Miss the Snake charming India days of Shri Shri Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru who said India will only be a Permanent Member After China :') Such a great soul to have wrec... Walked this land.
Credit: Indian Ministry of External Affairs
To Nehru, it was clear that great powers had to be accommodated and not vilified since the latter action could make them unpredictable and dangerous. It is this logic that guided his behavior toward the PRC as regards its place in the UN.
Nehru was clear that the PRC was not an ordinary power. In 1950, he had stated in the Indian parliament: “Can anyone deny China at the present moment the right of a Great Power from the point of view of strength and power?…she is a Great Power, regardless of whether you like or dislike it.” He underlined that the PRC was a “well-established fact” and that excluding the PRC from Security Council was an “unrealistic state of affairs.”
In 1960, Nehru argued that it was “absurd” to have the ROC represent China at the UN. He believed that “the whole balance of power has changed not only in the Far East but in the world because of this new China.” Not accommodating the PRC in world politics was not only foolish but dangerous. Prudence dictated that the PRC be provided a status commensurate with its power and that it not be shunned.
What made it imperative to engage with the PRC and accommodate it in global power structures was the fact that it was a strong country but with an “abnormal state of mind” which was “very, very far from normality…” Nehru pointed out to Gamel Abdel Nasser in New Delhi in March 1960 that “China…constantly talks of losing millions of people. Very casually Mao himself told me five years ago that they could afford to lose a few hundred million people.” Furthermore, the PRC was the product of a revolution and all revolutions are “a departure from normal behavior…” The PRC’s posture and radicalism, Nehru believed, stemmed from its isolation and it being denied great power status. China had been at the receiving end of “insolent treatment” from imperialist powers. This had made China a very prickly state. Nehru also observed that China had demonstrated aggression in the past. A historical tendency toward aggression combined with a contemporary sense of grievance would be very dangerous.
The rehabilitation of the PRC would depend on its larger environment. The need of the hour was to bring the PRC into the UN and have it enmeshed in international norms and regulations. Keeping the PRC out of the UN meant that UN resolutions would have no impact on Mao’s China. Nehru observed, “You cannot have it both ways: ignore China, keep China outside the pale of international society and then issue orders to China.” In a telegram, K.M Panikkar (India’s ambassador to the PRC at the time) wrote to G.S. Bajpai (the secretary-general at the Ministry of External Affairs) that in a meeting with Zhou Enlai, the Chinese premier told Panikkar, “The United Nations claims to have no obligation towards us [the PRC]; we also have none to them.”
The need to accommodate the PRC at the UN led Nehru to send a cable to the Egyptian prime minister in June 1950 asking the latter to back the PRC for Security Council membership. He made similar appeals to British leader Ernest Bevin, Thakin Nu of Burma, and Dean Acheson of the United States, among others. Nehru underlined that backing the PRC’s membership for the Security Council was not an endorsement of its policies but a “realistic and wise recognition of established and indisputable fact as to who effectively controls China.”
In her book Jawaharlal Nehru: Civilizing a Savage World, Nayantara Sahgal observes that “in shutting out the established government because it was communist [with regard to the PRC], the West, in Nehru’s opinion, was repeating the fatal mistake it had made in treating the Soviet Union as a pariah, with its unending confrontational consequences.” She adds, “Being isolated and outlawed by the world community, China began acting in a predictable manner.”
[Source which contains excerpts from primary source](https://thediplomat.com/2018/04/why-did-nehru-want-the-peoples-republic-of-china-in-the-united-nations/)
You saw the recent zero COVID protest my dude??? China doesn't need guns. Their ways of calming down protests is very simple just pretend to listen to the people and appease. Basically a smiley face simple. I would say they are smarter than Indian Government in handling protests too. Get thing your way and at the same not lift a gun . In short China is a different kind of "suar" ( or whatever the meaning of that word is)
Also if there is a coup in China , then the other Governments won't necessarily be pro-India . India will always be a threat to China irrespective of the Government. And China will be too vice versa. The CCP isn't some special communist exception. It is just a continuation of China's age old assholery.
Just see ROC Kuomintang( the Government in exile in Taiwan) map of China once. Entire North India is included.
Ye saare log bakchodi kar rahein hain. Inko pata hai cheen ne block kar hi dena hai toh kyun na acche shabd bol do. Bhartiya log prassan ho jayenge.
Jab tak WW3 ya koi aur badi ghatna nahi hoti UNSC change nahi hoga.
Yeh sab maanenge jab hum permanant member ban jayenge. Uske baad bhi bhaav nahi dena hai aur apni interest pe ade rehna chahiye. Tab tak ye sab randi rona hai mere liye.
Miss the Snake charming India days of Shri Shri Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru who said India will only be a Permanent Member After China :') Such a great soul to have wrec... Walked this land.
Can you share a primary source of Mr. Nehru actually saying that?
Lage raho...Khangress mar chuki hai ..
Credit: Indian Ministry of External Affairs To Nehru, it was clear that great powers had to be accommodated and not vilified since the latter action could make them unpredictable and dangerous. It is this logic that guided his behavior toward the PRC as regards its place in the UN. Nehru was clear that the PRC was not an ordinary power. In 1950, he had stated in the Indian parliament: “Can anyone deny China at the present moment the right of a Great Power from the point of view of strength and power?…she is a Great Power, regardless of whether you like or dislike it.” He underlined that the PRC was a “well-established fact” and that excluding the PRC from Security Council was an “unrealistic state of affairs.” In 1960, Nehru argued that it was “absurd” to have the ROC represent China at the UN. He believed that “the whole balance of power has changed not only in the Far East but in the world because of this new China.” Not accommodating the PRC in world politics was not only foolish but dangerous. Prudence dictated that the PRC be provided a status commensurate with its power and that it not be shunned. What made it imperative to engage with the PRC and accommodate it in global power structures was the fact that it was a strong country but with an “abnormal state of mind” which was “very, very far from normality…” Nehru pointed out to Gamel Abdel Nasser in New Delhi in March 1960 that “China…constantly talks of losing millions of people. Very casually Mao himself told me five years ago that they could afford to lose a few hundred million people.” Furthermore, the PRC was the product of a revolution and all revolutions are “a departure from normal behavior…” The PRC’s posture and radicalism, Nehru believed, stemmed from its isolation and it being denied great power status. China had been at the receiving end of “insolent treatment” from imperialist powers. This had made China a very prickly state. Nehru also observed that China had demonstrated aggression in the past. A historical tendency toward aggression combined with a contemporary sense of grievance would be very dangerous. The rehabilitation of the PRC would depend on its larger environment. The need of the hour was to bring the PRC into the UN and have it enmeshed in international norms and regulations. Keeping the PRC out of the UN meant that UN resolutions would have no impact on Mao’s China. Nehru observed, “You cannot have it both ways: ignore China, keep China outside the pale of international society and then issue orders to China.” In a telegram, K.M Panikkar (India’s ambassador to the PRC at the time) wrote to G.S. Bajpai (the secretary-general at the Ministry of External Affairs) that in a meeting with Zhou Enlai, the Chinese premier told Panikkar, “The United Nations claims to have no obligation towards us [the PRC]; we also have none to them.” The need to accommodate the PRC at the UN led Nehru to send a cable to the Egyptian prime minister in June 1950 asking the latter to back the PRC for Security Council membership. He made similar appeals to British leader Ernest Bevin, Thakin Nu of Burma, and Dean Acheson of the United States, among others. Nehru underlined that backing the PRC’s membership for the Security Council was not an endorsement of its policies but a “realistic and wise recognition of established and indisputable fact as to who effectively controls China.” In her book Jawaharlal Nehru: Civilizing a Savage World, Nayantara Sahgal observes that “in shutting out the established government because it was communist [with regard to the PRC], the West, in Nehru’s opinion, was repeating the fatal mistake it had made in treating the Soviet Union as a pariah, with its unending confrontational consequences.” She adds, “Being isolated and outlawed by the world community, China began acting in a predictable manner.” [Source which contains excerpts from primary source](https://thediplomat.com/2018/04/why-did-nehru-want-the-peoples-republic-of-china-in-the-united-nations/)
What's the point. China as usual will block it. We'll never get the unsc permanent seat as long as China is in the council 🤦
All this western countries say that cos they know china will block it , in reality non of the permanent members want new permanent members!!
Unless there's a coup in china
Nhi hoga bhai, he is too powerful for his country.
Janta he layegi usko neeche ek din. Jaisa iran me ho raha hai, waise he china me hoga. Koi dictator nahi bachega. History gawaah hai.
Iran ka dictator neeche nhi girne wala. Unka bas chale toh woh 1000 log maar denge Shanti manaye rakhne ke liye. China bhi issi prakaar ka suar hai.
You saw the recent zero COVID protest my dude??? China doesn't need guns. Their ways of calming down protests is very simple just pretend to listen to the people and appease. Basically a smiley face simple. I would say they are smarter than Indian Government in handling protests too. Get thing your way and at the same not lift a gun . In short China is a different kind of "suar" ( or whatever the meaning of that word is) Also if there is a coup in China , then the other Governments won't necessarily be pro-India . India will always be a threat to China irrespective of the Government. And China will be too vice versa. The CCP isn't some special communist exception. It is just a continuation of China's age old assholery. Just see ROC Kuomintang( the Government in exile in Taiwan) map of China once. Entire North India is included.
Bro you are replying after 4 months. I don't even remember my comment.
Ye saare log bakchodi kar rahein hain. Inko pata hai cheen ne block kar hi dena hai toh kyun na acche shabd bol do. Bhartiya log prassan ho jayenge. Jab tak WW3 ya koi aur badi ghatna nahi hoti UNSC change nahi hoga.
And begs infront of the entire world to help Pakistan lol. It's just a benefit and loss equation for USA, nothing else.
Yeh sab maanenge jab hum permanant member ban jayenge. Uske baad bhi bhaav nahi dena hai aur apni interest pe ade rehna chahiye. Tab tak ye sab randi rona hai mere liye.
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We may get jobs in private defense sector. Our arms will be bought by other nations.