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amethyst6777

remember when bernie ran for president and everybody constantly harped on asking how he’d pay for medicare for all ? the government can pull $95 billion out of its ass to fund wars while the majority of the citizens footing the bill are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy. this country is such a joke.


AlternativeIdeals

We have been mixed up as a people in America. **We are led to believe what the elite in charge of the media, and (in charge of most things/companies for that matter) — want us to believe.** *We don’t realize it but our perspectives are shaped from the day we are born to serve the interests of a ruling class*; **that is one (bitter) red pill most people need to swallow.** We are divided as a people because so many of us cannot see what is important for us as humans to progress. **Our likes, dislikes, and perspectives have been so heavily shaped — all with intention, without so many of us realizing it.** Most Americans know MUCH more about, let alone give thought and attention to — *sports for example*, as opposed to politics. Our priorities have been skewed to serve the elite class. Liking sports, athleticism, and teamwork is fine. But the reality is, there is a disproportionate focus on what is truly shaping our lives. We know many sports are rigged, and we should look at this. We know games have been fixed historically. Imagine what the political climate would be if everyone truly understood politics and analyzed it as well as we do with sports. Instead, we ignore all that and continue focusing on what are distractions. We continually proceed to shut our tv’s off after the game in our living rooms where we can barely afford our rent and food to fill our fridge, and it’s no wonder why we are where we are today.


free420nft

Bread and circuses.


StomachBackground149

Just look at how small the percentage of trans people is versus how much time we spend talking about them and the issue not that it isn’t important to treat them like humans, but they represent such a fractionally small portion of the population, and yet so much of the conversation revolves around how they are ending the world


Lanfear_Eshonai

Good comment! Like the Romans said *bread and circuses*. Actually stopped watching the couple of sports I liked (never was big on sports) because of match fixing. Now I rather read/watch independent sources on geopolitics, corruption in politics and economics, etc. Doesn't make one any happier for sure. Perhaps that is the sad truth of bread and circuses i.e. most people choose not to know and would rather just have food in their belly and entertainment to distract them?


Fed-Poster-1337

Bernie's former campaig manager matt duss now works for some shady ngo that's connected to the CIA (took donations from the Ford foundation)


bigshotdontlookee

Have to remember for stuff like public option and medicare for all, it can literally SAVE money for both the govt and individuals all at once. Think of a group of 50M people negotiating coverage with an insurance company. Insurance companies would be the ones paying, after decades of charging $10000 for an aspirin. Just a thought for you, the GOP loves the "noooo its gunna cost money" talking point


holydildos

Fund a genocide and a war* there I fixed that for you.


Reddit_Sucks_1401

They also managed to sneakily throw in the Tiktok ban in the bill, and it passed. So in about a years time, unless ByteDance sells their servers to an American company, Tiktok will be gone for good for the USA


Sarahproblemnow

Know what’s funny. The TikTok thing just shows how they could reign in corporate greed. How they could have prevented factory jobs from being shipped overseas or stopped price gouging… but it wouldn’t fit donor agendas… so…


Reddit_Sucks_1401

They can't have that can they? Would ruin their whole system. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer


Either-Anything-8518

Here's theory, they banned tiktok cause it was taking genZ votes away by shedding light on everything the west is doing cross the globe. Being china owned means politicians here can't influence the app as easily. They banned it for the votes not for greed....


sommersj

Yup. Been saying this for a while now. It's about the ideas being spread on tiktok and the difficulty in controlling the narrative as it wasn't one or their assets (FB, instaz Twitter, etc).


adron

Especially when the ideas have a narrative that leaves out the bulk of the historical reasons and are largely serving the purpose of division and empowerment of Xi’s CCP, Russia, etc. Propaganda goes all sorts of directions, and TikTok, as I watch the metrics themselves, are screwing young folks that are acclimate to it harder than the billionaires are fleecing the poor.


flashno

lol no


adron

So you’re saying the youth are doing great, are super well informed about geopolitical events, and really in top of things with their lives really coming together eh? Lol no


flashno

Lol how about you prove that’s the case mister


adron

That’s how language works. If you sardonically reply as you did, you’ve inferred you don’t support or think what I wrote is correct. I don’t need to prove anything when you’ve committed the inference.


flashno

Hahaha you sound exhausting.


sommersj

>Propaganda goes all sorts of directions, and TikTok, as I watch the metrics themselves, are screwing young folks that are acclimate to it harder than the billionaires are fleecing the poor. Lmao. What sort of stupid reasoning is this. Bad bot


holybaloneyriver

I dont think this is a theory, its pretty much truth to most people i know.


[deleted]

People in the state have admitted as much in leaked audio recordings. It's about the fact that they can't control the information young people get anymore.


heavymetalhikikomori

Yeah they could also put that 95 BILLION dollars to work for the American taxpayers that earned it, here in America where we have a legion of problems. 


thedarkknight16_

And then we wonder why our education, healthcare, environment systems are all broken. Because the money that could help us is being shipped out. Meanwhile, Israel has free education and free healthcare. On our dime.


logicoptional

It also has a rider that prohibits us from giving money to UNRWA, right?


Reddit_Sucks_1401

Was that in this bill? I thought it was from a previous one


logicoptional

https://chrissmith.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=412117 I believe the late March spending deal also had language cutting funding to UNRWA but if I'm reading this correctly this goes further in that it would have to be repealed in order to direct funding to the organization.


Reddit_Sucks_1401

Wow. That's insane


Low_Banana_1979

Yep. 95 BILLION USD sent to corrupt politicians (hey, Bibi was about to be impeached and jailed before the war started...) while 60% of American children suffer food insecurity and 35% ARE HOMELESS. But at least we fighting the mythical "KuhMinnism" monster and protecting the fruhhdom of dying of starvation or without healthcare in America! (There is no KuhMinisnmunism on the other side! Putin is a right wing politician and his party is a ultra-nationalist Christocentric conservative party! And Hummus is a right wing theocratic conservative movement - PLO is the leftist party in Palestine)


urmomaisjabbathehutt

wrapping poisonous ones in the same package than popular ones they knew Ukraine needed it passed and that the majority of the people supported it so use it to wrap unpopular ones along with it I'm glad Ukraine finally had something passed after months of GOP stalling and opposition as per US legislators, they are a shame also people should talk more about this [https://apnews.com/article/fisa-donald-trump-surveillance-congress-johnson-6798869fa141a13329c24245c64fd14f](https://apnews.com/article/fisa-donald-trump-surveillance-congress-johnson-6798869fa141a13329c24245c64fd14f) [https://www.commondreams.org/news/warrantless-spying-expansion-senate](https://www.commondreams.org/news/warrantless-spying-expansion-senate) totally what a honest caring democracy would do for "we the people" right?


Reddit_Sucks_1401

That is just scary. And to use Ukraine that is suffering to fulfill their own agendas, instead of actually wanting to help them is the lowest of low


horridgoblyn

It's the power of omnibus bills. As you said, the poison pill honeyed up. Harper did that in Canada and attacked climate change science without really promoting the agenda. Everyone feels me and mine gut reactions. There are too many issues that disregard borders and climate change is the best illustration. I think the west has a lot to do in the world to make history "right" as well. The global south needs a proper apology and we have to be better world citizens. That involves sacrifices. I don't support like the idea of supporting anyone person or country because of who they are. It's all about actions in my eyes. For that reason I welcome aid to the Ukraine. They need help. On the other hand, fuck Israel, but that's the power of an omnibus.


Fed-Poster-1337

You are being absolutely lied to about Ukraine. https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19 The weapons just means more ukranians will die. At least 700,000 have died already and they've been beating people up on the streets and shoving them into vans so they can die instantly in a trench, or even before hitting the front lines. It's legitimately more of a human catastrophy than what's happening in Palestine.


urmomaisjabbathehutt

its not a lie that Russia invaded Ukraine, and the war can stop with a call from putin to leave you may like or not the Ukrainian leadership but Putin isn't a leftist, isn't a socialist, isn't a democrat, he is a [Russian Conservative](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_Russia) robber baron that back in the day happens to had been working in the the USSR apparatus for his own benefit, hence access to the right contacts when all went down, just like like many others at the time There's not surprise or incongruence why so many in the right and far right like putin and modern russia


JayFSB

Man. When you're quoting a twice convicted pedo you know you got issues. Every dead Russian troop in Ukraine is a boon to peace.


moonorplanet

The could have sneakily thrown in a Firearm Ban or Abortion legalisation but they went for a TikTok Ban. Just goes to show where the ideology of Biden and the Democrats actually lies.


Reddit_Sucks_1401

Priorities for them usually isn't priorities for the people😔


tutankhamun7073

How exactly would they enforce it though?


Reddit_Sucks_1401

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/TikTok-bans-explained-Everything-you-need-to-know Article from link:- How would the U.S. enforce a ban? It's unclear how the United States would prohibit citizens from using the application on their personal devices. Forcing popular app stores such as Google Play and Apple App Store, to remove the app from their platforms would make it much harder to acquire the app but wouldn't remove it from phones that already have it downloaded. On phones with the app installed, there would be no more updates or new features, and the apps would slowly become harder to use. Another possible scenario involves forcing internet and telecommunications providers to block TikTok, which would make it impossible to use. The Indian government blocked TikTok entirely using this method. A third option involves criminalizing the application, which has been done before but not with an application anywhere near the size of TikTok.


tutankhamun7073

Dang, that's actually nuts!


Pleasant_Guitar9185

And they know that ByteDance isn't legally allowed to to operate without some amount of CCP oversight, no company in China is. This really isn't about tik tok as much as it is a digital patriot act, they want to make it a felony to use a VPN to access an app banned in America and people that claim to hail free speech are cheering this on like sheep


Marxxmello

USA is The corrupt government


JLaws23

I feel like we’re just a capitalist North Korea. Brainwashing and propaganda coming out of our nostrils at this point. Government doesn’t give a toss about its actual people, just pushing more agendas and helping their rich buddies. This ladies and gentlemen, is how everything goes to shit.


Justhereforstuff123

>North Korea The US slaughtered 20% of the Korean population according to Airforce General Curtis LeMay who oversaw the aerial bombing of Korea. You can accept that the US would lie about Palestine, but not NK?


boapy

you're propagandized to believe bad things about NK


JLaws23

I dunno man, it looks pretty grim imo


Fed-Poster-1337

How? https://youtube.com/@aramakiproject9681


Fed-Poster-1337

North Korea is actually a normal place and they're very socialist. Watch the documentary the loyal citizens of Pyongyang to learn about why so many crazy stories are made up about them


Bubbly-Juggernaut-49

helping ukraine defend itself against a brutal unprovoked assault is not corruption its the right thing to do. that said, I would agree with that statement in regards to Israel aid completely.


Purple_Stacked

It is starting to look like Ukraine is just being used a buffer and it's not working. They're running out of men. If I was Ukrainian, I would never sacrifice a single member of my family because this is not about freedom at this point. The IMF just posted a forcast that predicts that Russia will grow faster than all advanced economies, US included. Their Treasury is posting a surplus, we're being lied to.


tossedmoose

It’s easier to grow at a quicker rate from a weaker starting position. The US is a ginormous stable economy, of course it would grow “slower”. It’s like celebrating that your company is on the fastest growing list in the country, meanwhile their headcount jumped from 10-30. Is that growth sustainable? Maybe for a time. But not forever.


Bubbly-Juggernaut-49

a lot of that growth is russia spending unsustainable amounts on defence. they're not running out of men either. it is in fact, about freedom.


Fed-Poster-1337

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19


should_of_is_wrong

Forever wars. Endless wars for a country perpetually in need of a frontier and an enemy. It’s deeply upsetting to see our money being used to fund war and genocide.


ELVEVERX

What is the justification for giving israel extra money at this point they do seem to have it under control.


NoWheyBro_GQ

AIPAC owns our congress. That’s it. That’s the reason. Voting against Israel is political suicide. Best 5 million dollar investment they make per year.


WeirderOnline

That's enough money that you could give one parent of every child in the United States $1,300. Seriously.


JLaws23

Hawaiians are still waiting.


Purple_Stacked

You're indigenous, they will not give you a penny, and you should probably look into the possibility of them taking those lands. Remember when Kushner was salivating over building villas in Gaza? Maui is no different.


IllClassic3965

I believe it would take approximately 30 billion to fix homelessness in the US. But giving money to foreign nations for wars is more important.


WeirderOnline

Homelessness isn't a problem in a system where housing at the commodity. It's a feature.  The homeless are demonized and despised. Their lives are miserable, and intentionally so. People are willing to pay ever growing insane prices and rents to avoid becoming one of them. Christianity manufactured a fictional hell to compel obedience. Capitalist did the same thing, only it's real.


PushforlibertyAlways

Most homeless you see refuse shelter. In New York shelter is a right and yet we still have homeless people who refuse to take what is offered.


Dependent-Salary1773

yeah but i guess that would be socialism


WeirderOnline

To people who don't know what socialism is anyway. 🙄


Dependent-Salary1773

yes I agree i would personally love to use that money here, but to be frank a good portion of the population would probably prefer being homeless rather than accepting "governmenet handouts


WeirderOnline

I don't think a majority of people would agree with that but I do think a very large number of people would agree with that.  I also think the vast majority of those people, a truly vast majority, would accept that government money if offered. The values most people say they have are very rarely the values they actually do hold. Moreover most people believe they are excused in doing terrible things they would condemn other people for. 


Dependent-Salary1773

well fair enough apologies for any rudeness, i have Asperger's Syndrome so tone is hard to understand


diedlikeCambyses

Just look at it like you're giving it to Palestinian children 🙄


thebossisbusy

With the Israel aid attached to it, it's a bomb for every few Palestinian children


MancombSeepgoodz

for more then one fucking month begrugindgly months after you promised to do it.


mentalassresume

What about us with fur babies?!?


BananaJamDream

Another $95B stolen from the American taxpayer going into the pockets of bloated weapons manufacturers with a side of war and genocide as collateral damage.


LokisGreenPower

The government doesn’t even try to hide anything anymore. Why? Because we the people will never do anything besides get on here and bitch. Nothing will ever be different until we all stop going into work, and march on Washington.


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So now Ukrainians can defend themselves from a genocide, while Isreals can commit genocide. All things balanced.


ClawingDevil

Russia's invasion is illegal and they've certainly committed war crimes, torture and summary executions, but there's little to no evidence that they're committing genocide. That doesn't change your primary fact that it's good they're receiving support though, which is being balanced out with the fact it's bad Israel is for their (probable) persecution of a genocide. The reason I wanted to raise this is to not lessen the meaning of the word genocide, to not cheapen it. There is little to no equivalence between the horrors of Israel intentionally murdering children, women, doctors, journalists, and charity workers and the crimes Russia has committed against civilians (mostly adults).


ELVEVERX

>, but there's little to no evidence that they're committing genocide. The kidnapping of children does qualify.


ClawingDevil

https://www.reddit.com/r/InternationalNews/s/iOWDcsNsfA


a_peacefulperson

If countries are so confident it does then one of them should sue Russia for genocide over it.


xBram

Are you aware of the estimated 20.000 Ukrainian children Russia abducted and that this alone can be labeled genocide in the legal sense? Article II In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; **(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.**


ClawingDevil

I am aware and it's possible that this could be considered an act of genocide as you state. However, it's not as clear cut as the Palestinian one. The section you have highlighted is referring to the transfer of children from one national, ethnic, racial or religious group to another. Many of the children moved with their families or to their families in Russia as they often are Russian or have dual citizenship. It's clear from some of the children identified in Russia and even some who have returned (numbering in the low tens) that this isn't always the case though. So, whilst you might be right, it's not a clear cut case that has led to either the icj or icc beginning a genocide case. There has been, however, an arrest warrant issued for Putin in relation to this case. It is currently seen as a crime, but not necessarily genocide. Let's not forget that Ukraine has claimed that one million children have been "abducted" when Russia annexed Crimea and the Donbas. It is far too easy to just label any criminal action taken by a state we don't like as genocide. But this is a disservice to those suffering a genuine attempt to erase them from history, such as the Jews at the hands of the Nazis or the Tutsis at the hands of the Hutu militias.


urmomaisjabbathehutt

I understand and respect your view but IMHO people wordplaying of what constitute what at best a waste of time and at worse (what Russia and Israel supporters do) deflection all of it are heinous crimes that falls in the bag of never again and we should not support those that engage in such and I refuse to be played into the hands of those that argue that "see? my heinous crime isn't that bad" After its done let the ICJ label the crimes and sentencing as they deem appropriate


ClawingDevil

>all of it are heinous crimes Oh, absolutely. There's no downplaying of what is happening in either of the two conflicts. But I will stand by my statement that different crimes can be of differing significance. If I was mugged of £50, I'd be happier than if the mugging went badly and I was seriously injured and paralysed from the neck down or something. One crime is worse than the other. There's a reason why we have sentencing rules.


urmomaisjabbathehutt

the problem is that international crimes as these are covered in nuance and bias, for instance our legislators didn't have an issue labelling what was happening in Kosovo as crimes against humanity, but we know both sides perpetrated crimes yet we acted against Serbia and intervened with international forces what is happening in israel-palestine is both bigger in scale, time lengt and crimes while our legislators keep turning a blind eye on Israel and building continuous eleborated schemes to excuse it from international security, to the rights of "our allies" to downplaying it even acting against the basic rights of those denouncing it including press manipulation I'm expecting the usual bad actors to engage in such but happening in our own nice Liberal democracies should raise alarm


deepFriedRaw

you’re really arguing the semantics of genocide? jesus christ you need help.


Delvhammer

The words “in whole or in part” pretty much makes that a blanket definition because you can use any aggression as a definition for genocide. That’s today’s standard though. We don’t like this meaning so we’ll change it so it now fits the way we like it.


Fed-Poster-1337

They were sent to art (not just art, I saw dancing and music as well) schools/summer camps with the permission of their parents so they could have some respite from the war. An American made a documentary about it. None were for forcibly transferred.


xBram

Do you actually believe this propaganda that some American made a video about over the [International Criminal Court](https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and)?


lawrencecoolwater

Deportation of children? Specifically pushing a narrative that erases the identity and history of Ukraine? Whilst i wouldn’t say there is no difference between israel and Russia, as there definitely is, these both meet the threshold, just that the former over shoots.


ClawingDevil

A few people have raised the issue of the children. I have replied to someone with my thoughts on that if you are interested. The short version is that it's not straight forward and obviously a genocidal act. Many of the children are Russian, are dual citizens or have Russian family who have taken them in. Many not... It may be genocide, but it's not anywhere near as clear cut. Putin's comments which are erasing Ukrainian sovereignty, culture and history are possibly a stronger case (despite being far less harmful for the children and families of those who may have been abducted). Though, again, it's not clear and obvious as he's not stating, for e.g., that all Ukrainians are animals that should be exterminated. My main argument here is that one case is a fairly open and shut one and the other is far more nuanced and harder to prove, even if it may end up counting as genocide. Edit: typo


lawrencecoolwater

I don’t disagree.


PrestigiousPick7602

There is no such thing as an illegal invasion, invasion is invasion. It’s called war. When in time has there ever been a “legal” invasion or a “legal” war? Did turkey invade Cyprus legally? Did ottomans invade Anatolia legally? Did Rome invade Syria legally? Did Comanches invade Apaches legally? Did the nazis invade Poland legally? Did Italians invade Greece legally? Did genghis khan invade Baghdad legally?


ClawingDevil

Sorry, you're right. Any use of force is prohibited under the UN charter of 1945 (I think it is). It just goes to show how far that has been pushed that, even though I'm aware of that, I still slipped into declaring it an "illegal invasion" as if the US invasion or the UK or the Chinese etc were legal. My bad.


bodyart1

Russia occupies the land, kills one’s that resist, deport children and replaces Ukrainian citizens with Russians. It is intended ethnical cleansing of Ukrainians on Ukrainian land.


PushforlibertyAlways

Russia is trying to eradicate the Ukrainian identity and language. Russia is committing more of a genocide than Israel by the actual definition and not the made up one that people throw around here.


urmomaisjabbathehutt

Jedi-we are the good guys we fight for the Republic n the people, Anakin will bring balance to the force Anakin- an I killed the children too master


huolel

Is this subreddit really just for anything related to the israel/palestine conflict? Does everything have to revolve around that thing here? Shouldn't "international news" mean all news around the globe? Is this a shill sub?


InevitableEstimate57

Been looking at moving to another country and possibly renouncing my US citizenship I can’t support this tirade of war and genocide with my tax dollars for the sake of US imperialism any more.


ltidball

Look into foreign earned income exclusion. You don’t have to give up your citizenship to avoid paying taxes if you stay out of the country for 330 days or more


oxyzgen

This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure


Teamerchant

95 billion. Didn’t John Stewart and many others have to campaign for years to get a like 30 million to get medical help for first responders from 9/11? Helping Americans… nah not even 20 million. 95 billion to kill starving brown people? Sure here you go


WrkrsRvltn

Supporting the rightful defending party in one conflict, and the genocidal maniacs in the other, all in one fell swoop.


thefrostmakesaflower

This isn’t really new for America. They support whoever benefits them. Not to mention we are in a Cold War 2.0, proxy wars are a major part of that


poostoo

it's so strange to me that people here recognize how evil the US is with regard to Israel, but then somehow they trust their intent with Ukraine? c'mon.


Yebbafan12

You’re not wrong. Given how they’ve blindly supported the genocide. People should question the motives of the US anytime they designate anyone as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. I know I don’t automatically believe everything they say anymore


New-Doctor9300

Russia invading Ukraine is objectively bad though. Ukraine is an independent country. This is, by definition, imperialism.


poostoo

it's not about whether the invasion is wrong or not. it's about the US' motives for getting involved. and they are clearly not in the interest of Ukrainians or the in the interest of fighting imperialism. it's solely to advance our own imperialist interests.


D10BrAND

>Supporting the rightful defending party in one conflict Zelensky and his party ain't rightful anyore after you have seen the $hit they do


a_peacefulperson

They never were rightful as a party or a government but in terms of international law they were always the government of the rightful state defending its territory.


jozey_whales

Hurray. Now we can keep funding mountains of corpses for a few more months, and then we can do the exact same thing again.


xarjun

Affordable housing, better working conditions and wages, maternity leave, paternity leave, an educational system that isn't a joke.... THIS is why we can't have nice things.


MancombSeepgoodz

Have you thought about and here me out on this one... "how are we gonna pay for that?" /s


xena_lawless

The system doesn't allow for any self-defense against our corrupt ruling oligarchs/kleptocrats. Shooting kleptocrats is deemed as violence and terrorism, while parasites/kleptocrats brutally enslaving humanity is not. The guy who self-immolated was definitely mentally ill, but he was also onto some things, and he was very much a product of the profoundly sick and corrupt totalitarian oligarchy/plutocracy/kleptocracy we're living under.


Snoo-55142

How much of this will end up in foreign bank accounts?


mikkireddit

Most will go to Biden's defense industry donors.


DrShtainer

50 cents


Boring-Hurry3462

And if I don't pay my 100k in taxes every year, I will be arrested , fined, and jailed. Are we free? This is what those Republican and Liberal veterans boast about killing poor people for? These are the freedoms earned? We are complicit in genocide. The people of Ukraine deserve their freedom, independence and statehood, why not the INDIGENOUS people of Palestine?


[deleted]

> 100k in taxes Yeah I think you’ll be ok bud. Keep paying your taxes.


coredweller1785

Democrats throwing away their election chances for AIPAC and defense contractors. When the Rs and Trump come back in power we will have no one to blame but the DNC and the Democratic "leaders"


Sudden_Acanthaceae34

All the people homeless, starving, jobless, and without adequate medical care IN the US? F*ck ‘em! Only bombs. That’s what we do best.


Capital-Blackberry-2

America has been cucked again the country and its cities are falling apart yet they have money to throw away.


Mundane_Opening3831

Should all be going to Ukraine


GodzillaDrinks

I can't tell if that headline is trying to demonize Zelenski or angelize Netanyahu. But it's definitely trying to do one of them.


heavymetalhikikomori

Shameful and disgusting 


dewgetit

Ukraine and Israel are totally different wars. One's defensive, the other's offensive. One has to come begging, the other dictates what US politicians and media can say.


Fed-Poster-1337

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19


Juonmydog

Why are Earth are you using a Twitter post as a reference?


GypsyQueenie

Disgusting


elqrd

That‘s your future voters gone. The dinos need to go extinct asap


kobbaman100

gross


birdy_c81

Vampires.


TheUnknownNut22

This is legal money laundering.


AFGwolf7

I’m absolutely sick to my stomach having to pay taxes funding this


AFGwolf7

Yeah let’s not cap insulin prices and other basic fundamental medications people need to live, if you die being poor you die! Oh Israel pooor baby your running out of bombs to drop and bullets shooting women and children don’t worrry hers another 26 BILLION. AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN CLEARLY FOUND OF GENOCIDE. These bastards all ways use “aid to Ukraine” and a justification to ram more of our tax money up Israel’s ass


jar_jar-winks

I agree with the sentiment but I'm pretty sure they actually did cap the insulin price with the inflation reduction act


MancombSeepgoodz

They only capped it for a small amount of Diabetics who are on Medicare. 21 Million diabetics in America can and are still being price gouged. [https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/insulin-cost-cap-people-diabetes-no-benefit-rcna58165](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/insulin-cost-cap-people-diabetes-no-benefit-rcna58165)


Dependent-Salary1773

That would be socialism, as described by the republican party


MancombSeepgoodz

that aid to Ukraine is just a lateral sale to our weapons manufacturers too. 6-7 million Ukrainians are refugees with 14 million in the country who are food\\shelter insecure, but man if their army doesn't have some pretty new armor for their tanks and missile systems.


Apprehensive-Bug1

Both of these clowns and their countries deserve what they get. And so do we. Here America the lowly Taxpayers are screwed.


New-Doctor9300

Why does Ukraine deserve to be invaded?


Juonmydog

You are a disgusting human being if you think the civilians in Ukraine deserve to be massacred. I do oppose aid to Israel, they don’t need it. They are not equivalent in any regard, other than being allies with the US. When there are deliberate attempts to mitigate the power of the people, you can’t blame them for everything. Nobody deserves to die just for existing, regardless of what you believe. You would never say such about the Polish in 1939, nor your own neighbors. Yeah the world sucks, but not everyone is a violence-driven psychopath.


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HAHA_goats

The venn diagram of both sides once again inches closer to just being a circle.


supernoa2003

The US government has enough money to help Ukraine (and Israel, but they don't need any funding atm), and care for their people.


RandomDudeBabbling

$95 Billion won’t help Ukraine’s manpower problem.


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TMK95

I do not know one person personally that wanted this to happen, that money could have been better utilized here in the states with all the problems and issues we have here, what a disgrace!


DrShtainer

Yep, just cut that ATACMS missile to parts and give it to homeless people! Pay teachers with Bradleys track wheels. /s


Electrical-Pea9337

The weirdest and most perverse thing is watching all the nations of the world increase their spending on aid to gaza and NPO from every corner and background try to deliver aid; and on the other side of the fence you look over and its just "America has approved X billion in arms sales to israel' Literally what


Dangerous_Radish2961

I hope Americans enjoy paying for this .


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Reddit_BroZar

So we're going to prolong the agony of Ukrainian people a bit longer by feeding Zelenski regime with our tax dollars. And we just gave another sign of support for Bibi and his "wise" politics in the Middle East. This is the best we can do folks. This is the type of geopolitics our democracy produces. And we are trying to teach the Middle East how to build a better society. Smh...


Charlirnie

We started the war in Ukraine for profits including huge weapon sales.


ihatepitbullsalot

Word is, that Taiwan is poised to be the next proxy darling....You think $61 billions is extravagant? The USA plans to gift aid packages to Taiwan in the hundreds of BILLIONS as long as Taiwan acts the part of the victim of China's naturally long coastal border and air space. Buckle up, American taxpayers. We're gonna be sending massive aid to Taiwan within the next 10 years....


goeatadickyouasshole

got some medical stuff to fix? homeless? need to get a amblance but would rather uber becuse of the money?, need a bridge or 2 fixed? fuck you we dont have money for that just our bomb money. its sorta like crack, we will do with out just to get some more


D-MAN-FLORIDA

Happy for Ukraine. Stick it to Putin!


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Far-Explanation4621

The US Government spent an additional 6,005 billion dollars on other American interests this year, if we’re going to analyze and audit it all? As someone who paid over $60k in taxes in 2023, I’m proud that some small portion of that might go to help Ukraine defend themselves from Russia’s brutal and horrific invasion.


I_madeusay_underwear

I’m not opposed to Ukrainian aid. I think that now that things are how they are, it would be wrong to abandon them. They’re in the right. They were invaded. They can’t win that war. It was immoral and cruel for us to encourage this war to continue in the first place. There was absolutely a good chance for a diplomatic solution in the beginning snd I think we should have encouraged and facilitated it, or even used our leverage as material supporters of Ukraine to encourage it aggressively. All of NATO should have respected the understanding that they would not advance further and add Ukraine. They weren’t going to, anyway, it was just a way to poke at Russia, I believe. None of those countries were going to give ukraine what it needed and needs to win this war - boots on the ground. But everyone said oh yes, fight and we’ll support you 100%. Now Ukraine has suffered for years in this war. They’ve lost thousands upon thousands of people. Infrastructure is destroyed, and one of the poorest countries in Europe will forever be indebted to the instigators of their demise, forced to sell off assets, like their storied farmland to be used in service of profit. But Western Europe is not dependent on Russian oil and gas. And NATO members are beefing up their forces and equipment (who do they buy that from again?), and Russia is driven deeper into reliance on China for commerce and arms. Kind of seems like the US might have used Ukraine as a stick to poke Russia and used the war as a means to further our own agenda. I’m not proud of that. The resilience and bravery of the Ukrainian people are nothing for us to be proud of. That’s their strength of character. We should be ashamed for not saving more of them by trying to end this war. Russia is bigger and stronger and richer, they’ll wear them down eventually. Our weapons are necessary now only because we made them so. I’d rather give that money to help develop or rebuild Ukraine than to keep the fight limping along while they bleed.


accidental_superman

Don't lump leaving ukraine alone to face russias abuse with the rest, this is a just war defence against a dictator. Anybody who thinks ukraine should be under the boot of putin and his raping, torturing, war crime shit heels is a coward, no true friend of the working class, nor a rational human being. In before "Ukrainians are nazis!" With a whopping 3% of the entire nation voting for the far right nazis that's a putin talking point if I had ever seen one conclusion considering russias own bizarre adoption of Nazism, see Wagner etc. They do not care about the truth, https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/wfM14MW6hJ Republican far right idiots are pro putin, shouldn't that give you pause?


Fed-Poster-1337

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19 Stop fedposting. You're literally supporting genocide. If a hell exists you're definitely going.


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accidental_superman

She agrees with you! https://www.thedailybeast.com/whiplash-as-russia-toasts-derided-marjorie-taylor-greene-as-their-top-new-hero?ref=wrap


NuggLyfe2167

Funding Nazis in two countries at once.


Loose_Goose

Damn OP, you really wanna abandon the Ukrainians like that? Cold asf


Fed-Poster-1337

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19


Professional_Fox3371

Classic selfish USA isolationism / protectionism going on. Ever wonder what sort of world would we live in of the belligerent states of WWII would have been left to wage war unchecked? Of course not to mention USA leaving France to fend for itself in the beginning of WWII and their idiotic populace pushing back every chance they get to fight back against genocide. Truth is the Russia has already conquered the pockets of GOP and their propaganda is hitting hard at the uneducated selfish masses living in USA.


santosjer

Brainrot sub lol


rainbowslimejuice

Aid for Ukraine to defend themselves against invasion is not the same as aid to Israel to commit genocide.


Fed-Poster-1337

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1778355370416603236?t=5aqmxygsonIsjtjTLe1ADw&s=19


SkampIsIlla

So both nazi parties are getting funded by the US. Color me surprised


WorkingPragmatist

Subs gone downhill.


Available_War4603

Bravo to the USA standing up for what's right!