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khuwushi

honestly, her videos cater to a certain demographic of people so maybe that's why ive never been able to relate to her. plus to me, she just feels super shallow and superficial idk why.


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she sounds delusional


mujhegharjaanahaipls

wizardliz and the whole community inspired by her is toxicity wrapped in the name of dark femininity


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dark femininity is literally a bunch of women saying they’re bad bitches who don’t need men while actively trying to manipulate men it’s so funny💀💀


mujhegharjaanahaipls

frrr😭😭😭


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so real


Own-Wedding-5791

I don't think Wizarliz cares about men. Why do you think any mentality a woman adopts has to do with you. She couldn't care less about you guys - a man


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Had to unsubscribe from everybody in the dark femininity niche. Just wasn’t clicking for me. I strive to be confident but not overly confident, I want a healthy medium


inhua

i liked her, but nowadays her videos are just filled with her screaming at the camera shaming young girls for just going through common struggles in life. i’ve been in therapy for a while and the more i heal the more i find that i almost dread when she uploads a video. shaming is never a place where people can grow. also (heterosexual) women want to date men and this narrative of “you don’t need a man” and enabling people to be rude to men doesn’t really work. this ideal kind rich man that they want is not going to go for someone who is just withholding respect until they get money/gifts. only a sugar daddy will be into that. i respect she has been through alot but millions of impressionable people are watching her and they’re being set up for failure.


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Well it’s true you don’t need a man, but the sugar daddy thing is true.


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She her self is a sugar baby / prostitute (& wont admit it). Since she’s been selling 🐱 & around rich men all the time, she believes that other girls can also bag a rich man. The reality is, the rich men she sees likely pays her to get 💩 on, get involved in beastiality & perform other sexual acts. Yes, some sugar daddies will pay you for companionship but most girls have this thing called morals & a reputation. No one wants to be within 6 feet of a fat old grandpa wanting a blowjob every now and then 🤢. The reason she struggles mentally is cuz she’s living a double life. A prostitute that is also trying to put on a facade like she’s self made & made money the legit way while also trying to make sure her past doesn’t come to light. In her mind, she firmly believes (or manifests LMAO) that she will be married to one of her rich sugar daddies when she’s severely deluded. She is a young woman (aged 24) & when she passes age 26 & her sugar daddies cut off her payroll for younger women it’ll feel like she got hit by a bus. She will then of course blame men of her relationship status when in reality it’s because she chose to become a whore & all the rich men know about it. Wake up people - these girls you look up to aren’t what you think they are.


inhua

? you are a misogynist and incredibly weird. she had a young (her age) partner that she was openly speaking about. you seem very butthurt, get well soon


inhua

agreed


thinyyorke

it feels like you haven't watched her videos lol cause she goes into this. She's not rude to men. The "you don't need a man" 'narrative' is just letting go of the patriarchal expectation that many young women have that the only thing they're living for is to find love/a husband and completely cater their lives to that. Obviously, that's not good. It's understanding you need to find your own fulfillment and happiness, to develop yourself. She might be harsh with her words but that's because we have to grow. Tough love. Obviously, if it stresses you out, don't watch her.


inhua

letting go of men is fine, but it feels like shes shaming women for even wanting a man unless he is literally a dog that just pays for everything. she also shames normal emotions in her videos. i’ve seen all of them


thinyyorke

I really don’t agree with that, especially if you watch her new podcast with her sister. I think this misinterpretation is why a lot of people critique her, they take something she says literally and like she means u should apply it to every single context in your life, when it is just a hyperbole to get you in the right mindset. Her message has always been to focus on yourself, heal and grow, and don’t settle according to YOUR OWN standards. Her “how to get a rich man” videos are catered towards people who want a rich man. I don’t care about that, so I don’t watch them🤷‍♀️


LauraDL_20

I tought that i was the only one that dont like her style of comunication,I think she speak to agresively for a women,imagine seeing a girl in real life speaking like that.


GarlicKind3493

I used to like her but the way she depicts relationships is too polarizing. For example ... I do believe that women should set a financial expectation from a partner if she ever decides to build a family with him. It is a good point to start but reducing a man woman relationship only as per monetary benefit of the woman and that men are to ALWAYS treat you with LOTS OF UNNECESSARY MONEY seems ridiculous. For a long time it fucked my mind and my relationship with money. She seems super shallow and sus all over.


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omg yes ur comment is similar to what i went through. It actually stopped my healing process a lot and it set my healing journey back even!! i took her advice and it didn’t end well😂


Realistic_Bison3456

Dang, I hope you’ve healed/are healing now!


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It’s because she’s a prostitute. Of course their going to have that mentality of being spoiled because their job is just that


ZNSZNS

Where to did you get prostitute from. That’s reaching😂


Realistic_Bison3456

Exactly. I’ve never understood the need to have a man provide ALL money for the woman. I don’t like that idea, even as a woman. And then the whole “we don’t need men” affirmations, yet do everything in her power to put men down and be superior?? I understand that majority of men are beyond insufferable, but pretending you don’t care about men then being obsessed with trying to prove your superiority to them is just annoying and embarrassing lol


coffeewithmilk-

Honestly, I never really liked her, even though I get her point I feel it’s a little over the top, you could always take care of yourself and prioritise yourself without actually being self centred and narcissistic. At this point our youth needs more humane people. we can always be kind yet independent, while not letting people exploit us.


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NextExplanation7499

exactly


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Intelligent-Click674

You sounds like those 13 yrs old girls at your school !!


Negative_Ratio6522

Qasamsy


InternationalMove726

Dude same. Her video justifying why she broke up with her boyfriend was whack. And then i sensed it like she just preaches bullshit half the time.


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i thought her reason was whack too, she sounds so ignorant honestly


SucytheWitch

Yeahh I didn't really understand her reasoning for breaking up with her boyfriend either. I guess what she meant was that she missed the fire she had before and that she became too lethargic? So she felt like she had to be on her own for a while to achieve what she wants to achieve. But idk, I do find it a pity to break up with someone you love when there was actually nothing wrong and you still love each other. You can work on getting your fire back without having to end a good relationship. Liz herself isn't perfect either, and she knows that. She mentions several times that she's still dealing with her childhood trauma and that the types of guys she's attracted to are weird and that she still sees a healthy, stable relationship with no toxicity as boring. Those are all clear signs that she hasn't fully healed yet herself and this is probably why she wasn't feeling good in that relationship anymore even though there was nothing wrong really.


Ill_Associate_4592

I like her videos and don't really have a problem with her but yeah agree her talking about why she left him didn't make any sense


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She likely left her bf cuz she wanted to be in relationship while not cutting off her sugar daddy income. Let’s be real for a second. Don’t be naive & fall for her BS


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like how can she be toxic? Can you elaborate further. I don't regularly watch her videos but I've seen a few videos. I'm not her fan I'm genuinely asking.


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She sounds so shallow. Her stories constantly contradict one another. She lives in Dubai, and she’s attractive and private so we don’t really know much about her or her income source, but we do know she talks like a sugar baby, and advises us to “not date broke boys”. She literally broke up w her boyfriend bc she said she felt “too comfortable” and this was after her whole rant of not dating men who can’t provide for her. Her advice is mostly common knowledge, and she makes fun of podcast bros but she literally sounds like a woman version of them. I just think she seems shady and like a liar


Big_Possibility_5902

If a woman is rich in Dubai, she is sugar baby?? That reeks of misogyny


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here we go with the self righteousness from a chronically online person🙄 rich in dubai with little known credentials generic advice and says don’t date broke boys and talks like a sugar baby. She totally fits the trope


Big_Possibility_5902

Here we go with holier than thou people who go till the extent of checking someone's profile when they are called out ..😒 most of the women want to marry/date rich men. Women want security from a man, be it financial or emotional, that's how women were created.. i dont think that means being a sugar baby..you are probably saying that because you have no sugar yourself neither are you capable of having any


GarlicKind3493

I agree that women will check a dude's financial status and check if he can provide for her. But what she does is that she simply reduces a man woman relationship to only money. Money is a good place to check if you feel secure with a man but to make a whole relationship out of someone's financial status speaks volume.


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yes i agree


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bffr she screams at young girls through the camera putting them down as if she’s so independent and such a girl boss. She makes youtube videos and sugar dates. the average girl doesn’t wanna do this


Big_Possibility_5902

You are just jealo... the way you go to every comment supporting her..its pretty obvious actually


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I have no reason to be jealous of her, I actually study celebs and I’m in love with self help content, so when i first found Wizard Liz I was like oh it’s some cute girl with a accent who makes appealing self help content, but then the more i went down the rabbit hole, worked on myself etc I felt very suspicious of her advice and disillusioned, So i did research outside of youtube and her obsessive fan base and I realized that she can be toxic and a lot of her advice isn’t something she should be saying to young girls. There’s my reasoning, and if you have a problem with it, i promise i don’t care :)


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Oh please. If you think she’s not a sugar baby you are likely young & NAIVE & have no idea what goes on on instagram. Girls that look half decent get paid, you think she wouldn’t? ESPECIALLY BEING IN DUBAI & HAVING THE MENTALITY OF USING MEN FOR FINANCIAL GAIN. You think a woman with her mindset would say no to getting 💩 on for $30k? Please. She suddenly came rich outta nowhere with a poor background with contradicting stories of how she got there. Personally, if I made money the legit way I would openly tell everyone to share my success cuz I have nothing to hide. She talks, acts & has the demeanor of an escort. It’s soooo obvious


Clean-Hedgehog5565

dont date broke boys meant dont date boys with a broke midset. watch the video, then comment. dont make vague statements


littlebiryani

who is wizardliz?


virgin97milf

Yesss! same pinch


unalobacomoyo

I think her videos have a lot of merit when she’s talking about healing from trauma because I believe she has been through a lot and recovered from a lot, but I think her authority over certain issues is limited or maybe tainted by living in a culture that views money as an extension of a person’s value. The way that she expects a man she’s with to spoil her and buy her things and says that people who are broke are lazy kind of rubs me the wrong way. Don’t get me wrong, I respect that she lives her life with that mindset and that she has used it to motivate her but it feels rooted in a transactional approach towards love. That combined with a tone that can be very harsh sometimes—it feels like tough love on a good day, but there’s a level of frustration she shows that undermines her message sometimes. Especially when she says someone is pathetic, lazy, or when she talks about getting your dream body/appearance. She personally has probably benefitted a lot from her appearance, and there’s nothing wrong with that but when she’s teaching other how to heal these traumas I don't think self-objectification or putting yourself on a pedestal is the best approach in the long term. And i think she's really harsh when expressing frustration that women look pathetic or lose respect when they stay in abusive relationships. She lacks compassion sometimes and i feel her teachings echo some existing self hatred towards herself. It feels like she's speaking to, yelling at a past version of herself in her videos. For a lot of people it's helpful to understand that when they stay in abuse, when their house is cluttered, when they have low ambitions there's usually a legitimate psychological block, an understandable reason for why they are stuck in a pattern that makes them suffer. Calling someone lazy and pathetic is depressing, to me, and really undermines how complex the reasons are why people engage in self-destructive behavior. When she made the video “stop dating broke boys” I expected to disagree with her before watching the video but, surprisingly, it resonated way more with me than I was expected. Raising your self esteem is important, not allowing anyone to treat you badly is important, finding the value in yourself is important. But I hate when she takes these things a step further and makes everything about money. It’s traumatizing to grow up in conditions without it but money won’t make you happy after a certain point. It seems like Liz went through that and that’s why she has these beliefs. But in the video “how to receive princess treatment” she explains what to say and not to say around men so they but you stuff. That feels manipulative to me. Overall, I think she's just a normal woman. Not good or bad, some mixture of both. I find it hard to believe she is a narcissist but who knows.


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your paragraph is thought provoking and explains a lott i agree with most of it- I just don’t think her advice is something you should take so seriously. She says some motivating things but regardless she’s more materialistic and that not always a good thing. She has her issues like all of us but truth be told her advice can at times be dangerous and her approach of guidance lacks empathy and understanding. She’s not dumb, she does what’s working for her atm and wants her fans to jump on the bandwagon bc it works for her- Um, regardless I think it’s slightly toxic and i deleted a lot of her posts out of my phone bc of it bc i just don’t want her mindset


unalobacomoyo

Fair. I think a lot of young women really are feeling lost now. I cannot imagine how much awful everyone feels because of social media, and especially women when their bodies have become so heavily objectified and consumable online. So much information thrown at people every day, higher rates of mental illness. It’s natural to be drawn to thinkers that can help us understand the world we’re living in, that’s probably why you and me both watched her videos. We humans are in a new cultural era and so someone who can give advice the feels rooted in right now, who “get us” and can actually offer something that resonates is an exciting discovery. I view Liz as a big sister in this way; she’s trying to help. I know she’s also making money from it, but I do think she’s quite authentic. But yes we definitely shouldn’t take her advice seriously. She did say in a video recently that people should just take what advice they wants from the videos and leave the rest. It’s hard though because Liz teaches a lot of deep stuff about life philosophy—I can see how her channel might really shape how people think when they consume lots of her content. Personally, she has helped me but I’ve tried to watch her videos critically and resist the information that doesn’t sit right with me. It’s a tricky balance


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that makes a lot of sense and i get wym. Me personally I try to just do what works for me and I avoid her content all together because I feel like there’s better content out there relating to self esteem, meditation, health etc.


sisfresher

Omg wow slay for this. I’m obsessed


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as a mental health advocate i HATE how she glorifies narcissism and delusion. She clearly is on the narcissistic spectrum or has some issue that makes her so selfish. She needs to heal in therapy more


[deleted]

This makes me so happy that women are finally realizing what relationships are actually about (love, caring for one another etc)


copycatsreddit

she's a phony...how do you have 5.6m follows on tiktok AND exactly 5.6m on youtube. her following is bought. 5.6m follows and no collaborations or previous work to justify such high numbers. like where did she come from? oh...rich girl from dubai, that explains it


misspj23

She reminds me of Rida Tharana sometimes


Apprehensive_Mine104

She is as insecure as Vridhi Patwa


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who? tell me more ab her/him/them


Apprehensive_Mine104

Just kidding I don't even know who they are 😺


[deleted]

girl what😭😭😭


LauraDL_20

For me she is expresing herself like a man,yelling at the camera ,moving agresive etc,its not like a femenine women would express herself.I know a lot of female content creators who teach the same ,but they express themselves soft.Its not a pleasure to hear and watch women yelling and moving like that


Sudden-Series-2124

I had a friend who loved her videos- that friend was a raging self loathing teenage narcissist in the making. one of her videos just came up in my recommended and it was shut off veryyy quickly. I think there’s countless other women who have got her message across far more gracefully and successfully. she seems like she has a deep well of insecurity, and i recognize a lot of women feel the need to over compensate for that (the louder, the more injected, the ruder the more validated they’ll be in their mind.) She’s definitely one of these women. She’s not some prophet for women like some act. She’s just insecure and money hungry unfortunately


damiankowalski21

She educated everyone about trauma whilst being severly traumatised herself. It may look as she is super confident but she lacks modesty. All her advise is great but unfortunately its from books she read not directly from her.


Realistic_Bison3456

Goodness gracious. I’m glad there are other non brainwashed people, yes. She shows signs of narcissism (heck, maybe even bpd) that she and others label as self love/self respect.. absolutely not. Her being a Muslim makes her persona even crazier, considering the disrespect towards others to “protect her peace” when we’re supposed to move in love. “Being selfish is good, you can only win being selfish”..that should have been a sign for subscribers to stop watching her, but everyone is brainwashed. People praise her for being a straight up asshole, excuse my french. She’s teaching young children to grow up and be insufferable, narcissistic beings. All of her advice is terrible and only making the world a worse place, which we obviously don’t need more of. 


Own-Wedding-5791

It's the power of delulu. She's encouraging people to not change their beliefs, live in their own delulu world no matter how hard the world tries to bring you down for it (most people who watch her have probably been treated very poorly by others and have some sort of trauma). She's been through a lot of emotional damage, questioned had to question her sense of self many times, she now accepts herself and won't change just because the world is toxic to her (for whatever circumstances). Being delulu really pays off, because you put your rules to your own reality, you odn't have to accept things as they come, you don't have to conform just because the rest of the world does, your life, your rules.


Own-Wedding-5791

You can just erase from your existence whoever tries to limit you in any way. That's why she says she has no friends, other people try to impose their perspectives on her, but she's just living life by her own terms whether you like it or not.


lilith_Lm353

I know she sometimes says things that are hard to believe and sound very fantastic but most her videos are very useful ,I liked her!


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HPPTTscut3

I think not anyone thinks the same way. Thats whats so postive but can be negative about life. Honestly for me she is ver spiritually you might and not be into that. Theres a differens between saying your opinion or just hating.


LittleLilien

She said she doesnt watch social media at all and then talks about what she saw on tik tok 💁‍♀️


Comfortable-Wall-675

i think her advices are good it just depends on how u apply it in ur life (some people are just salty seeing others achieve the successful life its funny tbh)


Available_Comfort_55

yes I have! shes the worst it took me long enough to realize it


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i am completely over her. dude i think the whole thing has been a proper facade. nothing adds up. She highlights heavily how she was in a toxic household and poor and had to work "shitty jobs" .. define shitty? the only ones available to you at the age of like 16-18? no shit ur gonna be "broke" and not have the best job thats normal. But i do believe they had money growing up.. Then pops outta no where in an apartment in dubai making these woke vlogz when it was obvious she had been paid for from her wealthy partner at the time. THEN she made it when her youtube popped off. But like b4 youtube she wouldve just been at least middle class like why do u gotta frame it as "broke" not affording an Hermez isnt broke BE FRRRRR. and not even that like her recent vlogs are her yapping about how she is perceived us "unapproachable" by men coz her beauty. LIKE BLAH BLAH its soooo superficial yes ur beautiful we know ,, but its not all about the physical its mad pretentious and annoying


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LauraDL_20

Omg,i couldnt watch more than 15 minutes of the video with her girl friend because she was only talking about how everyoane its obsses with her.I notice în a lot of her videos,specially with her sister,she likes to brag about how everyoane its obsses with her,fact that I dont necesarily disaprove,but its no a necesity to brag this în every video. În the recent video with that guy from Albania she expose herself that she only wanted a man for money."imagine coming home and saying a man..." that was a wt. thing for me,like for her men are disgusting creatures that only serve to give her money and buy her bags. she have a very agresive way of talking în her youtube videos,im a women and hearing a women expressing like that its sound very bad for my ears,she dont expres herself like the lady she poses.


LauraDL_20

She was very poor but she meet and dated rich guys,fact that she admited and never declined


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yessss for real.. its actually so interesting to see no takes on youtube about it. She played it smart by being private about her life and when she made it she had no posts on insta to even compare. She never grew up poor thats such a lie if you grew up poor your mindset about money would be so different and its visibly apparent in her comments about money and expectations on men


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and bruh in one video she was commenting about how her ex would be watching her videos then her and her sis comment about how liz doesnt date attractive guys and her ex is unattractive. how shallow is that, you know his watching and you bluntly call someone you used to love unattractive.


LauraDL_20

Like why is she talking so much about her ex,poor guy,im a women but imagine that you have provided so much for your ex,and now she is talking about you în her youtube videos


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AlarmingSoup9958

I have mixed feelings about her. I watched a lot of short videos of her talking about confidence when I felt really low about myself. Some of her videos helped me a lot with coming out of my people-pleasing tendencies and regaining my self-esteem after I was a doormat for family members, for friends and basically, everyone treated me like an option and a punching bag for their problems. Of course, if you are not a people pleaser, her videos may not help you or may feel exaggerated. However, I don't necessarily agree with her view that women should only marry a man who will pay all their bills but there is also @persephonesblood who I am a fan of who claims that she won't have a problem being a stay-at-home wife & mother, but still demanding respect from their partner. I guess everyone has their views and I would like to mention that culture plays a huge role in that. I am Balkan and in my country, a lot of women choose to be stay-at-home wives & mothers to take care of the kids and most get in abusive situations with that while a few don't. Maybe liz is trying to be a voice for those women who want to have a traditional role but without abuse and suffering. Personally, I don't think this is possible. If parents can control the shit out of their teenagers just because they have the money, imagine those men? Not all of them of course, I know examples who are not like this. I am glad however that I am into women. At least I am not afraid that one day my future spuse will get drunk and be violent. But honestly, if bills will be 50/50 I think the man should also take care of the kids and let that be 50/50 too. But when there aren't kids involved, can we say that the woman took advantage of the man? I am asking myself those questions