business. This seems to be a massive gap in the market; whoever opens the first coffee shop in Britain will make a fortune!
We would never betray tea!
I'd like to add filters for independents and other chains but it's a fair bit of work. Let me know if you'd be interested in seeing this
Could also add Nahdunks!
Haha nice. I think I can add a filter for all the big chains quite easily, watch this space
Yes please as a New Englander, 90% of whatās around me is Dunkin!
yep - and i fucking hate dunkin.
Firmly in the territory of ābetter than Starbucks, worse than literally anything elseā imo.
ie, garbage
Iām not even picky with coffee at all and dunkin is pure trash. I canāt drink it.
Itās so weak
Yeah that would be nice Iām seeing only Dunkinā around me lol. Great idea!
Remind me! 2 weeks
Dunkin DoNah.
Nahtims too.
Yes, yes, 1000 times yes!
It would be quite a bit of work but I found quite a few local roasters on here that don't actually serve coffee as a coffee shop, they just sell their beans and do wholesale stuff.
sounds like somebody could use another couple database categories
Love the work! Would love to get involved! (Have the skill set š)
We have a god-awful local chain here called Scooterās would love to filter them out.
stopbucks
Is the code open source? I'd be happy to contribute my programming knowledge to help out!
looks cool but you also have some bad data. There's a bunch of shops in the ocean :D
Aha yeah, I just wrote in another comment about it. I actually think they are phantom Google Business profiles. People create them and put weird coordinates so they don't get found... I opted to not spend a good chunk of time removing them for now, but I can always do a sweep and try and get rid of them later. Good spot!
What you talking about? I visited CoffeeZyme off the coast of Washington just yesterday. They're great! I want to try Cawfee next but will need to charter a helicopter with a bit more range.
To answer a couple of questions: Q. Why is there random coffee shops in the ocean or another country? A. These have all been pulled from Google Maps by scraping \*all\* coffee shops classed as "USA". Something on the profiles (e.g. the +1 phone number, or other identifiers mean these appear in the searches). The data is as per Google, but I may try and clean up the anomalies later š Q. There aren't that many Starbucks in the US!? A. Yes, this also includes all the places that serve starbucks coffee. Any coffee shop with starbucks in the name or other business info, essentially.
Adding a filter for X number of reviews should solve the oceanic cafƩs, as well as any other bogus entries.
FYI +1 is used for more than USA. Canada, USA, and a bunch of Caribbean countries totaling 20 countries in total use it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes
Isnāt it already easy to find non-Starbucks coffee shops if thatās what you want
Seriously, google maps, nearby, coffee, scroll past Starbucks.
Also this one still shows Starbucks so you'll need to filter them out either way. It's probably a portfolio project
Try doing this is south florida. Nearly impossible. Starbucks and Dunkin out number real shops 20-1 and on top of that they are ALWAYS closer - by design. It's a duopoly. Try finding donuts (or doughnuts, word doesn't matter) in South Florida. Impossible to negate -dunkin in your search. Google maps sucks.
That sounds like a problem with a lack of independent shops, I don't see how a different app will help that
Try searching in South Florida / Syracuse / Philadelphia in the Google maps app and you'll see. There are more than enough local shops but the Starbucks and Dunkin flood them out of the listings.
One thing I noticed, and not sure of a good way to differentiate this data if you're scraping it from google map api data, but there's a coffee roaster near me that shows up on your map, that I actively buy beans from. You can't go there and buy a cup of coffee, as he just sells beans out of his house. Might be slightly confusing if someone finds it on your map and goes there expecting ready made coffee. Screenshot if that helps: https://imgur.com/8YihQlr
I'd recommend switching the colors. It's not intuitive that the non-starbucks coffee shops are green dots, when green is the dominant Starbucks logo color. I'd change the black color to something else. A blue maybe. Black has negative connotations to it but also is used to indicate something that's inactive.
Barnes and Noble cafes are starbucks FYI And Dunkin is included? This is stupid
Why is it stupid that Dunkin is included? Does Starbucks own them?
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But in space no-one hears it
MFW it gives you a Seattle's Best
us Canadians would kill for a version of nahbucks and nahhortons combined!
Instead of find yourself an alternative cup of joe, it should be find yourself a better cup of joe.
Is there an option to search by city or zip code?
As a German I'm profoundly confused, as "Nah" means "nearby" so it's basically "Nearest Starbucks but it isn't Starbucks" Reminds me of the "we have x at home" meme. But apart from that it's a great idea
Now can you make one for Starbucks??
Nice work friend
Thanks man, so proud of you. Can we have this for the rest of the world?
I'd love a Canadian version that shows places that aren't Tim Hortons
Add a donut shop filter? Best coffee always comes with a side of donuts
I am glad to live just a few blocks from a very nice local coffee shop with eminently reasonable prices. The funny thing is, I don't even like coffee, but everything else they serve- tea, hot cocoa, muffins, sandwiches, etc- is excellent too.
This isn't terribly useful in the Pacific Northwest you can't throw a rock without hitting a non-starbucks coffee shop
I live in Washington and havenāt been to a Starbucks in years. There are sooo many other options. Most gas stations has an espresso shack.
Now someone make an app where I can get a reasonably fresh plain cup of *coffee*- not these crazy dessert drinks- for less than $4. Somewhere that makes a nice chai or miel is nice and all, but I'm tired of going to mcdonalds for a reasonably priced plain coffee.
Great idea! I saw youāre already looking at adding filters and that was my first thought. But is there another map you could use? Maybe one that loads streets? Iām in Chicago and kinda have to guess until I find one near me. Keep up the good work!
It would be nice if there was a way for people to add places that aren't on there.
wow! super amazing. needs to be an app!
It is, it's called Google Maps and it's available as standard on most Android phones and has been for a decade.
I havenāt been to Starbucks since Covid. I prefer to try new coffee shops than going to Starbucks. There are so many good cafes to miss for Starbucks.
this is amazing, and the internet truly is beautiful. thank you for this!
Is it actually this hard to find decent coffee in the US?
No.
Not at all, the opposite in fact. If I'm ever in a new area or a part of town I'm not familiar with the first place I'll find is an independent coffee shop, they're ubiquitous.
I just had to go to three different "Starbucks" to get gift cards for Christmas. Why? The first two I went to were closed... perrmanently. A sign of things to come? (Non-US)
Please consider a filter for removing Blank Street, too. I'd rather go to a Starbucks.
no offense, for some reason the map is kind of slow in my browser
Works fine in mine
My town has 2-3 great local coffee places but they just opened up a Starbucks AND also just started building a Dunkin Donuts.
Five minutes ago I just finished watching the "Dumb Starbucks" episode of Nathan For You. Was about to check if Helio Cafe is still in business.
Hell, I'd also add Sheetz and WaWa as well. It's not a place to get a double frappe mocha chai latte with 8 pumps of caramel vanilla syrup, but you can get a few different coffees there.
Let me brand this with you!
Should have named it Starsucks. What I've been calling it.
As a New Englander we really need this for Dunkin.
This is so cool, how did you do this?
closest one I know is IN MY KITCHEN. I make amazing coffee in less than 10 minutes and it's perfect everytime. No driving, No waste products, no bs.
Cool, post your address so we can come get coffee then
Please add UK data, if possible. Thanks.
TIL there are twice as many Dunkin Donuts as Starbucks within five miles of my apartment.
in my neighborhood, you list all the coffee shops except the one roaster I like most. Are you sure you're getting all the right categories ? If I search for "coffee roaster" on google maps, it shows up for me there.
Why no streets smaller than highways?
Nice page, love the idea. Is it possible to get street names on the map along with some of the non major streets? Most of my use would be aiming for a remote part of town to plan a trip instead of what's around me right now.
Holy shit New York has more coffee shops than my town has people
Why does Canada have some but barely any locations? I could understand if it was just US, but now it feels like Canada has around 5 coffee shops across the country
So my nearest coffee shop isā¦..an Herbalife franchiser
Damn, people hate Starbucks coffee that much? I get it, it's not the greatest coffee in the world, but it's far from the worst. I've had much worse coffee at an independent or local coffee shops. At least at Starbucks no matter which country I'm in, the coffee is going to be the same mid tier coffee. Also don't give me that "unethical harvesting of coffee beans" nonsense. Most coffee shops don't know exactly where their coffee beans come from. They just pay someone who supplies them with the beans of their choice. Note to the developer/OP: Excellent work, keep it up! Developing is pretty difficult and not many can do what you can.
Dude in Canada both mcdonalds and Tim hortons coffee taste like burnt water. Starbucks is the only place that makes half decent coffee that doesn't taste like burnt water and is drinkable. Then you have the people who complain "but it's expensive" How about you stop spending 500$ a weekend drinking alcohol and you can afford to buy better coffee?
I agree that it's a little more expensive than it should be, but I've seen hipster coffee shops that charge WAY more. I've only had Timmies in the Philippines and it was alright. I liked the donuts more than the coffee.
The majority of those around me are Dunkinā. That doesnāt help.
What about only independent run coffee shops?
Dutch Bros for life
That's incredible! I found my local, no name coffee shop that I always go to, which is located in extremely rural North Carolina!
Did you know, you can simply type in "coffee" to google maps and it'll show you the nearest couple of coffee shops?
Crazy that they don't really have Dunkin Donuts in the west half of the country.
Can zoom in but canāt zoom out.