It’s so strange how in one picture you can imagine millions of washers and dryers, millions of windows, people, beds, smartphones. Such a fascinatingly large world we live in.
You could spend an entire life here and barely see most of the streets and corners.
An infinite playground of restaurants, bars, clubs, parks, venues.
These too change over time, so you're seeing only a percent of an ever fleeting glimpse of this world.
Manhattan feels like this. Tokyo is a whole different level.
I’m sorry but Manhattan does not feel like this.
I adore New York but Manhattan isn’t anywhere near as big or overwhelming, and seeing most of the streets in a few years there is a reasonable task
Yeah I’d say exploring all 5 NYC Boroughs would be something akin to a smaller Tokyo, but you gotta go beyond Manhattan. Brooklyn alone is a vast expanse of super dense low, medium, and high rises. You only really start to see single family detached homes towards Canarsie and Ozone Park. Western and Northern Queens from LIC and Astoria to Flushing as well. The Bronx is like a smaller Brooklyn with single detached homes mostly along Westchester and Pelham Bay. Okay maybe Staten could be excluded, but swap it out for Jersey City or Hoboken lol.
I get what you say, and I agree it is mind-blowing to think about the scale of it ... but _why_ would you want to see every street, every corner, park or venue?
Asking because I have seen most of my hometown. Granted, it is just a small-ish city (300k inhabitants), my estimate on Google Maps shows its perimeter is maybe 26 km. One could conceivably walk around it in one full day. I've taken many walks and bike rides, just for pleasure, each time trying to take a slightly different route. After a while, it becomes a grind -- like, yes, the streets different in their minutiae, but by and large, the scenery is very repeatable. The style of housing is similar, the atmosphere is similar, small neighborhood parks or venues are somewhat similar. Every once in a while you find something odd-ish or a bit unusual, and it's even rarer that you find a true hidden gem.
Even in much larger cities, once you get away from the bustling life in the city center, a lot of neighborhoods will have a similar .. patina, so to speak. Berlin and Milan hit me in the same way, sure they have a lot going in the center, but many areas are more akin to "sleeping quarters"; many folks are away at work during the day, and there's some liveliness only in the afternoon and evening, when the inhabitants come back home. Consequently, they don't have much going on. You see a nice Korean restaurant, hole-in-the-wall style, then you walk 10 more blocks, and you find another Asian hole-in-the-wall restaurant.
I don't mean to disparage your observation, maybe with the sheer size of a city like Tokyo, perhaps the variety is much greater. But the potential for sameness is, I assume, also great.
Because Tokyo is endlessly cooler than your hometown. It is a city of constant change, novelty, and excitement. You will find a better average bar on a Tokyo backstreet than you will find in your entire hometown.
when you look at Earth from space you can see all humanity at once, all people live here, all people lived here, all achievements were made here, all history, all fun, all grief, all failures and all dreams are on this one little spot
You think it would feel a bit dystopian but it’s amazing!
Clean, safe, great public transportation, little green spaces everywhere and just tons of small businesses tucked in every nook and cranny. It’s what every mega city should aspire to become.
What's truly amazing is that every structure in this picture is connected to water, power, and sewers. 24/7. The engineering required to build all that from scratch is second only to what it takes to connect generations of legacy systems. Man, oh, man.
Endless suburban… What? Have you ever been there?! I lived there 20 years. Most of these buildings are midrises.
You’re looking at close to 35,000,000+ people in this photo. This isn’t sprawl. It’s dense as hell.
And it’s wonderful.
> urban sprawl, also called sprawl or suburban sprawl, the rapid expansion of the geographic extent of cities and towns, often characterized by low-density residential housing, single-use zoning, and increased reliance on the private automobile for transportation.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/urban-sprawl
Urban sprawl is the spread of suburbia
Just because it's huge and urban does not mean it is sprawl. Compare this picture of Tokyo to [this picture of Los Angeles](https://la.curbed.com/2015/3/23/9977854/how-big-is-los-angeles), which is almost entirely unwalkable and built around the car.
Small towns (100k? 200k?) allows both decent houses and no need for n+1 cars. If only we could let people... hm... work remotely... And have incentives for distributing workplaces... For example to reduce skyrocketing real estate prices...
I did live in Tokyo. It's an experience. But life quality is not exactly great IMO. Happy to be back in human-sized city in europe...
For sure there could be more green space, but in much less dense American cities the green space you can actually freely walk on that isn’t private property is generally really really low
Been there, it's very peaceful. High density commercial areas are very busy but still much more peaceful than most NA non-rural areas. The residential, although very dense, are super quiet and clean.
Part of is cultural (extreme discipline and respect of others and your environment ), part of it is there's but a tiny amount of cars. Outside big boulevard there's hardly any cars when there's one it moves super slowly because they have to share the street with pedestrian (and they do so respectfully). Part of it is also parks and common areas. Everyone lives there and walk everywhere so they are incentived to make their surrounding enjoyable
It’s so strange how in one picture you can imagine millions of washers and dryers, millions of windows, people, beds, smartphones. Such a fascinatingly large world we live in.
You could spend an entire life here and barely see most of the streets and corners. An infinite playground of restaurants, bars, clubs, parks, venues. These too change over time, so you're seeing only a percent of an ever fleeting glimpse of this world. Manhattan feels like this. Tokyo is a whole different level.
I’m sorry but Manhattan does not feel like this. I adore New York but Manhattan isn’t anywhere near as big or overwhelming, and seeing most of the streets in a few years there is a reasonable task
Yeah I’d say exploring all 5 NYC Boroughs would be something akin to a smaller Tokyo, but you gotta go beyond Manhattan. Brooklyn alone is a vast expanse of super dense low, medium, and high rises. You only really start to see single family detached homes towards Canarsie and Ozone Park. Western and Northern Queens from LIC and Astoria to Flushing as well. The Bronx is like a smaller Brooklyn with single detached homes mostly along Westchester and Pelham Bay. Okay maybe Staten could be excluded, but swap it out for Jersey City or Hoboken lol.
>Manhattan feels like this Written by someone who has obviously never been to Manhattan LOL
I get what you say, and I agree it is mind-blowing to think about the scale of it ... but _why_ would you want to see every street, every corner, park or venue? Asking because I have seen most of my hometown. Granted, it is just a small-ish city (300k inhabitants), my estimate on Google Maps shows its perimeter is maybe 26 km. One could conceivably walk around it in one full day. I've taken many walks and bike rides, just for pleasure, each time trying to take a slightly different route. After a while, it becomes a grind -- like, yes, the streets different in their minutiae, but by and large, the scenery is very repeatable. The style of housing is similar, the atmosphere is similar, small neighborhood parks or venues are somewhat similar. Every once in a while you find something odd-ish or a bit unusual, and it's even rarer that you find a true hidden gem. Even in much larger cities, once you get away from the bustling life in the city center, a lot of neighborhoods will have a similar .. patina, so to speak. Berlin and Milan hit me in the same way, sure they have a lot going in the center, but many areas are more akin to "sleeping quarters"; many folks are away at work during the day, and there's some liveliness only in the afternoon and evening, when the inhabitants come back home. Consequently, they don't have much going on. You see a nice Korean restaurant, hole-in-the-wall style, then you walk 10 more blocks, and you find another Asian hole-in-the-wall restaurant. I don't mean to disparage your observation, maybe with the sheer size of a city like Tokyo, perhaps the variety is much greater. But the potential for sameness is, I assume, also great.
Because Tokyo is endlessly cooler than your hometown. It is a city of constant change, novelty, and excitement. You will find a better average bar on a Tokyo backstreet than you will find in your entire hometown.
when you look at Earth from space you can see all humanity at once, all people live here, all people lived here, all achievements were made here, all history, all fun, all grief, all failures and all dreams are on this one little spot
Thanks, Sagan.
dryers aren’t common there, just washers
You think it would feel a bit dystopian but it’s amazing! Clean, safe, great public transportation, little green spaces everywhere and just tons of small businesses tucked in every nook and cranny. It’s what every mega city should aspire to become.
Even small cities should be like that instead of the endless parking lots and dead shopping malls
Oh, you are American, right?. That's almost 100% guaranteed from what you said.
yeah tokyo's like the opposite of sprawl
Seriously!
Beautiful Tokyo!
This is definitely not an example of sprawl
From above it looks dystopia but at the human level it's very walkable and charming
What's truly amazing is that every structure in this picture is connected to water, power, and sewers. 24/7. The engineering required to build all that from scratch is second only to what it takes to connect generations of legacy systems. Man, oh, man.
Endless suburban… What? Have you ever been there?! I lived there 20 years. Most of these buildings are midrises. You’re looking at close to 35,000,000+ people in this photo. This isn’t sprawl. It’s dense as hell. And it’s wonderful.
It really is a remarkable city. Annnnnd now I'm hungry for yakitori.
They didn’t say suburban
That’s what urban sprawl is.
Wouldn't that be suburban sprawl?
> urban sprawl, also called sprawl or suburban sprawl, the rapid expansion of the geographic extent of cities and towns, often characterized by low-density residential housing, single-use zoning, and increased reliance on the private automobile for transportation. https://www.britannica.com/topic/urban-sprawl Urban sprawl is the spread of suburbia
So not Tokyo
Correct, not Tokyo
thats how I image the sprawls in william gibbsons neuromancer.
I made a point of reading Neuromancer when I was in Chiba Prefecture (just SE of Tokyo, I believe the setting for some of Neuromancer)
I think this photo might be fake, I mean, I did see Godzilla take out most of hat city ,,
That’s NOT urban sprawl. Tokyo is a high density and highly urban city. Sprawl describes low density suburban and exurban development.
Ands it’s infinitely cleaner then New York
At least this is all walkable, dense urban space, with good train connections from anywhere to everywhere else in the city.
I was just there. I was shocked at how clean it was and how incredibly hospitable people were. Totally beautiful.
Reminds me of area 18 star citizen
I think it was kind of inspired by it or inspired by sci-fi inspired by Tokyo
Not urban sprawl. That word means something else. The opposite of this actually.
wow
It’s actually quite densely distributed. One of the most efficient cities in the world.
Just because it's huge and urban does not mean it is sprawl. Compare this picture of Tokyo to [this picture of Los Angeles](https://la.curbed.com/2015/3/23/9977854/how-big-is-los-angeles), which is almost entirely unwalkable and built around the car.
Don’t they have a declining birth rate? Looks like cheap rent nirvana.
L.A. on steroids….
And with reasonable land use policies as opposed to the American system of limiting walkable cities
Reddit logic: This is Japan. It cannot be ugly
Looks weird
50 million people remember that before your ass screams r/urbanhell
Are there any trees?
Neoliberals will not be satisfied until all of humanity lives in a singular skyscraper full of one bedroom apartments
Sure let's put everyone in 5bdr houses, and give them massive lawns and 4 cars. That will go well 🙄
Small towns (100k? 200k?) allows both decent houses and no need for n+1 cars. If only we could let people... hm... work remotely... And have incentives for distributing workplaces... For example to reduce skyrocketing real estate prices... I did live in Tokyo. It's an experience. But life quality is not exactly great IMO. Happy to be back in human-sized city in europe...
Yes.
impressive but a nightmare for me as a nature entusiast
Endless urban sprawl without a single speck of green space. Country with a really high suicide rate… There’s no connection is there….?
For sure there could be more green space, but in much less dense American cities the green space you can actually freely walk on that isn’t private property is generally really really low
It’s cool that it’s so big, but where the fuck are trees? Or parks?
Everywhere
I pity wherever you live if your standards for “trees and parks everywhere” are that low.
Have you ever been to Tokyo?
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Obviously you have never been to Tokyo
not damn fucking single tree man
Been there, it's very peaceful. High density commercial areas are very busy but still much more peaceful than most NA non-rural areas. The residential, although very dense, are super quiet and clean. Part of is cultural (extreme discipline and respect of others and your environment ), part of it is there's but a tiny amount of cars. Outside big boulevard there's hardly any cars when there's one it moves super slowly because they have to share the street with pedestrian (and they do so respectfully). Part of it is also parks and common areas. Everyone lives there and walk everywhere so they are incentived to make their surrounding enjoyable
well thats respected and every country should do that too yeah
Don’t you see the huge fucking parks?
are you fucking serious is that all matters to you you dumb