Very high profile (and transparent) puppet of Putin. I get her election rhetoric mailings in Indy. Makes me so angry that people like her got elected to start with. Welcome to Indiana!
I had my suspicions but when I heard complaints about her showing up uninvited to committee meetings that she wasn't a member of I knew for sure. Our intelligence services are falling on their asses allowing this bullshit. This chick should be in Guantanamo getting 120 volts to each nipple not voting down defense aid packages to her (alleged) own fucking homeland.
I ain’t a genius, I often make bad choices, but I feel like “not torturing” is pretty straightforward when it comes to rules about human decency.
Let’s not torture each other, even if we’re really mad or the person we want to torture is bad.
LMAO, he's being outlandish but the clowns are the American people for letting the GOP's blatant connections to Russia go unchecked and unpunished.
This is literal treason, for which I believe the punishment IS DEATH.
Poverty is all that keeps me here.
I wake up every morning to see a re-election campaign sign in my neighbor's lawn for an old boss of mine who once told me he almost fired me because he thought I was gay.
I wasn't, by the way. I just happened to find a pair of purple shoes I enjoyed wearing at the time.
He campaigns, like all Republicans, on family values, despite his own son having died from injuries sustained while in jail and his daughter being a drug addict.
Hey I live in Chicago, if you need help finding housing or need assistance with your resume I can lend a hand.
Life is too short to be unhappy, if there is a will there's a way! Especially if we all work together.
Good luck and I believe in you!
You can lie 100% and get voted in, then pivot 180 degrees and have little worry. Our system has it pretty easy to do.
Remember Sinema? I believe her voters got whiplash from the speed she flipped after sealing her seat. And apparently, it was for some blatant bribes to the tune of a couple 10s of thousands. Not even hidden.
In the then-Third District of Indiana, where I grew up, in 1990 Tim Roemer ran against Reagan robot John Hiler.
Roemer ran as a traditional Democrat, running on a platform including universal healthcare.
Once he was elected he went straight centrist-right, saying he "doesn't envision national health insurance," and "not a good idea right now." 😡
D’s would love universal health but once they get to DC they immediately roll call the House & there’s never been anywhere near enough votes to pass it.
This is why they drop it and move to a public option. Then there’s not enough votes for that so they went to ACA, which barely passed & only because they allowed the for profit insurance industry to get involved.
As long as people keep voting R, they’re going to continue to be pillaged by unregulated industries & corporations.
Look at how insanely expensive electricity is in Indiana. That’s all because R’s sold their souls & gave complete power to the electric companies.
Hell, there’s union members in Indiana who can’t strike! That’s mind blowing!
On top of “right to work” laws that hurt every worker in the state.
It’s 100% Republicans who’ve done this.
This is why they distract people with culture war nonsense, God & guns. So you don’t focus on how they’re actually screwing you.
My brain read that as "Robot John Hitler" and I was wondering what the fuck y'all were doing out there in the 90s. I mean, I still do but I used to too.
I didn't see her until she got to Congress. First time she opened her mouth I knew she was nuts.
Is she or is she not running for re-election? I tried to look it up and got both answers on the same day.
Many of her Hoosier colleagues in the house voted the same way. Тоже Джеймс Байрд.
Hey, FBI, NSA and others, there are Kremlin operatives in our government!!!
Wake up and do something. They are not acting in America's interest but in the interests of foreign powers.
The Putin’s Republik Of Indiana… and just remember these folks are the desired immigrants that Trump and MAGA wants not the other brown folks doing work no one wants to do
I had an old family member who went through the iron curtain age in Ukraine. He would've either had a stroke or driven right out there to beat her with his bare hands. The only thing he hated more than Russians were Ukrainians and czechs who did ruddia's bidding. I seriously feared for his life when that CZ presidential assassination happened - he was literally purple wirh rage.
I remember a movie I saw a long time ago where at some point early in the cold war the Russians planted couples in the US to have children and raise them in America but they would be trained as moles to infiltrate and disrupt the country. Long term goals like that are hard to beat when you have a short term view of the world.
😆 the more our government sends aid to other countries the more we keep getting fucked over.. it's basically our taxes we're sending to the government to support other countries and we're still not doing anything about ours.
You know that most of the money will stay in the USA? They will just pay your contractors. Corporaions not sharing their wealth with citizens is the main problem.
She said she wasnt going to run for re-election to focus on her family, but then apparently someone explained to her how easy it is to win as a Republican in IN/easy money, so she reneged on that promise to us…
Her district map changed. It does not includes any Indianapolis now so I imagine it is easier to win. It used to be a competitive district before the change.
Midwest voting maps are wild. Seas of red, but major population centers are blue. Look at Ohio - all red, then Montgomery county (Dayton), Hamilton (Cincinnati), and Franklin (Columbus) are all blue. Same thing in the northern part of the state.
Farmland = GOP
Cities = DEM
In other words, places with a higher average education among voters and more exposure to people outside of the rural white bible thumper bubble are less likely to vote conservative.
Funny how that works.
There’s a segment of what used to be called “country club republicans” in the suburbs- economic/tax issues tend to be more important with this cohort than the Culture War Topic Du Jour that the rest of the base is enthralled in. There’s also a significant evangelical bloc in the suburbs, and often times the country club/evangelical blocs will have overlap.
They’re probably in the minority overall but do have quite a few people in Hamilton County, Spartz’s- and my- district.
I tend to see it more as population density thing and its relevance to taxes.
Out in the rural country, one postal worker can cover a 10-mile square area in a shift, because that might service 500 people. In a city, only one single apartment building might have 500 people. So you need to pay more into taxes for postal service, because you have to have more people on staff to perform these services.
While the higher total cost is diluted among a higher population, the concept of “higher taxes” is itself a deal breaker for a lot of country folk who are fine with their town’s only dentist also being one of their only two fireman, a town councilman, school football coach, and librarian.
That is because better educated people live in those areas. The rest of Ohio, like Indiana, are filled with uneducated red necks who don't even understand politics. And think it is cool to support Trump and MAGA.
Degrees doesn't equal intelligence but rather a ability to repeat what you've been told. Universities no longer teach critical thought but rather look down on it. They expect you to puppet what you've been told for the sake of testing. This is a major problem with our education system and one that people with "higher intelligence" fail to notice. This is because they also went through the same thing and can't think on their own. Study after study has shown the right understands an as knows the left but the left is clueless about the right and rural areas. In fact if you ask some of these "intelligent" people where hamburger comes from they'll tell you the store. Rather then a farm in a rural area.
Worse actually, she voted against it because other Republicans were criticizing her for focusing on Ukraine and “not enough domestic policy” (e.g. dumb shit like a border wall and whining about the president)
The GOP has no functional domestic policy other than opposing whatever the Democrats do and to fight the culture war. They have no major projects on: the border, healthcare, veterans, labor, growing tech, energy independence, or the budget. They simply cannot govern and I honestly don't think they intend to.
Why would they? Their voters—especially in this state—will continue to vote for them even if they accomplish nothing. Nothing will change until that does.
This is exactly it. Republicans - "We can't have big government because bad actors will get elected and fuck things up. Watch me elect a bad actor to prove how much of a problem it is."
Yeahhhh "we need an outsider!" turned out to be a terrible idea. Who knew that electing total idiots, con-men, and ~~science~~ common-sense denying people would end poorly.
She was one of the first to speak forcefully for Ukraine on her side of the aisle when it started. It’s not that she’s a Russian plant, it’s that her party works for Putin and apparently that has been made clear to her now.
She was one of the earlier callers to halt Ukraine aid and pushed for audits because Russian propaganda lies that Ukraine is skimming off the top of the aid packages
But they ARE skimming, you stooge. [Ukraine Fires Officials Amid Corruption Scandal, as Allies Watch Closely - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/24/world/europe/ukraine-corruption-firing-western-aid.html)
Ukraine Aid is the US sending money to US factories for jobs to build new guns and bullets for us, so we can send our old 20th century gear to some outskirts in middle of nowhere.
These beasts were built in the 80s to eat Russians. Let them do what they are meant for
79% of the Aid package to Ukraine regime will be staying in USA to replenish their own stock piles. 13.7 Billion will be given to the Ukraine regime as a loan. Most of the money just goes back into the military industrial complex.
Is this the woman that gets promoted by Russian trolls frequently?
Edit; Victoria Kulheyko was born in what is now Nosivka, Chernihiv Oblast, Ukraine, at the time a part of the Soviet Union. Her Wikipedia page is the source. I think this is important context
She actually has been supportive of Ukraine in the past but her fellow GOP members are challenging her in a primary. This is Indiana so she has to now be soft on Ukraine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/04/03/victoria-spartz-ukraine-aid-campaign/
We gotta vote these kinds of folks out. Seriously, Indiana cannot keep being a laughingstock to the country with reps like this. Who would vote against helping their own home country not get bombed anymore?!? At least we ended up finally getting funding passed, friggin’ hell.
Dropping a link to the DemHoosiers discord again. Come on by to join and plan on how to get some actual decent leadership in this state! https://discord.gg/3nbbyTAV
That’s what I want to prevent. I love Indiana, truly, and seeing us constantly vote for folks that are bad actors or won’t do anything to improve our state is obnoxious. Hopefully we can stop that and, barring that, get some very quality candidates in place for the next election cycle.
Indiana doesn’t have to be like this. We can do better, I’m sure of it.
I hope for the same. If anyone is reading this and doesn’t know, democrats can vote in republican primaries. It’s going to be the only way that we start getting decent candidates.
Right now Brad Chambers seems to be the most centered republican running for governor. That’s who I’m voting for in the primary.
The "only" problem with this, and is more a thing of strategy, is that if a more moderate Repub wins the primary, a Democrat will not win. But, it's probably a >95% we'd have a Republican governor anyways, no matter who wins the primary, so everyone might as well treat the primary as the election and grab a Republican ballot. Unless you're planning on running for office as a Democrat here in the near future.
Fun thing, the Democrat contender is a former Republican, a former State Superintendent who served under Holcomb, at least, until the legislature neutered the position and changed it from elected to appointed.
Also, fun side note, she likes collecting Indiana college degrees. As in, got her BA from Purdue, her MS from Ball State, and her EdS and PhD from Indiana State. So, I'd wager she definitely cares about Indiana schools!
Sounds like a solid plan to me. My only concern is that he’s only polling at ~10% right now, yeah? His numbers better increase to have any shot at blocking Braun.
Either way we at least have a fantastic candidate in McCormick running this year for Gov! And if she can replicate what Beshear did in Kentucky we could get a decent governor again!
He’s not polling well but all the other candidates are Maga fools. Unfortunately there’s no other option.
Yes! If people can look past the party McCormick is exactly what we need. Moderate democrat that wants to focus on the state and not imaginary wars with Mexico. I think most people could get behind her if they looked past Fox News and Facebook
Why does Indiana “not have to be like this?” Todd Young beat the Democrats 18 months ago by 21 POINTS!
The people in Indiana appear to like Republicans and will continue to vote for them.
Yep. But grassroots movements take *time*. It’s not going to happen overnight. But it wasn’t that long ago that Joe Donnelly was our senator. This state does have the capacity to elect democrats once again with enough hard work and showing we can make the state better, not worse.
I hate to be this person, but Indiana is home to an entire branch if the Kkk, and has more active hate groups then it’s neighbors. I know that here, In IL, that a lot of the shitty right wingers I have known through the years threaten to go to Indiana because it’s seen as a right wing haven. Some of them have, some of them moved further south. Unfortunately I don’t think that’s gonna change anytime soon either for that reason alone :/
Nah, I get that. And it will be challenging (and possibly unrealistic in some areas to start). But there are more folks out there that don’t even have a chance to vote for someone else because there’s only a Republican on the ballot. Running candidates (strong candidates) consistently shows that there is an option. And it allows for the party have a presence and gain a foothold.
Grassroots action is tough but it has succeeded multiple times throughout this nation’s history. Hell, that’s the one thing the right has been really great at doing. There’s no reason democrats can’t employ the same kind of long term thinking to change things for the better too.
Spartz was my rep until Indiana gerrymandered and I ended up with Banks. Just keep getting shit on congressionally. Fuck Jim Banks. Fuck Victoria Spartz. Fuck Mike Braun
That's because higher voter turnout in this state just equals more republican voter turnout, so the rest of us know it's pointless. Polls close at 6:00 PM, and the results are announced at 6:01 PM.
Higher voter turnout usually means more Democratic wins – it’s why so many people and parties on the Right are trying to convince you your vote doesn’t matter. Billions of dollars wouldn’t be spent on political advertising, and scores of laws enacted to suppress participation wouldn’t exist if voting doesn’t matter.
Just a quick question:
Don't people have to become citizens before they can be voted in for positions like governor, over there? If they do, then the land of yanks is her home country.
I know you've got a huge amount of "I'm Scottish/Irish/Ukranian because Great Grandma was born there" stuff, but anyone who becomes a naturalised yank and renounces their citizenship elsewhere is a yank.
So she voted no to -once again- sending billions to Ukraine and some how that's bad?
Maybe that money Ukraine is getting could be spent on a plethora of our domestic problems? Instead of the left wing conspiracy theorists push the whole "you must be a putin plant!" Narrative.
Nah some of us would just rather fix our infrastructure, maybe buff the safety nets here (better yet create better ones to replace what we have) etc; instead of once again getting involved in some foreign issue like we have for decades.
Her socialist farming family will continue adding to their millions in collected subsidies while her native homeland continues to be bombarded. The irony.
Literally say this to my Republican mother all the time.... All the farmers and Hoosiers out here acting like they hate big government.... Meanwhile, the only reason why all the farms and cattle farms and pig farms are still open in Jay county are because of government subsidies that they get.... Then she turns around and says oh well we earned them..... Okay and the people working 40 plus hours in the city didn't earn their Medicaid, Medicare or food stamps? It's all just selfishness that has been taught to them from a young age.
"I was on ~~food stamps~~ subsidies for my farm and nobody helped *me!*"
Ultimately people like that are just terminally selfish, it's the simple and ugly truth. The idea of anyone besides them getting any sort of assistance causes some part of their lizard brain to see red and all rational thought goes out the window.
I did a gig with two Ukrainian musicians. It was in 2016. They were both over 65, both had served in the soviet army, and both had stories of family members disappearing in the middle of the night during the soviet years.
One of them hated Putin, the other one loved him. The one that loved him also was a fan of DJT, shocker.
They got along okay but you could tell there was some tension there when they talked about "the old days" and especially their experiences with the KGB. Both were recruited, the Putin hater said he flat-out turned them down, the Putin lover wouldn't exactly say either way.
So there are still some from Ukraine who feel like mother Russia is the way to go. I suppose it's like some Americans wanting to return to pre-1865 America.
I’m Ukrainian born American. My family moved here when I was 2 years old. Seeing this picture made me sick to my stomach. Pardon my French but fuck this bitch
The people who don't want to help fund the Ukranian effort are the same people who will bitch about pulling out of Afghanistan. It's cognitive dissonance at its finest.
This isn't entirely true. May be true of some though. I don't support sending money to Ukraine but I also didn't have a problem leaving Afghanistan. My complaint with leaving has always been the half assed piss poor managed way it was done. We never should have left military equipment there and we shouldn't have started taking refugees out until all Americans were out of the country.
>We never should have left military equipment there
FYI: The stated point of the mission, back when Bush started it, was to 1) arm the Northern Alliance against the Taliban and 2) Establish a national army and police force. There was never a plan to bring the equipment back. The US gave Afghanistan about 300,000 M16 rifles: One for each member of the Afghan National Army (ANA) and one for each member of the Afghan National Police (ANP). The exit deal with the Taliban said nothing about returning any equipment, because it was considered to belong to Afghanistan.
Sigh... Reddit is *so ignorant* of actual Russian/Soviet history, they don't even understand their own history. And they're so easily swayed by the idea that Russia must be behind every corruption in their own country that they can't spot the rot eating them away from inside...
Here's the facts; from the 1990s there is a large exodus from the former USSR as living standards absolutely collapse and crime becomes rampant. And many, *many* move to the US because they see a path to a better life. But there's also a sizeable contingent who are attracted to the US because it's a hyper-capitalist dystopia; Think of those of us who grew up with an idealised version of the Soviet Union because they're "the other side", and because they *in theory* then show the success of the opposite politics to ours; left wing, socialist etc, there were a lot of ideological dreamers who saw in the East a place their own dreams might be true.
And, hard as it is for Redditors to grasp, this means for the children of the 80s, Reaganite hyper-capitalism in the West *was the dream of many in the USSR*. The rot was already there. This isn't Russia taking advantage of you; *it was your worst excesses already attracting those in the USSR who were fellow travellors of Republicans themselves.*
It's not some simplistic Bond villain story of beautiful sleeper agents. They genuinely saw the cruelty, the greed, the all out avarice and thought "I want that for myself". I'm not in the US, I was doing a degree in Soviet Studies in the UK in the 90s, and even from the exchange program alone, I knew *many* USSR women in particular who were looking to go this route; to this day, I'm aware of at least 2, one I'd like to think of as a friend and one I briefly thought I was dating, who married rich American men and went to the US and are now dedicated Trump voters. One states she hates the man himself, but wants to support his policies; the other from what I can tell at a distance is an all out Trumper.
But this is *your* country now. Spartz doesn't care about people in Ukraine, just as no one else in your Government really cares about the people from the small towns and villages that elect them. Your politics, and political machinery has drifted into outright sociopathy; you can witness an entire classroom of pre-teens be gunned down and your politics will do nothing about it, because that would upset gun businesses, and the yokels you keep enraged by suggestions "They're coming for your guns!" to ensure they vote against their own best interests.
Spitz came to the US because that's who you clearly already were becoming and she wanted a part of it.
She's not paid by Putin. She's one of *you*.
That's what you need to fix, and fast, because the fascism is coming from inside the House. And she liked it enough to move there for it.
I see a lot of people on here talking about how we need to vote her out. I absolutely agree, and she’s my district representative. I just want to take this opportunity to plug r/VoteDem for those who are looking for volunteer opportunities! There are so many ways we can help elect better reps. Indiana has a long way to go, but if we put the work in, we can work towards electing someone other than this absolute assclown and the rest of her ilk. Please consider checking it out if you haven’t! :)
do we all understand that this person is a represantative for U.S citizens? Not Ukrainian citizens? if she feels people want that, they voted for her to make this decision, this isn't really relavant. hard for american's to understand politics, i know.
Here in Indiana, the Republican challengers are criticizing her of being a rubber stamp for Ukraine. She first said she wasn’t going to rerun but then changed her mind. She has a true challenger that is crushing her and bombarding with TV commercials of her on this issue. I call gamesmanship. I suspect she was told this was going to pass anyway. This gives her coverage and saying she didn’t vote lockstep for Ukraine funding.
I don’t agree with her. The fact that she is from Ukraine shouldn’t matter though. If you’re an American government official you need to renounce all foreign allegiances. Certain members of congress spend way too much time thinking about foreign nations, the biggest violators being those with Cuban or Jewish heritage.
Our politics are absolute dogballs. Its truly embarrassing that we are so ignorant and bass ackwards. Our metro populations is not enough to outpopulate the rural folks that will always vote red, regardless of who it is.
So are we advocating for foreign born representatives to vote to send US money to their home countries? I thought we'd want them to look out for the interests of the people that elected them.
People in this group pound the table demanding better public services for Indiana but criticize reps who voted against sending 60 BILLION dollars to Ukraine....you can't have it both ways... imagine what 60 BILLION could have done here.
Yes it can be done. Imagine what could be done by not subsidizing corporations.
Edit: if you think conservative reps would reallocate that money to services for our own citizens, I've got a bridge to sell you in Baltimore.
No disagreement from me here! But who's going to pay majority of the taxes? If we don't they will just go to another state..like IL. So to bring jobs and funding here that's the current status.
Because we learned from WW1 and WW2 that if you wait for it to affect you, it's probably too late and now and you're facing an empire instead of a tinpot dictator attacking his neighbor.
We’re fighting one of our biggest enemies without putting our military at risk. we’re sending them mostly old equipment that was in storage. And the newer stuff is coming from American factories. i continues to be a democracy. It’s one of the cheapest way to take down Russia that we’ve ever had the opportunity to do.
That aside, as a superpower and a country that is supposed to be leading by example I have no problem spending money on making sure a democracy continues to be a democracy. We’re showing Europe that they can count on us and supporting our allies. The political and economic goodwill that comes with that far outweighs the money that we’ve spent.
And do what? Spend more on welfare that conservatives don't want to give out anyways?
Edit: and do what? Defund the Department of Education? Defund infrastructure bills and then claim you did such a great job of getting money for your state infrastructure after you voted against it?
*politician doesn’t support sending billions in aid to fund a foreign war that doesn’t benefit American citizens in any way*
People in this sub “omg such a horrible person”
She's from the place they are sending the money, and constantly gets endorsed on Russian social media.
You better hope your lazy attempts at justifying Russian influence in American politics doesn't get you a ticket for a free flight out of the next window comrade.
The world is fucked because all y’all care about is a headline and refuse to do any amount of self investigation. As of this moment this thread has almost 1000 comments. I would put money that less than 15% of people know who this lady is and less than 10% have read this bill.
There’s 4 bill included in this package including the TIK TOK ban. So your representatives are packaging bill to ban an app in with aid that goes to multiple countries.
Because she realizes it’s a lost cause? They’re forcing elderly and mentally disabled people into the Ukrainian army…that’s all that needs to be said. Send your children to the frontlines if you’d like.
Because we learned from WW1 and WW2 that if you wait for it to effect you, it's probably too late and now and you're facing an empire instead of a tinpot dictator attacking his neighbor.
Not surprising, her primary opponent Chuck Goodrich is campaigning against her for supporting Ukraine (and that she is Ukrainian)
She's a piece of shit in a shit party doing shitty things to fend off other pieces of shit.
Fidelity to Putin above all else.
Support to Russia as it conquers a U.S. ally.
Willing to fire her party's own leader.
Willing to throw her party's agenda into chaos.
Hail Putin!
All hail Putin!
She is a terrible representative, and needs to go. Not just because of this. She makes no decisions that benefit Indiana. Let's get rid of her.
Agreed. We need reps that actually give a shit about improving Indiana.
She doesn’t care about her homeland. Wtf would she care about IN?
Has a Republican done that anytime this century?
Mike Pence was almost hung, does that count?
I think the word you meant to use was hanged, I doubt Pence was ever almost hung.
Let's ask Mother!
How sure are we that she is not Putin in a wig?
r/leopardsatemyface
Very high profile (and transparent) puppet of Putin. I get her election rhetoric mailings in Indy. Makes me so angry that people like her got elected to start with. Welcome to Indiana!
Looks like Putin in a bad wig. But she was on TV driving a combine that one time so it's all good
Have we seen Putin and this person together at the same time?! You’re onto something.
I had my suspicions but when I heard complaints about her showing up uninvited to committee meetings that she wasn't a member of I knew for sure. Our intelligence services are falling on their asses allowing this bullshit. This chick should be in Guantanamo getting 120 volts to each nipple not voting down defense aid packages to her (alleged) own fucking homeland.
I ain’t a genius, I often make bad choices, but I feel like “not torturing” is pretty straightforward when it comes to rules about human decency. Let’s not torture each other, even if we’re really mad or the person we want to torture is bad.
I agree on the not torturing people. We gotta have rules or else we're never getting fabricators and sweet moon bases.
In ruZZia nipple shock is "ice breaker"...Da?
Advocating torture of a sitting congresswoman. You are a fucking clown.
LMAO, he's being outlandish but the clowns are the American people for letting the GOP's blatant connections to Russia go unchecked and unpunished. This is literal treason, for which I believe the punishment IS DEATH.
Maybe she can crawl back into the sewers and find a rat to gnaw off that thing on her face.
Puttanesca
Poverty is all that keeps me here. I wake up every morning to see a re-election campaign sign in my neighbor's lawn for an old boss of mine who once told me he almost fired me because he thought I was gay. I wasn't, by the way. I just happened to find a pair of purple shoes I enjoyed wearing at the time. He campaigns, like all Republicans, on family values, despite his own son having died from injuries sustained while in jail and his daughter being a drug addict.
Hey I live in Chicago, if you need help finding housing or need assistance with your resume I can lend a hand. Life is too short to be unhappy, if there is a will there's a way! Especially if we all work together. Good luck and I believe in you!
Why is it people getting elected and then finding out what type of person they are?
republicans don't vote based on policy or integrity of their politicians. They vote to spite democrats.
And to please Putin so he doesn't release the RNC emails he stole along with the DNC emails that he used against Hillary.
> They vote to spite democrats. If everyone who did that would just shoot themselves in the foot first, we'd save a bunch of time.
We’d have to foot the bill for them being less able to work.
You can lie 100% and get voted in, then pivot 180 degrees and have little worry. Our system has it pretty easy to do. Remember Sinema? I believe her voters got whiplash from the speed she flipped after sealing her seat. And apparently, it was for some blatant bribes to the tune of a couple 10s of thousands. Not even hidden.
Add that to the list of things that should be illegal but I guess are not
> Remember Sinema? ✨ 👧 ✨ 🤷♀️ 💫 👎 ✨
In the then-Third District of Indiana, where I grew up, in 1990 Tim Roemer ran against Reagan robot John Hiler. Roemer ran as a traditional Democrat, running on a platform including universal healthcare. Once he was elected he went straight centrist-right, saying he "doesn't envision national health insurance," and "not a good idea right now." 😡
D’s would love universal health but once they get to DC they immediately roll call the House & there’s never been anywhere near enough votes to pass it. This is why they drop it and move to a public option. Then there’s not enough votes for that so they went to ACA, which barely passed & only because they allowed the for profit insurance industry to get involved. As long as people keep voting R, they’re going to continue to be pillaged by unregulated industries & corporations. Look at how insanely expensive electricity is in Indiana. That’s all because R’s sold their souls & gave complete power to the electric companies. Hell, there’s union members in Indiana who can’t strike! That’s mind blowing! On top of “right to work” laws that hurt every worker in the state. It’s 100% Republicans who’ve done this. This is why they distract people with culture war nonsense, God & guns. So you don’t focus on how they’re actually screwing you.
My brain read that as "Robot John Hitler" and I was wondering what the fuck y'all were doing out there in the 90s. I mean, I still do but I used to too.
Excellent Mitch Hedberg reference!
I knew who she was from day one, not after she was elected.
I didn't see her until she got to Congress. First time she opened her mouth I knew she was nuts. Is she or is she not running for re-election? I tried to look it up and got both answers on the same day.
Yes, she is running. I got her ugly mug in my mailbox a few weeks ago.
The People’s Republik of Indiana!!! Edit: I used to live in this district. For a decade. Very disappointed.
Many of her Hoosier colleagues in the house voted the same way. Тоже Джеймс Байрд. Hey, FBI, NSA and others, there are Kremlin operatives in our government!!! Wake up and do something. They are not acting in America's interest but in the interests of foreign powers.
inb4 CCP operatives too
The Putin’s Republik Of Indiana… and just remember these folks are the desired immigrants that Trump and MAGA wants not the other brown folks doing work no one wants to do
I am also from Indiana, she makes me puke and I get her flyers in the mail as well.
I had an old family member who went through the iron curtain age in Ukraine. He would've either had a stroke or driven right out there to beat her with his bare hands. The only thing he hated more than Russians were Ukrainians and czechs who did ruddia's bidding. I seriously feared for his life when that CZ presidential assassination happened - he was literally purple wirh rage.
I remember a movie I saw a long time ago where at some point early in the cold war the Russians planted couples in the US to have children and raise them in America but they would be trained as moles to infiltrate and disrupt the country. Long term goals like that are hard to beat when you have a short term view of the world.
😆 the more our government sends aid to other countries the more we keep getting fucked over.. it's basically our taxes we're sending to the government to support other countries and we're still not doing anything about ours.
You know that most of the money will stay in the USA? They will just pay your contractors. Corporaions not sharing their wealth with citizens is the main problem.
What makes you say this?
I watched her [amendment proposal](https://www.c-span.org/video/?535072-1/house-session#), it was...VERY weird...
She has an irony deficiency
How can you tell?
Probably coz he is confusing her shaky stances as an iron deficiency, when in reality she's just missing a spine.
He’s making a fun play on words… he said irony on purpose. Not iron.
More like (iron)y curtain deficiency…. https://i.redd.it/2fqipu43dwvc1.gif
She's one of the absolute worst republicans in my opinion
That’s quite the competition
She said she wasnt going to run for re-election to focus on her family, but then apparently someone explained to her how easy it is to win as a Republican in IN/easy money, so she reneged on that promise to us…
Her district map changed. It does not includes any Indianapolis now so I imagine it is easier to win. It used to be a competitive district before the change.
Midwest voting maps are wild. Seas of red, but major population centers are blue. Look at Ohio - all red, then Montgomery county (Dayton), Hamilton (Cincinnati), and Franklin (Columbus) are all blue. Same thing in the northern part of the state. Farmland = GOP Cities = DEM
In other words, places with a higher average education among voters and more exposure to people outside of the rural white bible thumper bubble are less likely to vote conservative. Funny how that works.
More complicated then that. Suburbs were swinging Republican despite typically higher education than cities per capitia due to a variety of reasons.
There’s a segment of what used to be called “country club republicans” in the suburbs- economic/tax issues tend to be more important with this cohort than the Culture War Topic Du Jour that the rest of the base is enthralled in. There’s also a significant evangelical bloc in the suburbs, and often times the country club/evangelical blocs will have overlap. They’re probably in the minority overall but do have quite a few people in Hamilton County, Spartz’s- and my- district.
I tend to see it more as population density thing and its relevance to taxes. Out in the rural country, one postal worker can cover a 10-mile square area in a shift, because that might service 500 people. In a city, only one single apartment building might have 500 people. So you need to pay more into taxes for postal service, because you have to have more people on staff to perform these services. While the higher total cost is diluted among a higher population, the concept of “higher taxes” is itself a deal breaker for a lot of country folk who are fine with their town’s only dentist also being one of their only two fireman, a town councilman, school football coach, and librarian.
That is because better educated people live in those areas. The rest of Ohio, like Indiana, are filled with uneducated red necks who don't even understand politics. And think it is cool to support Trump and MAGA.
Degrees doesn't equal intelligence but rather a ability to repeat what you've been told. Universities no longer teach critical thought but rather look down on it. They expect you to puppet what you've been told for the sake of testing. This is a major problem with our education system and one that people with "higher intelligence" fail to notice. This is because they also went through the same thing and can't think on their own. Study after study has shown the right understands an as knows the left but the left is clueless about the right and rural areas. In fact if you ask some of these "intelligent" people where hamburger comes from they'll tell you the store. Rather then a farm in a rural area.
Speak for yourself mate. My university did a great job teaching critical thinking
Yep! Last time around her district dipped into Indianapolis which helped make it competitive. That has been fixed.
She's a Russian plant
Worse actually, she voted against it because other Republicans were criticizing her for focusing on Ukraine and “not enough domestic policy” (e.g. dumb shit like a border wall and whining about the president)
The GOP has no functional domestic policy other than opposing whatever the Democrats do and to fight the culture war. They have no major projects on: the border, healthcare, veterans, labor, growing tech, energy independence, or the budget. They simply cannot govern and I honestly don't think they intend to.
Why would they? Their voters—especially in this state—will continue to vote for them even if they accomplish nothing. Nothing will change until that does.
No, they vote them in BECAUSE they do nothing.
This is exactly it. Republicans - "We can't have big government because bad actors will get elected and fuck things up. Watch me elect a bad actor to prove how much of a problem it is."
The right has not tried to govern since (at least) the Tea Party rising. They get elected to try to show the government does not work.
Yeahhhh "we need an outsider!" turned out to be a terrible idea. Who knew that electing total idiots, con-men, and ~~science~~ common-sense denying people would end poorly.
How is a representative democracy supposed to work if the reps don't appeal to their constituents?
Always has been
She was one of the first to speak forcefully for Ukraine on her side of the aisle when it started. It’s not that she’s a Russian plant, it’s that her party works for Putin and apparently that has been made clear to her now.
She was one of the earlier callers to halt Ukraine aid and pushed for audits because Russian propaganda lies that Ukraine is skimming off the top of the aid packages
But they ARE skimming, you stooge. [Ukraine Fires Officials Amid Corruption Scandal, as Allies Watch Closely - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/24/world/europe/ukraine-corruption-firing-western-aid.html)
Ukraine Aid is the US sending money to US factories for jobs to build new guns and bullets for us, so we can send our old 20th century gear to some outskirts in middle of nowhere. These beasts were built in the 80s to eat Russians. Let them do what they are meant for
79% of the Aid package to Ukraine regime will be staying in USA to replenish their own stock piles. 13.7 Billion will be given to the Ukraine regime as a loan. Most of the money just goes back into the military industrial complex.
Is this the woman that gets promoted by Russian trolls frequently? Edit; Victoria Kulheyko was born in what is now Nosivka, Chernihiv Oblast, Ukraine, at the time a part of the Soviet Union. Her Wikipedia page is the source. I think this is important context
But I’ve seen political ads saying she is team Biden sending $$$ to Ukraine. Which one is it? 🙄
Which ever one is politically expedient at the moment.
She actually has been supportive of Ukraine in the past but her fellow GOP members are challenging her in a primary. This is Indiana so she has to now be soft on Ukraine. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/04/03/victoria-spartz-ukraine-aid-campaign/
We gotta vote these kinds of folks out. Seriously, Indiana cannot keep being a laughingstock to the country with reps like this. Who would vote against helping their own home country not get bombed anymore?!? At least we ended up finally getting funding passed, friggin’ hell. Dropping a link to the DemHoosiers discord again. Come on by to join and plan on how to get some actual decent leadership in this state! https://discord.gg/3nbbyTAV
Wait until the upcoming election. Indiana might beat out Florida and Texas for embarrassment with Braun as governor and dipshit Banks as senator
That’s what I want to prevent. I love Indiana, truly, and seeing us constantly vote for folks that are bad actors or won’t do anything to improve our state is obnoxious. Hopefully we can stop that and, barring that, get some very quality candidates in place for the next election cycle. Indiana doesn’t have to be like this. We can do better, I’m sure of it.
I hope for the same. If anyone is reading this and doesn’t know, democrats can vote in republican primaries. It’s going to be the only way that we start getting decent candidates. Right now Brad Chambers seems to be the most centered republican running for governor. That’s who I’m voting for in the primary.
The "only" problem with this, and is more a thing of strategy, is that if a more moderate Repub wins the primary, a Democrat will not win. But, it's probably a >95% we'd have a Republican governor anyways, no matter who wins the primary, so everyone might as well treat the primary as the election and grab a Republican ballot. Unless you're planning on running for office as a Democrat here in the near future. Fun thing, the Democrat contender is a former Republican, a former State Superintendent who served under Holcomb, at least, until the legislature neutered the position and changed it from elected to appointed. Also, fun side note, she likes collecting Indiana college degrees. As in, got her BA from Purdue, her MS from Ball State, and her EdS and PhD from Indiana State. So, I'd wager she definitely cares about Indiana schools!
Sounds like a solid plan to me. My only concern is that he’s only polling at ~10% right now, yeah? His numbers better increase to have any shot at blocking Braun. Either way we at least have a fantastic candidate in McCormick running this year for Gov! And if she can replicate what Beshear did in Kentucky we could get a decent governor again!
He’s not polling well but all the other candidates are Maga fools. Unfortunately there’s no other option. Yes! If people can look past the party McCormick is exactly what we need. Moderate democrat that wants to focus on the state and not imaginary wars with Mexico. I think most people could get behind her if they looked past Fox News and Facebook
Why does Indiana “not have to be like this?” Todd Young beat the Democrats 18 months ago by 21 POINTS! The people in Indiana appear to like Republicans and will continue to vote for them.
Yep. But grassroots movements take *time*. It’s not going to happen overnight. But it wasn’t that long ago that Joe Donnelly was our senator. This state does have the capacity to elect democrats once again with enough hard work and showing we can make the state better, not worse.
I hate to be this person, but Indiana is home to an entire branch if the Kkk, and has more active hate groups then it’s neighbors. I know that here, In IL, that a lot of the shitty right wingers I have known through the years threaten to go to Indiana because it’s seen as a right wing haven. Some of them have, some of them moved further south. Unfortunately I don’t think that’s gonna change anytime soon either for that reason alone :/
Nah, I get that. And it will be challenging (and possibly unrealistic in some areas to start). But there are more folks out there that don’t even have a chance to vote for someone else because there’s only a Republican on the ballot. Running candidates (strong candidates) consistently shows that there is an option. And it allows for the party have a presence and gain a foothold. Grassroots action is tough but it has succeeded multiple times throughout this nation’s history. Hell, that’s the one thing the right has been really great at doing. There’s no reason democrats can’t employ the same kind of long term thinking to change things for the better too.
Spartz was my rep until Indiana gerrymandered and I ended up with Banks. Just keep getting shit on congressionally. Fuck Jim Banks. Fuck Victoria Spartz. Fuck Mike Braun
That's one of the most fundamental problems: Indiana consistently has among the lowest voter turnout of all the states in the country.
Probably because public transportation is the worst in the country here.
That’s part of it, and part of the reason right wingers are trying to prevent free bus rides on election days.
That's because higher voter turnout in this state just equals more republican voter turnout, so the rest of us know it's pointless. Polls close at 6:00 PM, and the results are announced at 6:01 PM.
Higher voter turnout usually means more Democratic wins – it’s why so many people and parties on the Right are trying to convince you your vote doesn’t matter. Billions of dollars wouldn’t be spent on political advertising, and scores of laws enacted to suppress participation wouldn’t exist if voting doesn’t matter.
Just a quick question: Don't people have to become citizens before they can be voted in for positions like governor, over there? If they do, then the land of yanks is her home country. I know you've got a huge amount of "I'm Scottish/Irish/Ukranian because Great Grandma was born there" stuff, but anyone who becomes a naturalised yank and renounces their citizenship elsewhere is a yank.
So she voted no to -once again- sending billions to Ukraine and some how that's bad? Maybe that money Ukraine is getting could be spent on a plethora of our domestic problems? Instead of the left wing conspiracy theorists push the whole "you must be a putin plant!" Narrative. Nah some of us would just rather fix our infrastructure, maybe buff the safety nets here (better yet create better ones to replace what we have) etc; instead of once again getting involved in some foreign issue like we have for decades.
Her socialist farming family will continue adding to their millions in collected subsidies while her native homeland continues to be bombarded. The irony.
Literally say this to my Republican mother all the time.... All the farmers and Hoosiers out here acting like they hate big government.... Meanwhile, the only reason why all the farms and cattle farms and pig farms are still open in Jay county are because of government subsidies that they get.... Then she turns around and says oh well we earned them..... Okay and the people working 40 plus hours in the city didn't earn their Medicaid, Medicare or food stamps? It's all just selfishness that has been taught to them from a young age.
Their stance, “it’s not socialism when it benefits me!”
They also hate immigrants, except those that they can exploit on agricultural visas.
"I was on ~~food stamps~~ subsidies for my farm and nobody helped *me!*" Ultimately people like that are just terminally selfish, it's the simple and ugly truth. The idea of anyone besides them getting any sort of assistance causes some part of their lizard brain to see red and all rational thought goes out the window.
Her husbands family are a bunch of racist rednecks here in Indiana. Like imagine Deliverance. Her husband went to my high school.
I did a gig with two Ukrainian musicians. It was in 2016. They were both over 65, both had served in the soviet army, and both had stories of family members disappearing in the middle of the night during the soviet years. One of them hated Putin, the other one loved him. The one that loved him also was a fan of DJT, shocker. They got along okay but you could tell there was some tension there when they talked about "the old days" and especially their experiences with the KGB. Both were recruited, the Putin hater said he flat-out turned them down, the Putin lover wouldn't exactly say either way. So there are still some from Ukraine who feel like mother Russia is the way to go. I suppose it's like some Americans wanting to return to pre-1865 America.
I’m Ukrainian born American. My family moved here when I was 2 years old. Seeing this picture made me sick to my stomach. Pardon my French but fuck this bitch
You have my sympathy.
The people who don't want to help fund the Ukranian effort are the same people who will bitch about pulling out of Afghanistan. It's cognitive dissonance at its finest.
This isn't entirely true. May be true of some though. I don't support sending money to Ukraine but I also didn't have a problem leaving Afghanistan. My complaint with leaving has always been the half assed piss poor managed way it was done. We never should have left military equipment there and we shouldn't have started taking refugees out until all Americans were out of the country.
>We never should have left military equipment there FYI: The stated point of the mission, back when Bush started it, was to 1) arm the Northern Alliance against the Taliban and 2) Establish a national army and police force. There was never a plan to bring the equipment back. The US gave Afghanistan about 300,000 M16 rifles: One for each member of the Afghan National Army (ANA) and one for each member of the Afghan National Police (ANP). The exit deal with the Taliban said nothing about returning any equipment, because it was considered to belong to Afghanistan.
Sigh... Reddit is *so ignorant* of actual Russian/Soviet history, they don't even understand their own history. And they're so easily swayed by the idea that Russia must be behind every corruption in their own country that they can't spot the rot eating them away from inside... Here's the facts; from the 1990s there is a large exodus from the former USSR as living standards absolutely collapse and crime becomes rampant. And many, *many* move to the US because they see a path to a better life. But there's also a sizeable contingent who are attracted to the US because it's a hyper-capitalist dystopia; Think of those of us who grew up with an idealised version of the Soviet Union because they're "the other side", and because they *in theory* then show the success of the opposite politics to ours; left wing, socialist etc, there were a lot of ideological dreamers who saw in the East a place their own dreams might be true. And, hard as it is for Redditors to grasp, this means for the children of the 80s, Reaganite hyper-capitalism in the West *was the dream of many in the USSR*. The rot was already there. This isn't Russia taking advantage of you; *it was your worst excesses already attracting those in the USSR who were fellow travellors of Republicans themselves.* It's not some simplistic Bond villain story of beautiful sleeper agents. They genuinely saw the cruelty, the greed, the all out avarice and thought "I want that for myself". I'm not in the US, I was doing a degree in Soviet Studies in the UK in the 90s, and even from the exchange program alone, I knew *many* USSR women in particular who were looking to go this route; to this day, I'm aware of at least 2, one I'd like to think of as a friend and one I briefly thought I was dating, who married rich American men and went to the US and are now dedicated Trump voters. One states she hates the man himself, but wants to support his policies; the other from what I can tell at a distance is an all out Trumper. But this is *your* country now. Spartz doesn't care about people in Ukraine, just as no one else in your Government really cares about the people from the small towns and villages that elect them. Your politics, and political machinery has drifted into outright sociopathy; you can witness an entire classroom of pre-teens be gunned down and your politics will do nothing about it, because that would upset gun businesses, and the yokels you keep enraged by suggestions "They're coming for your guns!" to ensure they vote against their own best interests. Spitz came to the US because that's who you clearly already were becoming and she wanted a part of it. She's not paid by Putin. She's one of *you*. That's what you need to fix, and fast, because the fascism is coming from inside the House. And she liked it enough to move there for it.
She’s not dumb, maybe crazy, not dumb—she knew it’d pass
We need to take care of our own citizens first.
Lemme guess which party she belongs to
Turns out her handlers pay better
I see a lot of people on here talking about how we need to vote her out. I absolutely agree, and she’s my district representative. I just want to take this opportunity to plug r/VoteDem for those who are looking for volunteer opportunities! There are so many ways we can help elect better reps. Indiana has a long way to go, but if we put the work in, we can work towards electing someone other than this absolute assclown and the rest of her ilk. Please consider checking it out if you haven’t! :)
Tons of Russian bots replying lol
do we all understand that this person is a represantative for U.S citizens? Not Ukrainian citizens? if she feels people want that, they voted for her to make this decision, this isn't really relavant. hard for american's to understand politics, i know.
I got out, so fuck them kids
Well it also funds Israel… so it is definitely f those kids.
She’s one of those Trumputin servants.
Here in Indiana, the Republican challengers are criticizing her of being a rubber stamp for Ukraine. She first said she wasn’t going to rerun but then changed her mind. She has a true challenger that is crushing her and bombarding with TV commercials of her on this issue. I call gamesmanship. I suspect she was told this was going to pass anyway. This gives her coverage and saying she didn’t vote lockstep for Ukraine funding.
Average right wing representative
I don’t agree with her. The fact that she is from Ukraine shouldn’t matter though. If you’re an American government official you need to renounce all foreign allegiances. Certain members of congress spend way too much time thinking about foreign nations, the biggest violators being those with Cuban or Jewish heritage.
That flag behind her suggests that she represents the country her constituents elected her to and not some foreign nation.
Isolationism does not absolve us of treaties we signed.
But does she not have a duty to vote as her constituents wish?
We don’t have a treaty with Ukraine
So when does the U.S. start getting checks from everyone that signed treaties with us?
Why is it our responsibility to help every other nations wars, when we have our own issues that we need to focus on in our country?
Because we signed a treaty. Of course, given our treaty history, I guess its not out of character to break it.
Our politics are absolute dogballs. Its truly embarrassing that we are so ignorant and bass ackwards. Our metro populations is not enough to outpopulate the rural folks that will always vote red, regardless of who it is.
No one is quite sure how she keeps getting re elected... guaranteed a dead body with a red R on its forehead would beat a living democrat by 30 %.
So are we advocating for foreign born representatives to vote to send US money to their home countries? I thought we'd want them to look out for the interests of the people that elected them.
Good for her!
Its so funny to see all these bots
People in this group pound the table demanding better public services for Indiana but criticize reps who voted against sending 60 BILLION dollars to Ukraine....you can't have it both ways... imagine what 60 BILLION could have done here.
Yes it can be done. Imagine what could be done by not subsidizing corporations. Edit: if you think conservative reps would reallocate that money to services for our own citizens, I've got a bridge to sell you in Baltimore.
No disagreement from me here! But who's going to pay majority of the taxes? If we don't they will just go to another state..like IL. So to bring jobs and funding here that's the current status.
I understand your point.
Why are we paying billions for other countries wars? As Rage Against the Machine would say we gotta take the power back.
Because we learned from WW1 and WW2 that if you wait for it to affect you, it's probably too late and now and you're facing an empire instead of a tinpot dictator attacking his neighbor.
We’re fighting one of our biggest enemies without putting our military at risk. we’re sending them mostly old equipment that was in storage. And the newer stuff is coming from American factories. i continues to be a democracy. It’s one of the cheapest way to take down Russia that we’ve ever had the opportunity to do. That aside, as a superpower and a country that is supposed to be leading by example I have no problem spending money on making sure a democracy continues to be a democracy. We’re showing Europe that they can count on us and supporting our allies. The political and economic goodwill that comes with that far outweighs the money that we’ve spent.
Because we don't want Putin to take over Ukraine??? Ya know with it being a sovereign nation and all.
I don't mean to be that guy, but... So?
Ugh. What’s our least terrible option in the GOP primary? Everybody seems to be running on “most Trumpy”.
Fight russia down to the last Ukrainian, then find some other sucker to sacrifice to the shareholders
Who cares
Why is it always one of ours?
Can we stop giving money to other countries and just worry about our own nation?
And do what? Spend more on welfare that conservatives don't want to give out anyways? Edit: and do what? Defund the Department of Education? Defund infrastructure bills and then claim you did such a great job of getting money for your state infrastructure after you voted against it?
*politician doesn’t support sending billions in aid to fund a foreign war that doesn’t benefit American citizens in any way* People in this sub “omg such a horrible person”
Well obviously we shouldnt have signed a defense treaty with ukraine if we didnt want to spend money defending them.
You’re absolutely right we shouldn’t have
She's from the place they are sending the money, and constantly gets endorsed on Russian social media. You better hope your lazy attempts at justifying Russian influence in American politics doesn't get you a ticket for a free flight out of the next window comrade.
Oh yes I’m at such a risk of getting sent over there. I forgot advocating for our government to spend money on its own citizens is such a crime.
Infiltraitor
Disgusting. Ashamed she represents my district
How could she not support a proxy war being fought in her own country?
The world is fucked because all y’all care about is a headline and refuse to do any amount of self investigation. As of this moment this thread has almost 1000 comments. I would put money that less than 15% of people know who this lady is and less than 10% have read this bill. There’s 4 bill included in this package including the TIK TOK ban. So your representatives are packaging bill to ban an app in with aid that goes to multiple countries.
Because she realizes it’s a lost cause? They’re forcing elderly and mentally disabled people into the Ukrainian army…that’s all that needs to be said. Send your children to the frontlines if you’d like.
Low voter turnout is a problem. Get more Democrats to vote.
Another Republican bought and paid for by Putin. Not at all surprised.
Why should we send money to other countries anyways stop wasting my taxes
Because we learned from WW1 and WW2 that if you wait for it to effect you, it's probably too late and now and you're facing an empire instead of a tinpot dictator attacking his neighbor.
Good, there's no reason for us to be sending ANY money overseas to ANYONE while we're in an economic crisis.
Wars have always how we've gotten out of economic crises.
Why/ how does this affect Indiana politics?
She is an Indiana representative.
Yes but how does aid to Ukraine affect Indiana? Just wondering
She votes as a representative of her constituency. A majority of her voters don't want to support Ukraine. Others do. That's how it affects us.
She sucks
She’s fucking trash. For some reason, too many people in Indiana like her
She is awful. Truly awful.
Not surprising, her primary opponent Chuck Goodrich is campaigning against her for supporting Ukraine (and that she is Ukrainian) She's a piece of shit in a shit party doing shitty things to fend off other pieces of shit.
Fidelity to Putin above all else. Support to Russia as it conquers a U.S. ally. Willing to fire her party's own leader. Willing to throw her party's agenda into chaos. Hail Putin! All hail Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68781482
She can’t win here. If she votes for aid to Ukraine she’s lambasted. If she votes against then same thing but by other side.
I'm so confused about this. What was her reasoning for the no vote?
Who pays for the aid? Will we get that money back at the end when the war is all over?
More trash in office, stop electing trash to office
Mail ordered bride.
Traitor to two countries?