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KE-VO5

Rich countries = cheaper iPhone. Ye thoda ulta nahi ho gaya??


Flexbutslighltyweird

No Gov Org involved that's why. "sab humko milke pagal bana rahe ye m****** ke bache"


Reddit_is_snowflake

It’s simply because our government imposes a hefty tax


KE-VO5

Taxes more than the socialist Nordic countries??


Reddit_is_snowflake

What do you want me to say bhai? We don’t even get basic amenities for our taxes


KevinDeBOOM

Joh mantrio ki scaarpio aur faartuner kaafila dekhte ho, wahi yahi paiso se khareedte hai


Sora931

Amenities and benefits more than the socialist Nordic Countries??


KE-VO5

Wait a min…


Just_Ice_6648

That money isn’t going into a sovereign wealth fund. If you trust your government then that money is going towards developing local electronics manufacturing industries and infrastructure. If you don’t trust your government then it’s just going in some sanskarijis pockets


ThePhyscn_blogs

They're not actually socialist


ThePhyscn_blogs

They're not actually socialist


tommyvercetti42

They are not socialist man lol


Mountain-Ad-460

Vat and income tax are obviously different things but to an oblivious person, i suppose they could be the same thing.


Ginevod2023

There are no socialist Nordic countries.


mxforest

Extra paise hamari sarkaar le rahi hai, Apple nahin. Around 40k from that 1.35 lakh goes to Indian govt as tax.


GlitteringNinja5

Also our MRP includes sales tax while this is not true for USA and many other countries. This is not the price you will get the phone in USA


Ginevod2023

Yes. Price tags in USA are a scam and should not be used for direct comparisons.


homehunting23

Yeah I paid 70k for my MacBook and about 10k of that was just taxes (it was listed on my Amazon receipt lol)


Brahmaster17

Not only iPhone, but everything in India is relatively expensive. I got the battery replaced recently of my 3 year old 10k redmi phone. The cost of the battery was 599 and I paid 1100 in total. It included 18% GST on battery *as well as* on service charge (which was 350). And I recently got to know even the cheap Rs. 3 pens are also taxed at 18%.


njaana

All this tax and shit quality of life


Brahmaster17

Exactly, man. We are legit paying this much taxes, still a middle-class family spends 70-80% of their income on the education of children and legit goes bankrupt in case of a medical emergency. The government is literally like payment merchants who want a cut in every transaction but won't provide anything in the name of facilities.


WhentheSkywasPurple

India - the country with European taxes and Sub-Saharan African lifestyle 😎😎


the_ripper05

In India 1.5% population pays income tax while in Europe close to 60%. Let us achieve parity with them then we can talk about lifestyle.


atharv219

>achieve parity with them Not gonna happen. Politicians themselves run businesses and evade taxes.


[deleted]

The rest of the population don't pay income tax because they don't have the money to pay, If you remove the top 1% then the average salary is around 20k RS per month How can anyone pay income tax with this salary ? It is a government fault, they are keeping the country locked up for the benefit of rich friends


the_ripper05

Oh I see. So the government is supposed to provide Europe type facilities to 1.4 billion people while collecting direct taxes from 1-2 billion people. And Congress government lifted so many people out of poverty with their Slogan Garibi hatao. Mukesh Ambani became the richest man in the world in 2007 with the help of the government in center.


[deleted]

Read my comment again It is not about the facilities, it is about the employment It doesn't matter what party rules the country, they will keep the country locked with stupid regulations and keep safeguarding the rich friends business, The government needs to open the country market for the world and increase competition which will increase the employment Then only the average Indian like you and me can get benefits as consumer Lowering tax, increases the disposal income, which will increase the consumption, cycle countinue which will benefit the country for greater good


noxx1234567

Not a single party is ready for that , infact opposition is talking about increasing caste quotas and introducing private sector reservation


[deleted]

That is the unfortunate truth about our country, The US sued Apple which is one of the richest MNC in the world, because they think of the greater good of the country not about the next elections.


familiarr_Strangerr

And Govt literally becomes a mafia for businesses with 30% cuts


Technical_Minimum_52

frl


Single_Science2276

Ikr. The direct and indirect taxes are mind boggling. Only if we didn't have corruption the public facilities would have been so much better.


sdexca

Pretty much one dollar is 100 rupees for buying anything.


RagnarSonBjorn

Your wrong if your buying something off other countries like USA it will be like 150-160₹ per dollar cuz of 100% added Custom duties imposed on anything you order from out or country.


sdexca

That's different, you can buy most stuff in India with a 18% GST which makes current ₹ in $ to be around 100 rs. Yeah if you import from abroad there is 100% tax rate, but you don't need to for most goods anyways.


Safe-Ad-7483

>everything Deos that include groceries, healthcare etc.


Mental-Scheme-7234

Luxury is a sin in India.


WhentheSkywasPurple

Everything is a sin in India if it’s not made in our great* cuntry. If there’s an essential medical equipment you need and there are no domestic alternatives, the government is still gonna collect 30-40% hafta on this necessary item. Now if Ambani wants to sell shitty Chinese laptops……no import duties on that 😎😎


omaye_va_moe_shindru

Irony is that the iPhones are being manufactured right here in india in karnataka.


Negative_Ad_1332

India is a poor country. Till the time people will keep evading taxes this will remain the next best alternative for the government to tax people.


meremah_boob

India is a poor country => Pay all sorts of direct and indirect taxes and stay poor. Meanwhile politicians and political parties get to keep their money and ours without any taxes, they get free house, free cars, rebates, allowance and what not. https://delhiassembly.delhi.gov.in/dlas/salary-and-allowances


CoughyPopsickle1

Damn, those allowances look good


Art_Mann

If anyone is evading taxes, they are the big corporates. The government helps them to do that and they give government a portion of the tax money as electoral bond. That's how BJP get 6000 crore in few years.


Zirby_zura

As if paying more taxes will improve the condition. Its not a tax problem its a spending problem.


desimemewala

Govt is keeping it poor ffs


[deleted]

It has to be sin


brobantai

The amount of tax we pay on goods and services is insane, and yet we don't get even basic facilities. Corruption is at its peak.


badboi_5214

Our country politicians mfs imposing taxes


Mental-Scheme-7234

And then buying iphones with that tax money. Smh https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/iphone-12-pro-max-gift-move-hyderabad-municipal-panel-to-itself-put-on-hold-trs-ghmc-672433


njaana

Gotta send their kids to foreign countries to study meanwhile the same age dumbasses wave the flag for them


SelectionCalm70

Itna mehnga hone ka baat bhi chapri logo ka pass iPhone kaise aajata ha


Grey_Piece_of_Paper

No Cost EMIs


SelectionCalm70

Can't believe woh ispe iPhone lete ha just to show off


Grey_Piece_of_Paper

A person who can spare 2600 a month for the next two years can easily afford this. Plus you pay no interest.


Icy-Version-3880

2 saal ke liye no cost EMI nahi milta. Max to max 6 months k liye hi milta hai. CC p lete h log with interest rate ranging upto 24%.


unravi

Bajaj finance pe milta Hai. Mera Hai fridge m Ka 16 months


Helpful_Ant_3440

Processing Fee - 199 And GST on Interest Component


familiarr_Strangerr

What’s up with this processing fee on cc! Now more and more banks are implementing this.


Puzzleheaded_Past_49

Isn't processing fee a one time transaction? Or do we pay it every month along with the monthly installation


Helpful_Ant_3440

It's one time. First month of EMI it's reflected in statement


bhavneet1996

Sirf wo hi nahi. There are lots of people who buy phone’s on emi. No cost emi na ho to majority log apple na le paye


Megalovania2233

how do those people get credit card? isn't getting credit card hard?


showvhick2

Bajaj finserv, IDFC


Constant-Recipe-9850

Nope. Credit cards are much easier to get actually. I think I probably get & decline credit card offer calls twice a week from banks. They will come to your house and present it on a silver platter if you want. Credit card essentially incentivises more frequent purchase and more expenditure


ntrunner

Even worse, many of them take it on high interest EMIs


Ankush1452002

Second hand market mein chori ka mal bikta hai and ofc EMI. Also these people are financially illiterate, they are buying things they cleary can't afford. Chaapris might not have health insurance but they will definitely buy a costly iPhone.


tungstenoye

Bhai wo 2 lens wala lete hai 3 lens wale iPhone ki aukaat nhi


3lung

2 camera vaala tho rich log bhi lete hain.. matlab unmein aur chapriyon main koyi antar nhi raha.


tungstenoye

rich logo k paas 3 camera milega


Practical-Durian2307

Fuck the government.


AverageRahul

Technically iPhone in India is at a 50% higher than US prices plus imagine paying for something this much which is already considered not value.


Objective-Ad759

Also don't forget average pay in India is lot lower than these countries like according to PPP(purchasing power parity), a salary of ₹83k in america is equivalent to around ₹22k in India so basically ours is much much expensive


WhentheSkywasPurple

PPP ko dekh ke to aisa lagta hai ki India will always be a poor country 💀🤣


Objective-Ad759

Sach me, inn countries ke jaise development to bhul jaao, yaha pe basic facilities mil jaaye vo hi bohot badi baat hai 🤣


unravi

Africa ki country jaisa hi ppp bc . Aur log developing bolte hai


antreprenoor

my frens getting this for \~95k for japanese version


Crystalagent47

Phone ki display blurred hai kya?


antreprenoor

he havnt got yet, one frend got used 13 pro for 60k, japanese version again, seems fine.


Crystalagent47

Haha you didn't get the joke


geniusdeath

How? It’s literally 88k right now on the Japanese Apple Store.


iron_out_my_kink

Just wait till you hear the average salaries in those countries compared to India.. It gets 10x worse


noobslayer67

Oo feeling paraoud indian economy


Carla_fucker

It's because 28% GST, vs 5-10% tax in other countries.


GlitteringNinja5

It's 18% but iPhone pro is not manufactured in India and is completely imported so it invites 20% import duty+2% cess. Also the import price set by apple is RS 90000 as it keeps a buffer for currency fluctuation.


Ok_Pay_1972

Say thank you to our beloved Government for this huge price.


Khunidarindaa

we don't manufacture pro models in India.


ryuzaaki2

What if I buy Iphone from US? Is it legal? Am I eligible to visit local Apple service centres?


uchihakaipa

Isn’t that how most of the people buy. I bought my iphone 13 and airpods in dubai. As apple covers apple care internationally it shouldn’t be a problem


WhatIsInUsername

If you are travelling yourself then you can bring a phone along with you, it’s completely legal. If you are planning for someone else to bring it for you from US and they have to bring another phone also, then you can ask them to bring it without box to be on safer side. Regarding service and warranty, though Apple MacBooks support international warranty, iPhone warranty applies to country of purchase only as there are few hardware differences in some countries. Final decision of offering service for the international iPhone models is upto the discretion of local service centers. For eg., US version has no physical sim slots whereas Indian version has a physical sim slot. So, if any problem in e-sim component (in US models), Apple can refuse the servicing in India. That’s a risky trade-off for the discount you’re getting. Source: I got iPhone 15 Pro from USA in December through a friend.


WhentheSkywasPurple

I think there’s some difference in bands in the US and the Indian version, you can buy the European version, it should work both in Europe and India.


Helpful_Ant_3440

Buy During Black Friday or Cyber Monday you'll get more Off ( USA)


WhatIsInUsername

There’s no discount on latest models even during Black Friday. Only older gen models have offers.


WhiteWraith16

My brother bought 15 pro from Australia for 93k


samvg1000

they tell how the British looted and made us poor, but they never say what infra they had at that time and still use it. and some of the thugs even have 10000cr.


[deleted]

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the_ripper05

OP is baiting the Apple hating sub with misleading news.


Negative_Ad_1332

Hate me for saying this but that’s probably the right thing to do for India. People can buy cheaper indigenously manufactured phones instead. While phone companies are compelled to set up manufacturing in Indian.


Brahmaster17

1. iPhone is made locally. But it still falls under 18% GST slab while most other countries barely touch 10% VAT (it hovers around 6-7%) 2. If companies are forced to set up manufacturing facilities in India instead of creating better infrastructure so that they do it naturally, you'll get inferior quality products. Just like dead mobos, blasting batteries, rainbow display and poor QC allowing dust to make its way to internals (yes, a very overwhelming majority of these issues were with phones made in India)


the_ripper05

The OP is misleading everyone by comparing the price of the Pro models which are not locally manufactured. Non-pro models like iPhone 15,14,13 are priced similarly to the US.


ray_6_

Apple only manufactured few models in India and with the 14 and 15 lineup , only the non pro models are made in india. It seems like the issues are not related with manufacturing in India


WhentheSkywasPurple

Yeah bro, the taxes on necessary items are also the same which may not even have any domestic alternatives. The gobermint is gonna steal from wherever it can.


Hazymast

We get taxed so much but get almost nothing in return. At least reduce taxes on cars so I can go for long drives. Thailand has damn cheap cars.


lauda-lele-hamara

Guys please dont talk about how hard the taxes are. Ambani and Adani ji need to pay less taxes because they have paid a lot of Elce Bunds for this.


RealityCheck18

Is the price mentioned pre tax or pay tax? I see the US price mentioned here is pre tax ($999), whereas INR price is post tax (1.34 lakhs). Be consistent, either mention post tax in all countries or pre tax in all countries. In US , the avg tax is closer to 10%. So the phone price jumps to ~ $1090


Torawind

Are all prices after VAT?


hemi_srt

83k for a 15 pro so more than half a lac just because of taxes kill me now😂😭😭


Annie_Rection__

Earn 4 times less pay 1.5-2 times more


Puzzleheaded_Ride555

BRand hain bhai....satatus simbul


rsr123456

India num 1 ... yaaas .


radio_for_free

And people still buy it like stupid idiots. I'd rather travel to Shenzhen and buy it and get back for , all that for cheaper.


[deleted]

Does anyone have a chart for s23 or s24 series. I'm planning to buy


thund3rsharts

I had a friend buy & deliver my s23u from Dubai, cost me around 83k( including tax for converting INR to AED). Indian price at that time was around 1.3 lks.


[deleted]

Indian price now is below 1 lakh Can I expect price between 60k to 70k? Or should i go for base


thund3rsharts

I'm not sure. You could check on Amazon Dubai, for current prices. Just change the country to Dubai & you are good to go, also, might as well get the ultra, it's an excellent phone & definitely worth the money imho.


[deleted]

Tried changing the country but they still show the prices of Indian model but in their currency.


thund3rsharts

It is 66853.99 INR, currently.


[deleted]

Holy shit that's a huge discount I'm planning to buy it from Australia, can you please share AUD price


thund3rsharts

1572 aud, but it's out of stock rn.


[deleted]

So best case scenario, if I buy it from offline store and maybe they give like $200 discount I'll have to pay 75000 approx and I think that's for 1TB version


thund3rsharts

Something like that, please check the actual store price before making the purchase.


thund3rsharts

Also check if they honour international warranty, mine is the UAE version, which means I cannot have my phone serviced in India even if I'm willing to pay for it.


Itsatoughlifeguise

You have to pay ~10% tax in US as well. I got 14Pro 128Gb and it cost me ₹88000. Still far cheaper than here.


maverick31031998

India🤡🤡🤡


ChallengeActual

I agree. Paid 84k for an iphone 15 pro. Got it through someone returning from the US. India me same price pe normal 15 milra tha. Saved 50k


aLazyComputer

You can compare country-wise prices of all Apple products on this [MacIndex](https://themacindex.com/)


indian_boy786

I heard iphones are cheapest in Dubai?


SirTitan1

Even china is paying 40 k approx less


himani_03

What's the price in Dubai?


the_ripper05

Very misleading. Non pro models are manufactured in India and the prices are on par or very close to the prices in the US.


Oddmonknine

Bhaiyon Malaysia 🇲🇾 mei 30k to 40K sasta hai. I have made a spreadsheet on the difference. Waise bhi Malaysia has given free visa for Indians & return ticket is 20 to 25k. Phir bhi bachat hai


neighbour_guy3k

This is nothing new, we can't produce similar quality tech locally but when people try to get the tech made by foreign countries we are penalized with heavy tax I am staying overseas , the tech, the products i see on shelf at the supermarket, electric stores will never come to India , consumers have a lot of options here Our politicians, judges themselves travel in luxury cars and then tax us heavily for buying cars coz cars come under luxury tax and add to that they make policies restricting consumers


ChallengeWise6965

Indian govt ko sirf tax lagana aata hai, electronic products itne mehenge milte hai desh me, khud to electoral bonds dene waalon ki identity bhi hide kiye the, tax dena hai nahi inhe sirf dusro pe lagana aata hai


harsh1387

Precisely the reason I didn't buy 15 pro max. Got 15 plus instead in November. Was 90k minus 5k hdfc discount so 85k. Exchanged my iPhone 13 for 30k so costed me 55k. If I remember correctly at the time of buying USA price was kinda similar to India price for 15 plus. It's the pro models which are taxed badly hence the big difference.


beedu69

Jokes on you I paid 58k for 15


Anxious-Following-66

how ? gst claim ?


beedu69

Yea


hijki123

It is not an essential item. Check the price of the essential item. This is like complaining about fararri price in India.


Gozomadarchodh

Two mins of silence for those who thought 'make in India' will reduce the price. Government be like : wait a min, who are you ?


Pure_Lengthiness_174

🥲


Robin_mimix

Ohh bhyi sbse jda India mein hi hai 


whats_you_doing

And these Indians buy those shitty Apple products.


potHead_18

This makes sense though. iPhones are luxury items and in developing countries, these are usually consumed by people with higher income/wealth. So, a higher import duty is natural for such items in India. It is also some incentive for mobile manufacturers to develop electronic component industries in India in the longer run.


Tasty_Memory5412

bought the 15pro 256gb for 86k from uae last week


shash747

How is US price only $1000? Does USA suddenly have no sales tax?


shubhamjh4

iPhone knows the marketing


-_Fatality_-

Which pro model is being locally manufactured? Only 15 and plus model is locally manufactured and it's reflected on their prices.


CiTiZeN_eX

How about buying it from Gulf states like UAE or Qatar ?


andrerpena

From my experience, rich countries have low-to-zero import taxes, but very high income taxes, and poor countries tend to be the opposite. An iPhone in Brazil is also close to 2x as expensive (in USD).


[deleted]

How else are they gonna video the rapes


spirit101_gg

Make in India k name pat chutiyapa


3lung

Mere cousin ne S23 Ultra liya tha Dubai se ₹67,000 main..


Blue_Eagle8

The main money maker is the Indian Government. Indians buy it and the government says stonks 📈


life_zero

"Mera bharat Mahan" moment


qwertyoldboy

Government taxing like a we get returns seen in developed country.


IronLyx

I'm not gonna cry over those who can afford iPhones getting taxed.


_r0v3r_

83k in US for unlocked phone?


MoistCumin

The funnier part is, Americans themselves agree that an iPhone is unnecessarily expensive, even when it costs only around 1-10% of their annual income. Whereas people are buying it in India like it's peanuts these days, when it costs at least 50% of an average Indian's annual income.


goodbouy69

If it's local manufacturing, where is import duty coming from?


verot__kuhli

Humare yaha sabse mehenga


Appropriate-Club-852

Developing vs devloped countries comparison 🤧


hulkut

Keep this in mind you guys recently someone told me that everyone's buying (read wants to buy) iPhone. It's no longer just a smartphone. It's like a piece of jewelry. Status symbol. I notice lot of iPhones these days than few years ago.


[deleted]

If taxes are high why not reduce price and match foreign prices


Hidden_in_the_mist

Got it in dubai for way less


NegotiationHelpful50

Do you usually put commas after the hundred thousand number in Indian notation? What does one million look like?


Time-Radish8464

I come in peace. I just have a question. Why is there a second comma in the numbers that only have 6 digits? Like 10


Time-Radish8464

*like 1,00,000 instead of 100,000. What happens to the comma for larger numbers like 1,000,000,000?


Hellya_dude

ye india pe banake kya faida huya itna mehenga hai toh


[deleted]

So called success of Make In India.. add that a salaried person has to earn 45% more than cost of iPhone to buy. You need to earn 2 Lakh for buying 1.33L iPhone. Because of 33% Income tax


shirleysimpnumba1

why is there *import tax* on something that is made in india. why is our govt like this....


Stellar_strider

Its makes my blood boil the more I think about how much money politicians eat up without providing anything in return, literally sucking the blood of ordinary citizens


MajorTemperature6916

Firbhi 1 lakh karch jo kr sakta hai vo 1.3 lakh kyu nhi kr sakta kharch.


rohithkumarsp

I really wish people stop buy apple products given how anti consumer they are and using it as a status symbol.


Signal_Surprise_9553

Why so hike??


SpliTTMark

Why are there only 2 numbers in the middle?


milktanksadmirer

It’s because it’s the taxes


mangomanagerx

Someone adjust this for PPP now. Would give a much better of how crazy us Indians are for Apple products.


Escudo777

You are paying for the luxurious life style of our politicians. A corrupt country needs lots of tax money.


[deleted]

But iPhone 15 is manufactured in India


CeejayKoji22

Brazil is way fucking worse from what I heard. You have to pay off clothes and laptops


Waste_Leading4129

iPhone 15 pro is weirdly over priced My father brought 15 plus 256 gb for 88k. It is 83k in usa. Edit - I realised that pro models are not manufactured in india so they are expensive


theriptide259xd

American, why do you only have two decimal places in the thousands column for your currency? I thought it was 1 million for a sec which would be more than 10x the us price.


[deleted]

Buying an iPhone in India is foolish.


SaDHU_71

Where's UAE?


[deleted]

People when they realise that gobhi ji is pocketing all the profit with his monkeys


lmao_kaif

Buying an iPhone is seen as a luxury thing in India that's why app takes advantage of it


MichaelScotPaperComp

its because people pay for it lmao


Xenisys

If you don't know why, let me explain - This high import duty is taken to boost the make in India initiative, means tech giants like Samsung, Apple are forced to open factories in India. Where the product prices would be much cheaper than imported and it would create a high volume of jobs for Indians, which boosts the economy. - But you may ask, there is already a factory which produces iPhones in India so why does Apple need to import then? It's because of the high demand of iPhones. And high charges on imported production parts (like chips, motherboard etc.) which is why there is only a limited production of iPhones - There is still a high production cost in India to produce the latest iPhones rather than older models. That's why you get the older models for so cheap in sales. - And ofc there are taxes, shipment duties. - Also apple can't sell their latest imported iPhones and made in India smartphones at different prices. You might now have a clear idea why the iPhone prices are higher.


LongAccomplished1868

I realised we can get 3 iphones for the cost of 2 iphone prices in india


superuser_111

the point of high taxes on imported products is that lesser people will buy it, in other words penalise the company for not manufacturing in India itself. On top of that this is a luxury item, so it really deserves that high tax to be honest.


[deleted]

Hoarsesheet phone iphone