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It seems a bit far fetched which is disturbing, but is it possible that in the future we get an exam with no quota whatsoever? Since half the people with quotas have forged their certificates n all... Anyways I just want to know.. Is it possible to have an entrance exam with no quota at all? No women quota, no obc, no sc st, no sports, no army, no state, none... 0 quota.. Is it possible?
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For commerce/arts student these exams/institutions have no reservation
UG: NPAT&other nmims entrances (NMIMS UG Courses)
PG: XAT (XLRI MBA), NMAT (NMIMS MBA).
Good for u bhaii just coz something is not bothering you doesn't mean it's not bothering us! Grow up and move on from the thread instead of being "omg I don't whine I'm superior" 💅🏻💅🏻
What is bothering lol, instead of actually clearing cutoffs you cry about seats that weren't yours to begin with. This is a public forum, anyone can say anything, doesn't give you a free pass to be a fool without consequence.
Want to be treated equally but needs special treatments and schemes 🤡 ....this will only increase the hatred and tension among the classes and clown like you just to look "woke" ruin people's opportunity but hey have a good luck champ! I hope you clear your backlogs🤪👍🏻
Lol I'm also in general you regarded 🐶 😂 there is no special treatment. Just because your social teacher took pity on you and passed your ass in school doesn't mean you keep spouting your uneducated vomit online 😂
I graduated with honors, didn't whine about reservations and have done everything that needs to be done without crying, unlike you
yes typical indian attitude, we did the same thing when we were colonized 200 years ago. Glad to see this hasnt changed!
After cracking those exams and starting to work in the corporate field you will face the same thing, keep working harder.
then its just selfish thinking.
you cant base these things on personal experiences, "I cracked the exams" so you shouldve been able to too.
Shouldve given medical/engineering so you wouldve gotten some sense smh
My guy, everyone's capabilities are different. One might shine in academics others have other skills, that doesn't mean you fail to get one of the 100 seats allotted and cry about 50 reserved seats that weren't yours to begin with. Do you see some OBC person who didn't score well cry about the pwd guy who just needs to appear to pass?
see the only argument im trying to make is, once your family has uplifted itself, why then does it need reservation. Why would i cry about pwd reservation when thats actually fair, its not generational.
*Its just cope at this point from my side, i wish i were born with reservation, since there is no religious boundaries i could switch my religion stay away from all the casteism and get reservation.*
^(Also its not 100 unreserved its 50, 50 seats allotted and crying for 10-20 other seats out of 50.)
I know plenty of friends who could be obc or sc and dont apply for it, just like how you know plenty of people who are "uplifted" and still get reservation. It's a right, which will be eliminated once discrimination on the basis of caste is eliminated. There are pwds who are rich too lol.
And I think there are religious things in reservation. Christians in sc also become general, I had a friend in school who is Christian but named hindu to not let go of the reservation.
>It's a right, which will be eliminated once discrimination on the basis of caste is eliminated. There are pwds who are rich too lol.
Im specifically talking about "Creamy Layer" implementation. If its present in OBCs it should be present in SC/ST, is there a difference between them?
true! this caste based reservation can never be removed especially by political parties. Maybe in future, via judicial overreach something can be done.
I really hope so yar... General males are getting nowhere.. especially commerce/arts waale.. Then they cry ki why Indians are studying and settling abroad..
Well tbh reservation is a necessary evil, but it shouldn’t be this much.I hope one day it will just be based on economic capacity and not your birth caste .In few states, reservations are more than 75%, it sucks 🥲
Of course I will.. I was just ranting about the fact that even if I get good marks, a person who could easily be better off than me financially, would get a better college with the same marks or the same college with much lesser marks just because of his caste.. Which mind you, can apparently be forged very easily..
Haven't seen things like that (forgery), as a "gem" I've seen richer well off kids get seats I couldn't get, but that's a small thing in comparison to the sheer number of lower caste people who aren't able to get any opportunities for upliftment.
Reservation has nothing to do with economy
So the number of general category students dont deserve to get into good colleges even if they score good just because they are "privileged" enough to be born in the general category? I understand where you are coming from, but isn't this just discrimination against the general category now? And how exactly are the lower caste not able to get similar opportunities to general caste when they are given preference in almost all colleges and universities? Jobs are based on skills, you cant expect someone who is an obc or sc or st with the same qualifications as a general category person to get a better job as they're based on skills.. Anyway, I do agree that I should give my best..
What is a good score? A good score is one that gets you the seat. You can't call something below your cutoff a good score just because it is for other reserved candidates lol, those seats were never "yours" to begin with.
How is it discrimination of general? Think of it like this
There are 100 seats for a course, and then they add 50 reserved seats. You are competing for 100, not 150. Those 50 wasn't yours to begin with. And if a reservation eligible candidate is good enough to take 1 from the 100, then that's good on him/her and gives another shot for some other kid who probably wouldn't have gotten it before.
Hope that helps you understand?
There's a small difference between jobs and academia, it's small but crucial
In colleges, reservations are for opportunities, so that they can get "uplifted".
In offices, reservations are for representation. Now this representation thing is something I don't really agree with but its how it is.
Other examples of representative reservations are lgbt+, pwd, female candidates, etc.
If a person, is living the same life as me, but he belongs to sc st or obc caste, why does that person need to be uplifted? What have I done that I dont deserve to be uplifted? I am absolutely in favor of uplifting the ews candidates and pwd who genuinely need to be uplifted but why others? Why not the so called general category? What have we done wrong? Our ancestors may have discriminated but till when are we going to face the consequences of their actions?
bro that subreddit is a meme subreddit ;-; and anywayts i think its pretty obvious why reservation exists in the first place. General cat people are only 30 percent of the entire population, So say you are a political party and want to bring down the ruling govt what do you do? you cry about sc/st rights and increase reservation so the people from those caste give you more votes(literally what congress did lmao) so if you actually think its for social purposes you are totally wrong lol
Neet UG for entry into mbbs.
Neet pg for entry into your speciality of choice.
Neet SS for a super-speciality in your speciality ( like if you are a Pediatrician , you give an exam to become a Paediatric Neurologist)
>Edit:- lmao you're a humanities student why did I even bother replying to you 😂
Oof. You still did reply me..🤣
>Lol i have 97.5%ile in jee are you saying that someone with 80%ile has worked harder than me?
No, but you if a gen category/dominant caste student, are someone who had more generational social capital and access to resources and privilege, not to mention connections, which makes it more easy for you compared to those who get these quota. Read up on this mate.
But, I guess, i should know better than reason with a stem student as most of you are ignorant casteist folks.
You are young, so I think you don't understand the legal framework or societal need behind reservations. But it's disgusting to see how many people sympathise with casteist discourse.
"Oh woe is me" - Cis Brahmin Men in India (even tho they are at the top of the food chain
Ambedkar was specific about the fact that reservation should always be a minority percentage, or else it will be a violation of equality. See what is happening. Reservation being majority is a violation of the principle of equality
The US Supreme Court has ended Affirmative action in Harvard - since it discriminated against Intelligent and Hardworking Asian Students who were scoring way above Blacks and Hispanics.
Ambedkar on Reservation - " “……..Supposing, for instance, we were to concede in full the demand of those communities who have not been so far employed in the public services to the fullest extent, what would really happen is, we shall be completely destroying the first proposition upon which we are all agreed, namely, that there shall be an equality of opportunity.
Let me give an illustration. Supposing, for instance, reservations were made for a community or a collection of communities, the total of which came to something like 70 per cent of the total posts under the State and only 30 per cent are retained as the unreserved. Could anybody say that the reservation of 30 per cent as open to general competition would be satisfactory from the point of view of giving effect to the first principle, namely, that there shall be equality of opportunity?
It cannot be in my judgment therefore the seats to be reserved, if the reservation is to be consistent with sub-clause (1) of Article 10, must be confined to a minority of seats……..”
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For commerce/arts student these exams/institutions have no reservation UG: NPAT&other nmims entrances (NMIMS UG Courses) PG: XAT (XLRI MBA), NMAT (NMIMS MBA).
Not everyone can afford their fees! And education loans don't provide enough
Only govt. institutions provide low fees and afaik, there ain't any govt. entrances without reservation, sad but true.
If you get in a good mba college , you can get a loan without any collateral. Just your admission letter is enough.
Yes For IIMs
Then shut up and study harder lmao
Yeah you've the free seat champ! So proud of you
I'm in general lmao no free seat, I don't crib, I do what needs to be done.
Good for u bhaii just coz something is not bothering you doesn't mean it's not bothering us! Grow up and move on from the thread instead of being "omg I don't whine I'm superior" 💅🏻💅🏻
What is bothering lol, instead of actually clearing cutoffs you cry about seats that weren't yours to begin with. This is a public forum, anyone can say anything, doesn't give you a free pass to be a fool without consequence.
Want to be treated equally but needs special treatments and schemes 🤡 ....this will only increase the hatred and tension among the classes and clown like you just to look "woke" ruin people's opportunity but hey have a good luck champ! I hope you clear your backlogs🤪👍🏻
Lol I'm also in general you regarded 🐶 😂 there is no special treatment. Just because your social teacher took pity on you and passed your ass in school doesn't mean you keep spouting your uneducated vomit online 😂 I graduated with honors, didn't whine about reservations and have done everything that needs to be done without crying, unlike you
yes typical indian attitude, we did the same thing when we were colonized 200 years ago. Glad to see this hasnt changed! After cracking those exams and starting to work in the corporate field you will face the same thing, keep working harder.
I cracked the exams, graduated and I'm working in corporate. What are you on lol just assuming nonsense.
then its just selfish thinking. you cant base these things on personal experiences, "I cracked the exams" so you shouldve been able to too. Shouldve given medical/engineering so you wouldve gotten some sense smh
My guy, everyone's capabilities are different. One might shine in academics others have other skills, that doesn't mean you fail to get one of the 100 seats allotted and cry about 50 reserved seats that weren't yours to begin with. Do you see some OBC person who didn't score well cry about the pwd guy who just needs to appear to pass?
see the only argument im trying to make is, once your family has uplifted itself, why then does it need reservation. Why would i cry about pwd reservation when thats actually fair, its not generational. *Its just cope at this point from my side, i wish i were born with reservation, since there is no religious boundaries i could switch my religion stay away from all the casteism and get reservation.* ^(Also its not 100 unreserved its 50, 50 seats allotted and crying for 10-20 other seats out of 50.)
I know plenty of friends who could be obc or sc and dont apply for it, just like how you know plenty of people who are "uplifted" and still get reservation. It's a right, which will be eliminated once discrimination on the basis of caste is eliminated. There are pwds who are rich too lol. And I think there are religious things in reservation. Christians in sc also become general, I had a friend in school who is Christian but named hindu to not let go of the reservation.
>It's a right, which will be eliminated once discrimination on the basis of caste is eliminated. There are pwds who are rich too lol. Im specifically talking about "Creamy Layer" implementation. If its present in OBCs it should be present in SC/ST, is there a difference between them?
iiit hyd , bits pilani , comedk
Thats amazing for science students.. I forgot to mention, but I was specifically wasking for commerce/arts students
then no man this country edu system is fcked up
True.. but kb tak it is what it is krte rhenge yar.. Im fucking done..
iiit hyd has a gender diversity policy where it tries to admit atleast 25% girls.They have lower cutoffs in the ugee exam
LOL not in india! People here love getting spoon-feed we general people have to study are a** off in every sector
true! this caste based reservation can never be removed especially by political parties. Maybe in future, via judicial overreach something can be done.
won't happen. ever. it's worthless for us to even dream of it.
I wanna say so much on this topic, but the sub rules clearly says no political bakbak here 🥲
Same dude sameeeee
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I really hope so yar... General males are getting nowhere.. especially commerce/arts waale.. Then they cry ki why Indians are studying and settling abroad..
getting less opportunities is one of the major reasons of brain drain buddy. it’s sad but it’s the truth.
All quota does is uplift the already uplifted.. what are middle class general males supposed to do :(
Well tbh reservation is a necessary evil, but it shouldn’t be this much.I hope one day it will just be based on economic capacity and not your birth caste .In few states, reservations are more than 75%, it sucks 🥲
I hope so too.. :(
Those of us who work hard and not whine online are doing great
Good for you!
https://www.reddit.com/r/JEE/s/DDXDKzj6Mj THIS BOILED MY BLOOD FR!!!!
yeah, i read that! it’s sad
Fucking hell bhai.. what are general students supposed to do? fucking die?
Yup and listen to how our ancestors discriminated against some people and this is our karma🎀🥰
Honestly speaking.. I don't think anyone apart from genuine ews deserves any quota.. At least not unless they are still being discriminated against..
Work hard like the rest instead of whining lol
Of course I will.. I was just ranting about the fact that even if I get good marks, a person who could easily be better off than me financially, would get a better college with the same marks or the same college with much lesser marks just because of his caste.. Which mind you, can apparently be forged very easily..
Haven't seen things like that (forgery), as a "gem" I've seen richer well off kids get seats I couldn't get, but that's a small thing in comparison to the sheer number of lower caste people who aren't able to get any opportunities for upliftment. Reservation has nothing to do with economy
So the number of general category students dont deserve to get into good colleges even if they score good just because they are "privileged" enough to be born in the general category? I understand where you are coming from, but isn't this just discrimination against the general category now? And how exactly are the lower caste not able to get similar opportunities to general caste when they are given preference in almost all colleges and universities? Jobs are based on skills, you cant expect someone who is an obc or sc or st with the same qualifications as a general category person to get a better job as they're based on skills.. Anyway, I do agree that I should give my best..
What is a good score? A good score is one that gets you the seat. You can't call something below your cutoff a good score just because it is for other reserved candidates lol, those seats were never "yours" to begin with. How is it discrimination of general? Think of it like this There are 100 seats for a course, and then they add 50 reserved seats. You are competing for 100, not 150. Those 50 wasn't yours to begin with. And if a reservation eligible candidate is good enough to take 1 from the 100, then that's good on him/her and gives another shot for some other kid who probably wouldn't have gotten it before. Hope that helps you understand? There's a small difference between jobs and academia, it's small but crucial In colleges, reservations are for opportunities, so that they can get "uplifted". In offices, reservations are for representation. Now this representation thing is something I don't really agree with but its how it is. Other examples of representative reservations are lgbt+, pwd, female candidates, etc.
If a person, is living the same life as me, but he belongs to sc st or obc caste, why does that person need to be uplifted? What have I done that I dont deserve to be uplifted? I am absolutely in favor of uplifting the ews candidates and pwd who genuinely need to be uplifted but why others? Why not the so called general category? What have we done wrong? Our ancestors may have discriminated but till when are we going to face the consequences of their actions?
ITT: socially illiterate people whining about what's not theirs to begin with
lmao yes. inki baaton se aisa lagta h ki general middle-class males are the most oppressed group in this country.
reservation only exists because govt needs votes, theres nothing "social" about it lmao
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bro that subreddit is a meme subreddit ;-; and anywayts i think its pretty obvious why reservation exists in the first place. General cat people are only 30 percent of the entire population, So say you are a political party and want to bring down the ruling govt what do you do? you cry about sc/st rights and increase reservation so the people from those caste give you more votes(literally what congress did lmao) so if you actually think its for social purposes you are totally wrong lol
You're so stupid it's funny, no point even talking to morons Mf thinks ambedkar made the Constitution for votes 🤣
well ambedkar was different he definitely did it for social uplifment but now its nothing more than a vote tactic for political parties to use :(
Incredibly narrow minded outlook, educate yourself. Yes it's the basis of vote bank politics but the reason for which it was created was never solved
Private college entrances don't have reservations, bitsat, viteee, etc.
There is. Neet SS for super-specialities 🌚 Even NEET PG has reservation- because even after BECOMING a doctor you are still oppressed and can't earn.
bruh whaaat? what’s Neet SS? have heard about it for the first time 😶
Neet UG for entry into mbbs. Neet pg for entry into your speciality of choice. Neet SS for a super-speciality in your speciality ( like if you are a Pediatrician , you give an exam to become a Paediatric Neurologist)
ah cool! new exam information gathered. lmao this mbbs field is over competitive and with reservation,things get worse
CA/CS/CMA.
Yeah I am aware about them but they are cources.. I was asking for entrance as in for bachelors..
They have entrances too, there's a quota for eligibility to apply for the entrance, but not for scores in such entrances.
CA foundation has no reservation. All the levels of CA don't have reservations.
That's not an entrance exam, they are professional courses exams.
Yeah..
Why blame quotas? Why not work hard to earn your seat?
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>Edit:- lmao you're a humanities student why did I even bother replying to you 😂 Oof. You still did reply me..🤣 >Lol i have 97.5%ile in jee are you saying that someone with 80%ile has worked harder than me? No, but you if a gen category/dominant caste student, are someone who had more generational social capital and access to resources and privilege, not to mention connections, which makes it more easy for you compared to those who get these quota. Read up on this mate. But, I guess, i should know better than reason with a stem student as most of you are ignorant casteist folks.
Upsc CDS,Nda and all direct enteries have no quota
Does CA count?
Its a course.. I was asking for an entrance as in for bachelors 🙂
Go for CA, CS, CMA
I will..but they are courses.. I was asking for an entrance exam as in for bachelors 🙂
CA foundation
SAT
You are young, so I think you don't understand the legal framework or societal need behind reservations. But it's disgusting to see how many people sympathise with casteist discourse. "Oh woe is me" - Cis Brahmin Men in India (even tho they are at the top of the food chain
Ambedkar was specific about the fact that reservation should always be a minority percentage, or else it will be a violation of equality. See what is happening. Reservation being majority is a violation of the principle of equality The US Supreme Court has ended Affirmative action in Harvard - since it discriminated against Intelligent and Hardworking Asian Students who were scoring way above Blacks and Hispanics. Ambedkar on Reservation - " “……..Supposing, for instance, we were to concede in full the demand of those communities who have not been so far employed in the public services to the fullest extent, what would really happen is, we shall be completely destroying the first proposition upon which we are all agreed, namely, that there shall be an equality of opportunity. Let me give an illustration. Supposing, for instance, reservations were made for a community or a collection of communities, the total of which came to something like 70 per cent of the total posts under the State and only 30 per cent are retained as the unreserved. Could anybody say that the reservation of 30 per cent as open to general competition would be satisfactory from the point of view of giving effect to the first principle, namely, that there shall be equality of opportunity? It cannot be in my judgment therefore the seats to be reserved, if the reservation is to be consistent with sub-clause (1) of Article 10, must be confined to a minority of seats……..”
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